House of the Dragon doesn't add up
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 มิ.ย. 2024
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This is just an abridged version of another video, so if you've seen that one there's nothing new here. I hope to have something new out next week!
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00:00 - Oops
07:40 - The Timelines
11:36 - "Historical Accuracy"
15:56 - A text in conflict with itself
22:32 - Conclusion
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I feel like the entire first season should've just been the younger actors of Alicent and Rhaenyra and covered storylines that were skipped or rushed like for example Criston killing Joffrey or Alicent's relationship with Rhaenyra right after her marriage or right after the birth of Aegon. The whole weirdness of Viserys trying to turn Jacerys and Daeron into basically brothers. We would've also gotten to know characters like Laena, Harwin and Lyonel and lot more.
Yeah I can understand they were given only a limited amount of episodes by the network and they wanted to end the first season with the Big Chomp because it's a great hook for a season two, but it felt like so much of the story was missing. I would love it if we got flashbacks, I know there have been rumors 🤞
there's not that much to stretch into a full season. Maybe an extra episode pre and post time jump so a 12 episode season. But two full seasons before even starting the war is too much set up.
Laena and rhaenayra friendship
I think the characters ages that bother me the most are Joffrey, Aegon the younger, Viserys, and the twins Jaehaera and Jaeherys. Because in the books they have important scenes but it’s not gonna work if most of them are toddlers (which is how old Maelor is supposed to be.) Not to mention idk what the show is gonna do about Daeron. 😂
Yeah I think they'll definitely cut Aegon the younger escaping the battle of the gullet on Stormcloud, if only for budget reasons. I wonder if they'll stretch the length of the actual war so it's longer than 2 years to allow them to age up a bit.
It disappoints me that it's looking like netles isn't going to be in the show at all
I think the one that usually stands out as most ambiguous to me is when Rhaenys mentions Corlys left 6 years ago, maybe it was more like 7 or 8 years if Corlys did not leave right away after Laenor died. But yeah, it's a mess at times.
The "nearly 20 years" line makes any padding in the timeline impossible. Believe me I looked for it, I tried to make it make sense 🙃
lol happy i wasn't the only one frustrated with this. to me it becomes a blatant issue with aemond, his age gets used by fans so much to push their biased opinion, he goes from being treated as an innocent baby to being an adult fighting a toddler
I gotta say I’m not sure if I should be weirded out on how obsessed you are over the show to go to these lengths , but I applaud you for your dedication and enthusiasm over sniffing out the mistakes ❤❤❤😂😂😂 never stop being you 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🫶🫶🫶🫶
I get weirded out by myself sometimes! I just smelled something was wrong and then I got obsessed with solving the mystery lol.
@@QuinnFirstOfHerName lol u rock I shall call you Sherlock Holmes from now on u nailed the mystery 🫶🦋
"we've all been hurt before..."
I feel threatened by the sword being pointed against me all the time by a crazy lady.
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What if in show canon, Aemond is Alicent's second child and it was Helaena who was born during the time jump?
That might have worked, and it wouldn't have even changed anything significant story wise. It would have aged down her children by about 1-2 years at most, but they definitely could have gotten away with it.
Bro, this video just reminded me why I'm always so terrified of specifying time passage in anything I write: short stories, fanfics, fvcking book reports. I don't want to flub it all! That's scary. And then nothing is consistent and I have to go revise the work 17 times per day to either fix it or to remove any sort of remaining proof of time passage? I feel like ambiguity would've done them better.
As much as I loved the dynamic between Alicent and Rhaenyra being besties instead of just cordial friendly women turned apparent enemies, that really did a number on the continuity. rip
I've read a fanfic that had a character be pregnant for 10 months and, while she was close to the "end" of her pregnancy, wasn't ready to pop at any moment. All because the author kept making semi-random comments about how much time was passing in the story without keeping tract of everything.
I subscribed immediately due to the giant web of insanity behind you.... Fantastic 🤣🤣🤣
i have been telling everybody this for over a year - thank you for putting this whole timeline problem into words. keep holding their feet to the fire
I'm glad other people noticed it too. It wouldn't bother me so much if it hadn't been so easily preventable. They just had to make the first big time jump 2-3 years longer!
My theory is that there could be a time jump of about 1 year within episode 5. Within that one episode we go from arranging the marriage between Laenor and Rhaenyra to them being married. And planning for an event such as royal wedding takes a lot of time, I would expect that the wedding didn't just happened the week after, the way they make it look in the episode. There could have been about year of planning during which Aemond could have been born.
I wonder how old Daeron is
Yeah they could make his existence not a retcon if he's a much younger child, but it seems unlikely that Viserys would have been physically capable past a certain point. In the book he's the same age as Jace, which would technically only be possible with the cannon timeline as it stands if he's somehow Aemond's secret twin. The Daeron situation is a mess.
I'm pretty sure he's the same age as Jace.
@@gig7932she got all the other stuff wrong as well
I have this feeling that Daeron arc will be given to Helaena. Maybe she gets sent to Oldtown after Blood n Cheese horror show and does the Daeron things!
@@kedrprao no daeron is a thing and has been confirmed to show up…giving her his role makes no sense whatsoever considering her end lol but dareon was already teased when daemon said the greens had 4 dragons
According to the interview for "Esquire" Aegon is 21, Helaena -19 and Aemond 18... Which means in the "Driftmark" episode they should be 15, 13 and 12. Seems like in the show version of events, Aegon's and Helaena's wedding was a little less rushed than in the books . I wonder how old the twins are then? In episode 9, they look younger that 6, and in ep 7, Helaena definitely isn't pregnant (and she isn't even wed to Aegon yet). And how old is Maelor (assuming he exists lol)
The one thing I'm hung up on is that King Jaehaerys is half black since his mama is a Velaryon. His mama is the daughter of a 'Lord of the Tides', however, the man who sat on the throne in the very first scene of the show is a whole white man. And before anyone says he could be super light-skin, Laenor and Laena's mama is a white woman, Baela and Rhaena's daddy is a whole white man. Those characters still came out clearly looking like one of their parents was full of melanin. Laenor and Laena had dreadlocks/frizzy hair, so did Baela and Rhaena. Where were Jaehaerys's frizzy curls and/or dreadlocks? If the Velaryon's are traditionally black, then King Jaehaerys should've been Lionel Richie instead of Casper the friendly ghost. Also, this ain't a Baelor Breakspear situation. Those Velaryon genes are notoriously difficult to rid, since it's an obvious point of contention in the show.
To this point, Baratheon's are known for their strong genes i.e. blue eyes but more importantly black of hair. This is why Rhaenys having black hair with a white streak in the books made sense. Also, Princess Rhaelle, the daughter of King Aegon V married a Baratheon. Their son, Steffon had the Baratheon features. So did his sons, Robert, Stannis and Renly.
But you did say that this could be a third timeline... Where things make little logical sense.
I have been similarly obsessed with this very topic!! There is not a single writer that can math and it shows. This is a hot mess and it was easily avoidable and it baffles me to no end.
Yeah that's what annoys me the most. They very easily could have made it make sense!
Tue real that dont app up in thecshow is laenor hearing his family killing eachother , lucerys was his son , in his heart at least , and still chilling in essos
This is the level of neurodivergence i need in a fandom. ❤
I’m shocked that this video doesn’t have more views and likes!! That was amazing!! Keep up the good work girl❤❤
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The weird casting of mid season aegon and aemond didn’t help. I felt no continuity between them and their older versions. Also, they should’ve used Tenents kid as older Aegon
I spent my whole life thinking I didn't have any kinks. Who knew "hot woman explaining plot holes while pointing knives" even was a kink? Not me...
Why are you pointing knives at people? This is so weird. This all started when they changed Rhaenera's age to make her closer in age to Allicent. She was only eight years old when she was named her father's heir. Allicent is nine years older than Rhaeneara. Once you let this butterfly out of the net it cascades down to all of the other timelines and ages. Stop with the knives, it's just weird and creepy. This alteration of the timeline shouldn't affect the overall story nearly as much as some of the other minor changes. The biggest one is failing to kill Laenor. Again, stop with the knives. It's super threatening and triggering. Also, if they take out Nettles, that is going to be very bad. She is a critical character for this story and ASOIAF.
Rhaenyra just got the date wrong when she was sworn in. She isn't sound of mind or fit to rule if she can't even remember this. Let's go team Green!
You got the ages wrong lol Aegon is 20 and aemond is 17…sister is 18
Those may be the ages they're supposed to be, but the dialogue of the show and the stated lengths of the time jumps in the episode descriptions makes that impossible.
@@QuinnFirstOfHerName Ryan said that’s the ages I mean I kinda get what you saying but I feel these ages still makes sense. Aemond clearly is older than Luke by a bit and that’s really the indicatior and he’s at least 2 years older than Jace on the show tho he should be at least 4.
@@Caraxes_RoguePrince Oh ok I couldn't find any official statement on the ages so I was going off of the casting notes. And those ages are still impossible within the established timeline.
@@QuinnFirstOfHerName Agreed, Aegon is clearly 19 by my count but I didn't pay attention to Aemond's age and now it makes sense for him to be 15 lmao this show's timeline is so messy!!
Bro are u serious ? You made that whole thing just to say this? Why can’t u just enjoy the show