What you said about superfeline is so true. I'm an end game player and have been around since the point he got released. I'm already past the 15k user rank mark, but my superfeline is still +48. The road is long, but at the moment my 50 idi got my back and is still slapping relics left and right. Still would be cool to eventually unlock true super feline in the future and check him out.
I got that +80 recently and it’s stupidly powerful. One of the most fun units to use in the game. It’s a real shame that it’s locked behind such a steep requirement.
Same situation here, I'm a bit behind on user rank but still at endgame and my superfeline is only +35. IDI is all fine and good and I don't need super, but it just feels kinda lame not being able to use tf feline because I don't want to grind tickets.
i know im late to the discussion, but i think one of the reasons why most ppl dont have true superfeline is because when he came out, his tf was not out yet and he could only be boosted to +9 leaving some stupid idiots (me) to just exchange him for np instead of using him, so when his true form came out i had to grind 71 more copies to get his true form.
Another unit that ends up being impractical is actually one of the strongest units vs the trait it targets and is far more accessible than True Superfeline: Lollycat. Lollycat’s 2 sec cooldown and high range AOE Slow vs Metal absolutely crushes Metal stages and is absolutely uncontested in the role, even compared to Sakura Sonic. The impracticality comes from the fact that this ability is a Talent. Sure, it only requires a single talent unlock to be good, but with how infrequent Metal stages are, their tendency to have LD enemies that destroy Lollycat, and the outstanding quality of the Cyclone units, it’s generally not worth it to unlock Lollycat’s talents.
This might be a hot take but imo lolly’s talent is worth it. Yes, it’s expensive. However, lolly performs infinitely better than the cyclone cat cc squad on mixed stages, and also outperforms them on pure metal stages. They are the single best anti metal cc unit in the game. Yes, there are better talents to get, but personally I would get lolly’s slow after all the important talents. The main strength that lolly has is how good it is on mixed stages. The cyclone squad has melee range and get killed easily on mixed stages, but lolly has 350 range and can survive for a decent while. With lolly, metal doges basically don’t do anything, which is great since metal doges are very annoying on mixed stages. TLDR: Lolly’s slow is worth it. It makes every metal stage (that doesn’t have loris) free I know I type a lot
Pre-TF Lasvoss is another good example of a unit that seems good on paper, but is really impractical (outside of his broken combo). Sure, that damage is insane, but his short range, long attack animation, requirement to be at 1 HP and land a savage blow to achieve that damage, and high cost make him frustrating to use.
The prerequisite for upgrading Superfeline is genuinely desgusting. I'm sitting here with 20 copies of him in my storage but i cant upgrade Superfeline bc im ''only'' 14,450 user rank, and i cant increase it further bc i dont have infinite catseyes / tickets. And you know what the worst part about it is? I already beat all of 3 crown UL (and 4 crown but you cant use Superfeline for those anyway). I hope PONOS changes this so that some future player dosent have to go through the agony of just racking up copies of Superfeline in the storage just because they're not 1 morbillion user rank
12:17 “Even some players who push really slowly by today’s standards still tend to have around 10k UR at most when they finish UL” Me at UL 12 with 12k UR and +43 superfeline… You’re still right though, even for me, an abominably slow battle cats player compared to the modern playerbase, still (probably) won’t be able to use true superfeline in UL at all. (Though I have fantasized about being the first person to obtain true superfeline before the bulk of UL) But you’re also right about practicality; most units fit in a role for the general playerbase, such as being good or bad, but just because it’s generally perceived to be that way doesn’t mean it has to be that way. So, this may be a short video, but it does carry with it an important message: there are many different ways to play and enjoy cat game
@@yoshiethan2000 uber carry? I’m at 11k and just after naala, but I’ve done all advents (except doremi revenge but fuck that) and both towers (through ubercarry) how fast are you progressing??
I say we should be thankful for beefcake, even though pretty ineffective when not stacked and one of the most cash draining units ever he is still an insane anti surge no gacha unit
Li’l dragon, Naala, Boulder, Gato Amigo, doron.. most of which are better most of the time. Sure, beefcake has its uses, but the existence of those with fragments of the cost of np, or native surge immune, and in 4 star, proves this unit got powercrept to death.
@@averageidiot1612 yeah but you can't compare any of those with beefcake. Li'l dragon is a single target backliner (the mini wave doesn't help much, not even 100% chance), doron is a nuker and boulder and gato amigo are meatshields. Naala is the closest to beefcake, though she is rather a solid midranger
i know he doesnt really fit because hes really good, but Luza needing 1 morbillion stones to get his tf makes it so a lot of players will end up not using him for a long time i think
Luza is an endgame unit but anyone who beats UL unlocks him and when you get his TF he’s ridiculously strong. It’s way easier to farm the stones than to get 15k UR (especially with Hunter’s Map IV coming in 12.4 being able to drop gems naturally)
I had all the UL legend TFs before getting Superfeline’s TF. So Superfeline is still significantly more of a grind imo (especially since the chance to get him from a normal ticket is like 5% per ticket and would therefore require opening ~2000 normal tickets on average to even get his TF. Also, Luza is absolutely worth every stone he requires even if it’s annoying to get them all
@@Geology051it’s not that people don’t like to play the stages, it’s that they are so difficult to consistently grind. Jinforce volcano is the only culling stage that you can semi-reliably get yellow stones, but it’s only on at either 7am 12pm or 7pm. This makes it so if you don’t wake up in time or aren’t available to play the stage when it’s up, you’re out of luck. And even when you are on at the appropriate time, you can only play it ONCE. With odds to get a yellow stone being 23% at best you will get one roughly every FOUR DAYS, and that’s if you even manage to play it everyday. The only consistent way to get yellow stones is the yellow stone enigma in hunters map III, but that requires 1000’s of energy to get each time and is again only playable ONCE. They are so good damn bullshit and Ponos making Luza cost TWENTY OF THOSE MF is so fucking cringe. I can’t wait for Hunters map IV so the behemoth stone grind will finally stop sucking so much swampy ass.
Honestly, when it comes to super feline, mynproblem isn't User rank, it's just getting enough of him to boost to lvl 100. Right now I have 14800 UR, it won't be long before I reach 15k, but I only have Superfeline at lvl 80, and the silver ticket system REALLY doesn't like giving me more fsr.
Filibuster TF is truly insane when you consider every other beast stone TF getting Collosal/Behemoth trait but for some reason his TF DOSENT??? He’d actually be useful vs behemoth units and same with colossal but for reason ponos said “ehh no”
behemoth and colossal arent real traits, even if he had slayer ability, he would still only be able to freeze white or relics while any other behemoth enemy would be unaffected
I always found superfeline’s unlock requirements absurd. And then the UR requirements to level him is just ridiculous. I am at UL 27 and only 6.8k UR. I will need over double my current UR to level him to +80, not to mention the 80 copies of it. And I don’t even have that many obscure collab units to burn xp on. Superfeline would have been great without the ur requirements, and even better if unlocked in ItF(although anti-relic is pretty useless until about cotc 2-3)
as a newer player (empire of cats to be specific), i grinded alot in the other battle cats style games ponos made, to get 750 catfood and waited for uberfest to then buy the 11 draw (with the first 11 draw ever discount), getting 2 ubers in it, ice cat and momotaro, already upgraded it to 10 and i DESTROYED emperor nyandam, now i wonder if bunbun is gonna be the same.
i only use NP on my beefcake cat because at the time i didn't have a few or any surge immune units at all and i only maxed out strengthen and attack up but now having LKD with surge immune and mini waves unlocked i will definitely use LKD for all surge stages (or maybe i'll use both if there's a 4* surge stage)
Every rare/super rare anti red with the exception of Roe(and cancan i guess..?) was somewhat practical. Until Courier cat arrived where it sh!ts out compared to them
i finished UL a few weeks ago, i used up all my xpboosts to grind xp colliseum and ive maxed out basically every single unit i own to level 30. loads of level 45s and 50s too. still only at 13.5k UR. getting 15k is insane, ill probably have to try to get every single eva collab unit since i missed it but hopefully i can use superfeline in 2 and 3 star
I really hope for metal slug collab to come back bc that has so many rares from the gacha that are ez to get So that would be free UR(im at 12500 and ive got all units at lv 30+ except a few at 29
I love maximum the fighter and I honestly believe he is better than elemental duelist. He has never disappointed me and was one of my key units for 4 crown stages in SOL. He is a great unit and I love him.
I wouldn't say 1kb is ideal all the time, just having low kb is nice. There are some tankers which benefit from having 2+kb, such as Keiji who can reposition to get boosted damage off before he goes down, or Garu so he can last on the field a little longer, since he's intended as a backup wall.
"players who push slowly have 10000 user rank at most when they finish UL" Meanwhile me who just started UL (5. chapter right now) with 13280 UR: oopsie
maxs knockback actually isnt that bad, because he keeps on bouncing back to go to the front line instead of dying so a few of them can protect your units in back of him and then cluster up in the frontline gradually pushing and constantly bouncing back to protect the front line.
@@Geology051Even before his talents are added, Balrog would still demolish most Deadly Advents. At the ebd of thr day, it's still just essentially Can Can on steroids.
I wouldn’t really say that true superfeline is impractical really, I got him just by playing the game and getting normal tickets. I wasn’t dedicated to getting him but it just happened. It was more of a milestone than a goal to me
Yes, you’re right, superfeline is a very easy unit to obtain. However, the video talks specifically about his true form and it’s requirements, which are much harder to achieve
@@turt1100 Well, on average, it takes 1600 cat tickets to reach +80 superfeline, takes at least 300 units and 7500 catseyes with them all at level 50 to reach 15k user rank, or 500 units at level 30, and likely billions of xp in order to finally reach the milestone. Difficulty is subjective, but I’d say the general consensus is that doing all of what I mentioned is not easy or quick to do, therefore making it impractical. If you’ve found it easy, though, then there’s nothing I can say about that
@@Geology051 I didn’t say it was easy i was saying it wasn’t impractical. I’m not spinning on cat tickets and upgrading cat units specifically for superfeline (until I was at like 14k) I just did it because it’s part of the game. Superfelines tf just came in as a result of that not by directing time into it.
I'd say that one of the most impractical ubers in the game is ST Akari (as in he's actually pretty good, but need too many resources). His super talents are pretty insane but in order to get those, you need an insane investment of dark cateyes, XP, and NP and at that point, might as well get the talents of different ubers that are more useful and that you would use more often. And plus with how hard it is to gain Dark Catseyes, the investment in not worth it, and i'm not even going to talk about the chance of getting Akari in the first place
I would like to give my point on Maximum, Yes just like you said, it is rather impractical for rare units to reach+80 standards, but a lot of people nowadays already get their hands on some+40 rare units, and at worst，+30, the stat difference isn't that big and Maximum is shown to have really decent generalist usage(Yes I will say he is more like a generalist ms than an Anti red one) due to its relatively low cooldown when compared to other units like ramen when in a no research combo scenario, heck his hp is also really good, making it surviving even some boss hits. All in all I will say that Maximum usage is definitely not impractical and it is in a nice place of the game currently.
Or, put into perspective, if we used ponos’s outrageous XP to catfood system, 20 million xp is 15000 catfood, which costs around(?) three thousand dollars. If we assume one normal ticket is equal to 1/5th of a rare ticket, which means 1 normal ticket = $0.2, but due to the average 5% chance of getting super feline, if we assume average rng, we can conclude 20000 normal tickets, or 4000 more dollars. So our total to get JUST the XP and normal tickets if you’re a ptw scum is around 7000 dollars. Of course, no one’s paying that. It’s a thought experiment. We’re not mentioning UR. So it would cost atleast one kidney to buy true super feline if you’re that desperate.
to get to 15k user rank you'll need around 375 units (at base lvl 40) of course the numbers may be wrong with +numbers not being added in (someone who is more capable in math can solve that because i can't) i highly doubt any BC with ever reach even around 10k user rank (i have around 7900 user rank) maybe super feline's TF can be a reward for like clearing all UL chapters 3*
I have a user rank of 10 500 and I just obtained Lil' Nyandam from SoL. Most players at this time have cleared SoL at the very least, but I play the game as it was intended - first the campaign, then Legend Stages, and lastly SoL, UL and ZL. I even have beaten both Floors 40 in HT and IT with just levels 40. I do have some good ubers tho😅 Maybe when I get to UL, I will be the first to have the true form of Superfeline before reaching it!
Since I am so goddamn lazy to bother playing SoL and UL, I don't have idi yet but have a user rank of around 9300 At this rate maybe I'll get to 15000 before the end of UL xd
Maximum isnt bad unit, prof.A is one of the strongest red enemies and overall in the game, they dont even buff him that much, with 200% at maximum like in I'll be bug, sure his damage is shit, but fairly tanky for his cost, island and roe cost way higher so its not a fair comparison, elemental duelist is a better conparison, since it cost a bit more, and while it deals more damage, it has less HP, so its not that maximum is bad, you are putting him in bad matchups that wont fit other units similar to him like elemental duelist, even bath cat has less stats but still has some good matchups, like manic island courier due to its good anti red range
Um… cool thing to tell is how you play after your first playthrough! I am in my second playthrough (my main bc didnt had an account linked and i accidentaly deleted it ): ) Now i am at ItF moon. With only 1000 User Rank.
Canned Juice: Most players have a user rank of 10000 by the time they finish UL. Me: Uhh i just started UL on the second chapter and I have 14500 user rank lol. Maybe I should consider getting super feline lol. Shouldn't be much more since I can finally upgrade units to lv 50 lol. Then again I've been playing this game for years focusing on collecting more than anything. Also i haven't beat cotc 3 yet...
Fun fact, I had well over 12k ur by the time I finished SoL and to date I haven't finished anything past urs despite having played now for I think 3 years. I am currently stuck at level 20+77 and it's hell. I am a fucking mistake and I fully embrace it.
Did you really just say to only invest in generalists and not use any specialized units at all? Have you made it past EOC? Also why the hell are you using level 30 maximum to take down master a without any other dps. He can keep master a at bay really well so that longer range nukers can kill him without being damage. He fits his nieche just fine.
He wasnt trying to take down the Professor A. He was showing how little hits Maximum can get on Professor A to show how the KB count affects his durability.
That was a pretty mid lore dive, dude explained some stuff pretty poorly and missed some key details, but good enough ig. Sadly fortnites lore failed after around chapter after the main writer or whatever left
I don’t necessarily think maximum having worse stats is a “practicality problem”. If anything he’s more “practical” then island since you know if he has the stats to reach an enemy he’s not gonna miss because of single target thanks to area on him. Being a slow single target unit like island means it’s difficult to make sure island hits the unit you want him to hit. His stats just suck without boosting. Maximum is really practical but not effective and when he’s boosted he’s both practical and effective. When he’s good he’s really easy to use
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"Doge" is pronouned "doe-gay" and is an anglicized spelling of the Japanese pronunciation of the English word "doggy." It's not pronounced like "doaj" with a soft "g" and one consonant.
What you said about superfeline is so true. I'm an end game player and have been around since the point he got released. I'm already past the 15k user rank mark, but my superfeline is still +48. The road is long, but at the moment my 50 idi got my back and is still slapping relics left and right. Still would be cool to eventually unlock true super feline in the future and check him out.
I got that +80 recently and it’s stupidly powerful. One of the most fun units to use in the game. It’s a real shame that it’s locked behind such a steep requirement.
Same situation here, I'm a bit behind on user rank but still at endgame and my superfeline is only +35. IDI is all fine and good and I don't need super, but it just feels kinda lame not being able to use tf feline because I don't want to grind tickets.
@@SPZ-gv2on I am not even close to getting the true form, I really hope its worth it
i know im late to the discussion, but i think one of the reasons why most ppl dont have true superfeline is because when he came out, his tf was not out yet and he could only be boosted to +9 leaving some stupid idiots (me) to just exchange him for np instead of using him, so when his true form came out i had to grind 71 more copies to get his true form.
idi trueform...
I never thought battle cats videos could get this entertaining this channel has been dropping bangers non stop
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Another unit that ends up being impractical is actually one of the strongest units vs the trait it targets and is far more accessible than True Superfeline: Lollycat. Lollycat’s 2 sec cooldown and high range AOE Slow vs Metal absolutely crushes Metal stages and is absolutely uncontested in the role, even compared to Sakura Sonic. The impracticality comes from the fact that this ability is a Talent. Sure, it only requires a single talent unlock to be good, but with how infrequent Metal stages are, their tendency to have LD enemies that destroy Lollycat, and the outstanding quality of the Cyclone units, it’s generally not worth it to unlock Lollycat’s talents.
And its super expensive for a non-uber talent
This might be a hot take but imo lolly’s talent is worth it.
Yes, it’s expensive. However, lolly performs infinitely better than the cyclone cat cc squad on mixed stages, and also outperforms them on pure metal stages. They are the single best anti metal cc unit in the game.
Yes, there are better talents to get, but personally I would get lolly’s slow after all the important talents.
The main strength that lolly has is how good it is on mixed stages. The cyclone squad has melee range and get killed easily on mixed stages, but lolly has 350 range and can survive for a decent while. With lolly, metal doges basically don’t do anything, which is great since metal doges are very annoying on mixed stages.
TLDR: Lolly’s slow is worth it. It makes every metal stage (that doesn’t have loris) free
I know I type a lot
Pre-TF Lasvoss is another good example of a unit that seems good on paper, but is really impractical (outside of his broken combo). Sure, that damage is insane, but his short range, long attack animation, requirement to be at 1 HP and land a savage blow to achieve that damage, and high cost make him frustrating to use.
With proper care he won't be at 1 hp as his strengthen does activate at 30% hp
@@sirkill-a-lot3587yea but dont you need 10 epic seeds, 10 elder fruits, and 1 gold fruit for that?
@@sirkill-a-lot3587 he literally said "pre-TF Lasvoss"
@@CatBattler223 1 elder fruit, not 10
@@justacryptid4687thank god
The prerequisite for upgrading Superfeline is genuinely desgusting. I'm sitting here with 20 copies of him in my storage but i cant upgrade Superfeline bc im ''only'' 14,450 user rank, and i cant increase it further bc i dont have infinite catseyes / tickets. And you know what the worst part about it is? I already beat all of 3 crown UL (and 4 crown but you cant use Superfeline for those anyway). I hope PONOS changes this so that some future player dosent have to go through the agony of just racking up copies of Superfeline in the storage just because they're not 1 morbillion user rank
12:17 “Even some players who push really slowly by today’s standards still tend to have around 10k UR at most when they finish UL”
Me at UL 12 with 12k UR and +43 superfeline…
You’re still right though, even for me, an abominably slow battle cats player compared to the modern playerbase, still (probably) won’t be able to use true superfeline in UL at all. (Though I have fantasized about being the first person to obtain true superfeline before the bulk of UL) But you’re also right about practicality; most units fit in a role for the general playerbase, such as being good or bad, but just because it’s generally perceived to be that way doesn’t mean it has to be that way.
So, this may be a short video, but it does carry with it an important message: there are many different ways to play and enjoy cat game
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@@OverStrive2008 Indeed it is
I'm at zl 3 and my super feline is +8 and I only have like 6910 ur
@@yoshiethan2000 uber carry? I’m at 11k and just after naala, but I’ve done all advents (except doremi revenge but fuck that) and both towers (through ubercarry) how fast are you progressing??
I say we should be thankful for beefcake, even though pretty ineffective when not stacked and one of the most cash draining units ever he is still an insane anti surge no gacha unit
Li’l dragon, Naala, Boulder, Gato Amigo, doron.. most of which are better most of the time. Sure, beefcake has its uses, but the existence of those with fragments of the cost of np, or native surge immune, and in 4 star, proves this unit got powercrept to death.
@@averageidiot1612 yeah but you can't compare any of those with beefcake. Li'l dragon is a single target backliner (the mini wave doesn't help much, not even 100% chance), doron is a nuker and boulder and gato amigo are meatshields. Naala is the closest to beefcake, though she is rather a solid midranger
i know he doesnt really fit because hes really good, but Luza needing 1 morbillion stones to get his tf makes it so a lot of players will end up not using him for a long time i think
Luza is an endgame unit but anyone who beats UL unlocks him and when you get his TF he’s ridiculously strong. It’s way easier to farm the stones than to get 15k UR (especially with Hunter’s Map IV coming in 12.4 being able to drop gems naturally)
Yea lmao I am in the process of clearing 3 and 4 crown UL rn and man, I am so far from getting luza tf its actually sad
Luza really isn’t that bad to get, I think people just don’t like to play the culling stages enough in order to get him lol
I had all the UL legend TFs before getting Superfeline’s TF. So Superfeline is still significantly more of a grind imo (especially since the chance to get him from a normal ticket is like 5% per ticket and would therefore require opening ~2000 normal tickets on average to even get his TF. Also, Luza is absolutely worth every stone he requires even if it’s annoying to get them all
@@Geology051it’s not that people don’t like to play the stages, it’s that they are so difficult to consistently grind. Jinforce volcano is the only culling stage that you can semi-reliably get yellow stones, but it’s only on at either 7am 12pm or 7pm. This makes it so if you don’t wake up in time or aren’t available to play the stage when it’s up, you’re out of luck. And even when you are on at the appropriate time, you can only play it ONCE. With odds to get a yellow stone being 23% at best you will get one roughly every FOUR DAYS, and that’s if you even manage to play it everyday. The only consistent way to get yellow stones is the yellow stone enigma in hunters map III, but that requires 1000’s of energy to get each time and is again only playable ONCE. They are so good damn bullshit and Ponos making Luza cost TWENTY OF THOSE MF is so fucking cringe. I can’t wait for Hunters map IV so the behemoth stone grind will finally stop sucking so much swampy ass.
Honestly, when it comes to super feline, mynproblem isn't User rank, it's just getting enough of him to boost to lvl 100. Right now I have 14800 UR, it won't be long before I reach 15k, but I only have Superfeline at lvl 80, and the silver ticket system REALLY doesn't like giving me more fsr.
Filibuster TF is truly insane when you consider every other beast stone TF getting Collosal/Behemoth trait but for some reason his TF DOSENT??? He’d actually be useful vs behemoth units and same with colossal but for reason ponos said “ehh no”
behemoth and colossal arent real traits, even if he had slayer ability, he would still only be able to freeze white or relics while any other behemoth enemy would be unaffected
I always found superfeline’s unlock requirements absurd. And then the UR requirements to level him is just ridiculous. I am at UL 27 and only 6.8k UR. I will need over double my current UR to level him to +80, not to mention the 80 copies of it. And I don’t even have that many obscure collab units to burn xp on. Superfeline would have been great without the ur requirements, and even better if unlocked in ItF(although anti-relic is pretty useless until about cotc 2-3)
Im one of those players who just progress slowly so I have 8000 user rank and havent even finished SoL, cool video
as a newer player (empire of cats to be specific), i grinded alot in the other battle cats style games ponos made, to get 750 catfood and waited for uberfest to then buy the 11 draw (with the first 11 draw ever discount), getting 2 ubers in it, ice cat and momotaro, already upgraded it to 10 and i DESTROYED emperor nyandam, now i wonder if bunbun is gonna be the same.
@@chadcatidkimnotachadidenti7973 Momotaro is very good in early and mid game, I hope you use her well 🫡
Me too. 8475 and still haven’t finished SOL because I dont like doing it.
i only use NP on my beefcake cat because at the time i didn't have a few or any surge immune units at all and i only maxed out strengthen and attack up but now having LKD with surge immune and mini waves unlocked i will definitely use LKD for all surge stages (or maybe i'll use both if there's a 4* surge stage)
Holy damn i am so early. I love your stuff bro. Keep going ❤
I love his stuff too. I hope he blows up.
Every rare/super rare anti red with the exception of Roe(and cancan i guess..?) was somewhat practical. Until Courier cat arrived where it sh!ts out compared to them
i finished UL a few weeks ago, i used up all my xpboosts to grind xp colliseum and ive maxed out basically every single unit i own to level 30. loads of level 45s and 50s too. still only at 13.5k UR. getting 15k is insane, ill probably have to try to get every single eva collab unit since i missed it but hopefully i can use superfeline in 2 and 3 star
I really hope for metal slug collab to come back bc that has so many rares from the gacha that are ez to get
So that would be free UR(im at 12500 and ive got all units at lv 30+ except a few at 29
@@CatBattler223I have good news, maybe?
I love maximum the fighter and I honestly believe he is better than elemental duelist. He has never disappointed me and was one of my key units for 4 crown stages in SOL. He is a great unit and I love him.
OMG I FOUND ANOTHER MAXIMUM LOVER😍
2:20 best example of why having 1kb on a tanker is important
I wouldn't say 1kb is ideal all the time, just having low kb is nice. There are some tankers which benefit from having 2+kb, such as Keiji who can reposition to get boosted damage off before he goes down, or Garu so he can last on the field a little longer, since he's intended as a backup wall.
"players who push slowly have 10000 user rank at most when they finish UL"
Meanwhile me who just started UL (5. chapter right now) with 13280 UR: oopsie
maxs knockback actually isnt that bad, because he keeps on bouncing back to go to the front line instead of dying so a few of them can protect your units in back of him and then cluster up in the frontline gradually pushing and constantly bouncing back to protect the front line.
Maximum the fighter should have resistant to red, 1 or 2 KBs and a slight strenghthen would fit him well and he'll be a good alternative to roe
I think Maximum is a great generalist but to get his true use you need + levels
(Edit yes i know it’s said in the video)
literally shown in the video
@@TheBestFormOfHumor i didn’t watch it fully before posting this comment
I think you should’ve mentioned something about beefcake cat that cyborg cat also has talents and can be upgraded beyond level 50 due to gacha.
Max would be cracked if he had 1 kb, its sad that he's so underwhelming
I got 14500 ur and have done 11 UL chapters. Didn't realise it was not normal
Oh yeah, Balrog (the Dynamites one) problem. Yeah, he is absolutely busted and OP, but you need a lot of XP and NP to make him OP
Agreed. Some people act like balrog strengthen and max damage up is just something others will buy as soon as they get balrog
As someone who has (and used to often use) Balrog, I can say I’ve definitely prioritized quite a few other units talents over him
Uber talents are painful
@@TheBestFormOfHumor very. Gravolodon stole 200 of my NP so I could use it against esoteric uril (worth it)
@@Geology051Even before his talents are added, Balrog would still demolish most Deadly Advents. At the ebd of thr day, it's still just essentially Can Can on steroids.
12:30 around 10k ur at end of UL? I am at 12k at the start of it :/
I love using True Superfeline on my EN main, but I know damn well my 4k UR JP account is never gonna get that in the near future. Why PONOS
I wouldn’t really say that true superfeline is impractical really, I got him just by playing the game and getting normal tickets. I wasn’t dedicated to getting him but it just happened. It was more of a milestone than a goal to me
Yes, you’re right, superfeline is a very easy unit to obtain. However, the video talks specifically about his true form and it’s requirements, which are much harder to achieve
@@Geology051 that’s what I’m talking about. It’s hard but not really impracticable, just takes some time not resources
@@turt1100 Well, on average, it takes 1600 cat tickets to reach +80 superfeline, takes at least 300 units and 7500 catseyes with them all at level 50 to reach 15k user rank, or 500 units at level 30, and likely billions of xp in order to finally reach the milestone. Difficulty is subjective, but I’d say the general consensus is that doing all of what I mentioned is not easy or quick to do, therefore making it impractical. If you’ve found it easy, though, then there’s nothing I can say about that
@@Geology051 I didn’t say it was easy i was saying it wasn’t impractical. I’m not spinning on cat tickets and upgrading cat units specifically for superfeline (until I was at like 14k) I just did it because it’s part of the game. Superfelines tf just came in as a result of that not by directing time into it.
I don't get something about bondage cat, it's descriptipn literally says that he likes pain, but he has dodge talent
Here I am with 20k UR and I still haven’t progressed past Doron.
If that is legit, then zamn. I find that kind of hard to believe though
@@Geology051 yep, 20180 to be exact. I'm just really lazy when it comes to UL
Bro what have you been doing
That requires an ungodly amount of stalling on UL
I’ve been looking for a reason to play Deltarune again and the music gave me the push
I'm finished with 3 star UL and have maxed all my units to at least level 30 and still only have like 10,000 User Rank
I'm a user rank 17,000 2015 player, yet I still don't have superfelyne tf because you need so many tickets
I'd say that one of the most impractical ubers in the game is ST Akari (as in he's actually pretty good, but need too many resources). His super talents are pretty insane but in order to get those, you need an insane investment of dark cateyes, XP, and NP and at that point, might as well get the talents of different ubers that are more useful and that you would use more often. And plus with how hard it is to gain Dark Catseyes, the investment in not worth it, and i'm not even going to talk about the chance of getting Akari in the first place
Do you mean akira or akari?
@@bennilol2034 Whatever uber from the dark heros is are
Fire music choice
I know you did not just put my man and woman best couple in battle cats, roe cat, in the thumbnail nah
I would like to give my point on Maximum, Yes just like you said, it is rather impractical for rare units to reach+80 standards, but a lot of people nowadays already get their hands on some+40 rare units, and at worst，+30, the stat difference isn't that big and Maximum is shown to have really decent generalist usage(Yes I will say he is more like a generalist ms than an Anti red one) due to its relatively low cooldown when compared to other units like ramen when in a no research combo scenario, heck his hp is also really good, making it surviving even some boss hits. All in all I will say that Maximum usage is definitely not impractical and it is in a nice place of the game currently.
Yall are just lucky filibuster X doesn't have a 45 second attack rate with 575 range similar to his enemy counterpart
superfeline costs 3 kidneys and a half to max out
Or, put into perspective, if we used ponos’s outrageous XP to catfood system, 20 million xp is 15000 catfood, which costs around(?) three thousand dollars. If we assume one normal ticket is equal to 1/5th of a rare ticket, which means 1 normal ticket = $0.2, but due to the average 5% chance of getting super feline, if we assume average rng, we can conclude 20000 normal tickets, or 4000 more dollars. So our total to get JUST the XP and normal tickets if you’re a ptw scum is around 7000 dollars. Of course, no one’s paying that. It’s a thought experiment. We’re not mentioning UR. So it would cost atleast one kidney to buy true super feline if you’re that desperate.
to get to 15k user rank you'll need around 375 units (at base lvl 40) of course the numbers may be wrong with +numbers not being added in (someone who is more capable in math can solve that because i can't) i highly doubt any BC with ever reach even around 10k user rank (i have around 7900 user rank) maybe super feline's TF can be a reward for like clearing all UL chapters 3*
I have 15k user rank and I’ll tell you this: you’ll reach 15k faster than you’ll reach +80 superfeline
I have a user rank of 10 500 and I just obtained Lil' Nyandam from SoL. Most players at this time have cleared SoL at the very least, but I play the game as it was intended - first the campaign, then Legend Stages, and lastly SoL, UL and ZL. I even have beaten both Floors 40 in HT and IT with just levels 40. I do have some good ubers tho😅 Maybe when I get to UL, I will be the first to have the true form of Superfeline before reaching it!
Im at 14500 user rank and my super felyne is only 20+14…. Sadge
I love Beefcake in 4☆ chapters, but it requires lots of investment to make decent.
I would argue maximum is still good because he defense and health is good enough for him to still be great as a generalist.
Soooo guess I was really bad at the game? I was able to true form superfline before even being halfway through UL
underrated
Since I am so goddamn lazy to bother playing SoL and UL, I don't have idi yet but have a user rank of around 9300
At this rate maybe I'll get to 15000 before the end of UL xd
tbh im gonna max out the dmg talent first and then im gonna get into speed for can can
how beat greenland on empire of cats, chpt 1? i'm stuck on it.
I have never seen someone stuck at Greenland
I have never seen someone stuck at EoC 1
I was only stuck at greenland on ITF Chapter 2
Get more anti red units
Battle cats iceberg?
Me, who attempts to max out his Maximum the Fighter rn: "wow, cool"
Maximum the fighter is a meat shield
PLEASE keep this soundtrack I love the deltarune songs
Everyone Knows that LKD is better than beefcake in every way when talented although you can fully invest in beefcake to make him stronger
Maximum isnt bad unit, prof.A is one of the strongest red enemies and overall in the game, they dont even buff him that much, with 200% at maximum like in I'll be bug, sure his damage is shit, but fairly tanky for his cost, island and roe cost way higher so its not a fair comparison, elemental duelist is a better conparison, since it cost a bit more, and while it deals more damage, it has less HP, so its not that maximum is bad, you are putting him in bad matchups that wont fit other units similar to him like elemental duelist, even bath cat has less stats but still has some good matchups, like manic island courier due to its good anti red range
By saying ED is a better comparison to him, you're saying he sucks, right? You know Duelist is trash don't you?
Those sanzo in the intro be struggle to slow bunbuns
Um… cool thing to tell is how you play after your first playthrough!
I am in my second playthrough (my main bc didnt had an account linked and i accidentaly deleted it ): )
Now i am at ItF moon. With only 1000 User Rank.
"10,000 at most when they clear UL" Me who hasent even gotten to doron yet with like 9.4k UR
OK BONDAGE WILL BE THE ONE THING THAT LETS ME BEAT WRATH OF CARNAGE
Guys I need help,
What cats would you recommend for ITF chapter 3, (I've done all EOC and two ITF)
Seafarer
Seafarer, can can, cyberpunk, any anti alien users?
Using lil king dragon in the thumbnail was vile
5:00 wait I thought it was 20% is it 80!
80% is only for the catfood special cats 20% is for the rest of those Talents.
Killer tank cat has left the chat
I have over 11k user rank and I only recently beat the first UL stage, your whole spiel at the end makes me feel very very slow lol
One you missed out is filibuster cuz he’s not worth it
He literally mentions Fillibuster though? (8:25 to 10:27)
@@Perfection-given-form I didn’t notice it I just brushed it off it wasn’t even worth mentioning on how bad he is
Rip slime cat 6:49
Bondage is good, wdym?
Canned Juice: Most players have a user rank of 10000 by the time they finish UL.
Me: Uhh i just started UL on the second chapter and I have 14500 user rank lol. Maybe I should consider getting super feline lol. Shouldn't be much more since I can finally upgrade units to lv 50 lol. Then again I've been playing this game for years focusing on collecting more than anything. Also i haven't beat cotc 3 yet...
What is that kuala lineup canned bruh
proof that true superfeline is good because i win with a scuffed asf lineup
Fun fact, I had well over 12k ur by the time I finished SoL and to date I haven't finished anything past urs despite having played now for I think 3 years. I am currently stuck at level 20+77 and it's hell. I am a fucking mistake and I fully embrace it.
Same about Ape lusa and his stupid 100 stones cost
I have 14443 UR and haven't and I'm at humanity catified😢
Just hypermax lol - some battlecats youtuber
I haven't even hit UL yet but I'm over 11000 UR
I barely ever use beefcake even with talents. The other free surge immune units and many ubers are enough or better. Very overrated unit
MAXimum the fighter 4:18
I'm not done with sol, but i have nearly 7000 user rank
Bro I cleared 2* sol with 4k 💀
Same bro almost 7k and I'm up to musashi😭
Did you really just say to only invest in generalists and not use any specialized units at all? Have you made it past EOC? Also why the hell are you using level 30 maximum to take down master a without any other dps. He can keep master a at bay really well so that longer range nukers can kill him without being damage. He fits his nieche just fine.
He wasnt trying to take down the Professor A. He was showing how little hits Maximum can get on Professor A to show how the KB count affects his durability.
That clearly not what he said, you're being childish
i have 13,720 user rank and still at the beginning of UL 😅
Bro DOES NOT play sol 💀
What the hell??? I only have 3855, but in subchapter 33 SoL 💀
Nobody beats UL after 10k UR. Nobody.
Barlorg is one! hi potato!
For Beefacke, he has the advantage over LKD of being significantly more spammable.
Being more spammable only matter on easy stages that give u unlimited money
My ass with 10k user rank before primitive souls
about half way thru 3* UL n im only 12k user rank 💀
Make super feline true form just 9,000+ user rank bruh😢
i got 10k user rank before musashi💀
How? im on zero legends at 9.7k
I have 7500 user rank and I just started ul
You kinda sound like Alan from Smiling Friends
This youtuber sounds like Souptasta
Wonder why, almost like they're the same person ;)
A little bit. I guess it’s the accent but idk
That was a pretty mid lore dive, dude explained some stuff pretty poorly and missed some key details, but good enough ig.
Sadly fortnites lore failed after around chapter after the main writer or whatever left
Zombie is a slave 😢
I just max out all the cats
I don’t necessarily think maximum having worse stats is a “practicality problem”. If anything he’s more “practical” then island since you know if he has the stats to reach an enemy he’s not gonna miss because of single target thanks to area on him. Being a slow single target unit like island means it’s difficult to make sure island hits the unit you want him to hit. His stats just suck without boosting. Maximum is really practical but not effective and when he’s boosted he’s both practical and effective. When he’s good he’s really easy to use
Canned upload real
Wdyn
@@FutureUnknownThe TH-camrs name is CannedJuice and they uploaded a video, so it would be a Canned (juice) upload. The Real part is to point out the fact that it, is indeed, a real video.
@@clowny2877
Thx now i understand
Im 7000 user rank and not even vlose to fineshing stories of legends not ul;
Slug Jockey is Bad
"Doge" is pronouned "doe-gay" and is an anglicized spelling of the Japanese pronunciation of the English word "doggy." It's not pronounced like "doaj" with a soft "g" and one consonant.
Who cares?? Almost everyone has been saying "Doaj" so what's the point of saying it differently? Nothing significant even changes.
"island family" is this a fucking nature documentary?