Here's How Far My Cheap Nissan LEAF Goes On A Charge! Charging & 70-MPH Range Tests

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  • Kyle is back with another episode featuring the cheapest electric car for sale in the country! This time he wants to quantify exactly what he bought for only $3,750. Here's how far the car will go on a charge and how long it takes to charge
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  • @OutofSpecReviews
    @OutofSpecReviews  ปีที่แล้ว +18

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    • @terryrodbourn2793
      @terryrodbourn2793 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A guy in the UK got a bigger battery for the Leaf that will get then 140 miles on highway! Maybe you can do in States!

    • @Kimbrough87
      @Kimbrough87 ปีที่แล้ว

      funny you have to use a android phone when useing obd scan sucks I have to do the same thing on my mine

    • @christopherlane5238
      @christopherlane5238 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I appreciate the offer, but I would rather shit in my own mouth than own a tesla.

    • @NAY2GAS
      @NAY2GAS ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@terryrodbourn2793 He can definitely do it. There are 12 or so companies in the states that do this. He can find these places on the #NissanLEAFbatteryReplacement website.

    • @nissanleafbattery
      @nissanleafbattery ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christopherlane5238 I’d like to see that video.

  • @_cjmccullough
    @_cjmccullough ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Alyssa’s reaction after you said “50.2 miles” is hilarious 😂😂 that “Wowwwww” was so funny

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      For $5k total and super low fuel cost (or zero since I have workplace charging) 100km of range is more than enough to cover my and all my coworker's daily driving needs.

    • @_cjmccullough
      @_cjmccullough ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@anydaynow01 yeah for the average person it’s enough. But i drive 150 miles + per day so it’s not nearly enough for me

    • @JoeC41
      @JoeC41 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@anydaynow01 Once the AC charger is fixed and he can charge at home, then it would be a great inexpensive commuter car.

    • @AsekiBekovy
      @AsekiBekovy ปีที่แล้ว

      The Leaf can rapid charge, 50 miles are not really an issue. It's not a good long ditance car but the first few recharges are quite rapid on such a small battery. We have the env200 with the same charging speed and most recharges are less than 24 minutes

    • @Aaronhouston33
      @Aaronhouston33 ปีที่แล้ว

      Needs a new battery

  • @christopherhamilton5557
    @christopherhamilton5557 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I recently sold my 2012 Leaf, it just didn’t meet my needs other than getting to work. Probably the best car I EVER owned. Other than range, of course. Smooth ride, zippy acceleration, zero maintenance. Even got to charge it for free at my local Nissan dealer a lot of the time. Had it 6 years.

    • @jimpike7445
      @jimpike7445 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Had our 2012 Leaf for 7 years also with zero maintenance. Moved to a small town far enough from the city that my wife insisted on more range even though she could drive my 2013 Tesla if she wanted. We ended up with a 2017 Volt. Now that gas is so expensive, she will drive the Tesla. I especially loved the steering wheel heat which the Tesla doesn't have. The Volt will be replaced as soon as the Aptera is available.

    • @brock87___63
      @brock87___63 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How was the battery life when you sold it?

    • @rolandthethompsongunner64
      @rolandthethompsongunner64 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What was your average range ?

    • @danparish1344
      @danparish1344 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Zero maintenance, except for replacing the battery every few years.

    • @rolandthethompsongunner64
      @rolandthethompsongunner64 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danparish1344 😂

  • @chyldstudios
    @chyldstudios ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Next video: Drag race between Nissan Leaf vs Tesla Model S Plaid

    • @xsterawesome
      @xsterawesome ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'd love to see the visual.

    • @Miata822
      @Miata822 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      On a full charge, even an early LEAF can surprise most ICE cars away from the light.

    • @2013AirForce
      @2013AirForce ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, but in reverse!

    • @waynelevett3632
      @waynelevett3632 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Miata822 I have a chipped 2015 leaf from Japan. It goes pretty hard. Nothing beat me yet from the lights 😂. 9 second to 100 kph. I'm loving it. What a fun car. I have Tesla badges on it hahaha. I chase and impress model 3s but I don't win 😂.

    • @Sophia-vk5bq
      @Sophia-vk5bq ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The leaf dies out of the gate. lol

  • @rzu7120
    @rzu7120 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    For me, this was more interesting than a Plaid video.

    • @FuncleChuck
      @FuncleChuck ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree, because normal people can buy and drive a Leaf; but only very rich people will ever own a Plaid

  • @pgsahlman
    @pgsahlman ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I daily-drive a 2013 Leaf with about 60K miles. I love it. It's a city car really, since the range is down to about 60 miles w/o HVAC. Now, that 60 miles covers about 95% of my driving, with a Volvo S80 as a backup for longer trips. I've replaced one tire due to a puncture, and a set of wiper blades in 4 1/2 year of ownership. Great-driving car.

  • @TheNebekenezer
    @TheNebekenezer ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Not long after watching your video I was finally able to buy a Nissan Leaf for myself. My first EV.
    The trip home was 112 miles from the dealership. Best distance it was able to achieve between charges was 64 miles at highway speeds 65-70mph.
    So far I love my little go-cart. 😊

    • @markburrows1025
      @markburrows1025 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have a 2019 model with 40 kw pack, it has a range around 120-140 miles. Each day my work commute is 100 /110 per day.

    • @rolandthethompsongunner64
      @rolandthethompsongunner64 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So city miles would be more ?

    • @Google_Does_Evil_Now
      @Google_Does_Evil_Now 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@rolandthethompsongunner64over 50 mph and wind drag becomes significant. 70mph is much higher drag. But also if you're in a huge congested city then you might only be going 10mph. So.

  • @epcalderhead
    @epcalderhead ปีที่แล้ว +56

    In the end the GOM was correct at 50. In the right conditions you can hit about 6 miles/kWh if eco driving around town. I can see this car getting around 85 miles assuming there is 15 kWh available. Love your maniacal enthusiasm. You can also reset the mi/kWh meter before the trip.

    • @uhjyuff2095
      @uhjyuff2095 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he probably could have got a another mile or so but he decided to floor it at the end.

    • @terrymattingly6843
      @terrymattingly6843 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      My wife, with a pretty solid battery, used to get about 85 and more like 70 in dead of winter. That was in the model II revised Leaf, a 2015.

    • @toranderssrvold8084
      @toranderssrvold8084 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It will keep on running ut to 0.5 kwh left, I know from experience....

  • @petrkubena
    @petrkubena ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Was looking at 30 minute long video, testing leaf at 70mph ... sounds about right.

  • @BillyJay2679
    @BillyJay2679 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Enjoy your adventures with used Leaf. I'm the guy with the Sky Blue 2012 Leaf charging beside you at the Powerhouse about 4 weeks ago when you asked me what I would sell mine for. Sure was surprised the next week when you bought one and brought it home. Just to compare your bargain to mine.... last Nov I scored a 2012 for $4,000 34k miles perfect body and interior, working onboard charger! (off of Craigslist) So when you test it out I really enjoy your adventures because I'm right along beside you with my sister Leaf every mile. P.S You shared with me a secret of your future modification plans but I won't tell!

  • @busog97641
    @busog97641 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    *Yes, I would love to see you do a city driving range test!!!*

    • @terrymattingly6843
      @terrymattingly6843 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Amen. That's what Leaf owners care about. Stuff at 50 mph and under.

  • @adamchoi8136
    @adamchoi8136 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That was a perfect scenario with the roll into the charging spot. Nice work!

  • @jamescabaniss5857
    @jamescabaniss5857 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I bought my Leaf about 3 years ago. I had been watching electric car prices for a while and I could not figure out why these were so cheap. I did not get answers so I decided to buy one to figure it out. My cost was about $4500 for 2013 in perfect shape. The battery had 10 out of 12 bars left. It was a high mileage one at 71,000 miles but being garaged stored it was in perfect shape and mileage means less with ecars, it is the battery condition that is important. The old technology golf cart I wanted was $8000 used (they all looked like they got dragged up from a lake). And they used lead acid batteries, could not go on streets above 36 mph, had no AC, and had no doors etc., basically they were no comparison to the Leaf. A new golf cart cost $25,000 and above, an absolutely crazy price?
    The Leaf I bought has grabby brakes, it does not handle well on curves, the doors are tinny, and when you shut them things rattle. If I go through a car wash water comes flooding in. And I had to compare this to my last car which was a Mazda Protégé 5 which is an absolutely amazing car, it handles so well, like driving a go cart. But I absolutely love my Leaf. So nice, no gas station to hassle with. And it was so good, I sold a great car, so no more Mazda.
    I absolutely love it. so simple to use, no gas stations, no oil change, no engine to worry about, no transmission to worry about, no cooling system to worry about, I could go on and on, but you get it. Not one problems in 3 years of ownership.

    • @rolandthethompsongunner64
      @rolandthethompsongunner64 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How’s the A/C and defrost heat work ?

    • @jamescabaniss5857
      @jamescabaniss5857 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rolandthethompsongunner64 I never had to use the defrost heat, I live in a moderate climate. The A/C works fine, but I never use it either. The actual heat is ok, but bad compared to a gas car. I like to crank the heat up and you can not do that in a Leaf.

  • @widam
    @widam ปีที่แล้ว +11

    that little car save me around 3K in gasoline this summer, yes has a small battery, and needs to recharge often, but for local runs is great. one tip for highways, use Drive mode to accelerate fast, get to the speed you need and then just slightly add power to maintain speed, you drain the battery less that way.

  • @michaelsmithers4900
    @michaelsmithers4900 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely love this series

  • @Chrisb8s
    @Chrisb8s ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Wow. That’s not bad for those speeds. A 55 mph test or just around town test would be cool

    • @rolandthethompsongunner64
      @rolandthethompsongunner64 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I’m not gonna buy a 4,000 EV to get on the interstate or highway unless I absolutely have too😂

  • @BillyJay2679
    @BillyJay2679 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Somebody else noticed Alyssa's lowkey reaction. She is great. She is a perfect straight guy to your high energy excitement about everything electric. You make a great team!

  • @javidam
    @javidam ปีที่แล้ว +9

    THE highway range test of the year, LOL. But you have to give it to Kyle for how enthusiastic he is with this testing of the Leaf. Looking forward to the around town range test and then the comparison of efficiency.

  • @thomassantiago4084
    @thomassantiago4084 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Count me in for the hypermiling around town video. ALSO, definitely can't wait for the on-board charger upgrade. And if you do decide to change out the battery, I'm game for that one too!

  • @necessaryevo
    @necessaryevo ปีที่แล้ว +9

    2011 LEAF owner here. Couple things: on mine, with 8/12 capacity bars remaining (4 bar loser as the kids say), fully charged I show SOC of 93.1% and 13.6 kWh remaining. And when DC charging below 50% SOC, it will stop at 90%. Above 50% it will go to 100%. Keep us updated as to the degradation, love the comparison.

    • @normt430
      @normt430 ปีที่แล้ว

      With MyGrrenVolt app(all GM PHEV including Volt, ELR, CT6 plug-in hybrids) will show cell balanced very accurate when all cells are at their lowest levels. Kyle probably shouldn't use partial SOC whe n reviewing cell balance.

    • @TechnicalLee
      @TechnicalLee ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hmm, so the stop at 90% is by-design then rather than a BMS issue? Probably to control overheating?

    • @xboxice2005
      @xboxice2005 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wow my 2012 9bar Leaf never see 100% change it always stop at 95% leaf spy reports.

    • @AsekiBekovy
      @AsekiBekovy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xboxice2005 that's something else. Leaf spy shows the gross capacity which can not be fully used. Leaf should always charge to 100%, but only after it shuts off and charging session gets started a second time

  • @briannugent1557
    @briannugent1557 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Nice run, Kyle! That was pretty brave toward the end. I think that pulse to 40kW is what really made it panic. There is a precursor to Turtle-mode, and those are the "POWER" bubbles. Normally, they're all doubled up. At 27:46, two of the double-bubbles turned to single (unusable) ones - same as "dashes" on the high end of the power meter on the Tesla. At 28:15, four total were single. At 28:40, you got the turtle and 8 of 9 were single. Also at high SoC (like at 14:52), you don't have double-bubbles on the regen (left) side - same as Tesla dashes on the left. Interestingly, comparing the LeafSpy consumed number at the start (at 12:30, 4447Wh) to the end (at 29:40, 19740Wh), you actually got 15.3kWh out of the pack. Congrats! Edit: Also noticed the GOM was dead on from the start - how often does THAT happen?!

    • @uhjyuff2095
      @uhjyuff2095 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, I was wondering what the power limiting gauge was like on the leaf. I will have to rewatch and see what it looks like when the pack gets really low charge.

    • @TechnicalLee
      @TechnicalLee ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The first time I read your comment I had no idea what you were talking about as a non-Leaf driver, but I think I figured it out. Wow, those double vs. single rings on the power meter are not very obvious at all. Very subtle and highly nuanced, but that's how the Japanese are. Personally I think that could have been done better.

  • @keithv3767
    @keithv3767 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I have a friend that had the 2012 Leaf with the small battery, and he could get almost 60 miles of range in the summer. In the winter it was less than 40. The Leaf is heavily effected by cold weather.

  • @simonthebroken9691
    @simonthebroken9691 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you. Looking forward to the charger repair videos.

  • @franciscote974
    @franciscote974 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice! A brand new charging video to watch, just as I am waiting in my Kona EV to complete its own charge...

  • @edvoon
    @edvoon ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A LEAF should be the second car in every 2+ car household. Cheap to get and aside from the battery, Nissan have done a wonderful job designing this very efficient city runabout. The LEAF's battery, unlike newer EVs, is relatively simple to change and there are already some companies designing aftermarket batteries for it.

  • @rye811
    @rye811 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Alyssa could not be less interested, her reactions make me laugh every video.

    • @PD-we8vf
      @PD-we8vf ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Do you think anything this mommas boy does has ever interested her?

    • @prawnmikus
      @prawnmikus ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I'm glad he doesn't go out of his way to entertain a female. In general they only care about social interactions and feelings, not engineering. Props to those who do!
      Can you imagine how primitive the world would be if they didn't have us? No offense to any, it's just true (again, in general).
      So no, not a mommas boy -- he's doing his own thing.

    • @tomreingold4024
      @tomreingold4024 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I noticed she’s not comfortable being on camera.

    • @galesal1109
      @galesal1109 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I find it kinda annoying but that’s just me.

    • @bdeithrick
      @bdeithrick ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PD-we8vf only 5.5 things

  • @timgurr1876
    @timgurr1876 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why anyone would be impressed at achieving 50 miles of range at 70 mph then having to recharge to literally go anywhere else is beyond me?? At my age I want comfort, low noise, and range. However, his enthusiasm keeps me watching. Still waiting for those new EV’s that fit my price range.

    • @pinkiepie1656
      @pinkiepie1656 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because its a great car for around town. Not every trip is to another state.

    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 ปีที่แล้ว

      1980. Stuff Hass less range then 50 milees

  • @Miata822
    @Miata822 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The early LEAFs respond very well to hypermiling. 40+PSI in good tires, climate off, accelerator control, preserving momentum, slowing before a light to let it turn green... Trying to get max range from my high mileage used 2011 LEAF (1st EV, got it as a joke) replaced my "daily hundred". Doing the hypermile version of 10/10 driving may still irritate other drivers but if fed the competitive urge and was less likely to put me in a hospital or jail.
    That was over 7 years ago now. LEAF is long gone, but a young relative still drives it today. Nissan replaced the battery a couple years ago, out of warranty but there was a recall. Driving a Lucid today I may have returned to my prior evil ways I'm afraid.

    • @uhjyuff2095
      @uhjyuff2095 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For sure, if he drove 60mph he could have extended the range by 20 percent!!!

    • @golfish8589
      @golfish8589 ปีที่แล้ว

      You have returned to hypermiling?
      I just saw the lightyear roll about 3km after releasing accelerator

    • @Miata822
      @Miata822 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@golfish8589 No, quite the opposite. The Lucid's big battery and incredible driving dynamics encourage me to drive inefficiently.

    • @rolandthethompsongunner64
      @rolandthethompsongunner64 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’ve seen the Lucids beautiful cars.

    • @rolandthethompsongunner64
      @rolandthethompsongunner64 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Miata822😂

  • @CGR89
    @CGR89 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That is crazy, this vehicle would get me to my current job 1 way with 5 miles to spare, and it would be 10 miles short of my previous job. Glad battery technology has improved in the past decade.

  • @mjcmjc6428
    @mjcmjc6428 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for another great video

  • @DarrylTalks
    @DarrylTalks ปีที่แล้ว

    The Leaf is a well thought out car for the driver. I really love my one. I have done about 85,000km in 5 years. My one is good for a 130km round trip, I have an 80km round trip commute at the moment. On the older Leaf the charging speed and regen are good in the bottom half of the battery. The speed limit is 100km where I live, but you can drive 90 in the slow lane without holding people up, if you want to maximise range.

  • @Geremy_V
    @Geremy_V ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for doing this on one of these vehicles on the Nissan leaf I thought about buying one, but didn’t know what the mileage range was or rather how they worked 50 miles is low but would work on short trips so thanks 😮

  • @dh-1399
    @dh-1399 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the LEAF videos.. keep them up please.
    I know in my 2018 with the 40kWh pack there can be some strange behavior during top charging and a lot of times it will stop around 98% regardless of AC or DC. I have always assumed this is because it has detected that it needs to do some cell balancing and cuts out early.
    I think the early models might have had a charge limit setting?? Check under Zero Emission button -> Settings -> Long Life (infotainment) mode or under the charge timers (gauge cluster menu).
    I think you can get 80 miles in your proposed city circuit test. These cars will obviously not win any interstate efficiency awards but under 50mph it's a whole different story.
    Would love to see a series of videos on the AC charger repair.
    It's good to see you blocking up a CPE-250 for the 2nd or 3rd time that day. This is what the community expects from all of us to maintain our image.

    • @dr.jamesolack8504
      @dr.jamesolack8504 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is a CPE-250?

    • @dh-1399
      @dh-1399 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dr.jamesolack8504 - The model of DC charger he is standing in front of in the video. Chargepoint CPE-250.

  • @kubi0461
    @kubi0461 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd swear he seems more energetic during this video than when first doing the Rivian tests. It's subtle but noticeable.

    • @kennyfordham6208
      @kennyfordham6208 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's from range anxiety. His adrenaline is kicking in from fear of being stranded. 😏

  • @TRYtoHELPyou
    @TRYtoHELPyou ปีที่แล้ว

    Tks for doing this. So awesome!

  • @gelisob
    @gelisob ปีที่แล้ว +2

    9:55 balance at full batt is expected. The most information is seen when you look at those cell voltages at high speed low battery state.
    You can adjust the "scale" on the cell screen by tapping top or bottom side of the graph, to make it reasonable :) 0.01v difference making huge spikes is not useful info.

  • @shredmas
    @shredmas ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes the 2013 and later Nissan leafs you could set the peak charge level at 80%. I'd like to see a video of of Kyle having this battery pack swapped out for a 40 KW hour pack they do do that I think it's about $6,000 to have it done aftermarket

  • @stevenesheim
    @stevenesheim ปีที่แล้ว

    We had 2015 leaf from 2017 to 2022. Great car, no problems. If you can live with the small range it makes a good daily driver. When we traded it for our Bolt I calculated our total cost of ownership. Purchased price -traded in value, electricity, maintainence (tires, wipers, and a 12 volt battery) the total cost was less than what we would have paid for gas for the ICE car it replaced to drive the same number of miles.

  • @michaelgamber5408
    @michaelgamber5408 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice, i found one of these a 2012 leaf only issue which is a bummer the regen is all but gone
    Any data on that issue
    Thanks!

  • @kennethjessop6073
    @kennethjessop6073 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Once you get the onboard charger, you’ll get to swipe left with the plug to open the orange hatch and insert in one move. Bliss.

  • @sdcllc8727
    @sdcllc8727 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm looking forward to all of your Leaf videos.

  • @SuperchargedJester
    @SuperchargedJester ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good call doing the leaf videos! Lots of us leaf owners in Colorado 🤠

  • @marietiggelaar628
    @marietiggelaar628 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I just had a camping family trip 102 miles away with fully loaded leaf 2022 62kwh. with 3
    Young kids and a strengthened aluminium hitch basket with a 11ft3 bag. I averaged 3.1 mi/kWh on the highway at cruise set at 72-74 mph for 90 miles of the trip. Outside temp was 80 f. Without any load I do 3.5 mi/kWh on highway. And 4-4.4 mi/kWh in town. Winter performance was not too different ( In TN). Cheers.

  • @paulstewart1626
    @paulstewart1626 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, let's have a look at the city range test. Well done leaf. Great video.

  • @Nalla328
    @Nalla328 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played with the SETEC Power inverter. Amazing how plug and play it was.

  • @Poteluz
    @Poteluz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought a 2013 Nissan Leaf S for $3000 with 90,000 miles and 10 out of the 12 battery health bars. Full charge does 80-85 miles range depending on your driving. Car is really more of a city or around town commuter which is exactly what I needed it for. My wife's commute to work and back is 40 miles. This car really shines at the 30-45 mph driving speed, once you hit over 50 mph it's going to eat away at your range.

  • @CtDDtC1919
    @CtDDtC1919 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! I appreciate your, clear and concise explanation of information. I purchased a 2015 Nissan Leaf SL for 9K in September of 2021. It had 67K miles on it and 11 out of 12 bars on battery health. My Credit Union sold me an extended warranty that covers everything (including the 24KW battery) for 8 years beyond my purchase date, for $1900. Originally it was advertised as having 84 miles of range on a charge. Depending on how aggressively I drive, and if I am using the A/C or Heater, I get a City Driving range of 68 miles to 85 miles. All charging is done at home with 120VAC. I charge once every 7 to 10 days... never letting the charge drop below 25%. I plug it in at night, and the next morning it is at 100%. Previously I drove a Full Size Ford Bronco with a V8. Home Budget software shows a savings of $4800 in gasoline at the 1 year mark. Our house has a 6.27Kw Solar system on it, and even with charging the car, we generate a surplus. I will admit I wasn't keen on getting an EV at first, but after driving it for a short while, I came to LOVE it. The instant torque is addictive, low decibels in the cab makes for pleasant conversation (I'm hard of hearing) , and not having to go to the gas station and throw money into the tank constantly have all made me change my mind. It is a local commuter. If there is highway traveling to be done, we take my wife's gas car. They are not a good fit for everyone, but for those whom they make practical sense, I highly recommend!

    • @conrado800
      @conrado800 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should turn on the 80% long life battery mode

    • @callmebigpapa
      @callmebigpapa 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The right tool for the job!

  • @Robert-pm6bm
    @Robert-pm6bm ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Can you guys do a video on what went wrong with home charging and how you go about fixing it?

    • @71johnf
      @71johnf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He said he would, and it’s not “home charging” it’s A/C charging and it’s a broken component in the car. Not a broken charger.

    • @Robert-pm6bm
      @Robert-pm6bm ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@71johnf his home charging systems are broken. Different topic bud

    • @letmenot
      @letmenot ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What's this home charger you people are going on about.? My 2012 leaf sl came with a L2 cord so for about $40 I bought a dryer outlet, a double 20amp breaker and a box and installed it myself in my garage.

    • @troosimimimmi
      @troosimimimmi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@letmenot its called onboard charger on the car and his car accepts only dc charging common problem on leaf

    • @TechnicalLee
      @TechnicalLee ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I haven't seen the promised video on it yet. I'm curious what the heck happened.

  • @patrickmaloy5262
    @patrickmaloy5262 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There must be a developing market for battery upgrades for the myriad of electric vehicles as battery technology improves. The possibilities are limitless, and the Leaf is a prime example of an "easy to swap" battery design.

  • @alexanderkrichevsky9194
    @alexanderkrichevsky9194 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this test. What antenna are you using for the LeafSpy? Mine doesn't work anymore.

  • @ladonnalewis4296
    @ladonnalewis4296 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was a fun video! That little Leaf is in pretty good shape battery-wise. Loved it. I bet it has not been charged to 100 percent and discharged down to zero very often, the BMS was probably totally confused. I wonder how it will be now that you have discharged it and charged it to 100 a couple of times. Also, I wonder how it would be if it were AC charged to 100 and had a chance to balance the battery a bit better.

    • @Yonder27
      @Yonder27 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch one blow up if you want something fun to watch🔥💥🔥🗣Nothing but a HUGE HOLE IN THE GROUND LEFT😱‼️

  • @rossim1918
    @rossim1918 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do you have two channels? I watch when you first purchased the leaf and looked forward on a follow up then found this video but under a different channel. Thanks for the video

  • @williamwebberjr8045
    @williamwebberjr8045 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd definitely like to see the video of how to max the range around town.

  • @howardmarkert8150
    @howardmarkert8150 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job on the high speed test, I really want to see what you can do in town.

  • @MechayaAlta
    @MechayaAlta ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like your standardized range test. I think you would have more views if they were shorter, about 10 minutes long. I love our 2022 Nissan Leaf SV plus.

  • @gelisob
    @gelisob ปีที่แล้ว

    6:14 DC charger goes directly to battery and only very little is lost to heat, if charger measures and reports energy that leaves the cable.
    AC charging has inverter in between with losses.

  • @howarddavis2193
    @howarddavis2193 ปีที่แล้ว

    A Question How Much to replace the Battery pack in the Leaf if you had to tomorrow ?

  • @Gunsforfreedom
    @Gunsforfreedom ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta watch those temps when running it down to 0% then charging at a level 3 charger! Nice test man.

  • @grantlouw3182
    @grantlouw3182 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely need to do a round town range please!

  • @jongoode3296
    @jongoode3296 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had read that the Leafs were speed limited, so when I found a downhill portion of interstate with a tailwind I tested how fast my 13 Leaf would go. I got to 110mph indicated before I ran out of road, it never hit any limiter. It's not very useful since it'd go about 20 miles at that speed, though.

  • @beinlikeerrth
    @beinlikeerrth ปีที่แล้ว

    That leaf app gives good data - love your videos! They’re super informative for an Ev shopper like myself! A phev owner on my way to electric ⚡️

  • @jeffs9850
    @jeffs9850 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m very familiar with that stretch from Wellington, CO northward. I guess the biggest concern about EV’s in the West is long empty distances.

  • @mahhubbard
    @mahhubbard ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alyssa is like, do we have to? We have guest waiting to go to dinner! I wish I had a 2012 leaf. My commute is 6 miles daily I’d never use my gas cars, unless traveling away from home. Great video great enthusiasm. Big thumbs up. And subscribed!

  • @conrado800
    @conrado800 ปีที่แล้ว

    Under the blue Energy button, you can set 80% charge limit :)
    Also, as Leaf’s get older the BMS gets crazy, percentages stop mattering LOL
    There is a percentage display if you cycle thru the menus

  • @showme360
    @showme360 ปีที่แล้ว

    We are in the UK and we have 2 Nissan Leaf cars, a 2011 like yours, and a 2015. They are 2 completely different cars the newer one is far better with the improved battery chemistry and improved regen. But want I wanted to say was that during the winter months we use our 2015 which has bidirectional charge to run our ASHP on cheap over night electricity all day long. (the 2011 does not have this option) To achieve this we purchased the Setec 6kw mobile power station, which sits inside the old housing of our oil burning boiler. The Setec will also come in handy if the other car runs out of duce, but for the last 5 years we've never run out or even come close. So it interesting for to see you put this to the test. We are looking to swap out the old batteries, as on the Leaf they are interchangeable. We aim to either find a 40kwh pack to replace the 2015 24kwh pack, and use the 2015 pack to swap out for the 2011. Both cars will double in range 2011 80 miles, 2015 160 miles per charge. Cost has been quoted at £12k to swap out both batteries, and dismantle the 2011 pack to sell on the cells at around £100 each and as there is 34 of them thats £3.4k back in the bank. So we get 2 cars with better range at £8.6k which is cheap than buying an newer 2019 40kwh Leaf currently advertised at £20k thats a saving of £11.4k which is cheap motoring, and house heating. I love my Leaf Nissan!

  • @Mladjasmilic
    @Mladjasmilic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At full, it is normal to have all cells balanced. That is why it takes so much time to charge fully, is because the car does bleeding off some cells to allow for others to fully charge.
    The real indicator is the voltage difference at low state of charge. Those which are drained more than others are with bad heath.

  • @jestronixhanderson9898
    @jestronixhanderson9898 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love mine, mine has 17kwh 2014 model, work and back :) i doubled the motor power in mine with an e+ inverter so its lots of fun in the 5 second bracket :)

  • @NorthernEVexperience
    @NorthernEVexperience 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Video as always, a buddy of mine had one of these and he loved it until his onboard charger died and he bought an newer leaf.

  • @MrKillerRC
    @MrKillerRC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Last week I bought a 2013 Leaf SV with 41k miles, for $2,000. I love it.

  • @ec7287
    @ec7287 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've gotta tell ya, Kyle, I'm with you all the way about this Leaf. For years, I saw them around while driving my Civic and thought, what an ugly little car. But this pas March, with gas prices rocketing, and the fact that we installed 26 PV panels along with a Tesla Powerwall, I decided to go electric. THere was a long wait for a Tesla (the prices are high anyway), and none of the dealers here had EVs in stock (I'm on an island in the middle of the Pacific. Figure it out.) So when the Nissan dealer called to say they got a 2019 Leaf in, I grabbed it. I'm so glad I did. Nissan must have put their "A" team on the design and development of this car. It's all the things you rave about and more. Quiet, smooth, comfortable, all the things you'd want in a daily driver. Mine is an SV Plus with the 62 kwh battery that's supposed to get 220 miles on a full charge. I haven't got that much, but that's mainly because I have to commute over a mountain. The 2.5 mile uphill to the top uses up 10-12 miles, depending on how big of a hurry I'm in. But absent that daily climb, I'm convinced I wouldn't have to charge more than once a week. All and all, I, too am ecstatic with this car. It's a shame that Nissan is apparently going to phase the line out over the next year or two.

  • @wtmayhew
    @wtmayhew ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tires: factory Ecopia are the most efficient and probably best bet. They get very noisy as they wear down. If you replace tires, get the newer version Ecopia which has a much better tread wear rating.

  • @charlesdavis7461
    @charlesdavis7461 ปีที่แล้ว

    So when you first tried to charge, was that like putting diesel in a gas model?

  • @AtlasAir767CA
    @AtlasAir767CA ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this video makes me want one! I even looked on Ebay and can't find a good deal sadly :(

  • @ichigo19870
    @ichigo19870 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Haha Kyle, another Bjorn fan. Any collab planned for the winter? Would love to see two nerds nerding together. Maybe a nice camping trip in the ID Buzz? Or would Alyssa be too jealous?^^

  • @jimparr01Utube
    @jimparr01Utube ปีที่แล้ว

    Very Cool test for an 'elderly?' Nissan Leaf. I am impressed. 3700 bucks. Great buy.
    If I were you I would be reticent about replacing the battery module just yet. But when the time comes, I hope you ensure the old one will be recycled in the most practical way. Cannot remember who that TELSA guy was who started the leading-edge recycling company, but that would be my choice for disposal.
    So great to see that some early EV vehicles can still make a good impression on the thrust towards a focused energy supply - electrical - whatever the original energy source.
    This makes the much needed refurbishment of energy delivery SO MUCH MORE SIMPLE.

  • @dreamrelaxation7239
    @dreamrelaxation7239 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I live in an area where 70 mph is not really possible. Traffic is so jammed up that the real average is more like 28 mph average (that's average speed). Sometimes less if the train holds you up.

  • @wtmayhew
    @wtmayhew ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Low beam is LED (there is an angle adjuster on the lower left dash). High beam is halogen.

    • @TechnicalLee
      @TechnicalLee ปีที่แล้ว

      Angle adjuster? Like up/down beam angle? Is that legal on low beams?

    • @wtmayhew
      @wtmayhew ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TechnicalLee I can’t speak to the legality, but my 2011 LEAF which was native to the US market had a knob on the lower left dash which adjusted the beam angle slightly. The owner’s manual somewhat cryptically said the control was provided for correcting headlights based on the number of occupants. No suggestions on how to accomplish that task correctly were given. I left my control on 3 out of a scale 1 to 10 and it seemed like a good compromise no matter how many passengers were in the car. My guess is it was a sort of cheap-out for an auto leveling mechanism the car should have had. My parents had a Lexus RX300 wagon which you could see went through an headlight aiming procedure every time the key was turned on.
      The other unusual feature that apparently only existed on the 2011 LEAF is that a push button was provided to disable the pedestrian warning system noise maker which sounds like a cross between a tea kettle and dragging brake shoe. The PWS would stay off until the the car was switched off. The PWS automatically reenabled at the next power on. In later models you could (possibly illegally) just pull the fuse for the PWS module.

  • @frankypc
    @frankypc ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 7 bar 2012 leaf. I drive it 36 miles daily for work and its a solid curiser for sure

  • @sNEAKYnIGHTmUPPET
    @sNEAKYnIGHTmUPPET ปีที่แล้ว

    I would have liked it if you had shown the individual cell voltages when empty. Would be neat to see if it is just one cell that is killing the range. You can rebuild/repair those with cells from green tech auto on ebay. just a thought.

  • @CascadeDuSel
    @CascadeDuSel ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos!

  • @grazz7865
    @grazz7865 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was watching a documentary about electric cars. The narrator said “if you’re going on a cross country trip and you have to stop in every state to recharge, you may as well go by horse and carriage”

  • @steveschneider3696
    @steveschneider3696 ปีที่แล้ว

    What will it cost to fix the AC charger? Thanks

  • @Billbobaker
    @Billbobaker ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a 2013 Nissan Leaf SV and just loved it but someone ran a red light and t boned me so it was totalled.
    I would like to get another one and have the battery upgraded to 40kw.
    Very fun car to drive and loaded with nice features.

  • @Nada-HopeDesigns
    @Nada-HopeDesigns ปีที่แล้ว

    Does your leaf have B mode and/or eco mode?

  • @dermotdonnelly5495
    @dermotdonnelly5495 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it the 24 or 30kWhr battery in this Leaf? I don't recall you mentioning that.

  • @rolandthethompsongunner64
    @rolandthethompsongunner64 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m impressed Nissan finally did something right. My mechanic told me avoid Nissans altogether. Although some are reliable they have issues especially transmissions.

  • @chrisw443
    @chrisw443 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The wow at the end from alyssa is my partner when I start going on a hypermile adventure. LOL

  • @talk2kev
    @talk2kev ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video . Do the cars do better mileage in town. The term dead as a doornail, comes from the late 1800's and early 1900's when people would recycle nails pull them from old structures and re use the nails. Doornail where hammered through then bent over to keep the door together as well keep people from hurting themselves. This keeps the nail in tight ,if you ever tried to pull a bent over nail you will most likely tear off its head or bend it straight making the tip weak and hard to drive in. Hints the term Dead as a doornail.
    .

  • @jboomhauer
    @jboomhauer ปีที่แล้ว +6

    50 miles at 70mph is very impressive!

    • @skywatch4639
      @skywatch4639 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No it's not, it's pathetic.

    • @lostvlog6857
      @lostvlog6857 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skywatch4639 why buy this?

    • @outdoorsnevada4138
      @outdoorsnevada4138 ปีที่แล้ว

      120 miles at 70 would be more impressive

  • @gelisob
    @gelisob ปีที่แล้ว +2

    27:50 looking at cell voltage is useful when the percentages and stuff is confusing. Turtle mode comes when some amount of cells go under.. hmm, was it 3.3v? not sure. But using that display you can carefully drive by cell voltages and being gentle not to sag cells too low :D

    • @greengrass89
      @greengrass89 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah she’s due for some good slow charging and balancing for sure!

  • @bshandyateverything
    @bshandyateverything ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes to all the video ideas!

  • @1a2b3c4.
    @1a2b3c4. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you know that the on board DC charger is not working?

  • @rolandthethompsongunner64
    @rolandthethompsongunner64 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These definitely seem like fantastic city cars especially in warm climates. The price is definitely a great deal. 👍

  • @danimper2517
    @danimper2517 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh Thats intresting make more videos with these kinda cars ;)

  • @MetalManTX666
    @MetalManTX666 ปีที่แล้ว

    so how much does it cost to charge up in these stations??? how does that work???

  • @fusion8484
    @fusion8484 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Maybe you should talk to the guy who owns Muxsan ev equipment. He has tons of experience in leafs and is basically the go to guy here. They are located in Rotterdam. I’ve visited him numerous times and he’s a really nice guy. Give me a shout out if you need help contacting him.

  • @DarrylTalks
    @DarrylTalks ปีที่แล้ว

    If you look at your leafspy cell graphs when the battery is fairly near flat it will show you (highlight, I guess) the cells in the pack that are less well balanced.

  • @beautyofgrace3915
    @beautyofgrace3915 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these videos on the leaf

  • @etdweasel
    @etdweasel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah, I wanna see the hypermile run! You’ve turned me around on buying an old Leaf, I’m scouring the ads now…👍

  • @ericm4840
    @ericm4840 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the process to recalibrate a BMS?