I BOUGHT A CHEAP NISSAN LEAF FOR £3,800!
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nissan EV tech here, that battery is fooked [thats the technical term for a "6 bar" HV battery]
you have 2wks left to try and get a claim through nissan...
It was first registered 24 March 2016 so the battery is still within warranty for another 7 weeks; you’re correct though re it being fooked, he needs to get a move on and take it up with Nissan.
Whats his chances?
he is in the public eye, so better than us lot...@@emmakane7888
This was 3 weeks ago, wonder how it went?
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Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
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6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
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Perfect sort of thing for retired grandparents with a home charger whose sole reason to get in a car is to drive to the shops and back or go to pottery class.
Exactly... the worst thing for ICE cars are short trips that don't heat everything up to operating temp... I own plenty of performance wagons and would happily consider a Leaf or Prius over a scooter for short town trips.
Till they need to deal with a public charger lol
@@allosaurusfragilis7782 Well into retirement, buy a bungalow where you’re planning of spending your remaining years, garage/driveway to yourself to have a charger installed in, don’t feel confident doing any more big drives and don’t need to as kids drive to you / ferry you about for anything long. People generally get less and less confident or find it too much fuss to drive a lot in the latter years until they just end up pottering around locally (and eventually give up their licence or have it taken away from them). Battery won’t likely ever go under 50%. I live in an area with a lot of oldies and there’s loads of Leafs round here on drives that probably fit that demographic. Even I could probably get away with something like the last gen i3 for 95% of my driving but there’s just enough airport runs and decent 2nd/3rd gen EVs in my budget to sway me yet.
@@PaulSteere this Leaf has only six of twelve bars on the battery state of health indicator, so it's down to 50% capacity already, which is probably why the main dealer could not sell it. For it to have gone so badly in only eight years and with so little mileage is concerning. Warranty covers 8 years or 100,000 miles, with replacement battery if it falls below 9 bars (75%) capacity, so should have been covered.
@@allosaurusfragilis7782 If I can use a public charger then anyone can
This Leaf has only six of twelve bars on the battery state of health indicator, so it's down to 50% capacity already, which is probably why the main dealer could not sell it. For it to have gone so badly in only eight years and with so little mileage is concerning. However, the warranty covers 8 years or 100,000 miles, with replacement or repaired battery if it falls below 9 bars (75%) capacity, so should have been covered. Why has it not been resolved?
From the Nissan website:
30 KWH LEAF : If the battery capacity level gauge of your 30 kWh Nissan Electric
Vehicle falls below 9 bars (out of 12 bars) within 100,000 miles or the first 8 years of
the vehicle’s life (whichever comes first), Nissan will repair or replace the damaged
battery components free of charge to bring the capacity up to 9 bars.
I bet they've got out of it due to lack of 'servicing'.
Yes, I'm sure thats the reason the main dealer didn't want it...a heavily degraded battery and OUT OF BATTERY WARRANTY!!. The Leaf doesn't have battery cooling and that leads to faster degradation...plus it's 10 years old. EV batteries lose typically 2% of capacity a year on average, though every car will be unique based on how it was charged (lots of fast charging/not good), how it was driven and how long it's been left either fully charged or almost empty (not good) during it's life
@@jamesknightreading Does not need servicing for battery warranty
This applies to when battery purchased so if originally leased and then bought later in their updated deal, not sure where they stand. It is odd that with just a few months left before 8 years up the battery has not been changed.
If l want to drive an electric car l will go to a fun fair😂
Love the content man, keep it up!😊
Thanks! Will do!
I love the step back when the charger starting doing noises. Just a casual "Gon' explode, innit?" safety step. Love you, man :D
that car just breaks my heart. sure some people might think it's ugly. But the previous owners took the piss and they just mistreated the battery.
30 kwh Nissan leaf is actually a sweet vehicle. 120+ miles range, which is more comfortable than the 80+ on standard one. And 30kwh wasn't even prone to battery degradation. The owners just went out of their way to only charge it from 90 to 100%. Probably a council car
Relatively new to this channel but learnt so much when it comes to buying a used car, yes I’ve watched loads of videos in a couple days 😂 thanks for all the tips
By far my favourite youtube channel to watch, it’s like ASMR the whole way through and it gives me loads of tips for when I eventually and inevitably sell my car out of impulse
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6 bars battery health?
Scary unless that really more than covers your commute.
Outside Tesla, public chargers seem to have been designed by oil companies wanting you back on petrol.
When people say "keep charging them" they generally mean on AC - better for battery health.
in the us nobody is buying ev's because people have realized it's a scam, and nothing to do with the climate (another scam). i live in norway, here ev's are very popular, but i just spoke w a car salesman and he said the comb engine cars are selling like hot bread, especially because of the electricity scam (hi prices when THEY want). who wants to let govt to decide when and where you can drive? even eu is backpedaling w diesel "prohibitions". do your research.
@@TimQwant "nobody is buying EVs" and yet sales went up and Model Y was the best selling car?
Re climate change, facts don't care about your opinion. 2023 was the warmest year in 100,000 years. Something is happening and it's happening more quickly than predicted.
@@grahamleiper1538 Yeah but he read a blog paid for by the oil industry. And they surely know more than thousands of scientists who have dedicated their lives to climate science.
@@grahamleiper1538 do you know how they get those temperatures? i'm from finland. this happens even in finland and our state msm wrote about it: the finnish meteorological institute has moved the temp probes to WARMER places😎there's your climate change! stop watching tv.
@@drunkenhobo8020 heard about corruption? stop watching tv.
Hi Matt. Another great video. Love the channel. Never miss one of your videos. However at the end of the video I always feel a little bit let down. What happened to the car? Did you get a quick sale?
It would be great of you could do a monthly/bi-monthly video covering cars that you covered on previous videos, saying if you sold it and any story behind the sale (if any). This, I feel, would bring the story to a completed end. How about it?
Always a good video Matt
Yessss Matt I ain’t even watched the video yet but I know it won’t disappoint get this man to a million subs right now 🐐 channel
Had a second gen 40kwh leaf on lease for 2 years and absolutely loved it. The e-pedal one foot driving is hands down a game changer and something that other EV’s just don’t do as well. We have an MGEV now and it’s just not as good at one pedal driving.
One issue is that the leaf has air cooled batteries not liquid like pretty much all of them now, so for running and gunning motorway charging the battery can overheat and just reject charges. But with a home charger and local second car, leafs are wicked.
The so-called Rapidgate was massively mis-reported. The 40kwh Leaf was programmed to protect the battery by ramping down charging speed if you Rapid charge three or four times in quick succession. They upgraded the software to be more generous with this safety protocol, but it was down to over cautious software and not entirely down to the battery itself. My 24kwh Nissan Leaf has NO active cooling and it has actually cooled down during charging on some occasions. When I drove to Edinburgh I did eight consecutive Rapid charges on the way up and eight consecutive Rapid charges on the way back with no noticeable effect on charging speed. The temperature did rise quite a bit but it capped off below the point where it would be an issue. I learned during those two days (drove up on a Tuesday, drove back the next morning) that the battery was never going to overheat on any journey I was ever likely to make. And in eight years it never has.
Anyone looking to buy specifically a leaf is going to research it and at the very least understand the battery capactiy bars. At 6 bars of battery health there is no chance that is worth 6k.
Yup. That dealer pulled a quick one selling it to Matt.
Agree 100%
I think that £3,800 from the dealer is the very top of what it's worth retail. I could use it as I do two 30 mile trips a day with time to charge in the middle, but few normal people will want it in that state.
I expect there will be twist in this story with this battery to be sellable for that price,hi could get it possible fixed until 9 bars under warranty, but still this is low spec model, not so easy sell with no heated seats and steering wheel, fingers crossed hi will turn it in happy story for him
@@igor6559 yes if he can get it fixed under warranty then it would be a very cheap price he paid, I think typically nissan buy them back. A key thing to check is if it has had the battery update, if it has not seen a main dealer it might not have this update.
Eny your comment Mat is like a good advice, keep doing it I'm a Latvian livin UK East Midlands and learning from you!👍 All the best
The bulging headlights are like that for a reason, to keep the airflow off the door mirrors to keep wind noise down.
I guess this is a matter of function over form.
My wife and I were in our Nissan dealer service department today. Which strangely has started selling MGs now (cheap Chinese new cars at sub 20k-discuss). My wife has a 2019 Micra N sport. ( I think it’s a great car, looks good, nice sharp exterior design, Interiors good (interior is what actually sold it to me in the showroom back in 2019 almost straight away), has four doors but looks like a 2 door, has a proper handbrake, a proper manual gearbox and drives great with all the sprint you ever need in the suburbs of a city. Folks often ask us what it is. When you say it’s a Micra they say ‘I didn’t know they still made them but I would buy one. Too bad, you can’t anymore). Anyway, there was a new ‘Leaf’ parked beside the service reception in the showroom. We both commented on how boring it looked. Have designers just given up with car styling? It’s electric, therefore, never mind how it looks, you are doing ‘good’. If you want to sell the ‘future’ to us, at least make it desirable. Make it like the LCD TV compared to the CRT TV. Make it better in all ways to us ordinary car owners so that we desire one. ‘Saving the planet’ (debatable) is good, but not enough. Not holding my breath, anytime soon🙂
@richardhorry unoffensive deisgns are easier to sell to committees, dealers, and buyers.
However I agree the number of automakers who go for a corporate look like new Nissans,Mercedes, VW, Audi, Volvo is such a bore. No passion. Typically not ugly but just so uninspiring.
If they would have given leaf owners the option to darken the headlights, that would improve the looks IMO.
Nahhh. Late 90s/early 2000s, manufacturers figured out how to make headlights out of plastic instead of glass - hence why everything up until this era of car had ridiculous bug-eyed huge headlights. Now we have tiny slit-eyed headlights. As small as possible, because the style changed. We're still dealing though with oversized grills.
I think it’s been owned by council or something like that , and they have just left it plugged in when not in use . The low mileage is representative of little use since new so it’s been left at a high state of charge for those 8 odd years which is really bad for the battery.
Imagine how ridiculous you would think it was if you were told not to keep the tank of a petrol or diesel full because it would be f**ked in 35000 miles. If we are going to transition to a cleaner technology to replace ICE, we really do need one that is not seriously flawed like EVs are.
Terrible
Keeping a battery at 100% constantly is something that engineers should have made idiot proof
unbelievable that it is not capable of stopping the charging - I'm sure my sister's Leaf does that.
@@toyotaprius79 yeah , maybe it should run the HVAC automatically after 48 hours to bring the SOC down to 80% .
Turning into Hubnut, you'll be wearing sandals and socks next 😂
Haha I’ll leave the socks and sandals to Ian 🙃
Years ago hubnut bought an old Jag or Daimler as he drove off I never laughed so much in my life, just watching him trying to connect the seatbelt
@@HighPeakAutos 14:45
RFID means ‘contactless’ (practically speaking).
It was a 50kW charger and the battery was capacity was probably less than 20kW and there was still some charge in it.
It must have been fully charged within an hour, I think.
If you leave it overnight, the slower charging option might be cheaper but that’s just my guess.
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John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Jesus
Grateful for the EV charging tutorial, Matt 👍
You're very right about the thinking of the buyer.
I love my 2019 Leaf. Its so nice to drive. Just on the charging part, a 30kw battery would be fully charged in less than 45 minutes on a 50kw DC charger, no need to leave it all night. I haven’t got a charging point at home yet so use the 3 pin domestic supply and it easily charges fully overnight.
your home charger would be phase 1 2.4kw 10amp or 3kw 15 amp, phase 2 is 7kw 32 amp
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Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today
Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven
There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today
Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell
Come to Jesus Christ today
Jesus Christ is only way to heaven
Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void
Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today
Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today
Romans 6.23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Jesus
If this still has a bit of the 8 year warranty left, get to Nissan ASAP - with 6/12 battery bars left, this could be a candidate for a replacement battery under warranty.
I’ll call tomorrow
Fully charged and no charge. Win win chaps
The warranty guarantees minimum 9 bars of battery in that period - the work they will do to refurb the battery will get it back up to 9 bars rather than a replacement battery
What a faf lol ill stick with my d5 xc70 thanks 😅
@@greg55678still better than nothing. 9 bar car is definitely easier to sell
I had exactly that "unit stocking" thing with my recent Octavia purchase. Dealer explained it. Good to go.
Hello matt great video as usual.
I watched your video about best automatic cars under 5000 £.
Could you make another video for a budget less than 10000 £ and discussing both petrol and diesel options ?
I have a 2016 one handed down from my dad's taxi company with still 9 bars and 90k miles. We have a charger at home. It's a great commuter car, nothing more. Great Bose Soundsystem, heated seats and a relaxed commute thanks to cruisecontrol and no engine noise. Hopefully we can get the battery replaced under warranty soon.
My 24kwh Leaf did a 890 round trip to Edinburgh in 2017. After 94,000 miles it still has 10 bars and could still do the same trip. I can still drive ANYWHERE in the UK with it. I've been to Brighton, Harrogate, Leeds, Kings Lynn, Lincolnshire, Sheffield, etc., etc. The most practical and capable car I've ever driven.
@@trevorberridge6079 I'm 100% sure, that I rather do those trips in my petrol car, I respect myself too much, to waste any time to charge a car. It's 3 minutes to fill my tank with petrol and I can easily do 500 miles+. So yeah, enjoy wasting time, for waiting for your car to charge. 😂
@@shadowww133 I have NEVER encountered anyone who boasts that their car can do 500+ miles on a tank of petrol that has actually driven 500 miles without a break. My previous Fiesta could do 450-500 miles on a tank and I never drove it further than 130 miles in one stretch.. Most modern EVs can do that distance and a lot more. You can get a used Zoe that's less than £5k and still does 200+ miles on a single charge. In practice a journey of 500 miles would be no different because you'd be making stops anyway. I once hired a Kia e-Niro with 300 miles of range and drove 150+ miles to Nottingham. I didn't need to charge, but I still stopped three times on route. I could have done the journey with the same number of stops in a car with only 90 miles of range and taken the same amount of time. No-one NEEDS 500 miles of range. Certainly not in the UK where nowhere is a 1000 miles from anywhere else and 500 miles takes an average of 11 hours of continuous driving to complete. Impractical, dangerous and no-one ever does it except in an experiment or challenge.
@@trevorberridge6079 you're delusional, nothing gonna help you🤣🤣🤣 very often I'm doing trips for 1000/2000 miles, and I'm stopping every 300/400 hundred miles, mainly to put fuel in my car, for a toilet, and maybe, to buy a coffee. And honestly, stopping every 100 miles for 40minutes, it's good for people who have extremely boring life, only those who don't value their time🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I wouldn't take electric garbage for free. I love sound of my car, and I can feel that it have a soul, electric cars are just soulless. And it's not a new tech, it's actually very old technology, and it never worked. And, sitting all day, on thousands of batteries 🔋 don't sound very healthy. It's a garbage technology, basically big RC car, nothing more.
Not without stopping untold tines you can't @trevorberridge6079
Thanks. Chademo and range are the killers for this car, but it will suit many buyers as a town/shopping car , or short commute ,with home charging.
Yes it is ugly, but who cares for nipping down to the supermarket or parking all day at work.
Daily uploads? Nice!!
October last year in NZ I also bought a 2016 Nissan Leaf, but a 24kWh one. It had 109k on the clock, 9 bar battery, full charge range of 120km - love it.
Got rid of mine 6 years ago, 60 mile range was such a pain in the rear. The 12 volt normal car battery died after 2.5 years of ownership. Other than that I liked it but I haven’t had an electric car since and it would take a change in the tech for me to come back
Shame the range isn't a little better - I've considered getting one of the older ones as an extra runabout for occasional use but even then there is too little margin for error with the range on them with our use (living in a rural area a good few miles from the nearest proper town).
The tech has moved on considerably, in other brands like Tesla, VW and Peugeot / Citroen / Vauxhall.
@@connclissmann6514will be interesting to see how they fare in 10+ years..
I would say, personally, 48 weeks out of the year I only do about 60 miles and there are plenty of chargers within walking distance...obviously still wouldn't be a compelling choice given the big price premium, and the battery is going to eventually give up regardless of how well it's looked after.
The tech has changed quite a lot. Still, this I'm sure will make someone a decent run around.
My wife's cousin just sticks to roads close to her house, never goes on motorways, only has an automatic licence and has a driveway at her house. This would be her ideal car.
It would. She is the perfect EV customer...
Until she has the slightest of prangs and then the insurance will write it off. Or it catches fire due to overcharging/battery issues.
Never heard of a Leaf catching fire, and my insurance is cheaper than my wife's Zafira, which had a recall because the AC was prone to catching fire. But then the Mail Online or The Sun don't tend to run stories about ICE cars catching fire because it doesn't pay as well ;)
@@decimal1815 I don't read newspapers as they're nothing more than comics for adults. I base my research upon REAL data.
But if you're happy with your overpriced piece of EV crap, then more power to you.
What's this REAL data then@@bobjames6622, care to enlighten the rest of us?
Hi Matt, another great video.
Does the Amber warning for the mileage stay on after the next mot ?
Yes it does
Love your videos, just hope your channel doesn’t change over to electric cars 😉
I remember travelling in my friends leaf when my car was in for a service. He accelerated from the carpark onto the main road and I'd felt nothing like it and I've driven an Aston V8 vantage! That leaf is really quick 0 to 30
I have had Porsches at the lights in mine. Then they murder us past 30, but the first few seconds are mad. Just turn off ECO mode for this.
I bought an MG EV (not LR version) a couple of years ago. Quoted mileage was 200, actual mileage with good weather was about 180. The horror story was in cold weather, heater on and lots of motorway driving it was 135 range. A 230 mile trip to London to see FIL needed a stop halfway and then a stop near London to recharge to 80% (so 100 miles range @80%). After 2 years had enough, traded in for a Hyundai Kona, quoted mileage was 300, nice weather 275 actual and very cold/motorway around 220. 220 miles I can live with, even trips to London only really need 1 good stop. Added bonus is we have solar panels and a 7kW house charger so half the year our fuel cost is tiny, the other 6 months its about £16 (27p per kW) for 220 - 250) miles range from house charger - I wouldn't want to be charging all the time on public chargers.............
I’m on the verge of moving from diesel to a 64kwh Kona. I have a 160 mile commute - would you say it will do that even in freezing weather with lights, wiper and heater?
Stick to diesel, 500 miles for 5 minutes refueling time. It's a no brainer. Unless you like watching you life ebb away waiting for your battery to charge.
@@tonygarlingewarren7456 thanks. Free charging at work means I don’t need to do that.
Even if you have solar panels, any electricity you use from them to charge an EV is not "free" - it costs you whatever your electricity supplier would have paid you to export to the grid (in our case 15p per kWh). For most EV owners with solar panels it's actually cheaper to be on an off-peak overnight grid charging tariff (typically 5-8p per kWh) and to export what you generate during the day.
@@TheRoybeasley it’s free at work
Great video. There are companies out there rebuilding leaf battery packs or installing bigger ones. Those early ones and little thermal management so they haven’t lasted as well. It’ll suit someone though. At least Nissan were honest and the battery health is there on the dash for everyone to see
It's perfect for some. Impractical for others. I've a model 3 travel big miles and have zero issues with range and reliability.
Hi Matt, another great video, your electric car videos make me realise that I am never getting one. I’ll keep my CH-R Hybrid till it falls to bits😂. Thank you for taking the time to upload another video . Ged
You’ve got a great car in a CHR Toyota self charging masterpiece 👌
Hybrids! Exactly 🤷♂️
I had a ch-r as a rental car a while ago, couldn't understand why would people buy it 😄 rear visibility is shocking
I hope your Toyota CHR does better for you than my in-laws RAV 4. It's a 16 reg, which they've had from new, and they cover around 3 to 4000 miles a year in it. It has less than 25k miles on it. It recently failed it's MOT, needing £1500+ worth of work to get a pass. Kept garaged, in a rural village, nowhere near the sea....
Your going to own that CH-R for a long time, lol
Need to check the battery warranty. Could be inline for a battery replacement. Battery firmware update will release more range if it has not been done.
Ideal as a second car and a shopping trolley/runaround.
Would be good to see a follow up for recent cars to let us know if they sold! I think you did this once before?
I'm thinking of a Zoe for a runaround as I have solar and don't have a need for long trips as I take the train to work.
Mind you I have an a5 sportback at the moment and I love it so might find it difficult to part when the lease runs out 😂
You will never get 4 GoodYears out of a Leaf.
There are many Leafs still on the road from 2011
The taxi driver on my local rank, who uses a Leaf has. His has now covered 180k miles. My Kia eNiro is now just over 3 years old, with the battery still on 96% state of health. If I kept it, I wouldn't expect to get a battery refurbishment done until the car was around 12 years old.
Don’t worry Roy, I saw what you did there 👍😂
Yes they are parked permanently @@Ravenstorm1999
Badum tish... Roy's here all week.
Should have checked the batteries SOH before buying. Leafs were notorious for battery degradation.
But on the plus side there's a big battery health gauge that shows up on the dashboard pics in the adverts. Saves a lot of bother.
As a Leaf owner I can attest to battery degradation not being nearly as bad as people seem to believe. Just ask yourselves, would Nissan warranty the battery for 100k miles and 8 years if the battery were likely to conk out anywhere close to that? It would mean they have to replace the battery for free in perpetuity. And just so you know, 100k miles and 8 years is a standard warranty for most EVs. So the Leaf isn't regarded as a particular high risk for battery degradation compared to other EVs. They are generally speaking very hardy cars.
@@trevorberridge6079 but is degradation the same as ‘conking out’? The old leafs seemed to lose capacity to charge to 100% more quickly than other ev’s.
@@andytunnicliffe7223 Correct. Because active thermal control is better for the battery and the early Leaf models don't have it. But in reality the car still does well over 100k miles before it drops below 70% capacity. If you treat it from day one with battery health in mind it degrades much slower. I actually took my battery from 79% back up to 92% by taking care of it better after the first year. But, if you continue with bad habits it will deteriorate faster. Treat it well and it should last 12 good years and the battery won't have actually conked out even then.
"Welcome baaack". "Well, we're here". Love it! Hope you got your price for it. Wonder why the main dealer couldn't have done what you did. Asking too much maybe?
Nice video.... i learnt loads reading the comments section too.... those charging points are scary
Plug in , Tap card, couldn't be simpler
@zenbudhism except you're meant to tap the card first ... 🙄
I've walked past them at Motorway services and IKEA!! Full of angry electric buzzing. Caged kilo Watts.
@johnland7318 the angry ones are the worst.... stay away from them for the love of God stay away from them
Had one of these when they were new for a week as a demo. 99 miles range and 99 mph max (governed). Went fast. Boss took it for a burn at end of loan.
Full charge, ragged it for 5 miles on bypass, Took a third of the range in 5 minutes.
I call bullshit. So you used 8kWh in 5 miles. When generally these cars consume 1kWh per 3-4 miles.
Started out with 99 miles, came back with 67. Foot to the boards for 5 miles between junctions 62 and 60 on the A14 and back. I saw it myself, I was waiting for him. So keep your bullshit - I know, I was there. @@deansh8506
Autotrader did a flat out range test on a 10 year old LEAF which had just 8 out of 12 battery bars showing (about 70% of its new capacity), and managed 21.6 miles.
The top speed on these is limited to 88mph (despite the overly optimistic speedo reading 98) so it would have taken 15 minutes to drain completely.
The temperature was below freezing for the test though.
A brand new one would have done around 30 miles in 21 minutes under the same conditions - so in theory you could lose a third of its range, 10 miles, in 7 minutes. If it was -3C.
th-cam.com/video/wz84GFGS3O4/w-d-xo.html
We were given this brand new Leaf to evaluate for our job - courier doing stop start in a 10 hour day covering on average 78 miles. We drove like we stole it, my colleague was a petrol head and we needed to know if it was up to the task. 13 hour recharge from a 13 amp socket. Max indicated range 99 miles. Speedo, accurate or not indicated 99 mph flat out, and TBH it was not for off. The figures I quoted above were accurate, on a fully charged battery. This was the third electric vehicle we evaluated, and at the time, none of them were up to the job. After I retired, an EV was supplied which had a range of 220 miles. I can't remember what it was.
EVs have their place, and I have used, driven or flown engines of 2 and 4 stroke, petrol, diesel, LPG, Avgas, Steam/Coal and electric from mopeds to HGV, railway locos and aircraft. Nothing would make me have an EV for my own use, it's not practical out in the sticks for me.
@@foxstrangler So you deliberately ruined the test to ensure it didn't work? I'll go and evaluate a petrol car by driving everywhere in first gear and only filling up the tank using a 500 ml plastic bottle. Turns out they're rubbish!
Loved our Leaf Tekna, bought it in 2014 brand new and ran it for 3 years, swapped to a Renault Zoe with a 160 mile range what a revaluation !. Of course back then all the Ecotricity 50Kw chargers were free to use, we went everywhere in the UK gratis !
I wouldn't mind the whole EV thing if that's how it was. Cheap basic small city cars for the short hops. I'd have no issues with that.
Whats being pushed though, is massive, heavy ridiculously expensive ones. Defeats the whole point as far as I'm concerned
@allosaurusfragilis7782 I'm but sure you know what the point is. Many ev's are now the same price of petrol and diesel cars brand new and cheaper to run
I had a Leaf and put 60k miles on it. Electric was cheap then and the car pretty much paid for itself. On the list of cars I should have kept.
@@allosaurusfragilis7782, yep and they all have a host of extras like self closing doors, self opening and closing hatches, all adds to the weight/range penalty.
Matt, I' impressed by your self control when using that charging point. I'd have been cursing out loud and turning the air blue!
I could see this working in Bermuda ( other islands are available) , Ironically the island being 24 miles long it matches the new commuting distance for Matt 😁
Nissan dipped a toe in EV world early on , as a go to the shops or small commute it works , to me its like a home appliance like a Kettle. Filled up switch on and use regularly for a drink but dont expect it to fill a bath 😂
I’m going for the holy trinity of a buff, plate replacement and a ‘well we’re here’ come on Matt
Love the design of the first-gen Leaf. Looks like a happy little frog on the roads.
I always thought the design was terrible, but after a holiday in Japan it all makes sense. The exterior is very japanese and fits in perfectly. The interior has a bit of a Gundam vibe. I get it now and enjoy its Japaneseness, and that it sings to you when you get in 😊. It complements a longer range EV for big trips, but still does most of our driving.
Hi Matt interesting video not good on mileage but a good exercise on EV market . Onward and upwards you will have to turn over another leaf
Always entertaining Matt 👌this really is a fugly weird cheaply built Nissan SUV thing. Hope you can shift that off your forecourt quickly?.
I had a 2015 Renault ZOE and sold it last year so just over 8 years old and the battery was at 95% SOH. Not bad going i guess, range was still good. Me and the wife have 2 Megane E-Tech Ev's. I got a Launch edition and she bought a Techno, we bought them because she gets free charging at her work and i only go around 15 - 20 miles a day on average. I have a home charger and cheap rates overnight. I prefer EV to ICE but not because i am a green so and so ( couldn't give a toss about climate and all that ) but because they drive fine and are quiet and smooth. I still have my 2011 Citroen C5 X7 HDI auto for old times sake and i am very attached to it. I sold my other 4 cars to make room in the drive, gutted but hey ho.
So you don't give a toss about whether you are killing your yet to be born grandchildren do you? Right decision, totally wrong reason.
Why not tesla ?French cars are problematic
Drove one of these years ago, and had a blast. But I’m still a petrolhead.
They're surprisingly quick off the mark.....
@@Brian-om2hh Yes they are!
Great video HPA, great little city car,I'm with you Matt I would have charge anxiety 🤣,I'm bad enough in a petrol car, great work Matt, hopefully a nice profit 👍👌😀
RFID is a protocol for short range wireless data transfer, such as keychain or public transport card.
In our case it's probably EV charger vendor's keychain/token thing which is linked to your account.
When you started it I was trying to see how many bars were showing on the battery.That indicates the battery state of health.It seemed down a few bars and 67 miles out of a 30 kw battery isn't that brilliant.The main thing on Leafs is battery state of health.
He showed us the battery report and that explained everything!!
No thermal management of the Leafs battery is the reason for the degradation. Ugh I feel sick knowing that.
It's maybe the reason for some of the degradation. It's 10 years old, so naturally it will have lost a fair bit anyway
The original Japan made models had a chemistry that soon became synonymous with degradation. Later models improved this but even still with no thermal management the battery can suffer if treated to high temperatures and high states of charge
@@musclerent a 2016 car is not, by any stretch of imagination, 10 years old...
yeah but there ar companies doing their custom thermal system management for leaf plus this youtuber can buy this with larger battery pack to get around 420km of range installing 62kwh battery.
Nice one Matt, looks like your turning over a new leaf 🤭.
good luck matt
It was £3800 for a reason.The battery is under warranty for 8 years or 100000 miles I believe, so it might just still be under warranty or just expired.You need to take it to an EV specialist to see what is wrong with the offending cells in the battery.IMHO
Exactly. It needs a battery pack refurb....
What this guy said
This has clearly just been a fleet car that's been left plugged in and that's what's buggered the battery.
The car is 10 years old, so no guarantee left, plus unless there's a full service history that warranty might have ended many years ago
its over 8 yr lol
@@mightywatcher5894First registration was March 2016 according to DVLA.
I think it will be obvious to most EV owners that your inexperience of EV's is likely to get you burnt. Unless you can claim on the battery warranty you have a bit of a lemon here. The key thing to note, as many already have, is that this LEAF has poor battery health with only 6 of the original 12 battery status bars left. I would not have considered this even for the £3,800 you originally paid. Don't get fooled by "low" mileage as this is less relevant to an EV its more about the care previous owners have taken with the charging. For instance leaving a car on a public rapid charger overnight is not only inconsiderate but also will not do the battery health any favours. There are of course inexperienced customers out there who might just think it a cheap way into an EV and pay your price but if you find then you are one lucky SOB :-)
Leaving a car on a public rapid charger will not harm it. Charging stops when the desired level has been reached. Pf course it is inconsiderate but the only damage that is likely is to your wallet for the overstay charge.
Good insight into used evs
It actually isn't, because the Leaf is the *worst* example of an EV from 9 years ago. It has poor - almost non existent battery management - it has no heat-pump, and poor battery degradation. Something like a 2 year old Hyundai Kona would literally blow this Leaf out of the water, as it would have 5 times the range, way more performance, be vastly superior in it's efficiency, and would be capable of using chargers capable of charging in around a 5th of the time this old Leaf could. There would be no comparison.
Hi Matt
Have you ever bought a new car and not thought
It needs a good clean..!
Respect 👍
How many " leaf" references can Matt fit into a 22-minute video? 👍😁👍
Not forgetting the one on the windscreen under the wipers 😊
Ah, yes the Mk 1 Leaf, with it's Miss Marple bodywork. These can be bought quite cheaply now, and the plus part is that the Leaf is pretty basic (in EV terms) and is reasonably inexpensive to get the battery pack refurbished. One TH-cam video I saw of a Leaf battery refurb - carried out by a UK based EV specialist - cost £500, and took just 4 hours. If cheap commuting is what you're after, one of these could do the trick... The battery health can be checked via the diagnostic socket, using an OBD.... Finding a Chademo connector for charging might be a struggle now Matt, as they're slowly becoming outdated.....and it could be why the dealer wanted to move this on. This might have a 30kw battery Matt... An RFID card is used instead of an app, if you don't have a smartphone Matt. You can get an RFID card from most charge network providers for free.... Most newer chargers have a contactless payment facility, to take a debit or credit card payment, in which case no app or RFID card is needed. There's one of these on my local taxi rank, with 180k miles on it..... The newer, Sunderland built Leafs are generally held up to be better built than the older Japanese built ones. The Jap ones have very light beige coloured seat upholstery...... The Leaf you have is a British, Sunderland built one....
If the battery can be refurbed for less than a grand then fine...that's a decent vehicle for all those short hops. I find that hard to believe though....I'll try and look into that claim
@@allosaurusfragilis7782 The one Cleveleys did, cost £500. The video of the refurb is here on TH-cam....
@@Brian-om2hhfair enough , that's really good
I like your grey jumper.
(The first one you wore)
Twelve bars is great. You are correct about range challenges. We have an old leaf, it is a brilliant runabout. But it doesn't go far.
It’s only got 6 capacity bars ! What the hell happened to it with only 35k on the clock ! .i sold mine last years with 8 capacity bars and it had covered 192,000 miles . They are quite nippy actually .
It's about the length of time left idle. I'm in deep with the EV (Lithium) industry and use the analogy of a sponge for the condition of the battery. A slow drip will be absorbed by the sponge, but if the taps turned full on, plenty of water will bounce off never to be absorbed, then imagine a sponge sitting outside in the weather over the weeks... (dries out and cracks appear etc.
Best way to maintain an EV is to slow charge to 85% (ish) never stretching its ability to absorb and if parked over time only have 50 or less % to ensure longigevity
without any evidence to support this, I would guess the car has been left plugged in charging all the time (or the SoC sitting close to 100% for extended periods of time).
It's OK - he got nissan to reset the SOH meter. Should be good for a couple of weeks at least!
Judging from the history it's been for sale for a few months for around the £6,999 mark. They couldn't shift it and then punted it on to you. Seems crazy to me that they sell it to you so much cheaper but that must be just how it is in the trade.
That’s how the big main dealers work. Most have a 90 day policy which I don’t understand
I bet they had no idea the battery was still under warranty either. I have spoken to Stealerships where they did not even realise they were selling cars with battery rental. Even when I pointed it out to them - I think they thought I was making it up. My neighbour chopped in a Renault EV van [rented battery] and the dealer way overpaid him because they had no idea that the battery was rented (like Zoes).
I’m sat watching and chuckle at your public EV charging experience (my reality).
I agree the the spec on the Nissan Leaf is one of the many reasons I chose the i3, you can not compare the build quality and thankfully my i3 was optioned to possibly to the max by the original owner (kerching,, thank you). No plastic steering wheel 😜.
Did I spy a Cartier ring? Kerbling 😝
Great job😀
The plural for lexus is lexi, very popular in the Norfolk area😅
No it's not. The plural is Lexuses because the name has nothing to do with Latin but is an invention by Toyota.
This Leaf has only six of twelve bars on the battery state of health indicator, so it's down to 50% capacity already, looks like you may have been sold a lemon? I hope not.
The old adage in the car trade , first profit is best profit . I agree with you , don't be too greedy 👍
I’ve had a 60 kWh Leaf for 2 years. Bloody love it. E pedal is marvellous. I’ve owned BMWs, Mercs and Range Rovers and believe me this little car is a joy.
Totally, just going to buy my second one after nearly 7 years of a 2017 tekna model. Fab city car, just love them.
i own a 2015 24kwh leaf its done 84000 miles still got 11 bars four puntures 3 headlight bulbs and a suspension bar never ever been serviced original brake pads 84 miles range in the summer .nice silent car very smooth .passed all of its mots except one due to speed humps knackering the lower suspension rubber
The dealer couldn't sell it because the battery is shot. You have bought a lemon because you haven't done the most basic of thing and checked the battery health which is stareing you in the face. The battery health is approx 40% so you will be lucky to get 20-30 miles.
I suspect the car has been left uncharged for a long period of time at 0% and it has ruined the battery.
40% on a 30kwh Leaf is good for up to 53 miles. If you'd done the most basic maths you'd know that.
@@trevorberridge6079 if you do the most basic of maths you would realise that a 30kWh has an actual usable battery range of 28kWh when brand new. That being 360 GIDS's at 80Wh per GID.
40% of 28kWh is 11.2kWh.
11.2kWh x 3.25 miles/kWh (average efficiency for a LEAF) = 36 miles.
But who in their right mind is going to drive the LEAF down to 0% as the range is very unpredictable at the lower end of the battery scale. So in the real world 30 miles range at best.
Just bought one for the missus and I kinda love it 🤷🏻♂️
Shall we look under the bonnet?
WOW! A V8!! Aye right!!
I laughed to myself at that one Matt!(easily pleased)
👍😊❤️
Yes Matt. You've proved, in a couple of videos, that getting an EV with a small battery and relying on public chargers is a fool's errand. That's why, at the moment, anyone with sense is getting EVs with 300+ range and has a home charger.
Or buying a diesel....re Harry metcalfe
The average UK daily commute is 20.8 miles, and the average UK motorway trip is 70 to 80 miles. You don't need 300 miles range 90% of the time.
When you say:"we're not ready for it yet" that basically means: you're not ready for it?
We have a 2 gen leaf at work. Lovely car quick quiet and has a range of about 250 mile on a good day. I wouldn't have one as my main car but as a second car it would be fine
the 30kw leaf suffers with BCM issues that effects the battery health, if its not had the update which i suspect with that health, nissan will carry out the BCM update foc which will restore a fair bit of battery health to it. the leaf is a great car for a 1st time EV buyer, they drive superb. thats the Acenta spec, and yep they are quick. just noticed on your web sale too it has the 6kw charger fitted, so will charge the battery a lot quicker this one, deffo get it into nissan for the update.
Its a Sally Gunnel. Ugly but a good runner. I'm on my second Leaf and absolutely love to driving it.
I tested a new one once
Rolled it
Yep, I turned over a new leaf 🌿
I was having a great day until I saw this comment 😂
Tim vine eat your heart out!
Leafs are a great buy for a runaround car, to and from work locally etc as you say. Lots around, but some are nearing end of life battery wise! Good video Matt, had to admit you liked it! 👍😂
Try a Smart ForTwo ED. 70 mile range and drives like a go- kart. Perfect for the peak district. Nothing like the petrol version!
As these use the haldex 4wd system, do you still need to replace all 4 tyres at the same time and endure they all have the same tread pattern and tread depth as the diff's are made of chocolate?
I know from bitter experience that this was the case with earlier models ( 1999 V70 AWD ).
Someone in Sweden put the Leaf drivetrain in a 1980’s Saab 900. Ended up being faster than the Turbo.
But why would anyone buy a car with the range of a rounding error? Even when brand new and on the big battery, an old Leaf has a worse range than my diesel car when the fuel gauge is on red.
Its a car that screams, i believe the government knows best and would never be deceitful.
Take it to Cleevely EV motors and get the battery cell modules tested. Could be a cheap fix if it’s just one module that’s low and can be replaced and the full battery re-ballanced.
I really enjoyed this video about another Nissan. I think you should try and get a Nissan Note because it is a very popular car. Nissan Almera Tino because it’s a forgotten car and I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on it. 😊
A bit pointless now, as the Note went out of production some time ago....
What a nightmare!!! I couldn't be bothered!
Indeed, Matt has more patience than me. I would have given that charger a proper shoeing.
Thank you for reminding me yet again never to buy ev crap
If you think all newer EV's are still the same as this car, then there's nothing much that can be done.....
@@Brian-om2hh The need to charge at a public charging station (if you can't charge at home) hasn't changed though has it? For me that's the major stumbling block with an EV. I don't want to hang around a charging station waiting for the thing to charge.
What happens if he reviews a broken 10 year old gasoline car? I guess those are "never again" too, right? Just trying to follow the logic.
@@jasonpollock9259no, a 10 yo petrol car will still do roughly the same mpg as when it was new, and filling up takes 5 mins max. 😉
@@arturseversons3444 Until you realise it drinks a litre of oil per fuel tank, the clutch is shot and first gear doesn't engage when it's cold.
I work for Nissan as a tech, they’re really common for handbrake cables seizing up might explain the handbrake travel also if it’s high pitch whine when moving back.
When I’m in the market for buying my next car, I’d love to be in a position to buy from you. Proper, genuine seller who wants happy customers! Only problem is I live nearly 300 miles from Stockport. 😆😫
67 miles fully charged, wow! 😲 Absolute waste of time!
Most people in UK do 20 miles a day average.
@@gypsyemperor7535 AVERAGE ! If one day I do 90 miles and another 10 miles, on average that's 50 miles a day, does that mean it suits my needs ? Not by a long shot
@@andreichis-toie14 Then this prob isn't the best car for you 😂 leaded petrol sure took it's toll on the boomers
What should you do???
Put it in the bin......
I live less than a mile from my place of work, and the only thing that stresses a EV would be the ramps getting out of the garages at either side so this would do me a treat. I know of at least a dozen other people in a similar condition - so it does fit into many people's life style. Though I do enjoy the walk....
why would you even consider not walking if it’s under a mile away?
I got one of these as a grocery getter and it’s got a swapped battery from a 2022 leaf with the motor/inverter from a 2022 leaf in it as well, I can spin the front wheels if I stomp it at 60km/h and gets about 400km to a charge if I drive like a grandma