How’s our old Nissan Leaf doing? Let's talk battery health, running costs, failed washer pump & more
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- A lot of people might tell you a 7-year-old electric car battery should be thrown into landfill so let’s see just how usable the car still is.
I talk to an actual battery expert to get some facts, a minor service from Cleevely EV, I fix a washer pump, and make replacing a headlight bulb seem more complex than it probably is. Also, let’s talk running costs!
A packed episode on a car I really don’t talk about enough.
Special guest stars: Electrochemist, Dr. Euan McTurk and James Coates from Cleevely EV
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
01:28 - CarWings
02:57 - Battery health
03:49 - Special guest star: Dr. Euan McTurk, Electrochemist
07:38 - Battery health tips and an electrochemistry lesson
11:05 - LFP batteries
13:42 - And what about cobalt?
14:32 - Trying to get the bar back
15:22 - Running costs
16:27 - Minor service
17:01 - Washer pump
21:09 - Headlight replacement
23:57 - Summary - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Great to see the old leaf ! Love the cob web in shot under the bonnet , says such a lot !
Well summed up Andrew , these are great 2nd cars and ideal 'starter' EV for those who are nervous about switching away from fossil fueled vehicles.
Nissan Leaf should conquer the world and solve world wars and fix political corruption...ok maybe that is too much...honestly I own a Leag and it's my best car and I have given it a nickname and give it a blanket so it remains warm at night.
I have a 2011 Nissan Leaf… and it has been brilliant… never once a failure 12 years later… just tires… that's it… But I live in a hot area… so the battery has degraded to about 70%… so range is limited… fine for around town… I can do a full days worth of errands… but not so good anymore for longer trips… very comfortable car.. good passenger space, handles and drives nice.. OK boot… it has been my most trouble free, least expensive car to date… I look forward to many more years with it…
Wonderful to hear!
Wow, Dr Euan McTurk really gives the right information and explains it so well. Another great video Andrew and great that you are showing second hand EV's are still very viable.
Thanks so much. Euan is brilliant!
I have a 2013 Leaf with a 24 kWh battery. I bought it used for $6000 US and it has been the perfect commute car. With 88,000 miles on the odometer, it still has eleven bars! It costs me about $1.25 in electricity to travel the 26 miles for my trip to work and back. I can't begin to calculate the savings over having an ICE car - especially with fuel prices now.
That's amazing! Great to hear. Thank you!
Wow! I have an 2013 too 81,000 miles and now 5 bars :/ but gets over 110 Fahrenheit :( here
Unfortunately the bubble has burst on EVs, unless you charge at home of course but the point is to use it outside not calculate getting home! They want to triple the electric charging points. So for eg If you have a Toyota Prius for 120 miles of driving will cost £20 of petrol. To charge an equivalent EV it will now cost £34 as the repair and upgrades of charging stations is too costly used by too few EVs. So prices have to go up to put money back into the system, plus of course electricity is now the most expensive power that we use and is to create
@@stumpusMaximus If repair and upgrades are too expensive, government can step in to help. We HAVE to make a transition from a carbon-based economy to a clean-energy economy. We don't have a choice in the matter unless we want vast areas of the Earth to be uninhabitable.
It's the perfect car for that.
It's good to watch somebody wrestling with awkward to get at car parts whilst I drink tea with biscuits !! Thanks Andrew...
The slowness of Leaf is due to the low baud rate on its internal communications. It's a very old protocol which was cheap (or free, not sure here) to license, and more (EOBD) was not needed.
License for EOBD was USD5 per vehicle I think at some stage. So $5 x 500 000 is 2.5 million saved.
There was also a study that showed that the life of a battery can be extended by up to 30% by charging it to 100% and then discharging it at a high rate to 90% immediately after. (Can't find it right now)
Very interesting video, thank you.
great vid! Took your advice 2 years before seeing it! We’ve a Mini Merc (A160) for visiting family and weekends away but everyday running around even in rural Lincolnshire) it’s the Nissan leaf (with rear camera) from 2013. Linking your stuff with a young lady showing how to power my TV some lights and a fridge from my Leaf with a 12v to Mains inverter, wow everyday’s a school day. Even for a 75yo retd. Uni lecturer! And the bloke in the middle going in great depth about battery, well nextime insomnia hits I’ll know where to go!
Thanks very much for the time and effort yiu put in.if your missus’ is that good looking I may skip a game of golf to watch the next one! Cheers
Excellent content (as usual)! My wife (who is bored to tears by and hates my EV and Solar/battery viewing) now watches your content whenever Flaviana is present! She has even taking to attempts at vetoing purchases by affecting a (poor) Flaviana impersonation and stating ‘I like it, but I like it a it £30 much and not a £40 much’ 🤣
At work we've used Leafs from the early 2010's and, as a short journey car, it was perfect. When I say short, a return journey of around 60 miles is doable, after than it was all dependant on type of day. We then got Leaf2s, bit night and day to be honest and such an improvement and have done many 1000's of miles in them.
So, why do I share this? For anyone looking for a 2nd hand Leaf EV, original Leaf for a shop runner, Leaf 2 for something a little more as a daily driver. :)
Have bookmarked this video for reference for when I have to do maintenance on the Leaf in the future.
Perfect timing Andrew as we're about to buy our first ev - a 2nd hand Leaf - and this has removed the last lingering doubts. Been following all your adventures with all your other evs for a while now. Love your content and of course, more Flaviana please. She's priceless 😀
Thank you! That's great to hear. You'll love the Leaf - it's such a wonderful car. The problem is that it beats many of the new cars I try!
@@MrEV hopefully you'll get your hands on a BYD Atto 3 one day. We're in New Zealand and they're available here. We were considering getting one but thought we'd go with the Leaf first as a cheaper entry point to ev driving. Would love to see your review of them one day.
Watch the battery degredation and weep over time and use cycles. I am sure like me you will regret your decision after it ages a few years like mine.
I have been driving our leaf since 2010. It is 2011 first generation. Just lost a bar a week ago. Felt really sad. It is 179,000km. There were no major issues at all last 12 years. Normal wear and tear, breaks, tires, wipers, etc. Great car and sad to see Nissan is not able to keep the Leaf in future production.
Nice video, Andrew. I had one of these Leaf 24, I bought it used for 7.000€ and I sold it one year later for 8.500€. Now, here in Spain, you can't find one for less than 12.000€. As much as petrol prices rise, as much these cars rise. It is totally recommendable as a second car or for people who use it for their commute.
I have very good memories of this "Frog." 😄
Great update, and well done for even attempting all those repairs whilst trying to film at the same time. Hopefully this means we can look forward to a feature-length episode 'Flaviana holds forth about the Leaf'.
Very helpful. Thank you!
Great to see James from James and Kate channel in his full time job, does great EV videos as well.
Yes, theirs is another of my favourite channels. I especially love all of James's MG5 videos too - flying the flag for cheap, reliable EVs!
In Cornwall there was a Leaf Taxi that did over 100k miles and is still going , the guy got more
Appreciate that you reviewed an 'old' EV. Nice to see how much life is still left in them. Or especially in this Leaf! Cheers 🍻
Great video enjoyed the interview with the battery man. 👍
Great video. The leaf has really grown on me the more I see it. Ideal as a runabout isn’t it for local journeys. Lovely colour too.
Great video. Really interesting interview with the battery guy. The standard range mg zs also has an lfp, great to hear how long they'll probably last.
I watched this video just before I bought my 2014 Leaf and coincidentally my washer pump just failed. I remembered seeing your DIY repair and just followed it to do my own repair (with a £10 part from eBay) and I now have working windscreen washers again. So thanks for reassuring my about buying a Leaf and thanks for saving me money on repairs!
That's wonderful to hear - and well done for doing it so cheaply!
Thanks for this battery info. It mostly confirms my understanding of battery management. We have a 30 kWh Leaf which has just lost its 12th bar at nearly 5 years of age. We use it mostly for local trips so tend to keep it close to 50% SOC to optimise battery life.
Thanks for the update. I sold my 2011 Leaf for $3600. It had 46% battery and 6 bars with 65890 miles on it. My range was about 38 miles. I upgraded to a PHEV that will give me about 30 miles on the EV side, and 600 miles on the petrol side. (American gallons) My Leaf cost me about 0.05¢ per mile, and returned between 3.4 to 3.9 miles per kWh.
Thank you for the video. Really interesting to hear about your experience and battery health. I bought an used 2017 24kWh 26000km Nissan Leaf for daily commuting. Did my homework before purchase, and I'm fairly confident the car will reach 200 000km without a problem. When it is scorching hot in the summer, avoid quick charging if battery temp bar is over 6 bars to avoid battery degredation. I live in Finland and it is quite cold most of the year, which helps to keep the battery healthy.
Completely agree! Our use case for our 2017 SV (Tecna?) is just that - local chores and zooming around. Perfect at the 2c per mile 'fuel' cost. I am tall and it provides great room for me and all of my miscellaneous junk, super easy to maneuver and park. At-home charging only. Here we lost telematics when 3G cell died, miss that... just like I miss the 2 bars of capacity...
It is always a pleasure to watch your channel. Although we drive and enjoy our hybrid '21 Jeep Wrangler High Altitude 4xe, this info on the Leaf's battery has made me thinking about getting one. Thanks Andrew!
Great to hear - thanks Kathryn!
Yeah, most definitely a great commuter car. I have a 2014 Tekna with 235.000km and a SOH of 70%, 9 bars, still able to do my daily 70km commute and no issues what so ever. Just had an issue with front shock absorber, but for the rest just tyres and wipers changes, break pads are the original.
Thanks Andrew. Most informative, especially the explanation of the urban myth about rapid charging to 'regain' that lost capacity.. From what you said, losing one battery SOH bar means that its health is between about 78% and 85%. As you've seen, the LeafSpy app with the dongle will give you better fine-grained SOH data. Thanks too for the EV equivalent of Hubnut car tinkering! 😉👍
Love my leaf 30. 10 bars battery health at 115,000 miles :) I use the app and it only took about a week to get it transferred :) very interesting interview with your battery expert :) he's the man
Thanks Andrew, really enjoyed that, despite no Flaviana. 😁 One of my favourite things (or used to be) is doing little jobs like that, so satisfying.
I thought your camera work was amazing, you showed everything needed to get the job done. You kept apologising for lack of focus but it was outstanding in such a small area.
Mind you the cobweb said it all...I once had a pet spider living in my wing mirror despite multiple automatic car washes!
Lovely as you are, get the gin in eh? Flaviana's opinion is vital. 😄👍
Thanks, Jude. We have a giant garden spider living in our Leaf wing mirror! It came out to say hello the other day while I was parking and I almost scraped the car!
Really interesting video Andrew - especially the input from your guest battery guru. I've got a 2015 Acenta (24Kwh) and absolutely love it, as our low-cost runaround. Couldn't agree more with your suggestion that in a 2 car family, one should be a cheap(ish) EV........if you can find one 😎
We are in the same boat. 1st gen i3 and we use it 75% of the time. The cost to refuel the ICE car for one month we can drive the EV for over a year.
Flaviana said it was OK to watch this, so I did. Thanks, Andrew!
Our 2014 Leaf is at 101 335 km and 90,34% SOH. This summer I did a 2500km trip and right after that the SOH was 98+ % for a while.
I have 84% health, 225 000km, 8 years. Usually charge to 80%. Moderate climate.
Great info, if only the battery facts were quoted by mainstream media, every EV add or article is inundated with miss-information, Personally I currently have a Toyota hybrid but hope to get an EV in 2-3 years and wouldn't worry at all about getting a 2 year old MG, Hyundai etc, can't afford new and also think its best to wait for the industry and market to stabilise.
Dr. E knows his stuff... Sounds like MG will be selling a few more SR MG4s on the strength of his comments.
Good to see you getting your hands dirty - and why not in these times of austerity!
Leaf is not my cup of tea but agree that it is a great option for a 2nd car...
can agree 100% with Ewan, on our first 24kWh Leaf the battery SOH went to around 91% in Summer and back up to 100% every winter, taking a regular trip that required three rapids in a day in each direction always put up the apparent battery SOH. Our 40Kw Leaf is totally different. just a regular .01% loss of battery SOH every month, now down to 89% at nearly five years old.
30 kWh LEAF bought through ecocars 4.5 years ago and lost the first bar at 83% recently. Has absolutely no impact to the day-to-day usability for me which is typically 75 miles per day, so like you I'm not worried by it.
Thanks for doing this LEAF update 🙂 Handy to know how to fix the washer pump 👍
my dec 2013 leaf 24KWH
AHR=49,19
SOH=75,43 396V
HX=62,93
ODO=148,868 KM
299 QCs
5610 L2 220V every day to 100% CHARGING AT HOME! 2,2KWH
i drive 60km a day... own it for 4 years now
every end of the week when the charge is full i pull the plug out and i put it in again for 2 times! rebalancing every week :)
got only 6mv diference off all cells!
Great video Andrew, and isn't James a lovely chap too!
Hello There, a great Video, you can also get the individual modules replaced for the battery and that will increase the bars on the battery indicator etc. Cheers Peter :-)
P.S. you could replace the battery as well.
Mine is a 40 kw leaf, 2019 model, its gets driven 100 miles per day, 5 days a week. Currently at 60,000 miles, and uses about 80 % per day. So I need the 100% per day.
I guess you need to calculate it again cause James was cheaper than the minor Leaf Service for sure
cause he had taught you how to replace the water pump which is a lot easier once he had shown to you what to do. The nissan service would have just ask you to pay without helping the customer like James does, so great job you and he had achieved and encouraged you to try it yourself.
part 3 - P.S. have charged to 100% at home for past 2 years and 90% at rapids and have only done work on it myself, after its Mot's so in all that time I have replaced a suspension tie bar link (new), a track rod end (new), lower ball joint /arm(new), crazy thing is, all those were on the drivers side and I'm quite slim. lead acid battery (new), a wiper motor (used off ebay), wiper blades (new) and lastly the heater PTC (used ebay from Lithuania) off a very low milage 2021 leaf, yes, yes I know, I'm going on a bit. So 95,000 miles has cost me in parts no more than 500 all in.
and you are right the sound system is dopey (apparently that means excellent) Anyway toddle pip old boy. well young compared to me
cheers Graham
Sold my old leaf 63 plate , it was an ex taxi with 190,000 miles . Still drove absolutely fine and everything still worked . Battery SOH 65% . 50 + miles of range .
Try changing the Bulbs on a Skoda Superb. The manual read something like this; To change Headlight Bulb, first remove Headlight (See Section ** for Instructions) Turn to Section **: To remove Headlight, first remove bumper (See Section %% for Instructions).
Replaced washer pump myself, dealer wanted £126. Got the part for £16 and did it myself, few scrapes on hands and arm from accessing that tight space in front of wheel but worth it!
Andrew, I have complete sympathy with changing light bulbs on cars. You need to have the smallest hands to replace them. I'd like to change my car h7 headlight bulbs to leds, however I know it's going to be a nightmare changing them. Another great video Andrew, keep up the good work.
I still have nightmares about changing headlight bulbs on my old Smart car. You either needed to take wedge your hand into the tiny air vents at the base of the windscreen and do it all by touch one-handed, or take the whole of the front of the car off! Not a trivial task.
Agreed. I've changed headlamps for friends' cars and some models require a substantial amount of removing plastic shields and components, etc. under the hood to get at the socket. Also, two license lamps were out on my 2007 Camry. This was picked up during an oil change and inspection at a Toyota dealer. They quoted $70 parts and labor to replace them! I said no, thanks. Naturally there's a TH-cam video on how to change them. It takes a bit of time but completely doable by the average person.
Great update, am thinking of one of these to get into ev motoring as most of my journeys are short journeys. Love how you said didn't bribe her with enough gin and tonics at the end. Hope all is well, take care
They’re great, reliable cars! If you’re in the UK, talk to eco-cars.net.
@@MrEV thanks for the info, yes am based in Surrey, UK but possibly moving to Ireland in next couple of years.
I’d spray CRC silicone ‘dry’ lube into the washer pump as a preference.
I got a 2023 and now got 15000 miles in 5 months and i love it for local stuff
Hi Andrew, I bought my 2013 Tekna from ebay in 2015. It was a drivable write-off. Hit in the back and shunted into a bus apparently, it had done 29,000 when I got it, all in it cost me 6,800 Quid including repairs (sorry my pound key isn't working) I have been all over the place in it. I live in Morecambe and have been to London 3 times with my Girls (that's not Sugar daddy talk) My two mid to late teens offspring then, early twenties now. My first trip there took 12 hours because being a thrifty/tight bas*rd, we went for for free , I visited every nissan dealer for a charge as close to the M6 and M1 as was humanly possible, It was was a big adventure the first time, subsequent times I'd realised life was/is finite. I digress, Any road up as my Great aunt Hetty used to say, it now has 124,000 on't clock and still has 10 battery bars, ICE car lovers! - STICK THAT IN Y PIPE N SMOKE IT (but not with fire, use some nifty electrons in stead) 1 -
I'm still running around in my 2014 Leaf here in Alaska, and I have all 12 bars. But my SOH is about 87%, so it won't be long now till the first one drops off. It's a perfect run-about vehicle. I'm getting a new 2023 Chevy Bolt in a few months for longer trips, but will probably still hang onto the Leaf as well.
That's amazing going! With a vehicle-to-home charger, there'll be even more reason to keep Leafs around: much cheaper than an equivalent-sized home battery installation!
@@MrEV Excellent point!
First bar drops under 80% SOH
Really great video which will be so useful for people starting out with EVs. The battery academic was very interesting as well although at one point I felt like saying "don't confuse me with facts!" Just as a rough estimate, how much range do you get now from the Leaf? One of these would suit my daughter who would rarely drive more than 30 miles return.
Thanks, Peter! Absolute worse case scenario - motorway driving in winter with freezing temperatures - you'd be looking at 50 miles. Most of the time it's more like 70 miles.
your a good lad Andrew
Good information. Thank-you! Since you mentioned having solar panels to charge your Leaf, may I ask if you also have a home battery or is it just panels and the electric company supplies the rest?
Yes, sadly no home battery yet so the bulk of our energy comes from the grid.
I own two old LEAFs. I bought a “2013” SL on 12/16/2012 - Yes, I just turned 10 years of not buying Gasoline, YAY! - it has lost 7 bars. When it’s cold out, it’s good for 20 to 28 miles. And on 10/13/22 I bought a 2012 for $2450 because it has no heat. The quote locally to repair the heat is $3800 from Nissan! LOL - I’m not fixing it. I use my LEAFs to hog up parking spaces in the city for my Tesla ;) - I live in the city with only on-street parking and I charge out my kitchen window and so I need a particular spot on my street and that’s what the old LEAFs do.
2017 30kWh Leaf, 132,000 miles. 4 capacity bars now gone😢
I wonder if there’s a cheap way to upgrade the sound system?
Thanks Andrew for another informative posting. As your subtitle says, there are still the naysayers who think EV batteries are finished in a few years and end up in landfills. Getting Dr. McTurk to explain why that is not the case adds some authority to put those ‘oily' ideas to bed....We just have to keep hammering away until the general public (whoever General Public is) realise that an EV will stay economically viable and be doing useful work for far longer than any ICE car.
Thanks David! I couldn't agree more.
Great stuff. How about investigating the V2G side of the Leaf? Might be useful this winter if it works
I’ve signed up to Indra’s V2H trial so I’m hoping to share some good news with that after they do the assessment.
@@MrEV Thats great, hopefully some more interesting vids on the way
Another great video, Nissan made the Leaf battery air cooled to keep cost down , there theory was this car is for city and urban driving and not long distance, obviously the water cooled batteries are better especially for longer distances driving.
That's interesting. They must not have anticipated people taking them on long journeys.
I like videos with your wife too, but alone you are much more substantive, hers are funny because of her reaction to something you've done wrong. Keep both types coming.
Actually think of it this way. You bought the EV for a thrifty price point, therefore just do the Robert Llewellyn trick and buy a 40 kWh battery to fit into your 24 kWh leaf. After all the fuel savings you accumulated should pay for the range increase of the new battery installation.
I always wondered why Nissan didn't incorporate a thermal management system as their engineers must have anticipated premature battery degradation in years ahead? Great video, though, especially the contribution from Dr McTurk.
Apparently they just wanted to keep the cost down? Still an odd decision.
Wow Andrew with your new 'Hands on', skill set James maybe looking to recruit you.... 🔨 😇
Provided it’s just replacing bulbs and washer pumps, I’m there!
As someone who bough an EV for the first time 5 weeks ago this is great 👏. Thank you.
One question though, I was already charging between 20-80% but is there a time every now and again when you should charge it up to 100% or let the battery go under 15%? I only ask because I only drive locally and will always charge at home.
Thanks again.
An occasional charge to 100% is recommended actually, as it 'balances the cells'. I had issues with my e-Niro a couple of times where it didn't give an accurate range estimate precisely because I'd not charged to 100% recently.
Worth watching this video from Dr. Euan McTurk: th-cam.com/video/QRPze4f0gsQ/w-d-xo.html
@@MrEV Hi Andrew. Thank you and will watch the video.
When you say occasional, what would you say is occasional? I generally charge 20-80% twice a month as I don't do a lot of miles.
Thanks again for the reply.
Am looking at used Leafs right now, may have to pull the trigger at some point soon.
What did you purchase ?
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@@walterkaiyuenpang3556 Hi. I got the new Kia Niro EV. Very happy with it so far.
Still amazed that nissan don't do their own battery upgrade program. I would love to get the 40kwh pack fitted. Its a real shame
Definitely. They're just leaving money on the table?!
@@MrEV I would be at their door if they had a scheme. Given they are still making the batteries this seems a no brainer to me, and it ties in servicing for a few years yet.
You could try Muxsan.
@@RoaldHemel35 they seem to have gone very quiet recently. Not sure what is going on with them
@@patrickjr11 can’t find their phone number. I’ll fill in the contact from.
May i ask why you kept the model 3 over the ioniq 5?
We only had the Model 3 for three months. I just filmed that part of the video in summer when we had it.
How do you charge the leaf at home? I'm guessing you've got a type 2 and the leaf having a chademo you'd probably need to slow charge with a granny cable.
Type 1 to type 2 Converters are available
Tiny point; opportunity cost of solar charging means it isn’t ‘free’; cost is the loss of the export tariff income; this doesn’t include ultimate replacement and other solar costs - but for practical purposes it’s almost ‘free’.
I suppose nothing's ever really 'free' but for us the panels were already here when we moved in, and we're on the wonderful old feed-in-tariff so we're paid for generation and export.
Ouch on the washer pump! Realistic cost is about £12.50. Most of the time you can just get a generic one and it'll fit and last as long as the car. Only bonus of OEM is it should fit first time. I very much doubt nissan make their own washer pumps!
Washer pump for BMW-s (that includes 7 series luxury flagship and every other BMW model available) costs less than 50€. And that is the price for 1995 year BMW as well. And 2005. And 2015.
I would plug led headlights in em. Not halogen.
I'm kicking myself for not thinking of that when I bought them in a hurry!
and it's off again, could it be to do with being very long? basically its My 2013 leaf Tekna life story 124,000 miles
P.S. love your channel
Andrew, why on earth would you put halogen bulbs in an electric car, especially one with a small range like a Leaf? LED's are the way to go in any car and they use so little power to run. Plus they are almost twice as bright. They can be ordered online for $40. American.
I ordered the lights in a rush without doing too much research and I'm kicking myself for not getting an LED now. It didn't even occur to me!
I'm so jealous. In Switzerland it's impossible to get a good one for under 15k
So all the time you could not get registered on the app, could the previous owner have accessed the car? Could be an interesting future video..Apps and car security
That's a really interesting point. I imagine it's possible. Certainly worth doing a video about - great idea.
I've seen Nissan leafs with 50k miles on them, and only 2 bars. Apparently they don't like hot climates. Why is there no internal fan rotating the air around the pack? I figured, any 12v, 1A fan has sufficient power to cause an air draft, significantly extending longevity of the cells, while using less power than even an LED headlight.
If the nissan leaf cells didn't have the cell heater pads, they would last longer as well, at least in hot climates. As far as cold climates, you could fast charge the batteries which will heat up the cells enough. At 12A, 220V, most sockets support up to 2640W, some even up to 15A or 3300W. That's sufficient power to increase the cell temperatures to 75f, and dump some hot air in the cabin.
Nissan should have just pasted each cell on an aluminum plate, mounted to the battery chassis, for faster heat extraction.
Had a 24kw leaf sa a taxi 120000 miles only lost one bar
We've had a Leaf from new for 9 years and we've NEVER been able to get CarWings going. When I called Nissan they assumed that I was a hacker, treated me like a crim. Pity becaue otherwise I can't fault the leaf. Goint to trade up soon, but it won't be Nissan, even tho the wife likes the look of the Arya. It's just too inconvenient going out to the car to check the SOC all the time.
I like the shirt!
Does LeafSpy give an accurate, or at least more accurate SoH, than the bars?
I’m not sure to be honest, but my assumption is that LeafSpy has its own algorithm which likely is no more accurate than Nissan’s. The difference is obviously that you get the exact percentage instead of the 12 bars with LeafSpy which personally I prefer.
I lost my carwings. Apparently with a recall update. So frustrating.
Oh that's so annoying. What year Leaf do you have?
our 2012 still rolls around daily @60% SOH probably has a few years of useful life left for what we do with it
It's on
The BEV is the perfect short trip way of avoiding the worst aspect of ICE motoring - the elimination of the cold start wear and rotting of the exhaust system.
ICE (for a while longer) for motorways and EV for city congestion………then don’t be late dumping the old dirty ICE entirely.
My wife hates the leaf with a vengeance , looks of outside , personally I’m not bothered but its battery problems and it’s charging standards are poor . Don’t expect to go far without waiting or blocking ac chargers for hours . If have home charging at home ok for 2nd runabout , love Italian food ❤
My 2014 eNV200 still has 12 bars on the health indicator. Its a 3.3kw 24kwh thats done 40k miles.
That’s encouraging! Have you owned it since new? I’d love to know how often you charge it to 100%.
@@MrEV I bought it with 18k miles and I'm not afraid to charge to 100% overnight but only if I know I'm using it the next day. I have an m3 for distance use.
@@dereknicol5284 Great - well done! I wonder how many Leaf/eNV200 owners have killed their batteries by leaving it parked up at 100%.
7.5p... wt* where do you live? It's up to 70ct currently in the NL's... coming from 5ct in less than a year...
In the South East of the UK. 7.5p is fixed for me until April, at which point it'll go up to 12p.
More updates please.
How about a Polestar 2 Standard Range? Don't test?
Off topic, but I notice you have solar thermal for your domestic hot water.
We do! It’s great. We’ll do a video at some point soon.
@@MrEV Look forward to it, put mine in 10 years ago ( panels in the garden) - paid for itself 3 times over.
Please tell me how to charge a 2016 Nissan leaf only to 80% overnight, without physically monitoring it charge, when there is no remote function to do so on the car ?
If you set the charge schedule in the car (instead of using your wallbox to schedule), there’s an option called Long Life Mode. Select that and it’ll always just charge to 80%.
Sorry that function does not exist on a 2016 Nissan Leaf 30 kwhr, i remember something about Nissan removing it because they thought that charging to 100 % was not the issue that they originally thought it was with earlier models. How wrong they were.
@@stevezodiac491 Sorry - I had no idea. That's crazy! I wonder whether that makes the 30kWh suffer from degradation more than others?
@MrEV As you know all EV's degrade with time and use cycles, that is why I have learned my lesson and will never buy another EV ever again, whereas my 15 year old Mercedes E Class diesel and my 19 1/2 year old Mazda MX5 petrol still have the ranges they were bought with, the Mercedes having over 3 times the range of a modern EV at 650 miles at dual carriageway speeds and 350 miles pulling a 7.5 metre fixed bed 4 berth caravan. My wall box is a dumb charger by the way immune to the forthcoming fuel duty on electricity used for an EV, which will become inevitable if there is no duty from ice vehicles. That and 20 % vat, instead of the 5 % domestic rate. Hospitals etc. will still need to be built.
Will you have another Leaf update ?
There’s not much to report really - it’s still great! I’ll try to film something soon though.
Maybe a cost breakdown of ownership the degradation of range and battery.
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June 2023: I doubt you'd be getting £8k for it now after the sag in 2nd hand values. However there must be a price floor below which anything that turns on, moves and passes an MoT can't drop below! 😆
Yes, a quick look on AutoTrader and I think we'd be lucky to get £6k!
@@MrEV you should see the plummeting graph on AT since last autumn for my nearly 4yr old i3! It should normalise hopefully before long...
On yerself @106euan, “it’s basically rust”
I’ve been following the charging costs, at the time of this video, and due to the current UK energy pricing rip off, and the economics for public charging just don’t work. It there seems to be near price parity for EVs. My calculations make it almost equal for a 64 mpg Diesel at 1.77 / litre vs an EV charging at 0.69 p/ kWh contactless when calculating GBP/mile and assuming 3.5 mile/kWh. I know it’s not just about money but with a price premium for an efficient EV it seem the incentive has gone. I want to do something for the environment but have I got my figures wrong?
I agree that for anyone that relies on a lot of public charging, right now the EV equation doesn’t necessarily work unless it’s an ultra-efficient car. That said, when considering total cost of ownership, including slower depreciation, then an EV can still work out the better deal.