I've done this on a pretty old mono printer, while it worked, it didn't feel like a definitive solution, at least with the cheap basic resin I used. The resin is pretty hard and the parts will also grind against each other just like the plastic ones, I didn't like the feel of it, even with lubrication, so I removed after a couple of weeks. Also, the encoder wheel is super finnicky to get right, you have to be super careful with the supports when preparing for the print and when removing the supports from the part as well. I need to test this again with a more decent resin, or maybe with a higher resolution printer, mine has just enough XY resolution to make something that barely works, but it doesn't feel optimal. For now I've been using cheap replacement parts for my original sticks, but I've also been using a NGC style Hall Effect stick module, the one by 8bitdo, there are I think one or two other brands also selling HE modules, but I haven't tried any other one yet. I love the HE module and I switch between a refurbished stick and the HE on my N64, while on the MiSTer I've been mostly using a refurbished stick lately.
Personally i use epoxy putty and glue to refill the wear on both the bowl and the gear slots and then i sand them into shape along with some grease to make everything smooth and prevent more damage. It's about as close to perfect as a new joystick could get in my own experience, I've done it to all my controllers and I've had no problems whatsoever so far.
@@LITTLE1994 I have been thinking about doing a tutorial on my method to fix the joysticks for a while, but while i would love to help all my fellow N64 enthusiasts out there i know nothing about video editing and i don't have any broken controllers to fix right now.
Cool vid! I'm lucky enough I still have 3 oem sticks that are super tight and snap back to the center haha I'm barely using those, but the kitsch bent parts are decent if you align them right with some grease! They feel good too, way better than 3rd party replacement controllers.
I use kitsch-bent parts. I also used lube. Seeing this made me go look at their site again and they have different color sticks now. They use to only have clear sticks. Might be time to grab a few light gray sticks.
I have recently come up with a wonderful idea for improving smoothness but i have yet to try it out. The idea is from my testing i hypothesize alot of the friction and unwanted resistance in the stick can come from the gear shafts rotation point on the rim of the bowl clearly lubricant put here can improve smoothness by a fair margin but better yet if the bowl and gear shaft are slightly modified to use ball bearings instead of relying on a lubricant and smooth contact surfaces(i've found a few aftermarket gears with rough seems there). May make for good content and so far i have yet to find anyone attempting this specific joystick mod.
@@VKsChannel Well, turns out metal is really tough to turn well on a lathe, our resin printer still needs to be set up. I tried to do it with nylon, but that is really hard to machine too. I´m thinking of creating my own joystick type. because the gamecube sticks are inaccurate i´m planning on making an entirely mechanical 3ds-style circle pad in cad and print it in resin or SLS (just an idea) because you can have basicly any type of control stick, as long as you actuate the wheels with the opto sensors. by not installing a gamecube joystick but making my own type of analog stick I am able to keep the accuracy with better durability. (at least i hope so...)
Steelstick64 B-grade bowls went back in stock less than a week ago at the time of this comment. I bought two. If you want to be in the loop, join the mailing list
Resin 3D printing might be a better option.
Yes I gotta get one of those soon
I've done this on a pretty old mono printer, while it worked, it didn't feel like a definitive solution, at least with the cheap basic resin I used. The resin is pretty hard and the parts will also grind against each other just like the plastic ones, I didn't like the feel of it, even with lubrication, so I removed after a couple of weeks. Also, the encoder wheel is super finnicky to get right, you have to be super careful with the supports when preparing for the print and when removing the supports from the part as well.
I need to test this again with a more decent resin, or maybe with a higher resolution printer, mine has just enough XY resolution to make something that barely works, but it doesn't feel optimal. For now I've been using cheap replacement parts for my original sticks, but I've also been using a NGC style Hall Effect stick module, the one by 8bitdo, there are I think one or two other brands also selling HE modules, but I haven't tried any other one yet. I love the HE module and I switch between a refurbished stick and the HE on my N64, while on the MiSTer I've been mostly using a refurbished stick lately.
Personally i use epoxy putty and glue to refill the wear on both the bowl and the gear slots and then i sand them into shape along with some grease to make everything smooth and prevent more damage. It's about as close to perfect as a new joystick could get in my own experience, I've done it to all my controllers and I've had no problems whatsoever so far.
You should make a tutorial!!
Make a video out of that to help original N64 owners like myself.
@@LITTLE1994 I have been thinking about doing a tutorial on my method to fix the joysticks for a while, but while i would love to help all my fellow N64 enthusiasts out there i know nothing about video editing and i don't have any broken controllers to fix right now.
You can edit videos on your phone easily today
The epoxy is another solution but i think it requires more sanding and finishing than the resin ones
@@donhonk Check out Luke Morse tutorial from 2012, he goes through the entire process ( OEJmSQjONRg )
I love how you left in the footage struggling to get Mario 64 to turn on 😆
Great project!
Blowing on the cartridge was the best! Pure nostalgia. Also like that you were playing on a CRT
Never had to blow a N64 game. That was the NES.
Guess I'll keep that in mind for my own N64.
Cool vid! I'm lucky enough I still have 3 oem sticks that are super tight and snap back to the center haha I'm barely using those, but the kitsch bent parts are decent if you align them right with some grease! They feel good too, way better than 3rd party replacement controllers.
i got lucky and bought used controllers from ebay and 3 of them were mint brand new lol. super lucky
I use kitsch-bent parts. I also used lube. Seeing this made me go look at their site again and they have different color sticks now.
They use to only have clear sticks. Might be time to grab a few light gray sticks.
Yeah, I don't know about that one… but it was interesting to watch :p
Achei da hora tua fita da Playtronic, mó nostalgia. Tenho algumas fitas feitas brasileiras também, mas já são da época da Gradiente, pós '96.
What kind of grease did you use I need some
Silicon grease you can use lubricant for keyboard switches too
The old good days
I have recently come up with a wonderful idea for improving smoothness but i have yet to try it out. The idea is from my testing i hypothesize alot of the friction and unwanted resistance in the stick can come from the gear shafts rotation point on the rim of the bowl clearly lubricant put here can improve smoothness by a fair margin but better yet if the bowl and gear shaft are slightly modified to use ball bearings instead of relying on a lubricant and smooth contact surfaces(i've found a few aftermarket gears with rough seems there). May make for good content and so far i have yet to find anyone attempting this specific joystick mod.
I have access to a resin 3d printer and i'm going to try turning a metal bowl, and 3d print a stick
Tell me how it went!
@@VKsChannel Well, turns out metal is really tough to turn well on a lathe, our resin printer still needs to be set up. I tried to do it with nylon, but that is really hard to machine too.
I´m thinking of creating my own joystick type.
because the gamecube sticks are inaccurate i´m planning on making an entirely mechanical 3ds-style circle pad in cad and print it in resin or SLS (just an idea)
because you can have basicly any type of control stick, as long as you actuate the wheels with the opto sensors.
by not installing a gamecube joystick but making my own type of analog stick I am able to keep the accuracy with better durability. (at least i hope so...)
Do sell any?
you can buy professionally plastic injected parts here
store.kitsch-bent.com/en-br/collections/replacement-parts
Man just yesterday I looked at my n64 wishing I could use it
time to get it working again
@@VKsChannel yeah brudda, gonna get those sticks working good
Steelstick64 B-grade bowls went back in stock less than a week ago at the time of this comment. I bought two. If you want to be in the loop, join the mailing list
When the audio from your mic plays there's a lot of noise in it, you might need to adjust the audio to reduce it
Otherwise great video!
I need a new microphone!
Always here to support. Hey could you do a fix or replacement for pc when motherboard dies.
dang, the bowls are out of stock.
He restocks it frequently, just wait for the next batch
I wonder if adding grease to the stick disqualifies you from speed-running.
Just submit it to the "with grease" category and it should be fine.
Hold up, are you brazilian?!
Yeah
@@VKsChannel Tinha minhas suspeitas mas o cartucho da Playtronic evidenciou. 😅 Adoro seus videos de controles, continue com o ótimo trabalho!
@@DragonsDogmaEnjoyer Não foi a TV da CCE? 😅
Just scrape some of bumpy spots off with your fingerna…. Never mind. ;)
Anxiety kills them 😂
Howdid Glover make it into the vid. I loved that game vut it was terrible!!! 😂😂
The whole controller is flawed
This sucks.
What?