The only thing I dislike about this channel is that you and pewview make every gun look amazing with no recoil lmao y’all are too good at shooting, I can’t tell how it actually performs for a regular mortal. I do like when you have your wife shoot as it’s more realistic tbh
Yea but it’s what comes with years of practice lol. I would recommend calling ranges near you to find the specific model you’re looking for and hopefully you can rent it for a bit and see how it is.
I have several P365s and I'm not even a huge Sig fan, however the 365 is just that good. My 9 year old shoots one for USPSA because it's small enough to fit his tiny hands but still perform very well. We've "race gunned" it up about as much as possible. It currently has a XL slide on an Icarus Precision XMacro lower. It has an MCarbo trigger, springs and striker, a Ballistic Advantage threaded barrel, and Taran Tactical mag extensions. We've also sighted it with a Holosun 407K so he's shooting limited optics with it. Its not much of a Sig any longer but it's got 15k+ rounds through it now and it's been extremely reliable.
Mine has the MCARBO trigger and spring kit as well. Beyond that, it's currently on the Icarus Air grip module, has Tyrant takedown lever and slide catch, Align Tactical mag release, custom comped and ported slide, and FDEZ Werx ported barrel. It started as the SAS model 😂😂😂
@@JJ_SDWR definitely worth it! The small FCU's are a bit tricky to disassemble and reassemble but it can be done. I recommend taking it to a gunsmith unless you're comfortable doing it. There are instructional videos. In my opinion, definitely less travel to the wall and less travel to the reset. Feels lighter overall but the spring kit is mostly to blame for that. Very close to a 4lb trigger and still smoothing out some. With more rounds it will probably feel more like 3.5.
I just want to thank you for all of your videos. It was about a year or so ago when I first got into the gun world, a little late in life at 45 but hey, better late than never in this crazy world. You are the first person I saw a video from and have followed you ever since. As a matter of fact, the first pistol I ever bought, 365XL, was on your suggestion of how good it was and it has served me well so far(luckily, no life altering events yet). Just wanted to throw that out there, I still watch all of your videos and reviews, and if I go to buy something, I look to see if you've checked it out first for performance first. Keep up the good work sir, and thank you for all the helpful information over the last year or so.
I am an Sig fan. When the 365 came out I went into a local gun store put my hands on one and I hated the way it felt. Within less than a minute, based on the way it fell in my hand, I decided I did not want this pistol. I handed it back and did not think about any more…., until….., you kept making videos about the different models and bragging on the gun…., over and over. This model that model and so on. Given the fact that I value your opinion, because I believe you provide honest reviews, I gave the gun another look. I went to a gun range and rented a 365 that had both a 10 and 12 round mag. After about two boxes of range ammo and one box of self-defense ammo I ended up buying the package that came with three 12 round mags. The Sig 365 is a good shooter and a great option. Thank you for the reviews as well as the time and effort you and your wife put in on this content. You guys rock.
I have them all, and the P365X set up is my favorite. 12rd grip frame from the XL with 3.1" barrel. Super comfortable to conceal and easy to get good grip.
You are 100% correct. The legion has the exact same X trigger as all of the X and XL models have. I guess Sig thought since it was already the upgraded trigger option over the original curved trigger they didn’t need to gussy it up anymore than they already had…
I went with the P365X for my carry gun and it's been wonderful. The XL frame fits my hand super well, the flat face trigger is nice, and the standard P365 slide satisfied my tism of wanting it to be even with the frame. Best of all, zero malfunctions so far, surprisingly shootable!
Look into the Mag guts kit for your mags. I carry the 365x with the mag guts kit for mine. 2 extra rounds in your stock mags and zero length added to the magazine. 14+1 is sweet.
My micro p365 with it's 10 round mag, is the ultimate, reliable, CC handgun in the world! I've put thousands of rounds through it without one fail. It's completely stock! No special barrel, no Magna porting, no special trigger, no light, no dot and I dedicated all my time to shooting it with the 10 round mag, even though my hands are large. After months and months of training, I can now say I'm a proficient with it as a sharp shooter. Thank you Sig for the best and last CC handgun I'll even own.
@@teamtalib1209 Ok, "hot weather" carry. We prefer to go larger when we can in the winter like a CZP01 or a Sig 229. If I could only afford one carry gun, I would go with the P365XL.
@@microplasticsinurblud We've tried the 365 and the 365XL. We 've never tried the macro, but we have considered it for a winter carry option. I think for us, the grip would be too long to conceal in the summer. I have to imagine that it would be a good choice if you can conceal it.
Being an FFL I rotate out my carry several times a year. Of all Sigs I’d have to say the P365XL Spectre Comp is my favorite. BUT my favorite overall is the Hellcat RDP. It’s the only one I haven’t gotten rid of. The hellcat grips feel a bit bigger or beefier and easier for me to hold even though they are both 1 inch wide. I find most men agree when given the option to compare. Now I’m just waiting on the Hellcat Pro Comp to be delivered.
Good review… I have an X as my carry and an X-macro as my duty and I’m very happy with both of them. Separately, I must say how impressed I am with Mrs Outlaw as I watch her manage the recoil. I think her grip is likely better than mine. Kudos and blessings!
I carry what started life as an unported X Macro. It now has a Wilson Combat XL frame and magazines with Mag Guts kits. 14+1. It's the only Sig i like.
P365 Xmacro Comp, Holosun 407k, and tlr7 sub with Antimatter Micro-Wing. Got back to shooting after 20+ years and had more trouble controlling the snap than I like to admit. Micro-wing was a game changer and I’m loving this thing now!
I haven't pulled the trigger yet, but I'm planning on getting an XL and buy the smaller frame and see which I prefer. I like the flexibility of the platform. Thanks for this video
I have the P322. The Taurus TX22 and the new TX22 TORO optics ready beats it hands down. I never shoot my P322 now, only the TX22s. Taurus may have some ‘cheap’ connotations, but they got the TX22 exactly right . . .
Same. I had a 322 and compact tx22, sold the sig. Taurus 22 is amazing and never fails to go bang. About to pick up the new toro version full-size next, can’t beat it for the price.
@@patrickallen2943 If you get it soon it should still qualify for the 3 free mag rebate as well! I am normally not a big fan of gun rebates as it seems like they usually take forever, and half the time never receive them. Well in this case i got the approval back in just a couple weeks, and my 3 free mags are on their way as we speak. So you end up with FIVE mags and the TX22TORO for under $300. Cant beat that!
I cant stress this enough, look into the mag guts guts kits for them. Adds 2 rounds of capacity for the stock mags without adding a single mm of length. 14+1 in my 365x edc.
Great video! I have two of these pistols (.380 & X-Macro). I added the Radian Weapons Backstrap & Magwell to my X-Macro. Wow! What an excellent addition to an already controllable pistol!
I own a P365 XL with a Romeo 0 sight and 12 round magazine. Thin, light, accurate and enough fire power. I guess that Sig are getting better with their later versions. Graet video
The original P365 can be picked up for a song, and the extended magazine dramatically increases capacity. Enhances the grip, too, as I have large hands and a big frame. I think I have a 17+1 ammo store, and to know I don't even need to carry a spare mag to deal with multiple threats? Awesome. I wish it had the flat trigger that my P320 X10 has, but I like the stock trigger. Having converted from the rather grainy HK 45C triggers, it's perfectly acceptable. Love your channel. Thank you for your efforts. I know. Work work work. All that shooting must leave you exhausted.
@PilgrimPrepper I am more accurate at 25 meters ith my XL than my G34. I think that trigger and that crisp break at the middle of the usual travel on other gun help me a lot to have great results With it
P365 XL also has the best versatility on converting it to other configurations. Slide can work with 10r mag grip module, 12r grip module, or even convert it to a Macro grip module holding 17r.
Love my 365XL and specter comp, love my 365 AXG Legion.. love how my macro shoots but didn’t love the trigger, who’s reset spring fell off.. maybe it was a lemon? It always felt “crunchy”, ratcheting thru the pull-haven’t gotten to try it since repaired. They’re ALL very accurate!
I have the P365 XL Spectre. Absolutely love it. Got the holosun 507k, tlr7 sub, and Magguts +2 base plate. Over 3k rds thru it so far.....been carrying for going on 2 yrs now.
I bought the p365 standard about a year after it came out. With the standard length Wilson Combat grip and tungsten weights and a 12 round mag with an extension to make it equivalent to a 365 X. Kicks much less and is gripable.
I really respect the XL. The standard 365 is just too small for me. One of my carry pistols is an XL with the Sig micro dot. It works well. Is it a good as a Spector Comp? No. But I got it cheap.
I hope Sig releases a non-comp version of the P365 AXG Legion - like the TACOPS. I prefer the 3.7 barrel and no comp when I carry. Ibused to carry the original X-Macro comp but for me, the TACOPS version shoots better.
Love my 365XL, best all around Pistol I've ever owned. The Shield plus is a close second, but it is second imo. I think for most it's a grip feel in this category.
I have the AXG Legion and use as my EDC and also shoot IDPA with it. My wife has the rose edition and after I shot her gun, I started looking for a sig pistol for myself. I am usually a Walther guy, though after shooting the AXG, I might have to add a few more Sig's to my collection.
Got the standard X Macro, loved it but a bit big to carry with the handle length. Swapped out the frame for a Wilson Combat XL version and it’s become my favorite carry gun. Basically a cheaper version of the spectre comp!
I prefer more punch than 9mm, but my P365XL + HS507K are definitely growing on me. The Sig front sight tritium insert popped out so I switched to Trijicon HD sights which are just tall enough to cowitness with the red dot.
After getting my spectre comp, I have pretty much ignored my others. I shoot it better than my beretta and it's more comfortable than my m&p 2 compact. Awesome device!
I took a stock P365 and used a Wilson Combat trigger module and a Mcarbo flat blade trigger and spring kit, with a HOLOSUN 507k (Green) and Suppressor height sights. Now it's my favorite gun to carry
First I bought a P365XL and then a Hellcat Pro. Didn't like the Hellcat Pro's trigger so I sold it and bought another P365XL. Then I bought a FCU and a P365XL Spectre Comp slide.😁 You know where I'm going! I had a leftover complete P365XL upper so I had to do another P365XL build. 😂 Mess around with the P365 and the modularity is inevitably unavoidable. 😘
I wanted something small, light, easy to conceal, and with an adequate capacity. I’m a Glock guy through and through but I find myself primarily carrying the P365. The real game changer was the Wilson Combat XL grip module. COMPLETELY changed the feel in my hand, almost like it’s molded for them and I have large hands(use large backstrap on my G45). Plus with the 12 round factory mags, more capacity than the 43x. I will still carry the 43X from time to time but that little P365 is hard to beat.
I’m surprised Mrs. Outlaw hasn’t made you buy her the P365 Rose XL Comp… It’s essentially the Spectre Comp dressed up for women and about $300 cheaper with a Lifepod lock box. I bought one for my secretary as a bonus gift and I’ve shot it every time I’ve taken her to the range to practice so she can get her CCW, and I love it! I own the original P365 (all Wilson Combat Gucci’d up, WC grip module and WC custom slide work, WC sights and the Gray Guns trigger from WC), I also have the AXG Legion, and I previously had the XMacro Comp (traded that in on the AXG), but the point of my rambling is to say, I liked my secretary’s Rose XL Comp so much that I’m now going to get myself the Spectre Comp to be my EDC!
So you prefer the Spectre comp over the X Macro and AXG Legion? I have the Spectre Comp it’s my EDC but I’ve been thinking about getting the Legion or Macro and putting a light and EPS Carry for home defense
@@justin5421if you’re wanting the AXG Legion or XMacro COMP for “home defense” then I say “yes” definitely get one for the higher capacity being home invaders are usually not alone… However, for EDC, in my opinion and my opinion only, unless you have a larger frame with more area to conceal the 17 round grip on the MACRO and Legion they have a tendency to print way to much for my liking. The only time I could conceal my MACRO was in the cooler months under a jacket, even a loose sweater allowed more printing than I like when bending over or reaching up to get stuff off shelves when shopping and such. After I traded in my MACRO for my Legion I never even wasted the money on getting a holster for the Legion, I keep it either in a lock box by my bed for home defense or in a lock box in my desk at the office, but I have never and don’t ever plan to carry it. Like I said I currently carry the standard 10 round OG P365 and whether I carry appendix or 3:00 it never prints even with just a loose T-shirt on… I tried my secretary’s Rose XL in my normal carry holster and with the 12 round grip module and I had virtually the same results as the 10 round grip module, so that’s why I’m going to get a Spectre COMP, because despite what the “haters” say I love how the integrated comp takes away virtually all of the snappiness of the non-comped P365s. In all honesty, if I had the body size to conceal a MACRO or the AXG Legion, I’d probably carry my Legion, but unfortunately I don’t. But as far as shoot-ability difference between the Rose XL COMP and the XMACRO COMP I couldn’t tell the difference and that’s why I want the Spectre COMP because it’s basically the masculine version of the Rose XL COMP with the only real difference being the slide serrations and lightning cuts which are more aesthetic than performance enhancements…
When they came out with the Spectre Comp I picked it up ran about 500 rounds through it with zero malfunctions and been carrying it ever since. I still carry a p365 when I need something really concealable but thats about it. Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
P365x has been my daily carry for the last couple years. Excellent gun. I installed a compensator and EPS carry. I have plans to get other versions and a p320 variant down the road.
A couple of weeks ago, I bought a used Sig 365X with the older optics ready slide (The screws are under the slide and go into the underside of the rear sight.). I put a Holosun EPS-CARRY (green reticle) and a Streamlight TLR-7 Sub on it. Since I have had sciatica problems, the 365X has even replaced my Taurus 856UL as my "sciatica gun." First shot after I added the accessories cut between the upper arms of the X at 15 yards. So far, it doesn't like 12+1 carry with the only stoppages being when a full 12 round magazine was inserted after chambering a round. Since I'm carrying twice as many rounds as I did with the 856, I can live with it. It's the only Sig I own. My GTW/SHTF gun is a S&W M&P9 2.0 5" FDE.
I put a Wilson Combat grip module and a Tyrant CNC trigger on my X Macro and while I'm not a seasoned enough shooter to say the trigger is a big improvement, the grip module definitely is.
I’m pretty sure the trigger is exactly the same throughout the models including the legion. It’s literally the same FCU. I chatted with sig last year about the spectre comp asking the same thing about the gold trigger. According to them, same trigger. Thanks for the vid, Chris!
When we were finally able to purchase a P365 in California I wasted no time going to my local dealer. I got a screaming deal on the Romeo X compact red dot and together it is a knockout for my EDC plus it’s so very accurate.
Your number 1 is my EDC as well. I find it really comfortable plus I have enough ammo in each mag. I been wanting a Legion but not sure if I even need to buy it since I have the Comp.
Just bought the X Macro Comp yesterday as a Father’s Day present to myself. Can’t wait to get it to the range. ( after I get my Wilson Combat frame for it.)
Instructive video, as I'm deciding which P365 to get, leaning towards the X. One thing that's great, I saw on the Sig website the standard P365 does in fact come optic ready.
Macro Grip module and Shalotek "XXL" slide with threaded barrel for me personally, the same barrel length and capacity as a glock 17, but thinner and easier to carry. I literally forget I'm carrying it half the time.
I currently have the radian metal back strap and mag well on the original xmacro w/ a TLR 7 sub, and tax dev spacer and pro ledge. That setup provides real estate and weight in the right places on a small gun.
Mine is a P365xl .... Optic is a Holosun EPS Carry, added a Wilson Combat grip module and a True Precision threaded barrel. Carry in a Safariland Species holster.
I love my p365 x that I modded into a Spectre comp with a Wilson combat module with tungsten weights and a magguts magazine for that 14+1 out of a 12+1 mag. So easy to edc and amazing to shoot!
I have two. A micro-9mm and a micro-.380 . Both have 12 round magazines and are very compact. Accurate, best stock trigger Ive ever had "Shield + is close" and have both been flawless. These are pure CCW guns tho the .380 is a gas. I'm getting old and am a retired PO and cant carry a full size anymore, "on occasion a G29 ;-)". My carry load for 9mm is 124 grn HST +P. For .380 I carry 90 grn SIG Elite JHP.
Crazy that the p365 Fuse comes out after your top 5 p365 video. My favorite gun ever, I own three. Endless possibilities to change the firearm constantly and always runs.
@@HonestOutlawReviews thanks for the reply. I’ve been watching your videos for years now since the table top reviews; been awesome seeing how big y’all got. You’ve been a core root foundation to my success in firearms, to owning everything from a shadow 2 to p30L, and continuing to teach me about new firearms. I don’t have any social media so I’m not as involved, but thanks for everything. Stay blessed and stay safe y’all.
Awesome review, thank you. I didn't know about the P322. I'll have to check one out. I'm loving to shoot again but it is getting expensive. If I can get great practice and fun plinking too, I'll have to get a P322! Thanks again! Y'all have a great Sunday and a Happy Father's Day! God Bless Y'all 🤠
i want to like the 365 series, i really do. i tried the comped xmacro at my range and i was hitting every round out of the box without fail. i just can't jive with the expensive mags and the vocal population with reliability issues
I just got the x macro comp this weekend and I gotta say its absolutely incredible. Got an icarus precision grip on the way and I cant wait to get some more rounds through this thing. I have a staccato CS but carrying it with the big beaver tail is less than ideal so im happy ive got the sig now.
I am considering purchasing a P365, and was wondering if Sig has resolved the issues you mentioned with the spring as mentioned in your original 1000 round review.
Great vid! Mine is configured with a spectre comp slide with suppressor height night sights, X-macro grip module with the tac ops magwell and an IMT adjustable flat trigger. It's a chef's kiss of a gun.
I started with the OG P365. I kept the OG frame (for concealment) and the XL slide. I carry the SAS ported every day. 10rd flush fit in the stack. 1 or 2 factory 12rd with MagGuts 14rd conversions. Seriously tho. I was good with the 938.
I have an P365x with 12 and mostly 17 round magazines plus a 507k red dot and really love it. My hand size is medium so it has a slightly larger frame than the regular P365 but also slightly smaller than the x-Macro and its fancier cousins. Like you said, plenty to choose from. Great video. Would like to see a S&W Performance Center best 5 video too!
I have the spectre comp with the aluminum Icarus grip and love it. I would have went with the legion to add to my 229 legion but it wasn’t available 2 years ago. Hands down favorite EDC ever and the capability to go with 12rd when I am printing cations or the 17 with looser clothes is a huge plus. It’s my mini 229, all metal and awesome.
And people still say he is a sig hater. He just has a bad rap with the 320. I personally love sig and the 320 and 365 but he has shown some of the PAST issues of the 320. They are not relevant now. Great video and great job outlaw
Love the video. I know you don't do a whole lot of customization, but I wish you would do a video on a fully decked out 365, like a custom built. Icarus precision macro grip, Shalotek or FDez werkz xxl comped slide, which uses the 3.9 inch barrel and is still comped. It's awesome, and I'd love to see you shoot one customized in this fashion.
I'm not usually into Hogue grips but if you dislike how thin the XL frame is, I found the Hogue sleeve to be a perfect "fattener" for it. Super cheap hack
Headed to gun store today to put these different guns in my hand to see what would be best for me. Im a novice but my guess is that would just get an XL and modify it over time. Better to have a stock gun then no gun at all.
Yep! I run p365xL W/10 round leg grip, handles 9mm I have a P320 compact l😮 in 40 S&W & another full size in 45acp! My old P250 handles 357 sig!! so much for one chaise and multiple calibers🤷♂️ oh well!!
Thanks for your review. I started on the P365X and then got an XL comp for it. It holds its own against the other models I've tried. Your review may cause me to build another.
Nice overview! I have an OG P365 with optics cut and safety, which I pocket carry. Even with the flat baseplate, I get a good grip with my average/large hand. Being my carry pistol, it is also my favorite pistol! While the P365 is a very refined chassis, 10+ round micro-9, it was not the first with these features. That was the Kel-Tec P11, which was my carry for many years--until I got my P365, which is worlds beyond the K-T!
I just got myself the P365 XL ROSE COMP and can’t wait to pick it up in a few weeks. They say it’s made for “girls” but that thang is too damn beautiful not to get for myself haha. Hopefully you can do a video on that one yourself one day. Great videos!
The only thing I dislike about this channel is that you and pewview make every gun look amazing with no recoil lmao y’all are too good at shooting, I can’t tell how it actually performs for a regular mortal. I do like when you have your wife shoot as it’s more realistic tbh
Just grip that shit big dog 😂
I kinda agree
Yea but it’s what comes with years of practice lol. I would recommend calling ranges near you to find the specific model you’re looking for and hopefully you can rent it for a bit and see how it is.
IKR. Micro compacts suck so bad to shoot, so snappy on the recoil . It’s inevitable unless you shoot alllll the time
his reviews are supplementary in sense that when it comes to buying a gun you have try it and shoot it and have first hand experience.
I have several P365s and I'm not even a huge Sig fan, however the 365 is just that good. My 9 year old shoots one for USPSA because it's small enough to fit his tiny hands but still perform very well. We've "race gunned" it up about as much as possible. It currently has a XL slide on an Icarus Precision XMacro lower. It has an MCarbo trigger, springs and striker, a Ballistic Advantage threaded barrel, and Taran Tactical mag extensions. We've also sighted it with a Holosun 407K so he's shooting limited optics with it. Its not much of a Sig any longer but it's got 15k+ rounds through it now and it's been extremely reliable.
Mine has the MCARBO trigger and spring kit as well. Beyond that, it's currently on the Icarus Air grip module, has Tyrant takedown lever and slide catch, Align Tactical mag release, custom comped and ported slide, and FDEZ Werx ported barrel. It started as the SAS model 😂😂😂
@@oddballgunman5288 how do you like the Mcarbo trigger etc, was it worth it and is it easy to install? I'm assuming it's the flat one
@@JJ_SDWR definitely worth it! The small FCU's are a bit tricky to disassemble and reassemble but it can be done. I recommend taking it to a gunsmith unless you're comfortable doing it. There are instructional videos. In my opinion, definitely less travel to the wall and less travel to the reset. Feels lighter overall but the spring kit is mostly to blame for that. Very close to a 4lb trigger and still smoothing out some. With more rounds it will probably feel more like 3.5.
@@oddballgunman5288 thanks for the feedback. Did you go from curved trigger to straight trigger too, or was it only the weight that changed?
@@JJ_SDWR I got the straight trigger
I just want to thank you for all of your videos. It was about a year or so ago when I first got into the gun world, a little late in life at 45 but hey, better late than never in this crazy world. You are the first person I saw a video from and have followed you ever since. As a matter of fact, the first pistol I ever bought, 365XL, was on your suggestion of how good it was and it has served me well so far(luckily, no life altering events yet). Just wanted to throw that out there, I still watch all of your videos and reviews, and if I go to buy something, I look to see if you've checked it out first for performance first. Keep up the good work sir, and thank you for all the helpful information over the last year or so.
I am an Sig fan. When the 365 came out I went into a local gun store put my hands on one and I hated the way it felt. Within less than a minute, based on the way it fell in my hand, I decided I did not want this pistol. I handed it back and did not think about any more…., until….., you kept making videos about the different models and bragging on the gun…., over and over. This model that model and so on.
Given the fact that I value your opinion, because I believe you provide honest reviews, I gave the gun another look. I went to a gun range and rented a 365 that had both a 10 and 12 round mag. After about two boxes of range ammo and one box of self-defense ammo I ended up buying the package that came with three 12 round mags. The Sig 365 is a good shooter and a great option.
Thank you for the reviews as well as the time and effort you and your wife put in on this content. You guys rock.
I would love to see you do a top 5 or 10 with the M&P series. Love your content!
I 100% agree
Facts
I have them all, and the P365X set up is my favorite. 12rd grip frame from the XL with 3.1" barrel. Super comfortable to conceal and easy to get good grip.
Trigger in legion is the same in Xmacro and XL
yes
You are 100% correct. The legion has the exact same X trigger as all of the X and XL models have. I guess Sig thought since it was already the upgraded trigger option over the original curved trigger they didn’t need to gussy it up anymore than they already had…
I went with the P365X for my carry gun and it's been wonderful. The XL frame fits my hand super well, the flat face trigger is nice, and the standard P365 slide satisfied my tism of wanting it to be even with the frame. Best of all, zero malfunctions so far, surprisingly shootable!
Look into the Mag guts kit for your mags. I carry the 365x with the mag guts kit for mine. 2 extra rounds in your stock mags and zero length added to the magazine. 14+1 is sweet.
What holster do you go with?
My micro p365 with it's 10 round mag, is the ultimate, reliable, CC handgun in the world! I've put thousands of rounds through it without one fail. It's completely stock! No special barrel, no Magna porting, no special trigger, no light, no dot and I dedicated all my time to shooting it with the 10 round mag, even though my hands are large. After months and months of training, I can now say I'm a proficient with it as a sharp shooter. Thank you Sig for the best and last CC handgun I'll even own.
Right on. I feel the same way. I regret spending a bunch of money on guns before.-Take care, God bless
@@ShawnShipstad thanks Shawn. I spend all my money on ammo now, not guns.
Nice review of all the P365's. Something here for everyone.
love the awesome P365 in both original and XL versions. Hard to beat for the features and price
Thanks for the video!
We love our P365XL's. They are a great gun for summer carry. Not too small and not too big.
but not a winter carry huh, nor fall, nor spring?
@@teamtalib1209 Ok, "hot weather" carry. We prefer to go larger when we can in the winter like a CZP01 or a Sig 229. If I could only afford one carry gun, I would go with the P365XL.
is it better than a macro
@@microplasticsinurblud We've tried the 365 and the 365XL. We 've never tried the macro, but we have considered it for a winter carry option. I think for us, the grip would be too long to conceal in the summer. I have to imagine that it would be a good choice if you can conceal it.
@@S3145 thanks for the info. i live in a hot place so summer carry is necessary
Just got a P365 two days ago. It wasn’t until I got home that I realized it came with all 12 Round magazines and Optic Ready. It really can do it all.
Being an FFL I rotate out my carry several times a year. Of all Sigs I’d have to say the P365XL Spectre Comp is my favorite. BUT my favorite overall is the Hellcat RDP. It’s the only one I haven’t gotten rid of. The hellcat grips feel a bit bigger or beefier and easier for me to hold even though they are both 1 inch wide. I find most men agree when given the option to compare.
Now I’m just waiting on the Hellcat Pro Comp to be delivered.
Good review… I have an X as my carry and an X-macro as my duty and I’m very happy with both of them. Separately, I must say how impressed I am with Mrs Outlaw as I watch her manage the recoil. I think her grip is likely better than mine. Kudos and blessings!
I carry what started life as an unported X Macro. It now has a Wilson Combat XL frame and magazines with Mag Guts kits. 14+1. It's the only Sig i like.
P365 Xmacro Comp, Holosun 407k, and tlr7 sub with Antimatter Micro-Wing. Got back to shooting after 20+ years and had more trouble controlling the snap than I like to admit. Micro-wing was a game changer and I’m loving this thing now!
You can use 17 round mags in the xl. The magazine comes with different size adapters for different length grips.
LOVE LOVE LOVE my P365 Legion!!
I haven't pulled the trigger yet, but I'm planning on getting an XL and buy the smaller frame and see which I prefer. I like the flexibility of the platform. Thanks for this video
I like your pun there😂
I have the P322. The Taurus TX22 and the new TX22 TORO optics ready beats it hands down. I never shoot my P322 now, only the TX22s. Taurus may have some ‘cheap’ connotations, but they got the TX22 exactly right . . .
You're the first person I've heard say that. I have a bunch of buddies that had the tx22 and switched over to the 322
Same. I had a 322 and compact tx22, sold the sig. Taurus 22 is amazing and never fails to go bang. About to pick up the new toro version full-size next, can’t beat it for the price.
@@patrickallen2943 If you get it soon it should still qualify for the 3 free mag rebate as well! I am normally not a big fan of gun rebates as it seems like they usually take forever, and half the time never receive them. Well in this case i got the approval back in just a couple weeks, and my 3 free mags are on their way as we speak. So you end up with FIVE mags and the TX22TORO for under $300. Cant beat that!
Just got the X Macro TacOps a couple weeks ago. Absolutely in love with it
Good for you. Enjoy and be safe.
I cant stress this enough, look into the mag guts guts kits for them. Adds 2 rounds of capacity for the stock mags without adding a single mm of length. 14+1 in my 365x edc.
Great video!
I have two of these pistols (.380 & X-Macro).
I added the Radian Weapons Backstrap & Magwell to my X-Macro. Wow! What an excellent addition to an already controllable pistol!
Love the range on your property. You’re the man. Awesome video. Very impressive
I own a P365 XL with a Romeo 0 sight and 12 round magazine. Thin, light, accurate and enough fire power. I guess that Sig are getting better with their later versions. Graet video
The original P365 can be picked up for a song, and the extended magazine dramatically increases capacity. Enhances the grip, too, as I have large hands and a big frame. I think I have a 17+1 ammo store, and to know I don't even need to carry a spare mag to deal with multiple threats? Awesome.
I wish it had the flat trigger that my P320 X10 has, but I like the stock trigger. Having converted from the rather grainy HK 45C triggers, it's perfectly acceptable.
Love your channel. Thank you for your efforts.
I know. Work work work. All that shooting must leave you exhausted.
4:03 FYI, you can easily load 21rds on a 20rd mag for a total of 21+1 in the P322. Also, the P322 is not striker fire, it’s actually internal hammer
Just got the Tacops, love the way it fits in the hand! Also love that for some reason it comes with 4 mags.
I’d love to see a photo of the p365 Tacops next to a p228 Tacops
I carry the regular 365 slide with the Wilson combat x/xl grip.
the XL is the best compact pistol I've ever shot. The accuracy is just outstanding
Agreed. Put a Holosun 507 on mine and have never carried a better pistol. Never go anywhere without it.
@PilgrimPrepper I am more accurate at 25 meters ith my XL than my G34. I think that trigger and that crisp break at the middle of the usual travel on other gun help me a lot to have great results With it
P365 XL also has the best versatility on converting it to other configurations. Slide can work with 10r mag grip module, 12r grip module, or even convert it to a Macro grip module holding 17r.
I would argue the Shield Plus is the most accurate pistol period I’ve ever shot. But the P365 is the OG subcompact.
Love my 365XL and specter comp, love my 365 AXG Legion.. love how my macro shoots but didn’t love the trigger, who’s reset spring fell off.. maybe it was a lemon? It always felt “crunchy”, ratcheting thru the pull-haven’t gotten to try it since repaired. They’re ALL very accurate!
I have the P365 XL Spectre. Absolutely love it. Got the holosun 507k, tlr7 sub, and Magguts +2 base plate. Over 3k rds thru it so far.....been carrying for going on 2 yrs now.
How has the reliability been with those Magguts +2 kits? 14 + 1 rounds in that size package sounds awesome, but not if they don't reliably feed.
I bought the p365 standard about a year after it came out. With the standard length Wilson Combat grip and tungsten weights and a 12 round mag with an extension to make it equivalent to a 365 X. Kicks much less and is gripable.
I really respect the XL. The standard 365 is just too small for me.
One of my carry pistols is an XL with the Sig micro dot. It works well.
Is it a good as a Spector Comp? No. But I got it cheap.
I hope Sig releases a non-comp version of the P365 AXG Legion - like the TACOPS. I prefer the 3.7 barrel and no comp when I carry. Ibused to carry the original X-Macro comp but for me, the TACOPS version shoots better.
Love my 365XL, best all around Pistol I've ever owned. The Shield plus is a close second, but it is second imo.
I think for most it's a grip feel in this category.
I have the AXG Legion and use as my EDC and also shoot IDPA with it. My wife has the rose edition and after I shot her gun, I started looking for a sig pistol for myself. I am usually a Walther guy, though after shooting the AXG, I might have to add a few more Sig's to my collection.
Got the standard X Macro, loved it but a bit big to carry with the handle length.
Swapped out the frame for a Wilson Combat XL version and it’s become my favorite carry gun.
Basically a cheaper version of the spectre comp!
I prefer more punch than 9mm, but my P365XL + HS507K are definitely growing on me. The Sig front sight tritium insert popped out so I switched to Trijicon HD sights which are just tall enough to cowitness with the red dot.
After getting my spectre comp, I have pretty much ignored my others. I shoot it better than my beretta and it's more comfortable than my m&p 2 compact. Awesome device!
I’ve gone from the Spectre Comp to the 365-380 and back to the Spectre Comp for my EDC. A bit expensive for an EDC but worth every damn penny!
Have you ever considered shooting the Sig 365 with the Wilson Combat short grip module? This takes it up from 10+1 to 17+1?
I took a stock P365 and used a Wilson Combat trigger module and a Mcarbo flat blade trigger and spring kit, with a HOLOSUN 507k (Green) and Suppressor height sights. Now it's my favorite gun to carry
First I bought a P365XL and then a Hellcat Pro. Didn't like the Hellcat Pro's trigger so I sold it and bought another P365XL. Then I bought a FCU and a P365XL Spectre Comp slide.😁 You know where I'm going! I had a leftover complete P365XL upper so I had to do another P365XL build. 😂 Mess around with the P365 and the modularity is inevitably unavoidable. 😘
I wanted something small, light, easy to conceal, and with an adequate capacity. I’m a Glock guy through and through but I find myself primarily carrying the P365. The real game changer was the Wilson Combat XL grip module. COMPLETELY changed the feel in my hand, almost like it’s molded for them and I have large hands(use large backstrap on my G45). Plus with the 12 round factory mags, more capacity than the 43x. I will still carry the 43X from time to time but that little P365 is hard to beat.
Yup, the Wilson combat XL module works great on the X macro...makes it carry a little smaller
I’m surprised Mrs. Outlaw hasn’t made you buy her the P365 Rose XL Comp… It’s essentially the Spectre Comp dressed up for women and about $300 cheaper with a Lifepod lock box. I bought one for my secretary as a bonus gift and I’ve shot it every time I’ve taken her to the range to practice so she can get her CCW, and I love it! I own the original P365 (all Wilson Combat Gucci’d up, WC grip module and WC custom slide work, WC sights and the Gray Guns trigger from WC), I also have the AXG Legion, and I previously had the XMacro Comp (traded that in on the AXG), but the point of my rambling is to say, I liked my secretary’s Rose XL Comp so much that I’m now going to get myself the Spectre Comp to be my EDC!
So you prefer the Spectre comp over the X Macro and AXG Legion? I have the Spectre Comp it’s my EDC but I’ve been thinking about getting the Legion or Macro and putting a light and EPS Carry for home defense
@@justin5421if you’re wanting the AXG Legion or XMacro COMP for “home defense” then I say “yes” definitely get one for the higher capacity being home invaders are usually not alone… However, for EDC, in my opinion and my opinion only, unless you have a larger frame with more area to conceal the 17 round grip on the MACRO and Legion they have a tendency to print way to much for my liking. The only time I could conceal my MACRO was in the cooler months under a jacket, even a loose sweater allowed more printing than I like when bending over or reaching up to get stuff off shelves when shopping and such.
After I traded in my MACRO for my Legion I never even wasted the money on getting a holster for the Legion, I keep it either in a lock box by my bed for home defense or in a lock box in my desk at the office, but I have never and don’t ever plan to carry it.
Like I said I currently carry the standard 10 round OG P365 and whether I carry appendix or 3:00 it never prints even with just a loose T-shirt on… I tried my secretary’s Rose XL in my normal carry holster and with the 12 round grip module and I had virtually the same results as the 10 round grip module, so that’s why I’m going to get a Spectre COMP, because despite what the “haters” say I love how the integrated comp takes away virtually all of the snappiness of the non-comped P365s.
In all honesty, if I had the body size to conceal a MACRO or the AXG Legion, I’d probably carry my Legion, but unfortunately I don’t. But as far as shoot-ability difference between the Rose XL COMP and the XMACRO COMP I couldn’t tell the difference and that’s why I want the Spectre COMP because it’s basically the masculine version of the Rose XL COMP with the only real difference being the slide serrations and lightning cuts which are more aesthetic than performance enhancements…
@@SM-xy8iw thank you for the insights, very helpful!
You can't go wrong with the Spectre Comp in my opinion. It's my EDC since they came out.
When they came out with the Spectre Comp I picked it up ran about 500 rounds through it with zero malfunctions and been carrying it ever since. I still carry a p365 when I need something really concealable but thats about it. Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
P365x has been my daily carry for the last couple years. Excellent gun. I installed a compensator and EPS carry. I have plans to get other versions and a p320 variant down the road.
A couple of weeks ago, I bought a used Sig 365X with the older optics ready slide (The screws are under the slide and go into the underside of the rear sight.). I put a Holosun EPS-CARRY (green reticle) and a Streamlight TLR-7 Sub on it. Since I have had sciatica problems, the 365X has even replaced my Taurus 856UL as my "sciatica gun." First shot after I added the accessories cut between the upper arms of the X at 15 yards. So far, it doesn't like 12+1 carry with the only stoppages being when a full 12 round magazine was inserted after chambering a round. Since I'm carrying twice as many rounds as I did with the 856, I can live with it. It's the only Sig I own. My GTW/SHTF gun is a S&W M&P9 2.0 5" FDE.
I put my xmacro comp slide on my XL to carry. I like how you can interchange almost everything
I put a Wilson Combat grip module and a Tyrant CNC trigger on my X Macro and while I'm not a seasoned enough shooter to say the trigger is a big improvement, the grip module definitely is.
Gotta try the Ramm Tactical Trigger… night & day difference. If you like Wilson Combat grip module, you’ll like the ShaloTek grip module better…
I love your channel. I can't wait to hear what you think about the Fuse
I've been happy with my p365x with a Wilson Combat grip and Holosun 507k. Been thinking of getting the XL Spectre Comp slide.
I’m pretty sure the trigger is exactly the same throughout the models including the legion. It’s literally the same FCU. I chatted with sig last year about the spectre comp asking the same thing about the gold trigger. According to them, same trigger. Thanks for the vid, Chris!
Well maybe they said that but I have both and there is no comparison. At least it seems that way to me.
When we were finally able to purchase a P365 in California I wasted no time going to my local dealer. I got a screaming deal on the Romeo X compact red dot and together it is a knockout for my EDC plus it’s so very accurate.
Your number 1 is my EDC as well. I find it really comfortable plus I have enough ammo in each mag. I been wanting a Legion but not sure if I even need to buy it since I have the Comp.
I just ordered the P365 axg legion. Waiting on it to come in. Can’t wait.
How do you like it?
@@hurdlin86 Its a great shooting gun, carries well. I have buyers remorse because of the price but it is a very nice gun.
Just bought the X Macro Comp yesterday as a Father’s Day present to myself. Can’t wait to get it to the range. ( after I get my Wilson Combat frame for it.)
Gotta check out the ShaloTek grip module too…
I've got 4 different p365 and the p322. I love them all
Just got a Spectre Comp. A lot of th and motivation was several of your mentions of it.
Instructive video, as I'm deciding which P365 to get, leaning towards the X. One thing that's great, I saw on the Sig website the standard P365 does in fact come optic ready.
Macro Grip module and Shalotek "XXL" slide with threaded barrel for me personally, the same barrel length and capacity as a glock 17, but thinner and easier to carry. I literally forget I'm carrying it half the time.
Great job with this review. I bought a 365x macro as my first handgun and am very happy with it
I currently have the radian metal back strap and mag well on the original xmacro w/ a TLR 7 sub, and tax dev spacer and pro ledge. That setup provides real estate and weight in the right places on a small gun.
Mine is a P365xl .... Optic is a Holosun EPS Carry, added a Wilson Combat grip module and a True Precision threaded barrel. Carry in a Safariland Species holster.
I love my p365 x that I modded into a Spectre comp with a Wilson combat module with tungsten weights and a magguts magazine for that 14+1 out of a 12+1 mag. So easy to edc and amazing to shoot!
I have two. A micro-9mm and a micro-.380 . Both have 12 round magazines and are very compact. Accurate, best stock trigger Ive ever had "Shield + is close" and have both been flawless. These are pure CCW guns tho the .380 is a gas. I'm getting old and am a retired PO and cant carry a full size anymore, "on occasion a G29 ;-)". My carry load for 9mm is 124 grn HST +P. For .380 I carry 90 grn SIG Elite JHP.
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Crazy that the p365 Fuse comes out after your top 5 p365 video. My favorite gun ever, I own three. Endless possibilities to change the firearm constantly and always runs.
got one on the way, maybe it'll outdo some of these
@@HonestOutlawReviews thanks for the reply. I’ve been watching your videos for years now since the table top reviews; been awesome seeing how big y’all got. You’ve been a core root foundation to my success in firearms, to owning everything from a shadow 2 to p30L, and continuing to teach me about new firearms. I don’t have any social media so I’m not as involved, but thanks for everything. Stay blessed and stay safe y’all.
Awesome review, thank you. I didn't know about the P322. I'll have to check one out. I'm loving to shoot again but it is getting expensive. If I can get great practice and fun plinking too, I'll have to get a P322! Thanks again! Y'all have a great Sunday and a Happy Father's Day! God Bless Y'all 🤠
P322 is nice. I still love my Taurus TX22s though. Both are great
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i want to like the 365 series, i really do. i tried the comped xmacro at my range and i was hitting every round out of the box without fail. i just can't jive with the expensive mags and the vocal population with reliability issues
Love my p365! I just got the tlr 7 sub, so im stoked to try that out soon.
Thank you! You are becoming my go-to resource when considering new purchases.
I got the 365 in 380 but I run the mischief machines alpha frame with 12 round mags
I just got the x macro comp this weekend and I gotta say its absolutely incredible. Got an icarus precision grip on the way and I cant wait to get some more rounds through this thing. I have a staccato CS but carrying it with the big beaver tail is less than ideal so im happy ive got the sig now.
I thought i heard the axg 365 does NOT have an upgraded trigger. Same standard fcu. I could be wrong. Love the channel
Same as the Custom Works FCU…
I am considering purchasing a P365, and was wondering if Sig has resolved the issues you mentioned with the spring as mentioned in your original 1000 round review.
Thank you for making this review! My wife likes the P365 due to the small frame. I'm going to get it for her as a CC.
I bought the p365 XL originally and now I got the X Macro grip module it was easy to transfer the fcu
The AXG Legion will be my edc for years to come! It’s a perfect carry size weapon for me..and it’s a SWEET shooter
Great vid! Mine is configured with a spectre comp slide with suppressor height night sights, X-macro grip module with the tac ops magwell and an IMT adjustable flat trigger. It's a chef's kiss of a gun.
I started with the OG P365.
I kept the OG frame (for concealment) and the XL slide.
I carry the SAS ported every day. 10rd flush fit in the stack. 1 or 2 factory 12rd with MagGuts 14rd conversions.
Seriously tho. I was good with the 938.
I have the Wilson combat version. Very nice upgrade to them. I am looking at the Legion
I have an P365x with 12 and mostly 17 round magazines plus a 507k red dot and really love it. My hand size is medium so it has a slightly larger frame than the regular P365 but also slightly smaller than the x-Macro and its fancier cousins. Like you said, plenty to choose from. Great video. Would like to see a S&W Performance Center best 5 video too!
Thanks for the review, i never loved my p290rs mainly breakdown was always a pita
The icarus frame is also awesome in an alumiun frame.
I'm guessing the Fuse wasn't out yet when this list was made? Would love to hear where the Fuse comes in on this list!
I have the spectre comp with the aluminum Icarus grip and love it. I would have went with the legion to add to my 229 legion but it wasn’t available 2 years ago. Hands down favorite EDC ever and the capability to go with 12rd when I am printing cations or the 17 with looser clothes is a huge plus. It’s my mini 229, all metal and awesome.
And people still say he is a sig hater. He just has a bad rap with the 320. I personally love sig and the 320 and 365 but he has shown some of the PAST issues of the 320. They are not relevant now. Great video and great job outlaw
Love the video. I know you don't do a whole lot of customization, but I wish you would do a video on a fully decked out 365, like a custom built. Icarus precision macro grip, Shalotek or FDez werkz xxl comped slide, which uses the 3.9 inch barrel and is still comped. It's awesome, and I'd love to see you shoot one customized in this fashion.
I'm not usually into Hogue grips but if you dislike how thin the XL frame is, I found the Hogue sleeve to be a perfect "fattener" for it. Super cheap hack
Headed to gun store today to put these different guns in my hand to see what would be best for me. Im a novice but my guess is that would just get an XL and modify it over time. Better to have a stock gun then no gun at all.
Yep! I run p365xL W/10 round leg grip, handles 9mm I have a P320 compact l😮 in 40 S&W & another full size in 45acp! My old P250 handles 357 sig!! so much for one chaise and multiple calibers🤷♂️ oh well!!
Thanks for your review. I started on the P365X and then got an XL comp for it. It holds its own against the other models I've tried. Your review may cause me to build another.
Nice overview! I have an OG P365 with optics cut and safety, which I pocket carry. Even with the flat baseplate, I get a good grip with my average/large hand. Being my carry pistol, it is also my favorite pistol!
While the P365 is a very refined chassis, 10+ round micro-9, it was not the first with these features. That was the Kel-Tec P11, which was my carry for many years--until I got my P365, which is worlds beyond the K-T!
Just found your channel. Love the content.
Love the MacroX Tac Ops and the spectre comp! How much did the spectre comp retail for? ❤️ Great video 📹 ❤
I just got myself the P365 XL ROSE COMP and can’t wait to pick it up in a few weeks. They say it’s made for “girls” but that thang is too damn beautiful not to get for myself haha. Hopefully you can do a video on that one yourself one day. Great videos!
After buying my 1st Sig, a X Macro-Comp which I really like, today I bought the original 10 rd p 365, out the door 480.00 very happy camper.
Out the door for $480? Damn where’d you get that? If it was new you absolutely robbed that salesman.
@@nicko9725 L&M Bemidji Mn. They had them on clearance till gone 449.00. Had few more left as of few days ago L&M in Grand Rapids Mn.
I have the Macro and it’s at the top of my carry rotation with only the H&K VP9SK slightly nudging it 🙌🏾