Crazy affordable Sabaj A30a integrated amp.

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    Gear used or mentioned in this video
    Sabaj A30a integrated amp
    SMSL A1 class A amp
    Moon 300D DAC
    Silverline Sonata speakers
    Focal 1008BE speakers
    Harbeth M30.1 speakers
    Buchardt S400 speakers
    Synthesis Melody speakers
    SMSL Tabebuia speakers
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  • @JosephTongret
    @JosephTongret ปีที่แล้ว +75

    I could listen to Thomas talk philosophically about hifi all day long. It's like he just opens his mouth and out pours a conscious stream of his thoughts, digging down into the many different ways to view a product. I really don't know if that's the best way to say it, but he's so unique in his style and I just love to listen to him. Ty Thomas 👍

    • @dilbyjones
      @dilbyjones ปีที่แล้ว

      He knows his stuff

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lol, thanks a lot Joseph, you made my day better.

    • @latheofheaven
      @latheofheaven ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I could listen to Thomas read the ingredients on a Ramen box...

    • @rolandlickert2904
      @rolandlickert2904 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Im not surprised I own a integrated amp D and with the right speakers they sound great .Had a few system in my over 50 years of HiFi journey and technology is moving fast. Im looking forwards not backwards and at my age you looking for convenience,practically,all in one box will do the trick to me. Lets be honest once you 74 years old your hearing is not as good as when you were younger.Great to see gear for an affordable price that will be interesting particularly for the younger crowd

    • @Smood47
      @Smood47 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He is an audiophile monk listening to full range speakers at the top of a mountain and you have to do a pilgrimage to see him.

  • @Khans-c4j
    @Khans-c4j ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I am using this amp for the last 2 years now .. no issues .. it sounds great all the time. it's reliable.

    • @yonahangelov1973
      @yonahangelov1973 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi! I have that amp because of this review since last summer, but I'm not quite satisfied. Would you tell me what speakers are you using? I listen to it in a small room and I contemplate on Focal Theva 1... What do you think?

  • @kamol402
    @kamol402 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I didn't knew that I could listen to these videos for such long time

  • @timlamadrid1988
    @timlamadrid1988 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    It doesn’t need a DAC because it IS a DAC. This type of amp is also known as a power DAC. It takes the digital signal and modulates it and feeds it to the power output chips directly.

    • @jacobcarstens
      @jacobcarstens ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess that’s why the analog input actually needs an ADC before the amplification stage, not just because of the DSP - fascinating

    • @timlamadrid1988
      @timlamadrid1988 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jacobcarstens Exactly!

    • @cameronkrause4712
      @cameronkrause4712 ปีที่แล้ว

      good reply!

    • @kalunvinka
      @kalunvinka ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, DAC is a chip. There are different tiers of chips. It is as much as saying your computer has a onboard video chip and you do not need an separate graphics card.

    • @Luca84v
      @Luca84v ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So it is not possible to add an external DAC right?!

  • @jw_just_a_guy
    @jw_just_a_guy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have the SabaJ A30a paired finally with Elac unified reference 62 speakers. I love the system.

  • @daveyurkovich9459
    @daveyurkovich9459 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That’s what I love about you Mr. Galion…your ability to put things into perspective in a thoughtful easy to understand manner. ✌️

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks, I just hope people can understand that they need to manage their expectations properly in function of the price. This will not outperform high end integrated amp but for the price, it is very good especially to those who are not sensitive to glare.

  • @petermartin9494
    @petermartin9494 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The block diagram means among other things that it converts an analog signal to digital and is then able to process it with bass/treble controle, etc.

  • @phantomplastics6582
    @phantomplastics6582 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been listening to the new Peachtree GaN1 - it's phenomenally transparent and replaces my high end system at less than the cost of the interconnects alone.

    • @deepee1544
      @deepee1544 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello, is the GaN1 an integrated amplifier?

  • @gordonlesforis772
    @gordonlesforis772 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes I agree
    Let's bring back tone controls Ido miss them

  • @fungt89
    @fungt89 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I bought one. At first i was a bit disappointed playing it off bluetooth or through analog and then i plugged it in with the usb. Holy crap the amp came alive. I use it with the loudness 2 or 3 eq with a bump on the treble. Thanks thomas. Ur comments in the burson video made me confident that i was at the worst going to get an amp worth $400 and now im enjoying music.

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว

      What was even more suprising is that it actually sounds its best with DSD files.

    • @fungt89
      @fungt89 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThomasAndStereo yeah i though there was no way theres a difference between dsd and flac but listening to a jamiroquai album everything is better from the seperation to the detail of the double bass. More investigation needed but i mighg be a dsd fan now 🎉

    • @deepee1544
      @deepee1544 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      May I ask, what is your source connected to USB?

    • @youtubiers
      @youtubiers ปีที่แล้ว

      How does it sound with pcm music upsampled to DSD via PC?

  • @ernesttricarico6402
    @ernesttricarico6402 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You've been able to insert excitement back into audio for me and that's a difficult task

  • @robk5745
    @robk5745 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Happy little known companies are getting air time with guys like you Thomas, it’s one of my favourite things to hear about when good companies making amazing products get some recognition. Doesn’t sabaj have a class d monoblock too?

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am not sure but it would be interesting.

    • @jungtarcph
      @jungtarcph ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would say they are quite a big company, but yes and cool with affordable audio! Wish it had a preout for being used as dac & preamp or powered sub with filter

    • @michaelbooth6007
      @michaelbooth6007 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ThomasAndStereo I have the Sabaj 10a model amp which can be bridged for higher power output ( class d ). I bought two 10a's and I would describe the output sound in a similar fashion as Thomas's description here.

  • @HungryEatNow
    @HungryEatNow ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm merely 5 years old into the hobby and I had played countless budget gears, once I gave up a hegel 95 for a similar chinese digital amp which was my greatest mistake. Thomas is absolutely spot on that such amp is really for fun. IMO they severely lacks air and life in the vocals. But they do shine on TV watching, it's really impactful and dynamic. So you have been warn, stay away if you love vocalist songs

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Forsure if you go from a $2k Hegel 95, you will be disappointed. The Sabaj does not have air nor does it excel in vocal. As yo said, fun and dynamic. NOW, if you want something that might make you go 'What!', try the SMSL A1, that is probably the exception to the rule in the world of budget chinese amps.

    • @HungryEatNow
      @HungryEatNow ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ThomasAndStereo I'm not looking to fried an egg with my equipment lol...

    • @alanrogs3990
      @alanrogs3990 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThomasAndStereo What do you think of Opera Consonance?

  • @TorToroPorco
    @TorToroPorco ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The most useful thing any prospective audiophile can do is to listen to a variety of high end systems even if they can’t afford them. It provides a useful reference when they evaluate components to acquire. This is one of the reasons why I find Thomas to be a use source of information especially since he elicits the opinions of his high end audio friends. But if one can experience at least some of what high end audio can provide it will make Thomas’s reviews even more relatable.

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, the hard part is for me to talk about this amp objectively. If you spent a lot of time with high end gear, it is really easy to pick this amp apart. In fact, I shared that on my patreon page. However, if we stand back and look at the big picture, we can give a more objective view.

  • @rodm1949
    @rodm1949 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your insight is great, there are so many options and doing it neatly/simply as possible is desireable. Your idea of a valve preamp was on my mind which can be added or removed easily given the desire.

  • @dougg1075
    @dougg1075 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes on tone controls!

  • @williamdirks5805
    @williamdirks5805 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yay! A movement to bring back tone controls!! How could anyone have ever been *against* them to begin with (provided you can switch them out)? I'll sign that petition.

    • @latheofheaven
      @latheofheaven ปีที่แล้ว

      Uh Oh... Looks like we need another intervention! 😁

    • @williamdirks5805
      @williamdirks5805 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@latheofheaven For me, or for Thomas?

    • @latheofheaven
      @latheofheaven ปีที่แล้ว

      @@williamdirks5805 For everyone concerned! 😀

  • @ThomasAndStereo
    @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
    @tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice Job Thomas thanks for the video

  • @danmarjenka6361
    @danmarjenka6361 ปีที่แล้ว

    14:55 to 15:10 Thomas practicing to be the badass protagonist in the next blockbuster movie. Your reviews are great, Thomas.

  • @hachtmeister
    @hachtmeister ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Thomas, thanks for the great Video. I just ordered the A30a from HiFi Express :)

  • @laiguilleetlefeu3240
    @laiguilleetlefeu3240 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The color of the amp should match the speakers spec for many audiophiles BUT a well made amp normally doesn't colored the sound at all. The most important feature for an amp is how it handle power. A lot of amps are too light in power to handle speakers properly.

  • @layers442
    @layers442 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just bought one to give it a shot.
    Hope it works well with my ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2. 🤞
    Thanks for the great review as always.

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As long as you understand that it is a fun amp to listen to, not refined like the SMSL A1, and have your expectations managed, you should be fine. Let me know how that combo sounds, I am curious too. do let it break in a bit.

    • @dannydrugable
      @dannydrugable ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How did it work?

  • @rotaks1
    @rotaks1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What’s with hearing the saliva! Picky eater amp! Man, this episode is a blast! Loved it!

  • @JoelOman1980
    @JoelOman1980 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about pairing with the Triangle Borea BR03? Soft dome, lots of bass and high sensitivity (90dB)... Would that be a nice match? (I've recently sold my current system, all but the speakers, so I'm looking for something affordable that sounds "nice"... ☺)

    • @navidn1353
      @navidn1353 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      that's my question too.

  • @dans550
    @dans550 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought an emotiva basx a2 for 450, and it is excellent

  • @marklawrence4116
    @marklawrence4116 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have one of these Thomas
    It's Super Incredible

  • @RJ_Chicago
    @RJ_Chicago ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi Thomas, something is happening in HiFi. Is it a paradigm shift or a sea change? It is something. I got rid of my Bryston 28B3 monoblock beasts and now have a collection of Class D and some GaN Class D amps that I love. They are not missing a single thing compared to Class AB. Also besides Sabaj, Aiyima is making kick@ass gear not just for the money. Take for instance the Aiyima A07 amp. This thing is cheap and plays great out of the box. But for only $80USD you can replace the stock IC op amps with a Sparkos Labs discrete op amp and get a further non-subtle improvement. So quality is increasing and price to get that quality is decreasing.

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WOW, that is incredible! My friend has the Bryston cube and they do sound amazing. Yeah, the GaN class D is very good.

    • @RJ_Chicago
      @RJ_Chicago ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThomasAndStereo I want to be clear. I am not saying that Aiyima gear is better than Bryston. I am saying it is excellent for the money. Plus you can put the A07 in your pocket and buy it on Amazon, whereas the Bryston 28B3 weighs like 90+lbs and will kill your back or your house trying to move it. What I think IS fair to say is that my Jeff Rowland Model 125 Class D monoblocks, my AGD Audion GaN mono blocks and my Orchard Audio Starkrimson Ultra with high power upgrades do sound AT LEAST as good as the Bryston beasts. I don’t miss those beasts for a second. You can’t switch them out. They are heavy as £&@! I am a fan of Class D. Can’t you tell? 😀

  • @stephenstevens6573
    @stephenstevens6573 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow!! Interesting! Thank you!

  • @riccitone
    @riccitone ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man…these reviews are always forward thinking, considerate of options, and on the money 🙏🏼
    My hope is that affordable improvements will still apply to the separates and not solely focus on all - in - one box solutions. I would still want to pair my current preamp with some highly refined and modern - yet affordable - mono blocks down the line.

    • @phantomplastics6582
      @phantomplastics6582 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try the Kinki Studio EX-B7 monoblocks. You can get them used at a nice price.

    • @madmatt151
      @madmatt151 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try the Sabaj A20a, they can be run at mono and at $200 each would be same as this

    • @riccitone
      @riccitone ปีที่แล้ว

      @@madmatt151 Those a pretty cool! Most reviewers say they’re ok sounding. Would be nice to try in a second system. Currently running a GoldNote PA 10 with an SPL Elector and loving it.
      I’m thinking something down the line that would eventually rival that SMSL class a amp, or most any amp above the 1-2k mark for that matter. It won’t be long!

  • @clipperjay1475
    @clipperjay1475 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am considering buying for testing my ears 👂. I believe these D class should be re classed as my days of D class mossfet feed amps are chalk and cheese with the newer chip designs that with combination of no distortions on dacs, have a competitive edge. China is literally rewriting the narrative.
    I have found two way speakers have some what clouded peoples perspective with flatness and too bright upper tweeter glare. A well designed three way crossover does help with the missing flatness generated by D class amps.
    My predictions Nad m23 is an example of what's to come take that how you like 😂

  • @jawito5378
    @jawito5378 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative and differentiated statements!

  • @Kartofeln2011
    @Kartofeln2011 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Хорошая компетентная подача материала. Однозначный лайк.

  • @fattnersgeekfile5478
    @fattnersgeekfile5478 ปีที่แล้ว

    great review my friend , thanks

  • @twitchbook-1
    @twitchbook-1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the lii audio speakers

  • @navidn1353
    @navidn1353 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was thinking of getting the IOTAVX SA3 for my BRO3s but I'm not sure anymore. I know SA3 is neutral, balanced, and mature sounding (Zero Fidelity), but I like exciting/dynamic-sounding amps as long as the top end is not harsh and the bass is not boomy, has texture, and doesn't bleed into the mid-range.

  • @daniellustgarten5857
    @daniellustgarten5857 ปีที่แล้ว

    After your review of the A1 i got one, that work's beautiful with my lS3/5 , now Im thinking of buying the Sabaj to integrate a SW to the system and do some tinkering just for fun ... after i finish the comment ill order my Sabaj.Thank you again ,for making this hobby enjoyable and fun , without emptying (totally ) our pockets .

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks, this Sabaj is not at the same level as A1 in terms of sound quality. It is ok to buy it as long you understand that you are getting a different kind of sound and that is maybe what you are looking for. It is more fun but not as refined and airy.

    • @kouichi4
      @kouichi4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you using 11 or 15 ohms version with the A1? Did you use it with a preamp?

    • @daniellustgarten5857
      @daniellustgarten5857 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kouichi4 11 ohms , use it with the DAC as a Pre-Amp , but the sound is really good, and Im an expat and my previous system was Nara amp. preamp and Avant-Garde 1 horns for speakers , and the incredible thing is that I don't miss it...

    • @geevee1045
      @geevee1045 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThomasAndStereo Can you tell us, is the SMSL VMV A1 also at a higher level in sound quality than the Schiit Aegir? Which do you prefer between those 2 amplifiers? And pls ignore the fact that the Aegir needs a volume controlled source. And thank you for your thoughtful guidance Thomas. Your website reviews are very interesting, unique and informative, as always.

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@geevee1045 I only heard the Aegir for 5 minutes so I don't know. Now Loic who had both told me, if you just use one, he felt the SMSL sound was better. Sorry, that is all I know.

  • @antonyharding5360
    @antonyharding5360 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review,
    May give one ago in the future.. Thank you for the heads up.
    Regards Antony. Warrington England..

  • @jimtek59
    @jimtek59 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Thomas, I thoroughly enjoy your informative and unbiased videos. I have a question about speaker matching since you give the impression this amp can be a little finicky in that department. My speakers are the Infinity Reference R253 towers and they sound great with my relatively inexpensive AIYIMA A08 PRO TPA3255 Class D amp. Should I expect similar and hopefully improved results with the A30a? Thank you and I'm looking forward to your reply.

  • @ManfromTellus
    @ManfromTellus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, I have been following your channel for some time and I really like your reviews. I just bought the Sabaj a30a amplifier. Do you think that the Kef LS50 would work well with it?

  • @paulinboston
    @paulinboston ปีที่แล้ว

    Thoughtful Review ... Good For You

  • @dieselphiend
    @dieselphiend ปีที่แล้ว

    Spot on opening sentiments.

  • @hoobsgroove
    @hoobsgroove ปีที่แล้ว

    Try a 1F aluminium polymer capacitor across the speaker terminals see how that sounds, that might get rid of the glare you don't like, possibly might need to put a resistor in series with the capacitor something like 14-20 ohms 5 Watts if it knocked it down too much!!

  • @stanislasflipo7214
    @stanislasflipo7214 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thomas, thank you for this review. I'm considering buying this amp, but I have klipsch speakers that need a relatively smooth and warm amp to sound best Would the sabaj be a good fit ?

    • @JoseFerreira-zb7wh
      @JoseFerreira-zb7wh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      go for the smsl vmv a1 instead!

  • @Simon_Hawkshaw
    @Simon_Hawkshaw ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your review and opinion. I would like to own a Sabaj A30a, but they are very scarce.

  • @Uuur10
    @Uuur10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I bought a Loxjie A30 based on measurements. I find it better than an early 2000s Teac and a recent Marantz AVR. In the spirit of uncluttering both are going on sale. IMO the traditional companies need to wake up.

    • @xcvbxcvb2179
      @xcvbxcvb2179 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had the DAC d30. Good bass and mids but flat and lifeless uppers.

    • @Uuur10
      @Uuur10 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xcvbxcvb2179 a DAC doesn't have a sound...

    • @yantrussart6584
      @yantrussart6584 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Uuur10 maybe it doesn't in your theoretical world, but in real life, they sure do. Go listen to stuff and come back when you know what you're talking about...

    • @Uuur10
      @Uuur10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yantrussart6584 I have: 4 DACs, in a $100-600 range, all sounding exactly the same. People attribute roles to electronics that are the job of an EQ. Clown audiophile world 🤡

  • @thomashoelgaard1785
    @thomashoelgaard1785 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi,
    Thanks for another interesting video.
    I’m your LS50 review you mentioned that they needed a “smooth” amp to counter their brightness/harshness. Would this qualify?

  • @soowat1190
    @soowat1190 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for a great vid.

  • @liamporter1137
    @liamporter1137 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well said and prediction.

  • @altops4490
    @altops4490 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Add prosound dsp and yeah

  • @tedthomas9809
    @tedthomas9809 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this review. Really helpful., I am looking for a " fun" but capable affordable speaker amp.

  • @weeragardens
    @weeragardens ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic review as always. Thanks.
    What is speaker cable you are using in this setup?

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is a DIY speaker cable that cost almost as much as the amp!

  • @richardbertin7302
    @richardbertin7302 ปีที่แล้ว

    great review, i was wondering how would the Sabaj A30a compare to rogue sphinx

  • @JoseFerreira-zb7wh
    @JoseFerreira-zb7wh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have any ideia how this compares vs the smsl sa400 (in terms of sound)? And with the vmv a2, also!

  • @goodsound4756
    @goodsound4756 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The way a System/Amp is able to reproduce the human voice (male vocals with body/female voice without brittle in the highs, no harshness in sibilants) is very important to me and that’s also the weak point of all class D amps I’ve ever heard to date. The Sabaj seems not to make a leap in that regard.

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are correct, the SMSL A1 would make more sense for you then.

    • @goodsound4756
      @goodsound4756 ปีที่แล้ว

      I almost bought one, also because a friend who has one recommended it, but for my speakers I need power/current. I bought a Swiss made Rowen Absolute One amp. Hard to get outside Switzerland, but worth the chase.

  • @outboardfun3353
    @outboardfun3353 ปีที่แล้ว

    You do great videos

  • @davel4449
    @davel4449 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice work

  • @dacajovanovic6379
    @dacajovanovic6379 ปีที่แล้ว

    BRAVO TOMAS

  • @The-Spotlight-Kid
    @The-Spotlight-Kid ปีที่แล้ว

    I heard the guy from Lyngdorf explain his amp, the same as shown here, on some long tube ad' or a tube vide. He said "This is better refered to as a 'Power-DAC' rather than a 'Power-Amp' " (or similar words to that precise effect) Then he explained why, all I could understand was, the D to A is done immediately before OR immediately after the power output devices, tho he said it's digital all the way to the speaker outputs, but surely, I thought ...but I'm no expert or even a reader-up of things audio-digital to dare say "there's got to be something to turn 44.1 thousand indevidual pieces of info arriving each second, info in terms of 1's & zeros or blips & spaces or light & dark intervals ...before the speakers, but wotever is going on, I've heard the Lyngdorf sound esp' good with it's room correction 'on' Very possibly on this site's test track (1of the best renditions that changed my "not liking it much" opinion. (i seem to remember, if I'm not getting mixed up) unfortunately, you can't ask questions on a tube speech so I didn't grasp how both these amps work without DACs but I did notice this budget amp sounding very good esp at it's price. I see on the block diagram, it has got a ADC on it's rca line-input like the Lyng' & the fact it scared you if even briefly is very telling, considering the big Mac's etc you're accustomed to, that's it's strongest telling point to me, along with the test track rendtion which if heard blind ...i'd never have guessed that cheap prise. "It's getting better all the time" as Lenon or MacCartney wrote /sang

  • @wmoore29
    @wmoore29 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be interesting if you A/B them with Sabaj A10d 2022 dac and their A10 or A20 amp

  • @allanwilmath8226
    @allanwilmath8226 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like the chip this amplfigier is built around combines most of the circuitry in to a single chip, from inputs to the outputs that connect directly to the power devices of the amplifier, thus a massive reduction in parts count.

  • @adawn7250
    @adawn7250 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Thomas, thanks for the sharing, can ask if your convenient to seggest integrated amp is best to pair with q acostic 3010s for room size of 3m by 4m room? Thanks 😂😂😂

  • @IvanVoloshin22
    @IvanVoloshin22 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only thing that saddens me in connection with my acoustics Pioneer S71 is that the protection works at a volume level above 65. Maybe the firmware will fix it.

  • @burmesebeef
    @burmesebeef ปีที่แล้ว

    as a frugal audio enthusiast, this is right up my alley!

  • @ranelime
    @ranelime ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting, thank you Thomas! Had the chance to play it with the KLH model 5? If so, how did this pairing sound? Thanks again.

    • @robertgruber982
      @robertgruber982 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would love to know this as well.

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No I did not but if you have a KLH Model 5, it would be a good idea to get a better amp for it. That is a great speaker.

    • @robertgruber982
      @robertgruber982 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThomasAndStereo I'm looking for an integrated or even pre/power seperates for about $3000 US. Been testing a few but haven't found the right one. Suggestions?

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@robertgruber982 If you are missing bass, why not get a subwoofer? What are you missing?

    • @robertgruber982
      @robertgruber982 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThomasAndStereo Not missing anything just looking for an integrated with good synergy with these speakers. The best I've heard is a Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum III but don't think I want the hassle of tubes. Currently listening to a Denon 1700 NE which is nice and full but not as defined in the bass as I might like. Listened to a Rotel 1592 MKII but found it overly harsh in the upper treble. Your Macintosh 6700 would be ideal but a little rich for my blood.

  • @The-Spotlight-Kid
    @The-Spotlight-Kid ปีที่แล้ว

    Highly interesting vid to myself as for 10'ish or more yrs, i'd often looked on eBay & saw in increasingly more of these 'knock off circuit designs of well regarded older gear' ...
    classic designs of the past & long past interested me as i started hi-fi listenening with great sounding vintage valve gear that was cheap s/h (until eBay prices went astronomical for genuine vintage Leaks, Radfords, Marantz, Quads etc, etc. & the other vintage classic makes) Most of those ads thsnkfully had good close-ups of their inners i.e. the most interesting part, the circuit & components inside. I've seen Chinese made Dartzeeling power-amps, Marantz pre's, Krell KSA'50 power-amp 'inspired' designs (tho with relatively tiny transformers compared to the original 2 x 1'KVA trannies) & pre-amps with phono stages designed on 'EAR' phono amps etc etc & always wondered how close they matched the original circuit designs they are based on. One thing I noticed was some models using the two halfs of one double triode** for each stereo channel (**e.g. 12AX7, 12AU7, etc, or ECC81 to ECC85's equivalents) where the originals used 2 double triodes, one for each channel, with each of their 2 internal triode sections paralleled which litterally halves that stage's output impedence (which is a fine & noble practice, but with the extra cost) Tho not all knock-offs did this in their pre amp sections. I feel I have a good handle on this gear now, I once considered that shang-Xeng (?) with the silly little valve window, and the Marantz knock off pre's looked good inside but I ended up spending triple on a few forum's well regaurded Ming Da 2A3 pre-amp, 2006 design, the newer ones with same model number are completely different & I wouldnt have bought that (with daft pseudo ballanced input trsnsformers but no ballanced output? Great video, & great subject indeed.

  • @paulgood2218
    @paulgood2218 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Kodak also invented the first digital sensor too was used in the first digital cameras and yet there marketing and failure to use the tech them selves .... Well we all know where Kodak is today

  • @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
    @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN ,THOMAS 🤗 AND YOUR 😎 COOL STORIES 👍
    AND SHARING YOUR HONEST OPINION, AND SHARING that this is the BEST TIME TO BE AN AUDIOPHILE 🤗💚💚💚

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      🖐

    • @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
      @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThomasAndStereo 👋 HI BACK, I hope you have been busy with your work and enjoying time with your family 🤗
      We just became grandparents for the first time on NOV. 3 a granddaughter ELEANOR FREYJA…ALL are doing well 😁💚💚💚

  • @lukarubinic4504
    @lukarubinic4504 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thomas did you compare sabaj a30a vs smsl vmv a2?! people saying that this is the same amp

  • @javiermiranda3474
    @javiermiranda3474 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review and comparison. Do you think mentioned amps will work/sound better with a dedicated preamp between them and a DAC, like the Topping Pre90? Some DACs have better performance at full 5v, for example, Topping D90SE & SABAJ A20d.

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For me, it might be too bright that combo. We are dealing with budget class D (digital amp) and I would try to make it as smooth as possible, not as revealing as possible.

    • @javiermiranda3474
      @javiermiranda3474 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThomasAndStereo thanks Thomas. I think you talked about the combination/pairing, but I was referring to the use or not of a preamp with such amps (or in general)

    • @waldoyew4247
      @waldoyew4247 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about ifi zen blue v2 will that pair well?

  • @backrack01
    @backrack01 ปีที่แล้ว

    From memory.. would u day this beats out the IOTAVX stack?

  • @roberthart9886
    @roberthart9886 ปีที่แล้ว

    First of your videos since I last left a message

  • @tomaszostrowski363
    @tomaszostrowski363 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, Do you have any proposal witch amplifier will be better in the same price level like sabaj a30a?

  • @zenmorris182
    @zenmorris182 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You need to test the bass management with a sub as it has high/low pass filter system

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว

      It only has low pass filter which is weird.

    • @zenmorris182
      @zenmorris182 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThomasAndStereo from the specs it should remove base from main speakers to stop double bass

  • @jamiljackson4779
    @jamiljackson4779 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you suggest some affordable speaker wire to use with an amp and speakers like this. I switched to canare 4s11, it opened up my midrange and added bass but the space and top end sparkle are gone. My music doesn't seem to have the same since of excitement, its a suttle but noctiable difference.

  • @1324390
    @1324390 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wonder how this A30a compares with the SA400 from SMSL which you reviewed quite some time ago. I bought the SA400 a couple of weeks ago for US$569 during the 11.11 sale. Shall I regret ?🤔

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, I don't think you should regret it. Although I never heard the SMSL SA400, I would not be surprised it can compete or even outperform this amp. They are all quite impressive today.

    • @1324390
      @1324390 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThomasAndStereo Thanks Thomas. I can sleep easy now... 😃Sorry that my aging memory failed me. I thought your were among those reviewers who lauded the SA400 lavishly as an excellent Clas D. It's more expensive than the Sabaj and has fewer bells and whistles.

  • @waldoyew4247
    @waldoyew4247 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sabaj a30a or emotiva ta2 does the $999 price tag justify its performance compared to the sabaj a30a?

  • @draganristevski5744
    @draganristevski5744 ปีที่แล้ว

    How will this pair with ELAC's debut 2.0 F6.2? Those speakers are power hungry I hear.

  • @craigjacoway8106
    @craigjacoway8106 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seems like the budget integrated I’ve been looking for. How does the klipsch rp 600m II work with it? Wanting fun\musical dynamic sound that is great at low volumes

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wish I had one to try.

    • @craigjacoway8106
      @craigjacoway8106 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for taking the time to reply. You have a lot of honesty and integrity One day I hope to purchase your gallion amp!

  • @820SHAY
    @820SHAY ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi
    Exclent review
    Do you think it will work good with LS50 meta?

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should get something better for a ls50

  • @geoffreydebrito7934
    @geoffreydebrito7934 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I very much agree that inexpensive integrated amps from manufacturers life Sabaj, S.M.S.L., Aiyima, etc. are greatly improved over just a few years ago. I have both a SMSL SA300 and an SMSL AO200 integrated amplifier. Both use the German Infineon MA12070 chip. The SA300 uses one and the significantly upgraded AO200 uses two of the Infineon chips.
    The only area where I see further improvement is in the soundstage and in the room 3D 'Palpability' which I attribute to the Infineon's chip. I state that in comparison to my personal experience with the Marantz PM6006, Marantz NR1509, REGA BRIO Integrated and the Eastern Electric MiniMax Tube Integrated Amplifier.
    Add in GalFet transistors like the Orchard Audio amps and any amp with an MSRP of less than $2500 should be looking over their shoulders.

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, the Sabaj does not have that 3D soundstage when compared to my TS120. However, as you said, it should be understood that you cannot get everything at $450.

  • @rambe2449
    @rambe2449 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Thomas, I am from Europe and I follow your reviews since the beginning.I learned a lot about tube amps from you.After your review about Willsenton R8 I ordered it and I am very happy with it.I have a question for you.On my Willsenton I use gold lion kt77 and electro harmonix 6ca7 but on kt88 side I have the stock tubes.I want to change them.What is your recommendation between gold lion, electroakustik black diamond or chinese psvane?
    My speakers are Focal Aria 936.
    ...and last question: nos Tesla el34 are good tubes for R8?
    Thanks a lot
    Kind regards

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      KT77, you are setting the voltage as EL34 right? For R8, I remember tube rolling does not make a super significant difference. It was more the tubes in the front that made a difference for me, either only change the 6SN7 OR 6SL7. I don't know the best match for R8. I have made a video for the Galion TS120 and tube rolling. Maybe it will follow the same? th-cam.com/video/CS9TGOrZwGM/w-d-xo.html

  • @califmike2003
    @califmike2003 ปีที่แล้ว

    This would pair well with a tube preamp ?

  • @antonioregi6315
    @antonioregi6315 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you kindly give me your opinion between this and smsl a300

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, I have never listen to the A300.

    • @JoseFerreira-zb7wh
      @JoseFerreira-zb7wh ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThomasAndStereo it would be really nice if you could. seems like a huge bargain.

  • @ManfromTellus
    @ManfromTellus ปีที่แล้ว

    How would it pair with Wharfedale Diamond 225?

  • @rkumarblr1
    @rkumarblr1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thomas thanks for the review. Do you think the Sabaj A30a will pair well with the Wharfedale Linton Heritage ?

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Heritage is probably a speaker good for vocal? If you HAVE to get a budget amp, I would go for the SMSL A1 in that case because it is better for vocal. Usually, you don't pair a $2k speaker with a $450 amp. It will not do the speaker justice.

    • @rkumarblr1
      @rkumarblr1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. I currently run it with a 25W Melody valve amp, class A push pull. Was curious on which class D or digital amp would pair well as an option.

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rkumarblr1 if you want something that is more an upgrade to the Melody, you would need to go to the Buchardt I150. Your melody should be really good to start off with.

    • @rkumarblr1
      @rkumarblr1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Thomas for the insight. Currently in my chain is the bluesound node N130, the latest model that I use as the streamer and a Metrum Amethyst no sampling R2R DAC, since I had already invested in it though the bluesound node is also a DAC.

  • @D1N02
    @D1N02 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder how it would compare to the Cambridge Audio AXA 35 which is at a similar price point. An ADC is not ideal for analogue sources especially vinyl. It wil digitize your analogue nostalgia. Not good!

  • @techmed-rainer
    @techmed-rainer ปีที่แล้ว

    Danke!

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks a billion.

    • @techmed-rainer
      @techmed-rainer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThomasAndStereo You're welcome! Though I consider "a billion" a bit overwhelming 😉

  • @edholmwood
    @edholmwood ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ironically Kodak worked extensively on digital cameras in the mid 80's.

  • @nikolajmathiesen3620
    @nikolajmathiesen3620 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you try it with the Sibelius speakers? keen to hear how they would match...

  • @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
    @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW,CARLOS YOU ARE QUICK ON THE DRAW ✍️ FOR COMMENTS 😅

  • @Scottyman99
    @Scottyman99 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I doubt that SABAJ is rated 200Watts @ 4 ohms 20Hz-20Khz. It's likely only at 1Khz. Anybody confirm?

  • @webfrasse
    @webfrasse ปีที่แล้ว

    How does it compare to PS Audio Sprout?

  • @sdrtcacgnrjrc
    @sdrtcacgnrjrc ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to have seen how the tone controls work (how akward to use)

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว

      Super simple actually.

    • @sdrtcacgnrjrc
      @sdrtcacgnrjrc ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThomasAndStereo thanks, and thanks for the review 👍🏼

  • @ronalcasid3844
    @ronalcasid3844 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kodak also invented the first digital camera but never brought it to market because they were afraid it would cannibalize their film sales.

  • @rohanreddy3427
    @rohanreddy3427 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a little Sabaj PHA3 tube headphone amplifier connected to my little iFi Zen Dac. And with high impedance headphones, like my Beyerdynamic T90, it is absolutely mesmerising.

  • @nishimotomari
    @nishimotomari ปีที่แล้ว

    만세^^
    아주 유용한 앰프 ^^

  • @jamesrobertson504
    @jamesrobertson504 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thomas, looking at the back inputs from the link to hifi-express website, the USB input looks like USB C. Is that correct?

  • @fletchermunson6225
    @fletchermunson6225 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think for a hundred dollars less, Id rather have a Yamaha 301 integrated or for a hundred dollars more a Yamaha 501. AB amp and built in DAC. Tone controls and sub outs.

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว

      I had the 301 and 801 before actually. The Yamaha is 'you get what you pay', not better but different. A bit more neutral I guess but lacks excitement.

    • @fletchermunson6225
      @fletchermunson6225 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThomasAndStereo Hi Thomas, Audio is a hobby of opinions and biases. I personally dont like Class D sound to date and have not heard this amp. I've heard a lot of reviews where people try to rationalize the class D sound deficiencies by talking about all the other good things ti does and how cheap it is. To me, when someone says it only sounds a little like class D, to me it's like someone says there is a dead fish in the punch bowl but it's just a little one. When I can get an affordable class D amp that sounds like a $5k amp. I'm probably in.

  • @Eugene737
    @Eugene737 ปีที่แล้ว

    1st question: at 8:23 it looks like the analog signal is converted digital and the back to analog. Is there a direct/bypass mode?
    2nd question: what are the options in the subout menu option? Are you able to high pass your speakers and not have “double bass”? Everyone seems to just provide low pass filter for the sub output and not high pass for the speaker output

    • @ThomasAndStereo
      @ThomasAndStereo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sadly it has low pass filter but not high pass. I think if you put it to flat in the EQ, it bypass the DSP.

    • @alvintan6302
      @alvintan6302 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just put a capacitor at d speaker lead, a lot of trial n error. That's what I did with my system, is not perfect