I can attest to the fantastic quality of these dogs! I bought 2 from Greg with my sheep and they are sweet and totally devoted to taking care of the sheep.
@@moavic5087 I've thought about that quite a lot. I'd like to have more dogs for my expanding flock of sheep. It'd almost be easier just to buy more from Greg though. Like Greg, I'm happy with this mix and I'm not sure how to get the correct proportions of breeds from an already mixed breed. They are pretty pricey to buy though...even though they are very much worth their price.
Brent haha definitely a challenge and something to think about and research a bit for the future. For your current flock size, 2 dogs are plenty. You have many predators in your area?
@@moavic5087 Oh sure, like everyone else we have an abundant population of coyotes and probably above average numbers of bobcats. We only have the very rare occasional black bear or cougar though. I mean so rare that a reported sighting is met with doubt and ridicule, lol.
I got two rescued Anatolian Pyrenees mix about 4 months ago. They do like to wander. I tied their leashes to a fireplace log, but as soon as it was removed they were off to the races. Now they’re a bit better but too attached to me. I don’t yet have any sheep but hoping they can still be trained in June.
So, just to reiterate, they're 1/2 Maremma, 1/4 Anatolian shepherd, and 1/4 Great Pyrenees. Nice!! Such great colour on those dogs, love them! Good dogs.
I would be interested in seeing a video regarding your atv set up for setting up paddocks, and also, especially since you feed big round bales with it, why you chose the atv model you have. It is something that interests me as I plan to get one of your bale unrollers when I get started. Thanks
My first livestock guardian dog was a Kangal and it got hit and killed on the highway. I have had 3 more Kangal's since that one and they all would roam if given the chance. Most breeders of LGD's that I know of stress heavily about strong fencing to the point where I wonder what's the point of the dogs if you have to make such a strong fortification just to keep the dogs in. Seems to me breeders should be trying to produce dogs that will stay with the livestock and not roam. I like that your dogs stay put. ~Russ
Your farm is so beautiful, and I love to watch your videos. Two questions: 1. How many dogs do you keep with a herd of, say 50, sheep? 2. I heard that it is not wise to mix LGDs with herding dogs because herding dogs have a predatory instinct that is not good in an LGD. How do you feel on this issue?
We recommend two dogs to a flock of sheep. If something happens to a dog, you have a backup dog. If you introduce your herding dog to your guardian dogs on a leash, that would certainly help.
Trying to get my first LGD 8month old trained. She Anatolian/Pyrenees/Houdini mix. She just won't stay in the pasture. I bet I make 5-10 trips a day marching her right back down. I'm wore out with this dog. During the night she stays with sheep. Just she feels the need come up to the house and visit at she plays with my other dog. Amazing smart dog though. Pointed out a dig hole under a fence when we were working on fence. She literally chased down a stubborn sheep I was trying to catch, tripped it, and held it down till I could get over to her. Never seen anything like it. Couple times she's pointed to that sheep and another as if to say "These need to go town". Maybe she's too smart just to sit out there alone watching 20 sheep?
Dodson Orchards I have experienced with the Pyrenees in them they like to roam. We raise Anatolians & don’t have that problem We did in the beginning & our first LGD had Pyrenees crossed with Anatolians
I hope you have find a solution. I’ve read a lot that your guardian dog needs to be trained at 6-16 weeks with the animal it’ll be protecting. After that, they won’t guard. So if as an adult dog you’re having issues, you’ll always have issues and need a new dog. I don’t know how true that is (It’s just what I’ve read across the internet) but we had a Great Pyrenees and he was a pain. I got rid of him. He roamed and tore up my neighbor’s trash.
arnez844 These dogs have been bred for hundreds of years to protect sheep from predators while still being non aggressive towards anything they recognize as a non threat. It’s literally bred into their genetics to guard against any threat. A pack a dogs in your sheep flock is enough of a deterrent against most predators. Predators are looking for an easy meal not a fight. What Judy has done is trained his predators to not come near the flock, if he kills the predators the ones that replace it won’t be trained and will try to attack the flock and you’ll maybe lose a sheep in the process. It’s a good way of working with nature instead of always having to shoot predators.
Greg, do you ever brush your dogs? No one brushes wolves so I would think it’s a fault to have an LGD that needs regular brushing. 🤷🏼♂️ I saw a FB thread and everyone was recommending their favorite lgd grooming tools and recommended daily or weekly brushing frequency. Seems like a waste of time to me but I don’t know 🤷🏼♂️
There is a current theory that dogs don't really descend from wolves. Even if they did, that doesn't make them wolves. They'd still be hundreds and hundreds if not thousands (I'm not really sure) of years removed from being wolves. In that time they've been thoroughly bred and domesticated to be completely different from a wolf. If your dog has very long hair with a double coat they may get matted especially if they're getting wet. I understand what you mean that people on Facebook seem a little unnecessary with their practices. I would just check your dog for matted fur and if the dogs fur is matted that's a sure sign that your dog needs to be brushed. They also need their nails clipped or they can develop joint issues so maybe brushing your dog during regularly scheduled grooming is just best practice.
@@gundog4273, I wouldn’t think a dog that’s been bred to live outside with livestock 100% of the time would need either of these grooming practices. If they did, I’d think that would be considered a breeding fault. Indoor dogs that get limited exercise (to trim their nails naturally) are a different story. I highly doubt greg needs to clip his dogs toenails and I doubt he brushes them as well. They all look super healthy.
@@jhost0311 it depends on the breed (: I know of LGD that are puppy mill mutts that don't require much grooming. Other pure breeds must be brushed or they can't survive hot/cold. Some drop coats so all matts disappear. Ask the breeder, assess your dog, you can probably find a very low maintenance LGD.
First you want dogs to wander out in some areas. They are marking territory to let the wolves know who is now in charge. In other areas you want dogs glued to stock because of cars and neighbors.
It would be very difficult for me to not interact more with my canines. If I have a home companion it would be easier for me as my nephew has poultry of all kinds and he has two lap yappers very unsuited to taking on a coyote. Consequently he has lost numerous turkeys chickens ducks geese and other fowl to coyotes, and coons. He goes out and sits at night for long periods but if he goes anywhere losses occur. If I left my dog there he would be run over the first night on the road.
Would be super interesting if a coyote happened to wander by in one of the guard dog videos.... seeing the dogs in action and what the sheep do😀 (not so fun for owner I admit)...
You don’t need any more than that. Simple is good. You don’t want the puppy to learn the habit of following you back to the truck or around the farm. Young pups love following you. Now you have a pet and your sheep are unprotected.
I can attest to the fantastic quality of these dogs! I bought 2 from Greg with my sheep and they are sweet and totally devoted to taking care of the sheep.
You should breed them. Get that Bloodline out there.
@@moavic5087 I've thought about that quite a lot. I'd like to have more dogs for my expanding flock of sheep. It'd almost be easier just to buy more from Greg though. Like Greg, I'm happy with this mix and I'm not sure how to get the correct proportions of breeds from an already mixed breed. They are pretty pricey to buy though...even though they are very much worth their price.
Brent haha definitely a challenge and something to think about and research a bit for the future. For your current flock size, 2 dogs are plenty. You have many predators in your area?
@@moavic5087 Oh sure, like everyone else we have an abundant population of coyotes and probably above average numbers of bobcats. We only have the very rare occasional black bear or cougar though. I mean so rare that a reported sighting is met with doubt and ridicule, lol.
I got two rescued Anatolian Pyrenees mix about 4 months ago. They do like to wander. I tied their leashes to a fireplace log, but as soon as it was removed they were off to the races. Now they’re a bit better but too attached to me. I don’t yet have any sheep but hoping they can still be trained in June.
So, just to reiterate, they're 1/2 Maremma, 1/4 Anatolian shepherd, and 1/4 Great Pyrenees. Nice!! Such great colour on those dogs, love them! Good dogs.
They just look like Pyrenees to me
If you watched the video you’ll hear that Greg already mentioned what they are; they’re not pure Pyrenees.
Greg you're living the dream live of a city boy with a country heart. Do you have other animals like chickens and rabbits
God bless 🙏🏽
Those are beautiful dogs.
I would be interested in seeing a video regarding your atv set up for setting up paddocks, and also, especially since you feed big round bales with it, why you chose the atv model you have. It is something that interests me as I plan to get one of your bale unrollers when I get started. Thanks
My first livestock guardian dog was a Kangal and it got hit and killed on the highway. I have had 3 more Kangal's since that one and they all would roam if given the chance. Most breeders of LGD's that I know of stress heavily about strong fencing to the point where I wonder what's the point of the dogs if you have to make such a strong fortification just to keep the dogs in. Seems to me breeders should be trying to produce dogs that will stay with the livestock and not roam. I like that your dogs stay put. ~Russ
Kangals need a 1000 acres to patrol.
@@gregjudyregenerativerancher I agree
Pick a breed that roams less. Maremma are middle of the road and mastiff breeds from spain (Spanish Mastiff and Pyrenean Mastiff) roam the least afaik
Karakachan doesn’t roam at all , stays always with the sheeps , best breed .
Good information
What kind of dogs do you raise?
do you have any problem with tics on the dogs?
Hey greg great vid.
Where do you put the dogs and sheep when it rains?
Sheep prefer being outside and the dogs do as well.
What about land owners dogs?
You are the man!!
Your farm is so beautiful, and I love to watch your videos.
Two questions:
1. How many dogs do you keep with a herd of, say 50, sheep?
2. I heard that it is not wise to mix LGDs with herding dogs because herding dogs have a predatory instinct that is not good in an LGD. How do you feel on this issue?
We recommend two dogs to a flock of sheep. If something happens to a dog, you have a backup dog. If you introduce your herding dog to your guardian dogs on a leash, that would certainly help.
Greg nice information about your dogs. How do you feed the dogs?
This is a question that I have as well. Could you show how you feed/water your dogs within your herd without your sheep eating all of their food.
That video is coming soon!
Trying to get my first LGD 8month old trained. She Anatolian/Pyrenees/Houdini mix. She just won't stay in the pasture. I bet I make 5-10 trips a day marching her right back down. I'm wore out with this dog. During the night she stays with sheep. Just she feels the need come up to the house and visit at she plays with my other dog. Amazing smart dog though. Pointed out a dig hole under a fence when we were working on fence. She literally chased down a stubborn sheep I was trying to catch, tripped it, and held it down till I could get over to her. Never seen anything like it. Couple times she's pointed to that sheep and another as if to say "These need to go town". Maybe she's too smart just to sit out there alone watching 20 sheep?
Dodson Orchards I have experienced with the Pyrenees in them they like to roam. We raise Anatolians & don’t have that problem
We did in the beginning & our first LGD had Pyrenees crossed with Anatolians
hey
I hope you have find a solution. I’ve read a lot that your guardian dog needs to be trained at 6-16 weeks with the animal it’ll be protecting. After that, they won’t guard. So if as an adult dog you’re having issues, you’ll always have issues and need a new dog.
I don’t know how true that is (It’s just what I’ve read across the internet) but we had a Great Pyrenees and he was a pain. I got rid of him. He roamed and tore up my neighbor’s trash.
But funny about her telling you which sheep she is having a hard time with LOL. “Take these dad, these are defective” 🤣
Greg, why do you like the multi breed dogs?
They have all the attributes that it takes to make a gods livestock guardian dog. They stay with our sheep and don’t get killed roaming the highways.
I adore these dogs and I had no conception that they would wander! Thank goodness it isn’t bred in the breed.
for me this is a very interesting topic....
Neat to see those big 🐕 comfortable with the 🐑 and vicea versa
Just think about it. Something to eat and something important to do. That's what we all want. These dogs are no different
The dogs don't need shelter, right? Or do you provide some sort of shelter?
Even if you provide shelter for these dogs, they will not use it. The sleep among the sheep that they are protecting.
If the dogs believe they are sheep then how do they protect them? Sheep aren't aggressive and will choose flight over a fight
arnez844 oh you want to be that guy 🙄. He didn’t mean it figuratively. Those dogs will bark at anything they don’t know.
@@moavic5087 I really want to know.
arnez844 These dogs have been bred for hundreds of years to protect sheep from predators while still being non aggressive towards anything they recognize as a non threat. It’s literally bred into their genetics to guard against any threat. A pack a dogs in your sheep flock is enough of a deterrent against most predators. Predators are looking for an easy meal not a fight. What Judy has done is trained his predators to not come near the flock, if he kills the predators the ones that replace it won’t be trained and will try to attack the flock and you’ll maybe lose a sheep in the process. It’s a good way of working with nature instead of always having to shoot predators.
@@moavic5087 cool. I'm from Atlantic City idk the much about farms and sheep lol
How many dog per 100 sheep do you like ?
At least 3
I have two Livestock guardian dogs but I have no sheep
Greg, do you ever brush your dogs? No one brushes wolves so I would think it’s a fault to have an LGD that needs regular brushing. 🤷🏼♂️ I saw a FB thread and everyone was recommending their favorite lgd grooming tools and recommended daily or weekly brushing frequency. Seems like a waste of time to me but I don’t know 🤷🏼♂️
There is a current theory that dogs don't really descend from wolves. Even if they did, that doesn't make them wolves. They'd still be hundreds and hundreds if not thousands (I'm not really sure) of years removed from being wolves. In that time they've been thoroughly bred and domesticated to be completely different from a wolf.
If your dog has very long hair with a double coat they may get matted especially if they're getting wet. I understand what you mean that people on Facebook seem a little unnecessary with their practices. I would just check your dog for matted fur and if the dogs fur is matted that's a sure sign that your dog needs to be brushed. They also need their nails clipped or they can develop joint issues so maybe brushing your dog during regularly scheduled grooming is just best practice.
@@gundog4273, I wouldn’t think a dog that’s been bred to live outside with livestock 100% of the time would need either of these grooming practices. If they did, I’d think that would be considered a breeding fault.
Indoor dogs that get limited exercise (to trim their nails naturally) are a different story.
I highly doubt greg needs to clip his dogs toenails and I doubt he brushes them as well. They all look super healthy.
@@jhost0311 it depends on the breed (: I know of LGD that are puppy mill mutts that don't require much grooming. Other pure breeds must be brushed or they can't survive hot/cold. Some drop coats so all matts disappear. Ask the breeder, assess your dog, you can probably find a very low maintenance LGD.
First you want dogs to wander out in some areas. They are marking territory to let the wolves know who is now in charge. In other areas you want dogs glued to stock because of cars and neighbors.
It would be very difficult for me to not interact more with my canines. If I have a home companion it would be easier for me as my nephew has poultry of all kinds and he has two lap yappers very unsuited to taking on a coyote. Consequently he has lost numerous turkeys chickens ducks geese and other fowl to coyotes, and coons. He goes out and sits at night for long periods but if he goes anywhere losses occur. If I left my dog there he would be run over the first night on the road.
Do u train dogs for for my office to be hard dogs n how much
Huh
Would be super interesting if a coyote happened to wander by in one of the guard dog videos.... seeing the dogs in action and what the sheep do😀 (not so fun for owner I admit)...
Title is very deceiving. Not much of a training program. I hit on it to learn. Take a stick and hit the ground and say no. ??????
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You don’t need any more than that. Simple is good. You don’t want the puppy to learn the habit of following you back to the truck or around the farm. Young pups love following you. Now you have a pet and your sheep are unprotected.
the question that rides my mind is shelter for the dogs... some sort of shelter for all the animals really....