Zoom explains that he was killed by Batman | Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay
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- Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay (2018)
Zoom explains that he was killed by Batman in another timeline (Flashpoint paradox)
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Storyline: Task Force X targets a powerful mystical object that they will risk their lives to steal.
Director: Sam Liu
Cast: Christian Slater (Deadshot), Vanessa Williams (Amanda Waller), Billy Brown (Bronze Tiger), Kristin Bauer van Straten (Killer Frost), Gideon Emery (Copperhead), Liam McIntyre (Captain Boomerang), Tara Strong (Harley Quinn), David Boat (Harvey Dent / Two-Face / Thug #2), Dave Fennoy (Blockbuster / Tobias Whale / Black Manta / Police Officer), Greg Grunberg (Steel Maxum), C. Thomas Howell (Zoom)...
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Reverse flash is like that kid at school who always made up new rules in a game when ever he lost.
how do i like a comment twice
LMAOOOOOOO
"Actually I had a invisible forcefield that specifically resists a kamehameha."
But I actually dodged the bullet and became immune to poison *teleports behind you*
@@flexican5399 “oh crap he’s coming at me, oh no I’m gonna get tagged! BASE! Actaully, if you took a floor in the game, it counts as base hahaha”
The only reason he repaired his mask is because his head would whistle when he ran
The wind pressure would also probably tickle his brain
Lmaooo this comment has me more dead than thawne 😂😂😭😭
@UCRHIPGbuagbTG74ne46qigw GOD NOW I CAN'T STOP FEELING A TICKLE IN MY BRAIN FUCK YOU
Also, like a bicycle, if you stick a stick in it, it will cause him to fall over.
@@kylecab31 LMAO YOOO THIS REPLY IS LEGEND CLASS
Deadshot: "Were you killed?"
Reverse Flash: "Sadly...yes."
**Everybody gasps**
Reverse Flash: "But I lived!"
That's zoom not r flash but okay
Nice reference😂
@@dustinherman3860 ...isn't Professor Zoom and Eobard Thawne the same person...
@@dustinherman3860 he goes by two names. Professor Zoom and Reverse Flash. This is Eobard Thawne.
That's basically his entire character
I love the shot of Batman just standing behind him with the gun in hand. You could tell even in The Flashpoint Paradox that Thomas Wayne’s Batman was a badass
Bruce got it from him after all
But we all know Thomas Wayne's Batman killed Reverse Flash because Reverse Flash was in the way of his son being allowed to live, which is what he wants more than anything. It doesn't matter to him if he doesn't see his son grow up, it only matters to him that he lives.
I also love the parallels of Deadshots face through his bullet hole. Since he was the one who shot him back to the moment Batman killed him
Bit late but there's also a version of Thomas's Batman who becomes a main character in Earth-2, who I think is very underrated.
In that version, Thomas in his youthful stupidity becomes best friends with a mobster and starts supplying drugs for their operations because he loves their partying lifestyle. Him and Martha get shot after he tries to leave and he fakes his death to protect young Bruce. Adult Bruce finds out and disowns Thomas and decades later his son dies and granddaughter goes missing saving the world. Thomas takes up the mantle in their name and out of guilt for not being nearly the good man his son was.
Additionally he uses a drug that is able to make him superhuman for one hour every 24 hours (to detox) to compensate for his advanced age. One of the first things he does is find the Joker in his frozen stasis prison and shoots him in the head for all he did to Bruce.
@@girl1213Bruce didn't get any of that. . .Thomas Wayne is the Batman that Bruce should have been
@@CRIZZEX Sorry, but Punisher Batman isn't what made Bruce Wayne Batman popular or beloved.
Bruce Wayne's Batman is a badass like his father because his father taught him to value life, even the most despicable ones. He would pity this version of his father. Never hate him, never belittle him, never stop loving him, but he would have pity for this man because he dishonors the memory of the man who raised Bruce before his death. Because that Thomas Wayne valued life, this one doesn't.
The fact that Bruce can love even this version of his father is because of the Thomas Wayne who died in the alleyway.
And you can bet this Batman *is dang glad* Bruce Wayne Batman isn't him
I like how Zoom isn't even mad at Thomas Wayne Batman. He's all like I tried to have his world destroyed, I had it coming.
Also, deadshot's grin changed when he said it was batman...
@Red X
It was Thomas Wayne Batman.
He is from the universe where Bruce died.
He kills everyone.
And the Joker is Bruce's mother.
I mean he is a villain not a meanie.
@Red X idfk she just killed him then had the iconic bloody smile
@Red X you'd understand (not likely) if you watch fash point paradox
"It was Batman"
"HAHAHA! Yeah, I'm sure it was!"
"From another timeline"
"Oh, ok that makes sense"
It was me barry!
Kono DIO da
Flashpoint paradox
@@hellothere-us7iw We know.
"No, not that Batman."
Honestly slowing down those seconds of near death to weeks-months was the smartest loophole I’ve ever seen.
0:37
In which he didn’t immediately rush to a lazarus pit and instead opted for this extremely simplistic alternative
@@mihneaiordan1813 lazarus pit can cause insanity though.
But how the hell did Zoom get back to the original timeline... in the alternate timeline, Batman (Thomas Wayne) shoots him in the head and Zoom falls to the ground. Flash then creates a second flashpoint and prevents himself from changing the past. So how did Zoom get back to the original timeline?
The only way he could get back is if he traveled back in time after Flash had already left (speedsters can't travel back in time if there is a second speedster). But by the time Flash had created the second flashpoint, Batman (Thomas Wayne) and the entire city was already disintegrated by the explosion. And even if Zoom was able to somehow escape the explosion and travel back in time, he would have re-entered his original body, like Flash did when he woke up in front of his work computer at the police station, with no evidence of the beating he took in the alternate timeline's war.
There are tons of holes in this loophole.
@@disrupt94 i think he wouldn’t have enough time to find it
I love that his perception of speed forced him to feel the bullet traveling through him. Great detail
That’s actually why when written faithfully the flash literally can’t be shot. He would feel the bullets force before it hit him and he could grab it or move out of the way.
But your brain can't feel itself being touched and it also does not feel pain
@@Benjamslikestrains your skull and skin can though.
the brain doesn't have pain receptors.
@@HollywoodExileYeah, the thing about catching speedsters by surprise is that surprise means a completely different thing to a person who can do a million different things in a split second.
For a normal person, being surprised is like your dinner burning and they have to run to turn the stove off.
For a speedster, that'd be like... "Oh no, I forgot to schedule to bring an umbrella for a rainy day two months from now. "
So yeah, you'd need a quadruple double backflip helix feint to actually surprise a speedster, given the ungodly amount of time their speed gives them to react.
Anyone else feel bad for Copperhead here? Dude was doing what he was assigned to do and Waller was like “well, oh well.”
homie went above and beyond the call of duty. if he had stayed put he would have lived
I mean, being a reptile and being frozen like he was, he was gonna die from thermal shock anyway...Might as well put the corpse to good use
@@ceooflowrolls2081 but he escaped. i mean, im sure he could've escaped 10 seconds after Frost walked out of the room and he would've lived too
I think he should've freed the others first.
Yeah i feel bad for him, but ı'm mostly shocked to what just happened. Did Amanda put explosives inside the bodies of all the suicide squad members? Were they even know that? I mean, were they doing this because they were know their lives on the line or they simply accept to do what Amanda says because of their personal interests and they weren't know anything about explosives inside of their bodys?
Nobody's going to mention how Deadshot's smug went away as soon as Zoom mentioned it was Batman?
It was as if Deadshot was a bit scared Batman now kills villains.
Yeah, don't override/dickride Batman
My memory is pretty hazy with all that alternate realities in addition to the new dark multiverse, but that wasn't Bruce, right? IIRC it was Thomas Wayne who became Batman in that timeline/universe, and the one who shot him.
Yep
well everything in that timeline got fucked
Yeah, his smug went away not because he learned how shitty Zoom died in another time line. That and the fact he realize it sucks to be alive yet feeling death touch you the more you try to out run it
Zoom should just not exist already, I’m sick of online classes
Hah, plus it's a little bit untrustworthy
Hahaha
Same
Same
I hate u XD
You had us in the first half, not gonna lie.
I like Deadshot's smile faded away instantly when Zoom said it was Batman.Imagine what Deadshot was thinking when he found out Batman was now probably willing to kill.
Deadshot has no way to know it was Batman's *father* who killed him, but it works out great for Batman because now Deadshot knows he HAS to fear Batman.
@@girl1213 They would still fear the batman who doesn't kill more. A version of Batman out there is willing to kill but theirs will try to use whatever torture method and training just to avoid offing his own rogue gallery. Batman is just as crazy as them if not crazier.
@@girl1213 I mean does Zoom even know that? I'm pretty sure as far as he is concerned Batman is Batman, he's just thinks "well, I finally took it too far and he snapped"
@@user-pi1lb4tf2f look up the batman who laughs, that's a batman willing to kill woth plot armor
@@mdb45424nah, BWL is 2edgy4me
Moral of the story, don’t live a life that would require the use of that card
How then can you live to enter into heaven?
Jen Yang a good start would be by not being a supervillain with a body count
Jen Yang well you could try being immortal like Vandal Sav- oh wait nevermind
1,000th like
Hayden Hidey no one cares tho
Zoom: is a supergenius
Also Zoom: travels to an alternate reality where the batman is willing to kill
He didn't know that would happen and that was flash who created that timeline
According to you, ever super genius just immediately knows who’s the serial killer in the room, brain so smart it forced the serial killer to telepathically admit they’re a killer
How come they call him zoom when he’s reverse flash
@@Ok-eg4bi they are the same character
@@Ok-eg4bi Reverse Flash is the name of several characters. The original was named The Rival. I think his real name was Edward Clariss? Next we have this one, Eobard Thawne, aka Professor Zoom. After him was Hunter Zolomon or just Zoom. The last one just went by Reverse Flash and his name was Daniel West. Since Hunter Zolomon isn't in this series, just calling Thawne "Zoom" works.
That was brutal. Copper head didn’t deserve that, he was doing his best to complete the mission.
Amanda Waller is a cruel bitch
If his breath venom could melt ice he should just unfroze all of the team instead of taking her one vs one especially after seeing her kill Bansee and take Zoom on
No, but actually yes.
I think he did just that. He knew he was as good as dead and decided to take her with him.
No honor amongst thieves or villains.
Reverse F went from
"It was me Barry!"
To
"It was Batman..."
Difference is, if the heroes heard him say that, they would know "Not *our* Batman."
ITS REVERSE FLASH NOT ZOOM
"It was me, Barry!"
Not even the card could have get him out
lol
It was me, dio
IT WAS ME AL ALONG BARRY
Devinn *Blows brains out*
“There is now!”
If Zoom was smart, he would have taken the card and Ran to his death bed. I suppose I can't be to hard on the guy since he did make this plan with a hole in his head.
We're men. We're prideful and arrogant, especially when we're in situations where we are the top tier characters. Zoom made the same damn mistake as when he was in the future. Batman hit his shot, and then deadshot hit his........shot
He's running out of gas in his brain.
Young Love nah I think zoom was LITERALLY MISSING PIECES OF HIS BRIAN and didn’t have long to live
And if Killer Frost was smart, she would create on the ground something what would push Copperhead.
@@DoomSlayer-gj8qb Ah, yes. His poor Brian was in pieces.
Don't take me too seriously, just poking fun. Sorry.
Plot twist: The card was actually a Walmart gift card.
Plot twist to the plot twist: it was already redeemed.
The card was useless anyway, if any of them used it they'd just squander the opportunity and end up back in hell.
I'd recommend reading the Secret Six story this is ripped off from.
In the comic it was noted that yes, the card was legit. Because the hope it could offer one person was nothing compared to the suffering of every other person that failed to get it, and the card being real just made all that better. Plus as mentioned they figured anybody who did what was needed to get it would still be going back next time anyway.
Plot twist to the plot twist to the plot twist: there’s no plot twist
Lol
My biggest question is why doesn’t zoom just bolt out of that place the moment he gets the card? Yes I know he only has a limited amount of speed left and if he uses it all then he dies, but he had to have had a tiny pinch of speed force left in him after pulling out the card or else he would have just died right then and there after pulling it out. His end goal is to make sure he’s holding the card when he dies to make sure he gets into heaven. So if he just put the card in his suit and used the last of his speed to run even a few city blocks then he will die as soon as he’s empty, the card will work on him, and none of the others could do anything about it because by the time they get to his body he will have already used the card and BOOM mission accomplished.
But no he just mocks vandal savage and stares at killer frost freezing his henchman .
It’s almost like that hole in his head was finally getting to him
@@smogblazer4509 because it’s gonna happen ether way. That’s why he’s getting the “get out of hell free” card. So he can go to heaven because he knows for sure without it he’d go straight to hell. And with everyone else trying to get the card, I feel like he should have known to use it while he could.
Though he’s good at hiding it, he’s barely functional at this point, basically out of Speed Force fumes. His thoughts are clouded enough that he just didn’t think of it.
Mans is missing more than just a chunk of his brain, and you're wondering why he wasn't thinking clearly?
He’s a narcissist and a coward. He’ll put off the inevitable as long as possible
“...with every ounce of willpower I had left.”
“Eobard Thawne, welcome to the Green Lantern Corps.”
I can just see his lantern ring trying to catch up with him in that miniscule amount of time before he dies
Respect for calling him by his real name
I would be enraged if someone actually says Hunter Zolomon in this video. While the evil sociopath here is clearly Thawne
@@MixSonaProductions "sociopath"..? More like psychopath.
@@andreasballe7470 the specifics of those terms are still debatable some doctora treat them as synonomious some say one means the other and have a new definition point is experts arnt sure so it gives us laymen a free pass
@@kellynolen498 It's however, very clear that Eobard Thawne is a psychopath, not a sociopath, as some sociopaths can actually have a sense of guilt, while all that Eobard does is purely for his own joy and pleasure mostly, menaing that he likely has no guilt.
"It was batman",he sounds so proud of his death at the hands of Batman
Obviously. He is BATMAN
I bet he wishes he could tell Joker that just to see the reaction.
Got to make you proud to know the Batman the only one who could ever kill you
I mean, imagine being shot by batman.
@@TheReverseFlashThawn 🤣Da fuck
When he says it was Batman, Deadshot's smile disappears instantly. He's hit with the realization that there are versions of Batman that do kill people, and they are good at it... Likely even more so than he is.
Batman got lucky. Zoom SHOULD have been able to avoid or even phase through it.
@@NFITC1 It’s more so just a case of hubris. He was blinded by his gloating and didn’t expect batman to kill when in his timeline’s batman tried to rehabilitate than exterminate.
@@NFITC1 To be fair seeing Batman you'd think the worst he can throw at you are fancy batarangs, Thomas ain't fooling around with his gun
Batman had enough preparation time
@@ensobook4263 lmao
Reverse Flash explaining how it feels like to operate on bought time sounds an awful lot like trying to stay awake all day after pulling an all nighter last night
Except you can’t go to sleep from then on, otherwise you die.
Thank you both for elaborating. That is quite the uncomfortable feeling to imagine. 😮
Speedforce is really OP I mean this dude Zoom is talking with a hole in his damn head and his logic is that he was able phase through time is able to survive mere seconds before death taking plot armor to another level.
depending on the writer how exactly the speedforce works changes though in general its all the same
what zoom seems to be doing here is an inverse of what the speedforce is meant to do rather than speed the person up it slowed him down to such an extent that 1 second lasts weeks if not years
could even handwave the only way he's able to communicate is because of the changes a speedforce body goes through(faster reaction time and whatnot) and him "speeding up" in this movie is more him relaxing the slowing of his personal time
...comics are weird
@@theirishviking9278 Thats why it's called science fiction and it's way cooler compared to the real world we live.
Why can't just enjoy this dope ass scene
You see, he is the Reverse Flash, and with how often the speedforce is a diablo ex machina to kill Flashes, he can do the opposite of that.
@@jonathanbhatty8592 I mean, you say that but if you know some of the shit real life physics has, it's pretty damn amazing while being real. Comics just get to a point where I don't care because nothing matters.
Actually, before he died he ask Barry:
remember the time you were making out with your first girlfriend?
IT WAS MEEEE!!!
I JERKED YOU OFF IN SUPER SPEED SO IT SEEMED LIKE U NUTTED AT JUST A WOMANS TOUCH
@@berliancs8170 Evil man didn't even say no homo
💀
I swear I just got that recommended to me
For those of you who don’t know that card is a free pass to Heaven no matter what you do no matter how evil you are you go straight there
Oh damn, thanks for informing us 👌
Thanks, I thought it was the N word pass
Seems legit
@@danielballestas5532 what's the difference?
@Shaquille Roethof no. He didn't go to heaven because of the free pass. As far as I know, if Constantine dies he goes straight to hell, but Hell couldn't get his soul or else there would be a war in Hell 'cause a lot of them want his soul when he gets sent there.
C. Thomas Howell is my favorite voice actor for the role of Reverse Flash. I think he captured Thawne’s cold and calculating personality very well. I also like that this version of Reverse Flash rarely raises his voice when he’s angry. Plus if Young Justice gets a fifth season, I would like to see the Reverse Flash make an appearance with C. Thomas Howell doing the voice again.
YEAH DUDE IKR, and im trying to find another dc movie with his voice in it do you know which else?
Pony Boy?!
Wait, did he also play Injustice Captain Cold? He did a great job with Snart as well.
Lol whenever I think of C Thomas Howell I can never forget he was in a terrible 😢black-face film called Soul Man
Everyone saying why didn't zoom just let go of the speed force when he got the card well when you hve a golf sized hole in your head you're bound to make a dumb mistake
or he still wanted to live more to completely run out of gas every human wants to live for the maximum amount.
can confirm; i have a full brain and i would prob make the same mistake too
He is thawne not zoom
@@chrisjon8563 Thawne's Supervillain name is Professor Zoom. He's described as the Reverse Flash but that is not his codename. Hunter Zolomon goes by just Zoom. Really wasn't a problem until they were both active again but it's basically Zoom 1 and Zoom 2. It's the CW show that dropped the Professor Zoom.
@@DesignIncase thx for the info
so he's basically living in the second before death. Only comic books could have sense of this.
Actually, that was sort of the entire plot of 12 Oz. Mouse.
The entire show was just one single paused moment where the guys running the simulation had complete control, because the moment before didn't matter, and it didn't affect the moment after. You could destroy the entire world, then just press 'play' and things would continue how they were supposed to.
I thought that was kind of cool. That's why in the first episode 'Hired,' Fitz decides to disobey his boss when he notices that the clock hasn't moved and that his reality no longer makes sense.
zoom is in a state of lifeless continuation which is similar to a cockroach without its head or a decapitated snake head. biologically he is dead but the speed force is keeping the chemical reactions sustained, not undead but somewhere between living and UD
Gerald Weir woah 12oz mouse actually has a plot and you understand it you deserve some genius awards for that like the Nobel Prize and the Fields metal for figuring that out because I always figured the whole show was just nonsense.
Also, Doctor Who.
Japanese anime has entered the chat.
*That moment you realize that grown ass Supervillians are fighting over nothing more than a magical Monopoly card*
Granted, one that literally was a 'Get out of Hell FREE' card.
U can't do wutever the fuck u want they kill u then u go to heaven like come on
I don’t give a fuck what kind of card it is, it could be a magical coupon and I’d still fight for it. If it’s magical then it’s worth a lot
Uno reverse
The N word pass
"It was me Thawne"
-Batman
Thomas Wayne Batman
Thawne will never understand how far a father would go to ensure his dead son has a chance to live
Frankly I'd have had the villains react more intensely to hearing that A Batman shot Zoom through the head. Just seeing the panic spread across their face would be glorious.
Why
As far as they know bats don’t kill a Batman that kills would of wiped em all multiple times by now
@@ANKUZAKI Because most of the villians in the room were batman villians at some point aka if he starts killing hes gonna be comin for them first you cantactually see it when zoom says batman killed him that deadshot suddenly looks worried.
@@wilmagregg3131 nah he had his kinda agry serious look while listening to Zoom story. This was in no shape or form a worried face. Trust me the shows make it clear when someone reacts to Batman with close ups or exagerations like gasping mouths eyes wide open etc.
Yeah, when a guy with a hole through his head traveled from an alternate dimension and galaxy to explain something to you, one where he says batman kills, your first reaction, would be to get mad, about a batman killing a bad guy, in a alternate dimension, where batman kills bad guys?
Absolutely genius mate. When can you start writing for DC?
I like the way he says "it was Batman". Like he feels a sense of pride that it was Batman who shot him lol.
Edit: please stop telling me things I already know.
What's the name of this show
What's the name of this show
@@anthonyharriott9406 its a movie, suicide squad hell to pay
I mean it's freaking BATMAN!. The man is one of the strongest non-super-powered humans in the DC",there are countless times ol'bats could kill a villain without breaking a sweat,so the alternate time-line Batman basically saying fuck it" and deciding to kill criminals is pretty cool tbh 😂
@@vladimir-savage72 batman is literally thd most mediocre member, like for dc standards its good but he literally has no reason or right to be as strong.
I've never seen anything Suicide Squad related before, but I think I finally know why their group is named "Suicide Squad" now.
Basically, they're criminals and they're all rigged to explode if they uprise.
@@sabikikasuko6636 that is also I was about to reply after reading the comment
Also the only DCAU to have nudity 👍
@@aliannoeled9152 i had a stroke reading this
@@derekhandson351 where was that? 🤨
Even though he is a super villain and, you want to hate the guy, you gotta respect his will to live; very respectable.
3:33 is the most Amanda Waller sentence I’ve ever heard in my life. I love it.
*damn straight*
THAT BITCH KILLER FROST IS MINE
Trick bitch lol
Yah HEAR! 😂
Plus she’s straight smokin. I mean damn she wasn’t fat af for once. She actually looked like something you wanna get a piece of.
"It was Batman, in another timeline. Can't say that I blame him. I mean, that time he was making out with his first girlfriend..."
literally the only "making out with your first gf" comment that made me laugh. Good shit.
@@GoBroncosTimTebow same XD
"It was a favor to the Joker. He is the only one who understand my goals with Barry"
It was me Batman
@@aconglomerador_de_hienas24 I was you're first girlfriend
DC animated movies are just so damn good tbh
Mhm, the "It was me Barry" scene was AMAZING
Hippos
Guess it's never too late to comment on a TH-cam video.
@@blitz1409 better late than never
@@blitz1409 yup
Honestly not surprised Killer Frost betrayed him right then, he literally just showed that he was at deaths door and barely had any speed force left, meaning the only thing he had left to offer was the card and it was clear he intended it for himself, there was only two ways frost was getting out of this ahead, 1 she gets the card herself,
2.she gets the card and then returns to the team saying she only betrayed the team because the only other option was to die from reverse flash(plus without her could powers and his speed there would have been no way any of them could have gotten the card away from Savage with its powers still intact.
"whats the problem zoom?"
"Problem? i guess you Could say i got a * lifts mask * HOLE lotta problems."
Dr. Manhattan just hakai'd his ass off.
Yaaaaaaaaaaaa!
I actually love zoom lol
But a bitch ain’t one
🤣🤣🤣🤣
The fact that zoom is able to keep himself alive despite missing a good chunk of his brain just shows How determined and powerful he is.
The man tried to blow up the flash in his own museum and when he himself was trapped with the flash he was like “eh, least you’ll go down with me.” Then AGAIN in the same movie with an entire world. When Barry told him that he’d be erased along with it his exact words were “as they say in your time, Totaly Worth it” to hell with the speed force I’m convinced he’s surviving purely on determination and spite. Lots and lots of spite.
If only JFK had that ability smh
@@byronsmith8845 NOOOOOOOOOOOOO demolition
It’s called bad writing.
What's the name of this show
The first minute-35 gives such a good villain story, I'm almost rooting for zoom with how good his voice actor matches his face and his lines
I was really hoping for him to win for once instead. I feel like he deserved that card more.
@@keijijohnson9754 why
0:40 this some god level shit
Could we have him in justice league?
too bad he died in the film
i would've preferred it if he came back for apokolips war and rather than it be a slaughter fest focused on the people who got their own films while everyone who didn't died, instead, it was a 2 part-er. first part, the war. second part, the apocalypse
barry's a main character, zoom managed to stay alive, and as his life drains out and all of his speed dies, he makes one last effort to make sure barry's life remains hell - stopping the flashpoint
i don't know how the film would've gone differently, i'm just listing the plot points that would've made apokolips war truly the best ending and not a gore filled shock fest
His delivery on "You might say everything" is simply immaculate.
Zoom gets the card: “This card entitles you to 1 FREE vanilla swirl at Dairy Queen.”
I'd Kill for that
Ugh vanilla 😑
"F I N A L L Y"
worth
I see no down side here.
i love it how they continue the flash paradox story line forward.
or backwards, no that's not right. sideways?
But they don't continue the assault on Arkham storyline
@@tank382 Assault on Arkham is supposed to be set in the Arkham games Universe
@@tank382 play the Arkham games. There's your continuation
just hated, how tf can they mess up this much? annoying how this fella survived
I love suicide squad for the simple fact that they just kill off like 4 characters without a single thought.
That's also kinda the problem you kinda know who's gonna get axed next since they never kill off the really popular characters like Harley or Deadshot
@@almalone3282 Let's not forget boomerang and king shark (even though shark did die in arkham asylum)
@@codycoyote545 holy shit i just remembered both died in Justice League Dark: Apolklips (AKA what Snyder-verse was probably leading too)
@@almalone3282 Honestly.... I think Captain Boomerang is gonna die in the next movie. Just by analyzing the trailer.
@@codycoyote545 i think he was supposed to have a bigger role in the Ezera Miller Flash movie however since WB said they are moving away from Snyder Verse Captain Boomerang might get killed off in ss2
I've never watched this nor do I know who he is exactly, but let's just give a moment of silence for Copperhead.
Zooms voice actor sells this scene phenomenally.
Right? What were the Injustice 2 casting directors thinking casting C. Thomas Howell as Captain Cold and not Professor goddamn Zoom??
@@thefilmwatcher1302 fax
@@thefilmwatcher1302 I agree. Though you have to admit, Liam O'Brian did do a pretty good job as Zoom. Definently would have been better with Howell.
@@PoneBros Meh, he sounded more like a pretty-boy type than Zoom.
I ruin your 666 likes
Are we going to ignore the fact that Copper-head did his best to save his teammates despite him having a minor role? He did his absolute best, man
Right
Copper head is the goat he came in clutch
A most necessary sacrifice
And made the ultimate sacrifice...
He looked like he was going after the card to me
I’ve heard of a slow death, but this is something else.
A literal dead man walking.
Have you heard of living through every way of dying?
@@randommagos9001 so diavolo
@@justaguywithagoodphoto4801 yes
@@randommagos9001 canonically he could have died by lightning
This guy's hate for Barry is so strong that he survived a gunshot to the fucking skull and is ok
Oh, he's not okay. He's only delaying his death, not stopping it. And he's getting weaker, so death is coming at him much faster with each moment of time that's passing. That's why he needs the card, yet is not using his speed as he should to take advantage because he's too busy keep death at bay.
Darth maul : survives being cut in half
Reverse flash: hold my beer
Ehh but real people have survived getting their brains blown out. Neuroplasticity yo.
No one has ever survived being cut in half. So zoom should be holding mauls beer.
@@revolverocelot1380 and maul got killed by a wound that wasn't even deep
In star wars rebels
@@chariotrequiem8547 true but maul was a weaker and broken old man at that point. He no longer has that dark side anger fueling him. He just wanted to die.
Seeing how Star Wars' prime form are the full-lenght live-action movies and Maul never appeared in any of them past that fall you can pretty much just ignore whatever the fuck people who were in on the the SW license money making up.
Rip copperhead the only homie that didnt become useless after "ooonooo cold lady go brrr"
Scorpions can survive in ice right? Like once they're out they just go about their day haha
@@YamiHoOu I dont think so
He should have just used his acid breath or whatever when he was choking her. So he's only half useless
@@timothyhernandez6222 I was thinking the same thing
@@timothyhernandez6222 4:34 I think he tried.
I always felt bad for copper head here. I always got the sense he wanted to do the right thing, he could have stayed frozen like the others and Waller wouldn’t have questioned it. Instead he took the risk of breaking free and fighting the most powerful person in the room. Rip copper head, we shall not forget your sacrifice.
Its also plot convenience that he didnt win. he had the upper hand and then instead of spewing acid in her face or punching her, or restraining her hands, or continuing to use his tail he ... starts lightly choking her? That was just bad fight choreography to make the explosion moment happen.
@@kettenschlosd well his acid spit…for lack of a better word has a cool down. He can only use once before having to let it recharge. But I understand what you mean
I didn’t like the Justice League Cartoon’s copperhead, he looked so weird. So with Batman Arkham Origins, I actually didn’t mind them making copperhead a female, it was a sexy design that fit, but seeing this Copperhead design, I actually really like it. If they can translate this to film, I’d love to see a live action version
@@kakashikage9483 imo, this version of copperhead is WAAAY better than arkham origins.
Idk why, this version looks fucking cool.
Infee
This feels like it came straight out of jojos bizarre adventure. I like it when characters get creative with their powers. God i love reverse flash so much.
Yeah
It was me, JoJo
MIDjos fangay
That gives a hole new meaning to having an open mind
Stop 🤣
🤣🤣🤣
@Lakshyaplayz wait how did you do that
@@111jkjk you like your own comment stfu emoji cancer
@@bozothefuckingclown9476 emoji cancer
Gordon: "What happened to no guns?"
Batman: "This is a gun?!?!!!!!"
Shhh he’s sleeping
Bruce is the one about no guns. i don’t know if Thomas ever cared.
Doctor fishyyyyyyy
Gordon: "YOU'RE AN IDIOT"
Badman: "Not so loud... you'll awake him"
@@Jbluez1 it's a reference to a collegehumor bit
I like this version of the Suicide Squad. They actually act like villains instead of goofy anti-heroes like they're portrayed as in other versions. This suicide squad it feels like anyone can turn on each other in an instance. This scene was absolute nuts.
Also nice reveal at the end. I didn't realize that this was the same Xoom from Flashpoint. Nice little callback.
Agree but it’s not really a callback. It’s all in the same series of movies ending with apocalypse war
This entire movie happens in the infinitesimal amount of time before zoom dies after his brain is scrambled by the bat bullet in the flashpoint paradox movie
Completely agreed. The new Suicide Squad, while enjoyable, was still missing that element: the squad are BAD GUYS. With a few exceptions, they're all career criminals, murderers, thieves, and assassins, forced to do the government's bidding. They aren't misunderstood misfits who want to be heroes.
@@hieronymusboss7705 and thats probably why Marvel can't bring the Thunderbolts (an actual team of misunderstood misfits and villians that seek redemption and want to become heroes) to the big screen. Average movie goers might end up accusing them of ripping off Suicide Squad even though Suicide Squad wasn't suppose to be like that to begin with.
What about Assault on Arkham?
As soon as he was describing what it was like mentally to extend his dying moments for days and weeks, losing his mind, it reminded me of having a bad trip a thousand times over.
At first I thought this was a kid show but boy was I proven wrong big time.
Let me guess, it was the moment Zoom showed off his fleshy red hole wasn't it?
Same
You mean that this scares you??
Eduardo Martinez I think he meant messed up if you didn’t catch that because you’re slow
@@somerandomdudewithachannel325 I was talking to Jerome Hatake not with you, if you did not understand, you are the slow one
“I never saw it coming”
Im not even going to make the joke.
A superfast man getting shot from behind because "you [he] didn't see that coming?"
Man I have no idea what you're talking about, sounds totally unfamiliar. Stop trying to make connections that don't exist and just Marvel at the animation of this scene.
search it was me Barry in TH-cam, watch the first video and you’ll understand
Watch it was me Barry on youtube and you'll figure it out
@@cameronsitton501 shush
@@cameronsitton501 did you see that it was me barry video yet?
"It was Batman"
Of course it was, even in a different timeline, he's still able to beat people who can move at the speed of light
He shot him from behind
Plexiscore so Batman got him from the back! That's kinda gay
That appears to be the universe where Bruce Wayne died and Thomas Wayne became Batman.
That is, a Batman who is 30 years or so older than Bruce and twice as bitter was *still* able to get him
Batman is overrated asf
@@MaestroHenry he has plans to counter every single thing that he can think of and you will never know about it until the plan is needed. He's human who goddamn he's basically a god at this point.
Reverse Flash is using his speed to stay alive as long he doesn't use it to run.
Live footage of dc villains fighting for the n word pass.
The will of the Crow okay this comment is hilarious
The card is V-bucks
*_Black lives matter_* approves your message
If you said N card it would have been perfect
@@LauGman okay, this is epic.
I guess Batman helped Zoom clear his thoughts
Demi-Fiend of Time
Boo!
Ricardo Ortiz-Joseph Thank you ill be here all night XD
Demi-Fiend of Time
In all seriousness, nice work with the pun.
Ricardo Ortiz-Joseph I guess you could say I'm quick wited XD
Demi-Fiend of Time
Spot on, my friend
Copperhead didn't deserve that ending :( he was a bro the entire movie
u replied to the wrong comment? 😂
@Rogue I mean, is that totally bad? This is Rated R. Ofc it ain't for kids.
Rogue you really gonna argue for days on end that a particular thing “is for babies”? 😂
You need a life my dude, grow up.
@Rogue what about The Punisher or Daredevil?
They are Netflix shows. Anyhow, something is childish if it does not have a semblance of maturity in its themes or story telling. DC does this, marvel does this aswell. Don't tell me Infinity War is a "kids movie". Sure, you don't see humans get torn apart, but you do see characters experiencing very strong emotions, trauma, and bloodshed. The Kill count in that movie is astonishing.
Sure, no one gets raped, no one gets into drugs or alcoholism. That's for the other movies. You can call the MCU happy go lucky. But you honestly can't call it a baby show.
Rogue you’ve seen the marvel movies too, idiot.
Does that mean you’re a baby?
This is literally written SO well. I wish the tone of the rest of the movie was as good.
I don't know, it seemed silly for Zoom not to attempt to die while holding the card. He dodged out of the way of ice spears for god's sake. If he'd just grabbed the card in his palm and taken the hit from those spikes he could have succeeded.
@@boianko I don't really think he was thinking and was more reacting. Plus... You know... The hole through his head. He said himself he was operating in a fog.
But that's a character flaw. That's fine, imo.
The writing, the speech, the cadence, it was amazing. The atmosphere was great!
This scene is what got me to watch the movie, and then the movie itself didn't live up to it.
@@boianko What if he doesn't die instantly and she takes the card from his hands before he expires? Rather risky.
it might have something to do with Harley's yap being frozen shut lol
@@Kerim9991 Not really. Harley was fine. The rest of the movie just doesn't have the same vibe as this scene. I feel like there could be something really dark centered around this, but it's just not in the rest of the movie. It's too goofy imo.
0:30 “Thanks to me his entire world was going to die”
Meanwhile he told Barry it was his fault. Because of course
It was ME, Barry!
I think he meant it was his fault because he was preventing Barry from correcting his mistake.
Well, it WAS Barry's fault, in context
Telling Barry it was HIS fault purely for the chance to fuck with him by a microscopic amount is enough for Thawne
Barry created Flashpoint, but he wanted to fix it. Thawne wouldn't let him and was willing to let Earth be destroyed just to hurt Barry.
No one:
Zoom: rEmEmBeR wHeN u MaDe oUt wItH uR fIrSt GiRlfRiEnD?
It was me Barry!
I JERKED U OFF WITH SUPER SPEED SO IT SEEMED LIKE U NUTTED AT JUST A WOMANS TOUCH
I thought it was made out
@@briantannenbaum8110 edited
@@KashiniVirtue There is now.
I think what I like most about the flash in this universe was that he and zoom explain there is far more to their powers than just being able to run fast. They can vibrate their molecules, sumon the speed force to change time, create alternate universes...I mean hell Flash and Zoom could destroy everything if they wanted too. Its amazing
Yet all Flash does when fighting crazy powerful badguys is run around and punch really fast.
@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 yeah if you think about if flash is maybe the most powerfull being on earth. Even more powerfull then superman. They need to nerf most of the time but in some storylines they choose to give his full powers
@@kc_h7h i mean, if youre made of another material don't matter that much, WHEN THE FREAKING PUNCH VIBRATES AND PENETRATES YOUR SKIN ANYWAYS, DESTROING YOUR HEART INSIDE YOU
Speedster are normally very op.
It's just that they are nerfed on regular basis by writers to keep them at bay.
It's stupid writing. Its why I don't t like flash. Way too overpowered
They did Killer frost so dirty in this movie. Killer Frost does not control Ice, she feeds on heat. Meaning, her cold cannot be resisted as it's the result of your body heat leaving. She doesn't need to be firing icicles or creating ice walls, all she needs is to be near you.
Here's an extra, no bombs would ever work with her ability, since she would instafreeze them from within
"It was me Barry,I desexualized Lola Bunny."
He's a monster!
Nooooooo
it can't be...
NOOOOO
YOU MONSTER
"I literally bought time."
Idk why, but something about that line is so surreal.
@@HOTD108_ You must be fun at parties.
@@HOTD108_ he bought it with his labor. buying something doesn't require money.
Don Beverage he traded labor for time. “Buying” before monetary currency is just trading.
Tom Holford he is a boomer...
@@lweaver2988 he could've also said that he was faster than death
I love how the immortality is explained by saying that Savage has a “get out of hell” free card. I think that’s hilarious
Savage's immortality isn't actually because of the card, he had the card to go to heaven when he eventually died. Savage can be killed but can't die of old age, so he had a card to make sure he went to heaven when someone managed to kill him
Isaac Mendes this savage version was nerfed. Justice league unlimited savage was completely immortal, invulnerable.
@@rayleigh8 interesting. In young justice i think he is immortal aswell
Isaac Mendes
Uh I think this means you’re a giant NERD
@@joeiorio9654 not really i don't even read comics anymore
I just noticed that Zoom has the same face as Barry Allen. I guess they decided to use parts of Zoom’s origin from the early 90s “Return of Barry Allen “story where he was a mega fan of Barry that he recreated the lab accident that gave Barry his powers and also underwent plastic surgery to resemble his idol before time traveling to the past to get his autograph only to find out that not only he would become his arch enemy,but would be murdered by his hero which is what drove him insane.
The card has no value until activated at a register.
LOL
This is such a good comment
The card you take to the counter to get the actual product 😂
🤣
Zoom:Only flash can turn back time
Literally anyone with time travel ability's:Hold my Watch
Were kid flash and iris
Makrokosmos “Tavel”
this cartoon is literally better then every DC movie ever made
Ben 10: "Hold my grape juice"
👏🏽
this whole movie is an example of Speed Force being OP
Funny... Speed control in video games tends to be a similar OP-feeling.
@@silviafox78 Have you ever played Bloodrayne 2? The main character is a dhampyr (half vampire) and when you use super speed everything else slows down instead of us speeding up (from our perspective).
It's so awesome because everyone is almost frozen and we can literally walks circles around the bullets shot (even our own bullets). The bullets are so slow they make tortoises look fast. Speed is definitely the best power in the game, better than super strength. Even teleporting enemies can't do anything because even though they teleport behind you instantly, they take forever to attack.
It makes me feel like Quicksilver in that one scene from the X-Men movie.
@@g.masterlordoftheg-force4770 - yup speed is op :)
@@g.masterlordoftheg-force4770 so are you telling me, max payne has speed force?
@@crewcutter2030Nah. You can't walk faster than a bullet in that game like in Bloodrayne 2.
He is pretty quick though.
I like the fact that when she says "I'll see you in hell", it's almost certain she literally will since hell is real.
You know, this actually explains how the guy was able to stand up for so long after he was shot in the head in Flashpoint Paradox.
He was also still vibrating, which was a little hint
The Earth blew up like 2 minutes after
And that's why paradox hates speedsters lol
What I don't understand is how he got relocated to another timeline, and how he's still able to use his powers even though he's basically using all of it just to stay alive after he got shot in the head.
@@WanderTheNomad the speed force is basically another realm of infinite energy which is constantly being pumped threw zooms body which is keeping his neurons firing so hes still consciouss and not dead YET essentially once those neurons finish the charge they were doing before he used the speed force to slow them down he will drop dead.
this let zoom extended his post eath seconds into a couple of weeks aka letting him still use his powers like normal like running into the mutliverse using the speed force like a highway.
"There is no stopping the Batman"
- Starfire
Until he passes on his title to his successor Terry McGinnis
@@Girard1020 is Batman Beyond canon now or did they just scrap that all entirely? Alternate universe?
@@jjgarcia156 Canon to what?
@@jjgarcia156 so far only canon to 90's batman. The only recent use of batman beyond is some.comic
😂😂😂from the movie
RIP Copperhead. This is probably his best version in movies
2:48 Zoom made the sound effect Naruto makes when a shadow clone dies.
I love how he can explain walking around with a huge bullet hole in head with alternative timeline Batman and the speed force and it’ll make sense in universe.
Except in universe that's not something the speed force can actually do. Yeah it can dilate time to halt the bleeding, but he should still be little more than a writhing mass of human flesh on the floor, crying and contorting into unnatural shapes. That bigass bullet hole cut 1/3rd of his brain right down the middle where the most important bits all live. It's literally the writing equivalent of a kid claiming everything-proof shield in a playground fight.
@@KiraSlith to be fair Zoom Literally said that he, at that moment, was little More than a zombie, his vision Is blurry, he cant feel His body and he loses a lot of His mind everytime he uses His Reverse speedforce, he Is not Alive, he Is dying, all he did was to extend His 3 last seconds of life in another timeline, from the perspective of Thomas and Barry not a single second has passed, the bullet is still inside Zoom's brain
@@KiraSlith
Zone's abilities tend to be inversions of the typical speedster though, so being able to stretch his own personal time is definitely something that can be in his repertoire. In this case it's just something that is worthless unless hes actively dying
@@clayxros576 Except that's not how brains work either. You don't have to be a scientist to know if you scoop 1/3rd of the brain right down the middle, no matter how the slowing works, that brain isn't going to work anymore.
@@KiraSlith
DC Speedforce nonsense. That's all I got for ya lol. I dont like DC and Marvel storytelling anymore for exactly these shenanigans
Like really though. The entire point of the card was to allow the person who died holding it to go to some sort of afterlife, correct? Then *_why the hell would Zoom not just speed himself to death once he had the damn thing?_*
No one knew if it had been used before
The Admiral What?
PandaXclone2 Plot
He wanted to boast to dead shot since they both knew there was nothing he could do to stop him using the card
Suicide is not an easy thing to do. Plus, if he had exhausted his reserves, he'd be pulled back into Flashpoint timeline - not necessarily with the card.
So this was what Thomas Wayne meant when he said "not necessarily" in response to Flash's question "You killed him". He knew he was still alive. Damn the Wayne family is very genius.
"Not necessarily...not if you go back in time and fix this" -Thomas Wayne after shooting Zoom.
Tyler Robbins well he did, why else would Thomas say “not necessarily”
@@Matty6447 "Not necessarily... *not if you go back in time and fix this* " -Thomas Wayne after shooting Zoom.
William Brown Fair enough, forgot the rest of the quote. Though I disagree that Batman is overrated.
Flash created another Flashpoint 😢
I can only imagine how lucky Deadshot felt of living in a world where Batman doesn't kill.
I love how Zoom when fighting the Flash,doesn't give a damn if he dies as long as he takes the Flash down with him. But when he isn't he's frantically trying to avoid ways to die as if he's some sort of coward lol
Yes because he hates Flash with everything he has and dying while killing him would be acceptable, but dying before getting the chance to kill Flash would ruin him.
@@Gankula don’t get how someone that’s dead can be ruined if their life has ended but uh ok
@@Gankula
He's not trying to kill flash. He failed too many times at that. So instead he tries to make his life an absolute hell.
But in a situation where they both die and there's no reset button , thawn would be fine with that
Can't go f-ing around with Flash if he's dead now can he
@@manhmario1500
Well it's not even just that. If flash died, there's no Thawn. Thawn only exists because flash inspired him, plus he's a direct descendant.
So he chooses to make his life a living hell.
This freaking man just won't friccking stop existing.
@OldSchool I think they are just pulling more bullshit things about speed to make him keep living.
... and they say Batman has plot armor.
Hes a chronological oddity
Jonathan Moua well what happened to RF does make sense he became a living paradox. Able to exist outside of any timeline
@@aidankennedy8455 What I dont get is that Flash doesn't kill. If RF knows that killing people hurts flash, why doesnt he just run around killing random people or Iris while flash sleeps overnight or something. Really destroy him instead of other random thoughts.
Jonathan Moua RF told flash “I only kill those who you truly love. So when they die, it’s that much sweeter.” RF hates Barry he doesn’t just kill some random people for the hell of it. He wants to enjoy watching Barry really suffer
0:11. Was everybody fully expecting zoom to take off his mask starting at the nose instead of the collarbone? How does a mask like that even work?
28th century tech
Teddy Oshirak how does a ski mask work?
What? but he started from the bottom, it was not from the nose.
It's like the Spiderman mask. Except he has a cutout for his mouth and nose.
100%, yeah. All the other flashes take it off from the nose. Maybe he just wanted a wierd mask to be different. Reverse flash= hipster of the speedforce
Zoom:it was batman
Deadshot:shit
Zoom:from another timeline
Deadshot:oh thank god
I actually really wanted Copperhead to survive this movie even though I was sure he'd die. This is probably his coolest form
@Damian tudor Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay
It's cute Deadshot thinks he and his friends are the main characters.
Just Some Guy with a Mustache
Whoa whoa whoa whoa! I'm the same guy to see you again from another video. Then the next one. And then another one! 2 hours early to see you! Woooooo!
This is possibly the 30th time
Yeah true; it was even Batman who shot Zoom lol.
Fuuuuuu-
*YOUR MUSTACHE IS MINE*
The reach of your mustache extends even here? What place is even safe anymore?!?
It's like you're everywhere
Deadshot: *taunts Zoom*
Zoom: *walks towards him, explains to the Suicide squad how he jerked his arch enemy at supersonic speed, removes cowl, and how he made Barry thought he came from a women’s touch*
Just came from that video lmao
@@RoyFizzle 😏
God damn you
what video was this?
@@egdirkcol th-cam.com/video/L_n_pRGMlSw/w-d-xo.html
Voice is every good, and I love the idea of him literally buying time using the speed force
Bruh Copperhead is underrated, he gave her a tough time lowkey
Rip copper head. MVP
waller is a huge heartless beatch
RIP COPPERHEAD
@@YearsOVDecay1 bruh low-key you responded to a 5 month old comment
Rip coppy
Reverse Flash looks demonic asf
Amarie Sanders It’s because of the eyes huh?
Amarie Sanders zoom is not reverse
Shadow Production reverse flashes another name is professor zoom
@@shadow7733 it's reverse flash
zoom and reverse flash are total diffrent people
RIP Copperhead. He could've stayed frozen and nobody would've blamed him.
remember when you shot me, and you said “not necessarily?”
IT WAS ME THOMAS
I SHOT MYSELF AT SUPER SPEEDS SO IT SEEMED LIKE YOU USED A GUN
Except it was Thomas Wayne who did it.
who
@@glitchmaster2672 it was Thomas Wayne who shot zoom and said "not necessairly" Bruce Wayne's father.
Watch the flash point paradoks and it'll make sense
There is now
Ahem my dad