The Difference Between Flybar and Flybarless R/C Helicopters
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2024
- A Main Hobbies' lead helicopter technician Greggor McGrath explains the differences between, as well as the benefits and drawbacks of, flybar and flybarless rotor heads for RC helicopters. To browse through our selection of kits, parts, and accessories for RC helicopters, click here: www.amainhobbie...
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i have flybarless with out electronic stability,flies great
I QUIT HELI"S BECAUSE of these damn FBL systems. I tried beastx system and that was an inconsistent disaster. If I didn't get the system exactly right it flew like a drunk and I looked at their website still didn't help. Totally destroyed my heli trying to set it up. Looked at futaba on their website. They had 5 damn video's to setup the damn thing up. My local shop has no one to help me. So now I quit because I can't get parts for my fly bar heli and can't get a new heli with fly bar. So I quit and only do planes. To hell with helicopters. They don't even fly like a helicopter anymore. FBL ruined the heli's for me.
Well that sad to read. So you couldn't manage to get trough the Futaba setup because of lack of help or was it lack of perceived quality of FBL systems ?
What about preformance? is there any difference in preformance between flybar vs flybarrless?
Are flybarless a lot easier to fly? Thinking about upgrading my old school 450 pro but it sounds expensive and idk if it's worth it? I'm not a good pilot. I destroyed it right after building it like 8 years ago. I rebuilt and have been scared to fly it since. It seems the 450 pro is obsolete
I have flown both and I am not a hover around guy. For an intermediate 3D, piro, tick toks, tumbles and such, I fly pretty hard. I don't feel much difference. For sponsored pilots ok but even the high end amateurs don't get a discernable difference in performance, in my opinion. It's a scam. Most important is practice. Is it easier to fly? If you're asking that question, time to re-think your hobby, no part of heli flying is easy. There are no short cuts. Manufacturers may tell you it's easier but it ain't so.
What kind of gyros is needed for the two rotors system like the Chinook?
I have a cheap little fly around 4 channel rc helicopter, it will only move around 7 feet in any direction, then level back out, is there something I can do to fix this(the links are on a sort of swivel between the fly bar and servo input rods)
is there any advantage(pros) of flybar heli over flybarless ?
Flybar is better for beginners because they tend to drag and bounce the skids around on the ground on takeoff and landings. If you do this with flybarless, the flybarless systems usually sense this and try to correct it, which will tip your helicopter over on the ground resulting in a crash. That's why you see more advance pilots with flybarless "pop" the heli of the ground on takeoff and then do an autorotation on landing.
Does flybarless system work with nitro engine?
Awesome thanks
Good
Is the fly bar helicopter more real like to fly than the fly bar less?
I have a HeliMax axe cp 2.4 Paid $200.00 new. It does not fly. The controller is malfunctioning. (will not take commands fwd. right) always flies left rear. have changed all components to those used in the walkera master cp. (including tail motor) It now flies but hates the wind. Can I remove the flybar and change my linkage and make it flybarless? will it fly???
+samuel lubricant Ummm sure... give it a shot.
Can we Do 3D with Flybar system ?
Can hook up 3axis gyro for it ?
Sure, Flybar will 3D, but it is not ideal when compared to Flybarless. Hope this helps!
-Brett
@@AMain_Hobbies Can we hook up vbar for Flybar system?
Hello RC Stuff. The ideal setup would be to remove the mechanical Flybar system and then install the VBar. Otherwise you may have two systems fighting each other. Do you own a Flybar helicopter now or are you interested in getting one?
-Brett
didn't explain anything just said flybar has more parts...
yes that dude is an ASS, What is the difference between them in flight?, what benefits has the flybars ?
ALSO HAVING BAD VIDEO SOUND. THE INTRO KILLED ME
Easier to set up he says haha. sure the mechanical side of the story but the tuning side is not so easy unless you really know what you're doing man. FBL can be much more headache than fly bar that's for sure! At least with fly bar all the work is done up front in getting your head set up right, but after that all your work is done. I've caught hell getting fbl working right, but... that's just me
I suppose the most obvious additional thing people watching this would want to know would be the difficulty level in comparison with each other (depends on various factors obviously but you get the gist).
which one are easier to fly?, What are the benefits of the flybars?
Estuar Gonzalez -
Allow me to extrapolate from my post!
Nah I have no fucking idea lol
I also don't know what "various factors" I was refering to.. there's probably factors involved.. but I don't know which one is easier to fly.. maybe they're the same difficulty lol. Otherwise he probably would of said something about it.. not sure.
Flybar vs FBL. Flybar Pro's: ton's of free parts(rotor heads, flybar rods, linkage, shafts,...etc.), time/money saved not wasted on 3G > Beastx > vBAR. Plus, swapping cheap cyclic servo's to 4x rudder servo's all around. Plus, no hearbreak in "expectation" of "not" moving up one skill level. Everyone says "locked in" but I have yet to meet a piroflipper who didn't already know how to do with FB. Peace.
Flybarred Helicopters Fly a lot better in some cases and are better to learn on such as a 450 Flybarred Heli.. The Flybarless has its positive points as well. In my opinion they are for more experienced Pilots who like hard 3D flying.. The Flybarless units have more adjusting points for fine tuning such as a V-BAR or MICROBEAST System.
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@@happymcslappy3640 and you have been confused for most of your life…👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I felt like he could have mentioned that the flybar heli tries to stop moving forward once the sticks are let go and the flybarless will keep moving in that direction until a reverse stick input is applied.
That’s if stabilization mode is on…
Could anybody explain the physics principle of flybar? I just know it can help helicopter balance,But I wants to understand more about this,For example:angular momentum or Moment of inertia.Please used simple English. Thank you very much :))
I'm not a specialist, but as I see you get no answer, here is mine: when the heli tilts a bit, the flybar will remain horizontal due to gyroscopic effect. This creates an angle between the heli blades and its flybar. This angle will lead, through the linkage between the flybar and the blades, to a variation of the angle of attack of the blades during the rotation, in the purpose to bring the blades rotation back to horizontal level.
thanks for your explaining :))
A flybar is kinda like a gyro and influences the pitch of the heli blade the same way a swashplate would
@@BuBuTwo You can see it as a trim vs a control surface. In fixed wing trim are smaller flyable surfaces used to move a bigger flyable surface. In most case that is only for trim function (hence the name) but there has been aircrafts design where all pilots input goes to the trim and only the trim would in turn move the bigger flyable control surface (MD-80 / DC-9 series)
FBL is more stable,
can you explaine this in italian ???
Danilo Montagnini learn english !
+Danilo Montagnini I guess this video isn't right for you
After the Italian video.. I would also like a Swahili version but with an Australian accent if at all possible.
I find that they fly funny with a flybar when I bank a turn it's just like a plane rolls nice into the turn very easy acts like a plane with flybarless it seems not so easy to the tail just drags around and flight to me looks sloppy I like to have that control. There are pilots that just fly that way but I just don't like the flybarless system I cant get a feel for it I don't care about parts really a good pilot does not crash and should be able to fix it in his or her sleep. I can swap parts on all my helicopters pretty quick not only that rebuilding is parts of this hobby and building aircraft is it's own reward but to each their own I feel flybarless is for 3D pilots mostly that's where you get the benefit. Maybe it's just me?
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Really...FBL needs computer...flybarred doesn't.
I'm having both ways...but for the first love...I love flybarred rc helis than FBL system.
On flybarred you are the brain ...for FBL...then the electronic is the brain...I like manual than the otomatic FBL.
ALL HAS ++ & -- -- ...JUST FLY WHICH WAYS YOU LIKE :)
I'd never go back to flybared.Lag.
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Wow, what a waist of my time watching this one.
You see all that extra junk on that T wrecks flybra less heli in the video... I myself ride the new wave bro sif er.. its similar to the DFC heads.. but they call it UFC.. U Fly Crap... or U Poor Fool.. eaither way the sexiness of the DFC style heads on the market will get your pockets shaking dollars all over the table to get em to take off more of that junk it be wearin..
T Wrecks
pretty much pc vs mac. (mac is flybarless)
No no no, Mac is fixed pitch.
Mac is co-axial also.