The beheaded guy was just someone who was listening to music, sleeping. And the murderer was allegedly just insane. Fuck this, im not sleeping at busses anymore.
He's also living completely free now so that's reassuring. There are people who are serving sentences for possessing weed but murdering and mutilating a man is fine
@@unhandydaddy5117 What's your source for that information? Because people found innocent by insanity plea actually go to an insane asylum for the rest of their life which is infinitely worse than prison because they don't even treat the inmates like they're human, because let's be honest the patients aren't anymore Edit: Didn't realize this was in Canada, things might be different there. That's fucked up if this is true though, no man who possesses no emotion whatsoever while literally stabbing a random innocent man repeatedly and cutting his head off should be able to roam freely.
You aren't kidding. I was just thinking"WTH did I watch previously that made TH-cam recommend this nightmarish video to me"? Surely it wasn't Dead Meat's Kill Count...
@@canem9230no, he had a reoccurring dream a giant hotdog man would chase him all over the place. He couldn’t* perform any errands without him Catching up. Try as he might to muster up his strength the hotdog man would best him and relish in his defeat. Couldn’t sleep, so he did himself in.
Just so everyone knows, the guy who did this didn't even get charged with anything, but instead got put in a Canadian mental facility, and was released in 2015. So what, less than 10 years? There's people in prison for drugs who've done longer.
As a Canadian, this makes me sick. Makes us look like a weak ass country people who do this shit need to get the death penalty. No way they should ever see the light of day
I think the traumatic look on this guy's face wasn't just the actual murder, but the realization that sitting right next to the person meant that he could've been the victim himself.
Yeah but it's mostly from seeing someone being stabbed and beheaded. That kinda thinking doesn't come until later unless you're a complete narrcacist which clearly he isn't .
Wall Of Text WARNING: In case anyone is wondering what this case is, this is the 2008 Greyhound Bus Attack. Tim McLean was a carnival worker who was heading home from work on a Greyhound bus on the Trans-Canada highway. McLean fell asleep sometime around the ride while listening to music on his headphones. As he was passing Manitoba, the passenger sitting next to McLean, Vincent Li brandished a knife and started stabbing the sleeping McLean. A few passengers attempted to save McLean but were injured by Li. He then went back to McLean's body and decapitated him. Li started eating his body and showing the body parts to scared passengers outside. The police were called and a 6 hour stand-off in the bus happened, until Li attempted to escape and was arrested. Sadly, McLean was killed and Li was never given any court cases or charges and was instead sent to a mental asylum, where he would be released a few years later. Li is currently living life free. Meanwhile McLean's family has filed a lawsuit against Greyhound and Vince Li asking for a compensation of $150,000. Despite this, as of 2018 they have not received their compensation according to McLean's father. Otherwise, very sad and brutal story with no happy endings. R.I.P. Tim McLean and fuck Vince Li plus the Canadian Justice System.
@@mondrella627heII isn’t real grow up I edit this comment my god ( yes I did that on purpose) I did not expect to start a massive argument about religion Second edit it’s also interesting jsut how fast this comment got popular when I commented it had like 300-500 likes and I was third replyin 8 days it has thousands of likes and Almost 200 replies
@@punker4RealWhat are you talkin about?? Seeing a beheading is a head trip in itself, you need not be on drugs when viewing something so unreal..Maybe maybe turn to drink after what he just saw. Man that's going to be with him for a long long time along with everyone else who seen 8t.. all on a day where three more people got killed in France one got beheaded I don't think that's a coincidence I think the video purposely put in there
I worked for a transport company for the medical examiner. Someone got in a car accident and severed there head. That's the closest I've come to anything like this.
@@3fammy I still don't understand when innocent is killed like that why the family never does nothing I mean if it was a member of my family I would already have killed that guy
Yeah get him on horrible pharmaceuticals that will really ruin his life, men have seen killing since the beginning of time you’re only traumatised if you’re told to be they want us all weak
@@evergreenrider i think it would- its a fucked thing to witness no matter where you are or what youre doing in life, but i imagine that, coming into a military work, one would expect graphic sights, at least to some extent. its harder to imagine seeing something like this in your day to day life vs when youre an active soldier. again, he'd absolutely have the same reaction let it be civilian or soldier, i imagine, but its the 'what you expect' factor, yknow? a beheading on a random canadian bus isnt as expected as a beheading in an active warzone
Trust me when I say that he will see those images every time he closes his eyes for the rest of his life. It’s been 17 years since I saw someone literally shoot their head off & im still taking meds to go to sleep because I still see that headless body when my eyes close. It NEVER goes away
@@savageclasher1014 What could he have done? He wasnt armed at all. No ex Military is dumb enough to fist fight someone that has a knive over an already dead person,
If Canada would let it's people defend themselves this man's life could have been spared. When you pussies up north get enough of the BS from your GV you will fight for your right to defend yourselves. That POS would have died in the first 10 seconds of the attack if I would have been on that bus. Grow a pair Canada.
@@KevinSago-rs1ys Wow. Can't believe you just talked to our Allies like that. Do you honestly think this guy wouldn't have helped if he could? I wish you were on that bus so we could have seen what you could have done going after a maniac with a huge knife and not other weapon for you to help. By the time the trucker got there, this guy was holding Tims head up. Believe me, Canada has balls and they are way bigger then yours.
Guys this man is clearly in absolute shock. Shock really has a way of making you feel normal in response to horrific situations. His body language and eyes show the horror
A young man was brutally murdered. He was someone's beloved son. The monster who committed this evil act is now free. Is anyone protesting? Aren't Canadians just a little bit worried about this?
Setanta well I live in Winnipeg where the guy is and sure I’m sometimes worried but the guy is schizofranic and dosnt even remember doing it and spent 10 years in rehab. But we do actually do stuff about it
Canadians are worried about violent criminals for sure. Also worried about genetically modified foods, Fukushima and a whole bunch of other criminal violations.
Some international laws need to be invented to correct the criminal event that Fukushima has become. It is going to be far more victimizing than a host of violent psychopaths.
Not really. These questions get sound bites that can then be used to add colour to a written article/write-up. "There was blood everywhere, blood squirting - the floor of the bus is covered in blood". As a journalist, you can't describe the scene this way without someone/something corroborating it - you'd just be guessing otherwise. The interview just happened to make it unedited on TH-cam because it's horrific - lots of the time these questions don't get video coverage but potentially are later used in written coverage/for use in an anchor's teleprompter.
The decapitator is free now and he only got like 9 years damn. He deserves his whole life in there for taking the life of a completely random stranger in such a brutal way.
The killer has since been released and wasn't criminally charged. Simply received mental rehab. Despite even consuming some parts of the young victim. Victims mother was in disbelief finding out he was being released
@@thedefiant3312 Calls him dumbass, proceeds to show that you haven't understood a 6 word sentence by rambling about some unrelated, shallow conspiracy. My eyes hurt.
He didn’t deserve this, although we are better off for having his deliberate account of recounting his experience... but is it worth it at all? Fuck no.
When he talked about the scream that made my hair stand up, you could tell that that scream hit him deep. very sad. Imagine he's right there reading his book, right in his ear he hears this, it's like the worst way to hear something like that, it's like hearing it in the library. I wish him recovery from this. I wish him strength to get past this,.
I think theres a large chance that he will do ok, he will never forget thats for sure, but he is like this because it just happened, he still in fight or flight mood. I believe and hope he will be fine.
@@Blunechi yeah, my buddy went to school for it for a semester and he said that he has witnessed some rly sick shit. One of his teacher bragged about tricking a woman into giving "juicy details" under "free counseling" after her son died.
You can tell from his eyes that he's permanently traumatized but still in shock from the event. I hope he's recovered as well as the rest of the passengers and the driver.
"permanently traumatized" :D Jesus, that's some next level snowflakery in the comments here. A few centuries ago Europe's bravest desperados ventured across the ocean to settle down in a new land, their children were raised in the wilderness and forged by the Wild West. And now their cuck descendants talking about ptsd and "recovering for 15 years" after seeing one guy losing his head. What happened to you boyz, too much soy milk?
Jesus Christ is the Living God he is Real and he healed me he wants us all to live Forever and with him in Heaven but we cannot let our sin separate us from his Perfect love The Creator Jesus🙏💟He loves us soo much!!💯
The mother of the victim is a witch. Her son's girlfriend was pregnant when her son was beheaded and as soon as her grandson was born she used her influence to get him taken off the mother and now the mother is a wreck. The grandmother hasn't let the mother see her son in years. She loses her son and then steals another woman's son. Horrible person. No wonder bad things happened to her.
@@starscreamofvos absolutely. animals are the sweetest beings on earth too and billions support their torture and slaughter :/ thanks for commenting that
For anyone wanting to know more about the victim, at the time of his murder he was only 23 years old. His name was Tim McLean. This happened in Canada in 2008. His murder was a schizophrenic named Vincent Li who was recently released from prison which I assume is because he plead mental instability. Tim would’ve been 35 this year. So sad :(
@@sfan26 nope not that I could find. as far as I know, Vincent was schizophrenic or at least claimed to be. he just randomly decapitated Tim and ate parts of his body infront of everyone on the bus
Journalist - “Did you see anything like this before?” “Yes, I often find myself in situations where I witness a dude being stabbed to death and decapitated.”
right. guy" yea stabbed guy till his head came off" news person "was it bloody?" no actually everyone that wasn't involved started licking up all the blood.
When I was 10, I witnessed people being beheaded, shot killed, or hung in my country during the war. To this day, at 23, I struggle with the trauma. This happened in 2010 in Syria.
I hope your able to heal, we can witness atrocities and walk away, a lot of survival guilt comes with it, use your voice, i hope you heal, destruction is a terrible thing to witness, thoughts and prayers aren't enough and i know that, and i know you know that, life is hard. Healing is all we can do for those incapable of it. Heal for those who cant, live for those who cant, breath for those who cant, i love you bro and i hope you are experiencing life again safe and sound
Jesus Christ is the Living God he is Real and he healed me he wants us all to live Forever and with him in Heaven but we cannot let our sin separate us from his Perfect love The Creator Jesus🙏💟He loves us soo much!💯
All things considered he dealt with it well, and the situation could have ended up being worse. But knowing trauma and the way specific memories I have are still vivid decades later, I'm confident that nobody could come away from this the same way, and nobody could ever forget something so sickening. I still remember hearing about this and just the thought of it affected me for weeks.
@The Venomous Worse (adjective) - 1. of poorer quality or lower standard; less good or desirable. 2. more ill or unhappy. (Adverb) - less well or skillfully (Noun) - a more serious or unpleasant event or situation. Yes, someone was decapitated. If not for the actions of a few of the men involved, multiple people could have lost their lives, or at the very least have been injured. That would have been "a more serious or unpleasant event or situation". It's a miracle more people didn't get hurt, so yes it easily could have been far worse. You can't compare something to itself genius, that's redundant. It's like saying "chocolate tastes worse than chocolate" which is nonsense.
@The Venomous Look I know what you're trying to say, but saying "if 2 or more people had gotten killed it would have been the same result" makes no sense. 2 deaths are inherently worse than 1 death no matter what, and the result is measurably worse by exactly that - a life. If it was someone in your family it would make a huge difference to you, so please don't equate a single murder to multiple murders. If everyone on the bus had been killed, for example, then it couldn't have been much worse than that could it? 1/37 vs 2/37 or 37/37.
A lot of people don’t know one of the worst details: the man responsible is named Vince Lee, and he changed his name to Will Lee Baker in 2015 after he was released after spending just seven years in a psychiatric ward for the crime. As of 2017 he was granted independent living rights. This man is walking around free without any restrictions whatsoever having served zero prison time. No, this isn’t a rumor. Canada: “This man murdered, decapitated and cannibalized a man in front of a lot of people on a Greyhound bus. Give him a high-five and wish him well on his way to Manitoba! He wants to fish!”
@@AlBrownComedy So horrible! But now Karla gets to have her own family. Took the option away from her sister but you know, it’s Canada. Not shocking she was released.
yeah but just imagine if the guy was like "yeah, this is the sixth time i've seen somebody randomly murder another person beside me." turns out he's cursed and lives in some sort of lovecraftian horror world
@Form Emptiness Ah, yeah. I’ve seen those dark web videos of people being decapitated. That fucked me up badly. I remember being scared to leave my house for months.
I think this dude's relaxed and cool about it. See he loves the camera. If I were to see that horrific scene I wouldn't want to be interviewed and just admit myself to psych hospital lol
@Phi Vai I mean to establish if they have maybe seen anything like it before even if its an incredibly small chance you could still have someone say they have seen it before.
He was schizophrenic. He was having hallucinations of “God” telling him to kill that guy, because according to the voice, the guy was a demon and was going to kill him. After he realized what happened, he pleaded for someone to kill him. He was released because of that, he couldn’t be held accountable of his crime.
@@Jumbo344 When you're in shock humans are capable of just about everything. It's when the adrenaline leaves you that you fall apart. Being male helps as well as the placement of male dopamine receptor clusters are more receptive to danger on average.
This man is so composed telling this absolutely horrific story. Props to him. Can't imagine how he felt once the shock wore off... Hope he isn't haunted by this
He even said “I’m probably still in shock..” which. I’ve witnessed a fatal accident and when the EMT asked if I was ok I said the same thing. Sure enough. Years later I still white knuckle driving in the rain or snow I can’t IMAGINE the long lasting effects for this guy.
That's what trauma does. It's a demon that makes you lose control of your thoughts putting your emotions back in that moment. I live with PTSD so I know what this man is feeling. Poor guy.
I keep searching his name to see how he is doing or if he even is alive today but I can find nothing on him. According to different articles, His name is Garnet Caton. I searched different social media platforms but he isn't there and I haven't heard of anyone else who has information on him. 🙁
@@chanyeolsass5201 he changed his name and is now living a new life because he was diagnosed with untreated schizophrenia. His new name is will baker I’m not sure though
I noticed how his actions and answers were calm and consice, but his eyes said it all.Those memories will be scorched in his mind for life. Your mention of soldiers and marines who have been in combat makes me think of the term "the thousand yard stare" that afflicted shell shocked soldiers in the trenches of WW1.
@@ruthlassnoGABA73 Exactly. I know that stare. I was a nurse at a VA hospital for a couple years before becoming an ICU nurse in a public hospital. Before that, I served in the Marine Corps in supply and was reserves while I went to school after active duty. I've seen too many empty stares from eyes that see the horror of war being replayed in their minds. God, help us all.
Yeah don't, something similar happened in nyc train during Covid time in April. Guy was sleeping then got stabbed in neck and killed so the news says. 😓
One of the cops who responded to this crime suffered with ptsd for years afterwards until he finally took his own life. This crime has more than one victim
This is terrifying. The fact he just attacked the other dude for no reason at all , just random attack with no mercy 😢😰 I would be terrified of going near strangers if this happened near me
That’s because people defunded mental institutions and straight up ended the Death Penalty in some States and Countries, there’s ways to detect this kind of behavior from 2 years old, at least 1/3 of the free population should be in a padded cell, but they’re homeless and a blink away from attacking anyone.
How? What do his eyes look like, other than normal? He doesnt look traumatized at all, speaking very coherently, and goes on for 7 minutes in great detail. His eyes tell no stories at all you dickhead
@@AdamRouse999 when someone has witnessed something horrible or stressful, their eyes seem more open and their iris are actually darker and more deep, no sunlight shining through them. You can't see any form of life in them. Btw his body language is pretty much explaining how he felt back then. You can see how destroyed and traumatized he look. I would too if it wouldn't have been for my sadistic nature where I take pleasure in seeing others hurt but even I have limits and I feel for this guy. No human being should have to see that in today's modern era. Guess we aren't too far ahead of the middle ages after all.
AdamRouse999 What video are you watching? Anyone with a hint of intellect can tell the guys nerves are shot. He’s moving around constantly, wide eyed, and fumbles over his words frequently. Also take 999 outta your name. You’re doing Juice a disservice with those numbers in your name “dickhead”.
@@hilnoh8581 I said the same thing, anybody who has not witnessed too often has no idea what it looks like when someone is traumatized. And I thought I looked traumatized after waking up from nearly dying of suffocation in my sleep. I don't like those 999 numbers, I prefer them upside down 666 cause it makes me comfortable knowing that I'll be seeing Adam in hell after my death.
Danny Verdant I mean I’ve never been traumatized before but I can tell that this guy definitely has been. It shouldn’t take a medical expert to see that. Also not dissing you just confused on what the other guy was saying. Anyway that sucks about you almost suffocating in your sleep hope all’s well. And it’s cool if you don’t like the whole 999 thing, but nobody should have it in their name and not represent what 999 stands for or at least not diss people for no reason.
@@SuperCakeKing Not doubting what your saying but you really don't know what your gonna do in a situation like that, unless you have been through something like it before. I'm thinking there was a pause before anybody did anything. Your mind isn't prepared for that kind of thing out of the blue.
This man seems like a generally good person, and he looks like an every day person, and it really shows that not just war heroes or emergency services can get PTSD from horrific events like this. I hope he's doing so much better now, and he's doing alright.
He's surprisingly articulate for someone who had just witnessed a horrible event and probably hardly had time to process what had happened. My heart goes out to him. His eyes reflect how much of a terror the whole experience must have been.
Interviewer: “Have you ever seen anything like this before?” Witness: (Politely and nonchalantly) “No, I’ve never seen a beheading.” -The most Canadian conversation of all time.
One of my best friends passed away like this. He was on his way to community college on the public bus here in LA and a man next to him out of nowhere pulled out a knife and started stabbing him in the face and chest, people just watched in fear and the man escaped and ran out. My friend was in the hospital for about a week before passing from his injuries. They caught the guy after they posted the video surveillance three days later, the attack was totally unprovoked and random. You never know what can happen, he was only 22 years old. RIP ❤️
damn i lost my uncle from i believe a heart disease, me and him shared a birthday and he ended up in the hospital and i send him a message to get better and a couple months later he passes on 4/12/19 i cried my heart out and it sucks becuz his mom is like one the best person in the world and she got covid and im scared that im gonna lose her. 11/24/96- 4/12/19😥🙏🏽🕊 rip to yo homeboy
when a eprson gest stabbed it looks horrible to watch, one of the worst things to see outide a movie, it ruines your day. you just can't beliueve that it would actually happen in real life.
It’s ok, Vincent Li has promised to stay on his medications. He has changed his name and walks freely amongst us… Why is it that only victims have no rights?
Because Canada is opposite land, everything that happens is the opposite. Women have power, cops do nothing but strut around in their uniforms, junkies are mollycoddled, etc. In the states they would have fried his ass for killing that guy.
He was schizophrenic, he had a long history of it. Obviously not morally culpable. I get it, you want someone to blame, but a death like this is more like a death from a natural disaster, it's not really anyone's fault, it's just the sad reality we live in that our neurological equipment is an extremely sensitive blob of fat that's prone to physiological errors.
The worst part is they let him go free in 2015. Somebody stabbed, beheaded and cannibalized a person and was released while others are doing years for cannabis possession🤦🏾♂️
@@Jason-wc3fh Ok, please provide a reliable source for someone who had mot committed any other crime before and who spent years in prison for simple possession, in the last 30 years.
@@samack3 that's shock, when you haven't processed what's happened yet you can recall things matter of factly, that's why as he went on it got harder for him to say details as it was recounted it got more real for him. So sad.
the patience on this guy is next level too, the questions are getting dumber and dumber as the video goes on like “was there a lot of blood?” like bro wdyt 😂😂
@@solemns I reread your comment multiple times before posting my reply but I couldn't understand exactly cuz my energy level wasn't the highest at the the time and English isn't my first language, but u understand now 😅
“There was a guy beside me... he was bigger... I was thinking maybe we could do something to help the guy but the other guy took off so it was just me” broke my heart. To anyone with survivor’s guilt, it isn’t your fault, there is help available.
I was on the Appalachian Trail in 2019, when the hiker Sovereign murdered another hiker named Stronghold. I didnt get to see it, and never met Sovereign but I spoke to several people who did. One of them was a massive veteran who'd fought in Afghanistan on multiple deployments. He was far larger than Sovereign, and he flat out admitted that the moment Sovereign pulled his machete on him, he fled. Schizophrenia gives you more muscle and mental power than crack and meth combined. Now give schizophrenia a knife, and even a massive, jacked veteran, whose seen the worst of battle, will flee.
@EndofMusic I was in the loony bin several times, with schizophrenia patients for my roommates, and got to learn all about the *awesome* power of a psychotic break. A schizo will pull their eyeballs out of their sockets to get the "hidden cameras" out of their heads, and not feel a thing.
Hate how this guy will probably feel guilty his whole life just for not being able to save the victim. Heart goes out to him, hopefully he’ll be able to mentally recover
@@travelleryu ehh, no dude. Even if his actions were motivated by historical injustices, two wrongs never make a right, particularly when doing something as nasty and vicious as what was witnessed in this instance.
I'm really freaked out thinking about being the guy being attacked.. one second you're just sitting there listening to music and the next there's a guy stabbing you in the throat and sawing your head off
The most terrifying part is that this guy, the victim, lost his life in broad daylight on a bus full of people. You may think that you are safe, surrounded by people in a public space, but no. All it took was one guy with a knife and no one did anything at all to help. I'm not blaming anyone for not helping, I understand that most people react to shocking events by running and saving themselves, it is human nature. I am simply pointing out just how horrific it is that no matter where you are, no matter who you're with, you are never truly safe.
This is horrible man poor guy was just listening to his headphones he did not deserve that! And to everybody that seen this happened I hope you are all okay.
@@christopherwells3426 no, its in the report that tim was sleeping with his head on the window and his headphones on. It was all caught on film. The cops reviewed all of the footage captured that day. When the attack started tim was asleep.
@@christopherwells3426 "Li, described as a tall man in his 40s, with a shaved head and sunglasses, originally sat near the front of the bus, but moved to sit next to McLean following a scheduled rest stop. McLean "barely acknowledged" Li, then fell asleep against the window pane, headphones covering his ears."
The beheaded guy was just someone who was listening to music, sleeping. And the murderer was allegedly just insane. Fuck this, im not sleeping at busses anymore.
fucked up tho
He's also living completely free now so that's reassuring. There are people who are serving sentences for possessing weed but murdering and mutilating a man is fine
@@unhandydaddy5117 the world is stupid
And get stopped by racist police
@@unhandydaddy5117 What's your source for that information? Because people found innocent by insanity plea actually go to an insane asylum for the rest of their life which is infinitely worse than prison because they don't even treat the inmates like they're human, because let's be honest the patients aren't anymore
Edit: Didn't realize this was in Canada, things might be different there. That's fucked up if this is true though, no man who possesses no emotion whatsoever while literally stabbing a random innocent man repeatedly and cutting his head off should be able to roam freely.
TH-cam really threw us all a weird one this week, huh?
You wouldn’t find this that weird now would you?
Lol negan
Happy Halloween
You aren't kidding. I was just thinking"WTH did I watch previously that made TH-cam recommend this nightmarish video to me"? Surely it wasn't Dead Meat's Kill Count...
That’s a goddamn understatement because holy Jesus this one was brutal.
This guys eyes are so wide the whole time you can tell he’s in shock.
@mjv Yea true, being in shock would lead to more like the Until Dawn ending interviews. Those kids, they’re in shock.
@mjv he literally said he’s still in shock, stop trying to be professor youtube
@@clipsahoii That doesn't mean he actually is in shock.
This isn’t shock dummy he’s in denial
And disbelief
The crazy part is that one of the first responders (Ken Barker) took his own life after years struggling with PTSD from this incident. It's so sad ..
thats wild
He probably had nightmares seeing a decapitated person
@@canem9230no, he had a reoccurring dream a giant hotdog man would chase him all over the place. He couldn’t* perform any errands without him Catching up. Try as he might to muster up his strength the hotdog man would best him and relish in his defeat. Couldn’t sleep, so he did himself in.
@@byDefAlt06Genuinely, not funny..
@@The_Last_Normanwhat did they say?
could you imagine serving 5 years in the military with nothing traumatic only to get PTSD as a civilian?
son of a bitch u just can't win
We all get traumatized before we inevitably die and cease to exist. Isn’t life beautiful
@@ethanieldude1 wrong not true
Wrong on both accounts actually Ethan.
There are very few people left that worked this case that haven't killed themselves it was so traumatic.
Just so everyone knows, the guy who did this didn't even get charged with anything, but instead got put in a Canadian mental facility, and was released in 2015. So what, less than 10 years? There's people in prison for drugs who've done longer.
That didn't serve justice to the victim .
As a Canadian, this makes me sick. Makes us look like a weak ass country people who do this shit need to get the death penalty. No way they should ever see the light of day
To be fair he was a schizophrenic and the American system is far worse than that. Much more unfair with the sentences
Did he serve his time in Selkirk?
Damn that’s absolutely incredibly DISGUSTING!!!!! How does this even remotely make sense or seem like any kind of justice?
I think the traumatic look on this guy's face wasn't just the actual murder, but the realization that sitting right next to the person meant that he could've been the victim himself.
Or maybe he’s traumatized by the head being cut off like tf think
@angels333 so quick to say dumb gg
@Wickedd08 I don't think that's selfish, just one of the thoughts you could have really.
@Wickedd08 being selfish isn't always a bad thing. You have to have some type of self preservation or you will no longer exist
Yeah but it's mostly from seeing someone being stabbed and beheaded. That kinda thinking doesn't come until later unless you're a complete narrcacist which clearly he isn't .
Wall Of Text WARNING:
In case anyone is wondering what this case is, this is the 2008 Greyhound Bus Attack. Tim McLean was a carnival worker who was heading home from work on a Greyhound bus on the Trans-Canada highway. McLean fell asleep sometime around the ride while listening to music on his headphones. As he was passing Manitoba, the passenger sitting next to McLean, Vincent Li brandished a knife and started stabbing the sleeping McLean. A few passengers attempted to save McLean but were injured by Li. He then went back to McLean's body and decapitated him. Li started eating his body and showing the body parts to scared passengers outside. The police were called and a 6 hour stand-off in the bus happened, until Li attempted to escape and was arrested.
Sadly, McLean was killed and Li was never given any court cases or charges and was instead sent to a mental asylum, where he would be released a few years later. Li is currently living life free.
Meanwhile McLean's family has filed a lawsuit against Greyhound and Vince Li asking for a compensation of $150,000. Despite this, as of 2018 they have not received their compensation according to McLean's father.
Otherwise, very sad and brutal story with no happy endings. R.I.P. Tim McLean and fuck Vince Li plus the Canadian Justice System.
And this is why hell excists. There is no real justice on earth
oh well
@@mondrella627heII isn’t real grow up
I edit this comment my god ( yes I did that on purpose) I did not expect to start a massive argument about religion
Second edit it’s also interesting jsut how fast this comment got popular when I commented it had like 300-500 likes and I was third replyin 8 days it has thousands of likes and Almost 200 replies
@@t.n.h.ptheneohumanpatterna8334 yeah it does, i checked
@@t.n.h.ptheneohumanpatterna8334 "Grow up" yeah ok redditor.
This guy explained the whole story better than a horror movie
Strangely also resembles Michael Myers, coincidence? I think NOT (haha)
People trying to explain shot in horror movies are so bad. “Run just run!” Why? What’s wrong? “THERES NO TIME JUST RUN!”
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Tim_McLean
Max
Trauma does that. You remember every detail. Hope the dude is doing well though.
TH-cam: "Let's put a traumatised guy talk about a beheading in everyone's recommended"
Yeah i'm out here trying to sleep at 4:56am but you know youtube
Yeah it was in my recommended as well, I don't even search for anything like this, it's like TH-cams trying to get us hooked on this crap.
i think it has to do with the beheading in Paris two weeks ago
it's still currently a hot topic
Rite? Lol
And let's shadow ban PewDiePie.
That's one likeable dude who saw something horrible.
Seriously, He wanted to take him down, but no one would join him.
nice username
looks and talking like he was stoned
@@punker4Real Would like to see how you react after seeing someone chop another dude's head off next you
@@punker4RealWhat are you talkin about?? Seeing a beheading is a head trip in itself, you need not be on drugs when viewing something so unreal..Maybe maybe turn to drink after what he just saw. Man that's going to be with him for a long long time along with everyone else who seen 8t.. all on a day where three more people got killed in France one got beheaded I don't think that's a coincidence I think the video purposely put in there
I swear youtube just randomly puts this up on everybody's recommended once every four years to traumatize us again and again lol
Yeah I didn't expect this
ya I'm always tryin to be the one who doesn't get scared by anything but this is something else. Thanks TH-cam
Ikr
Whoa, it is every four years...what is that
fr
Stupidest question ever: "have you seen anything like this before?".
"Yeah i saw it in a premonition but it was me cutting off your head."
Yea that's actually the third beheading I've seen so far nothing out of the ordinary
Well if he’s been in the military, but he didn’t go overseas...
I know. Who HASN'T seen Friday the 13th.
I worked for a transport company for the medical examiner. Someone got in a car accident and severed there head. That's the closest I've come to anything like this.
The most disturbing fact is that the guy was just sleeping, dude ... what the hell
and that the killer is living a free life today
@@nathanharrison3855 I dont understand about the law but boy.. that killer is probably still insane. It's just so extreme..
That's Winnipeg for ya
@@3fammy I still don't understand when innocent is killed like that why the family never does nothing I mean if it was a member of my family I would already have killed that guy
@@mehdih8165 subduing someone and successfully killing them is not easy. They also don't wanna get in trouble and make things worse for the family.
Title was misleading, thought someone got hit buy a bus and lost their head...
This is way worse
I thought so too
Me too
Ditto
Same. And why are all the comments only a month old??
Not really that would be a freak accident a “beheading” is pretty self explanatory
The way that he described the death scream, "between a dog howling and a baby crying". Its giving me chills that i can actually imagine it.
That is genuinely fucking terrifying.
810-12%
Man feeling sorry for the victim nobody deserves this
Like an Aztec death whistle
Imagine how common it is to see this kind of thing in Latin America...
This is what trauma looks like in the eyes of a human.
Its heartbreaking
I like how he said the dude was sleeping listening to music and the camera man zooms in on his lips
@@tacos420.7 that was the best part! 🤣
@@stephaniehopkins2999 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah get him on horrible pharmaceuticals that will really ruin his life, men have seen killing since the beginning of time you’re only traumatised if you’re told to be they want us all weak
Guy: *gets stabbed and beheaded*
Reporter: "Was there blood?"
"Weirdest shit happened, rainbow sprinkles came out his fucking neck."
"Have you ever seen anything like this before?"
"No, it was censored"
I'd look at the reporter like: 😐....😑
"Have you seen horror movies?" Why do u think they use blood?
I laughed a little too hard .
Did anyone else think a bus was literally going to take someone’s head off
Yeah, I did too
Yup
Yea
I did
Yup
What a weird algorithm TH-cam is on. Anyone else recommended this November 2024
Yeah. It might have something to do with Evil.
Me2
Distracting us after the ICC said Nethanyahu is a war criminal
Yup
Group hugs my friends. This is terrifying to listen to.
Crazy to think the killer is free now and is able to live on his own. C'mon Canada wtf.
He’s on probation that ensures he’s taking pills and is monitored closely but I still also believe he should be in a psychiatric ward for life
Really? Canada let's people who rape and murder out after a few years, so it isn't THAT surprising.
@@artvandelayRFC he never said it's hard to believe. He implied that it's absolutely fucked, which it is. Behind bars or dead. I'm good with either.
@keecefly Ok fedora tipper
@keecefly he fucking beheaded an innocent man. He needs to be institutionalized to protect the public.
imagine serving in the army for 5 years free from traumatic experiences just to get ptsd as a civilian
No kidding, absolutely horrific.
hits you differently when you don't expect it
@@Chranat0r not really
Life is crazy
@@evergreenrider i think it would- its a fucked thing to witness no matter where you are or what youre doing in life, but i imagine that, coming into a military work, one would expect graphic sights, at least to some extent. its harder to imagine seeing something like this in your day to day life vs when youre an active soldier. again, he'd absolutely have the same reaction let it be civilian or soldier, i imagine, but its the 'what you expect' factor, yknow? a beheading on a random canadian bus isnt as expected as a beheading in an active warzone
I feel bad for this guy, he probably has this memory for life.
Trust me when I say that he will see those images every time he closes his eyes for the rest of his life. It’s been 17 years since I saw someone literally shoot their head off & im still taking meds to go to sleep because I still see that headless body when my eyes close. It NEVER goes away
@@kimg6911 😢😱😱
@Anissa Voskan Grikorian you can't get trauma if you are dead inside
Kim G I’m sorry you had to see that & still are going through it. Ptsd isn’t a joke at all. ☹️ I’m so sorry 😞
He sadly took his own life..
The fact that this dude is prior military does not surprise me. The way he responded and the way he explains the situation.
exactly. Also this is what popped up on my feed whilst looking for a bus ticket…
@@jennanewell6291 LoL
He didn’t even help the victim
@@savageclasher1014 What could he have done? He wasnt armed at all. No ex Military is dumb enough to fist fight someone that has a knive over an already dead person,
@@fox4delta bro he was a military personnel they learn to disarm an attacker with a knife there
I hate how guilty he feels that he couldn’t do anything.
@DeathToMasons yes you are
@DeathToMasons what are you a Pokémon?
If Canada would let it's people defend themselves this man's life could have been spared. When you pussies up north get enough of the BS from your GV you will fight for your right to defend yourselves. That POS would have died in the first 10 seconds of the attack if I would have been on that bus. Grow a pair Canada.
RatedASMR , thanks for being human and thinking about the poor guy who witnessed this and couldn't help. Ignore these ignoramus A.H's
@@KevinSago-rs1ys Wow. Can't believe you just talked to our Allies like that. Do you honestly think this guy wouldn't have helped if he could? I wish you were on that bus so we could have seen what you could have done going after a maniac with a huge knife and not other weapon for you to help. By the time the trucker got there, this guy was holding Tims head up. Believe me, Canada has balls and they are way bigger then yours.
Guys this man is clearly in absolute shock. Shock really has a way of making you feel normal in response to horrific situations. His body language and eyes show the horror
@@Scumxixxx
It's like you took the most overly presupposed caricature of what shock is and tried to correct someone with it lol
Shock is when your blood vessels dilate
Wtf are u on about
@@Scumxixxx clearly you’ve never been in shock
You realize it way later. Mostly the next morning 🥴
He was in the military so he was able to keep himself composed, I hope to god that no children were in the bus.
A young man was brutally murdered. He was someone's beloved son. The monster who committed this evil act is now free. Is anyone protesting? Aren't Canadians just a little bit worried about this?
the killer was a great hunter,the mounties respect that
Setanta well I live in Winnipeg where the guy is and sure I’m sometimes worried but the guy is schizofranic and dosnt even remember doing it and spent 10 years in rehab. But we do actually do stuff about it
Cohzee. Exactly plus he has schizophrenia so he was basicly in a different world and dosnt even remember killing the guy.
Canadians are worried about violent criminals for sure. Also worried about genetically modified foods, Fukushima and a whole bunch of other criminal violations.
Some international laws need to be invented to correct the criminal event that Fukushima has become. It is going to be far more victimizing than a host of violent psychopaths.
“Was there a lot of blood?” -smartest interview question ever recorded.
"have you seen anything like this before?"
@@Oldpopcorn what a dumb question 🤣
At that point he was just asking for the sake of it
Not really. These questions get sound bites that can then be used to add colour to a written article/write-up. "There was blood everywhere, blood squirting - the floor of the bus is covered in blood".
As a journalist, you can't describe the scene this way without someone/something corroborating it - you'd just be guessing otherwise. The interview just happened to make it unedited on TH-cam because it's horrific - lots of the time these questions don't get video coverage but potentially are later used in written coverage/for use in an anchor's teleprompter.
@@chipd4911 Yes, good thinking
This poor man's eyes says it all.. cant even imagine the shock
yea and there are 3 people sticking up microphones in his face i can imagine how he felt
Is like being scared non-stop I guess, so you try to react and not freak out at the same time
I mean literally I don't think that state of shock would ever really wear off like Did that seriously happen
Yeah you can tell he's still in shock. I really hope he's able to get that image out of his head. :(
wow exactly what I was just thinking
The decapitator is free now and he only got like 9 years damn. He deserves his whole life in there for taking the life of a completely random stranger in such a brutal way.
Cap
Wait are you sure how the fuck would he be out?
@@cliffordlevy3918 Who cares, he's dangerous, lock him up and throw away the key.
I thought it was only 2 years in house lockdown? I remember when this happened but I don't recall the guy staying in longer than two years.
whats his name?
The killer has since been released and wasn't criminally charged. Simply received mental rehab. Despite even consuming some parts of the young victim. Victims mother was in disbelief finding out he was being released
Wtf is Canada’s legal system doing
@@thedefiant3312 Calls him dumbass, proceeds to show that you haven't understood a 6 word sentence by rambling about some unrelated, shallow conspiracy. My eyes hurt.
Canada's law system's absolutely snorting pop rocks on this one
@@BenDover-vh9rs I'm late to this... and he has since deleted his comment. What did he say ? Just out of curiosity lol
@@toxicxbox1825 You can go to federal prison in Canada for misgendering someone but not beheading someone on public transit.
He's describing it while seeing it in his head vividly, burned into his brain
You can see the trauma in the guy just by looking at how wide open his eyes get when he tells the story so sad
He didn’t deserve this, although we are better off for having his deliberate account of recounting his experience... but is it worth it at all? Fuck no.
When he talked about the scream that made my hair stand up, you could tell that that scream hit him deep. very sad. Imagine he's right there reading his book, right in his ear he hears this, it's like the worst way to hear something like that, it's like hearing it in the library. I wish him recovery from this. I wish him strength to get past this,.
@@praetorianstride5948 he gave consent to the interview
I think theres a large chance that he will do ok, he will never forget thats for sure, but he is like this because it just happened, he still in fight or flight mood.
I believe and hope he will be fine.
Complete deer in the headlights
"After five or six stabs he must of cut his throat 'cause we didn't hear him anymore" that is the most chilling thing I've ever heard
I know right
Chills
Go listen to “ dancing with the devil”
@@smokingjoint4661 what’s that?
Special Snowflake dancing with the devil immortal technique
Guy: clearly has PTSD after horrific beheading
Journalist: *Describe his death scream*
What the actual fuck?
Journalists are scum of the earth
@@Blunechi yeah, my buddy went to school for it for a semester and he said that he has witnessed some rly sick shit. One of his teacher bragged about tricking a woman into giving "juicy details" under "free counseling" after her son died.
@@vampirepossum8544 wow, it’s truly horrendous how selfish people are, it’s fucking sickening
Speaking about it helps prevent from future ptsd
@@QualityFirstHQ yeah but in front of a psychiatrist or therapist, dude 😰
You can tell from his eyes that he's permanently traumatized but still in shock from the event. I hope he's recovered as well as the rest of the passengers and the driver.
"permanently traumatized" :D Jesus, that's some next level snowflakery in the comments here. A few centuries ago Europe's bravest desperados ventured across the ocean to settle down in a new land, their children were raised in the wilderness and forged by the Wild West. And now their cuck descendants talking about ptsd and "recovering for 15 years" after seeing one guy losing his head. What happened to you boyz, too much soy milk?
@@abcdefg5459 need more laws for white people. pagans
You’re from an immigrant family. Your family aren’t indigenous to that land are they? So stfu
Jesus Christ is the Living God he is Real and he healed me he wants us all to live Forever and with him in Heaven but we cannot let our sin separate us from his Perfect love
The Creator Jesus🙏💟He loves us soo much!!💯
The mother of the victim is a witch. Her son's girlfriend was pregnant when her son was beheaded and as soon as her grandson was born she used her influence to get him taken off the mother and now the mother is a wreck. The grandmother hasn't let the mother see her son in years. She loses her son and then steals another woman's son. Horrible person. No wonder bad things happened to her.
The victim didn't even know his killer? It was a random killing? That's scary.
@@starscreamofvos Exactly, such a sad and cruel world we live in.
@@starscreamofvos absolutely. animals are the sweetest beings on earth too and billions support their torture and slaughter :/ thanks for commenting that
He got off on it too because the court found him unfit to stand trial due to apparent psychosis.
Thats how im feeling ion trust nobody rn
@@vegansrirachamac nature is metal, bro. sweetest my ass
For anyone wanting to know more about the victim, at the time of his murder he was only 23 years old. His name was Tim McLean. This happened in Canada in 2008. His murder was a schizophrenic named Vincent Li who was recently released from prison which I assume is because he plead mental instability. Tim would’ve been 35 this year. So sad :(
Thank you❤
THATS CRAZYYYYYYYYYYYYY
So it was random? No kind of relation to the murderer?
@@sfan26 nope not that I could find. as far as I know, Vincent was schizophrenic or at least claimed to be. he just randomly decapitated Tim and ate parts of his body infront of everyone on the bus
Damn ate pieces of him too? And they released him? ridiculous
Journalist - “Did you see anything like this before?”
“Yes, I often find myself in situations where I witness a dude being stabbed to death and decapitated.”
right.
guy" yea stabbed guy till his head came off"
news person "was it bloody?"
no actually everyone that wasn't involved started licking up all the blood.
Despite it being a stupid question in one sense, I think they were asking him because he seemed to be taking it all quite well in his stride
@@mollyswyft5079 So then ask a question that isn’t idiotic. How he was handling it is irrelevant to the stupidity of the journalist.
@Noha I would be terrible being interviewed by a journalist asking me questions like that. 😂
Dumbest question ever asked of a witness
When I was 10, I witnessed people being beheaded, shot killed, or hung in my country during the war. To this day, at 23, I struggle with the trauma. This happened in 2010 in Syria.
I’m so sorry you had to go through that. I hope you recover and heal from your trauma.
I hope your able to heal, we can witness atrocities and walk away, a lot of survival guilt comes with it, use your voice, i hope you heal, destruction is a terrible thing to witness, thoughts and prayers aren't enough and i know that, and i know you know that, life is hard. Healing is all we can do for those incapable of it. Heal for those who cant, live for those who cant, breath for those who cant, i love you bro and i hope you are experiencing life again safe and sound
Jesus Christ is the Living God he is Real and he healed me he wants us all to live Forever and with him in Heaven but we cannot let our sin separate us from his Perfect love
The Creator Jesus🙏💟He loves us soo much!💯
i hope you can heal one day ❤️ violence is so hard to process, i understand why you’re still struggling, be strong
Yeah right. Recover from what? Viscerally disturbing and fucked memories? Yeah right
This poor dude has probably not gotten over this still.
I was thinking that poor guy looks like he's in shock
All things considered he dealt with it well, and the situation could have ended up being worse. But knowing trauma and the way specific memories I have are still vivid decades later, I'm confident that nobody could come away from this the same way, and nobody could ever forget something so sickening. I still remember hearing about this and just the thought of it affected me for weeks.
Well how tf do you get over something like that?
@The Venomous
Worse (adjective) -
1. of poorer quality or lower standard; less good or desirable.
2. more ill or unhappy.
(Adverb)
- less well or skillfully
(Noun)
- a more serious or unpleasant event or situation.
Yes, someone was decapitated. If not for the actions of a few of the men involved, multiple people could have lost their lives, or at the very least have been injured. That would have been "a more serious or unpleasant event or situation". It's a miracle more people didn't get hurt, so yes it easily could have been far worse. You can't compare something to itself genius, that's redundant. It's like saying "chocolate tastes worse than chocolate" which is nonsense.
@The Venomous Look I know what you're trying to say, but saying "if 2 or more people had gotten killed it would have been the same result" makes no sense. 2 deaths are inherently worse than 1 death no matter what, and the result is measurably worse by exactly that - a life. If it was someone in your family it would make a huge difference to you, so please don't equate a single murder to multiple murders. If everyone on the bus had been killed, for example, then it couldn't have been much worse than that could it? 1/37 vs 2/37 or 37/37.
this poor guy, he looks petrified and has a calm voice, that messed him up, hope he's doing alright nowadays
I hope the victims family keep their heads strong
@@jg0620 someone found him on facebook or something he looks like he's doing alright
@@trevcorm good must have been very traumatic
He’s in shock. Sad thing is the reality of what happened probably kicked in for him afterwards. Just hope he’s doing better these days
@@jg0620 The victim wasn't able to, so maybe his family will lmfao.
This poor guy is traumatized literally shook to his bones.
at least that trucker came by to calm him a bit
The sad thing is. he wanted to save him with the buff guy next to him. but he ran of.
@@ZoraLink4 I agree just the presence of another person can go a long way. If someone is in a bad situation just your presence can help them out.
One of the whitnesses committed suicide 6 years later
@@NatronFatumallafalla Because of this?
A lot of people don’t know one of the worst details: the man responsible is named Vince Lee, and he changed his name to Will Lee Baker in 2015 after he was released after spending just seven years in a psychiatric ward for the crime. As of 2017 he was granted independent living rights. This man is walking around free without any restrictions whatsoever having served zero prison time. No, this isn’t a rumor.
Canada: “This man murdered, decapitated and cannibalized a man in front of a lot of people on a Greyhound bus. Give him a high-five and wish him well on his way to Manitoba! He wants to fish!”
He can meet up and go camping with Karla Homolka and fam.
@@leeleevalentine3898 yeah now that’s one crazy b. Her poor sister.
He would've been dead if that happened here in the states
@@AlBrownComedy So horrible! But now Karla gets to have her own family. Took the option away from her sister but you know, it’s Canada. Not shocking she was released.
@@AdVictoriam93lies
This guy kinda looks like the main character to a early 2000s movie
he looks like Mark Ruffalo in the movie 13 going on 30
Id say brendan Frazier
Thinking the same hahaha but yeah this guy Li hes in selkirk i last heard
Reminds me of Charlie sheen
Michael Corvin ... a lycan.
The reporter asks “have you experienced anything like this before?” Honestly that has to be one of the dumbest questions ever asked.
yeah but just imagine if the guy was like "yeah, this is the sixth time i've seen somebody randomly murder another person beside me." turns out he's cursed and lives in some sort of lovecraftian horror world
Yeah i agree, but then again this guy was really calm throughout the whole interview.
I mean, he was in the military for 5 years. You never know what those guys have seen unless you’ve been with ‘em.
@Form Emptiness Ah, yeah. I’ve seen those dark web videos of people being decapitated. That fucked me up badly. I remember being scared to leave my house for months.
@@orangeismyfavoritecolor yeah, now imagine seeing in up-close, in-person, and without having gone and searched/clicked on it yourself.
I don't know who is more crazy, the murderer or the people who released him.
EVERYONE
That's Canada
Canada is fucked. Two years jail time for misgendering but you can eat someone's fucking heart and be given bus passes.
both.
The people who released him
I got this recommended AGAIN. And I still hope he's doing okay. That's traumatic .
I hope this man is okay. I know this was 11 years ago, but I really hope he went back to having a relatively normal life.
the RCMP that first boarded the bus took his life in 2014.... too much of PTSD
Nerdy Digger didn’t think I’d have to explain this, but I meant the eyewitness in this video.
I think this dude's relaxed and cool about it. See he loves the camera. If I were to see that horrific scene I wouldn't want to be interviewed and just admit myself to psych hospital lol
Yea, poor guy probably has some sort of survivors guilt...
@Nerdy Digger Bro, are you being dense on purpose?
Man, clearly in shock, describes witnessing a horrific beheading
Reporter: *was there a lot of blood?*
🤦♂️
How bout when he asks "have you seen anything like this before?"
I mean does he expect ppl to see this regularly?
@@1111Alive_N_Well No but its still a good question
@Phi Vai I mean to establish if they have maybe seen anything like it before even if its an incredibly small chance you could still have someone say they have seen it before.
@@1111Alive_N_Well you’re an idiot and don’t understand what he means by the question lol
Reporter: Did anyone attempt mouth to mouth resusitation on the head?
“Were they friends.”
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say they weren’t on friendly terms.
Hey there, try not to jump to conclusions.
@@RoseRose-to4vq well you see...
Idk they might be friends i mean my friends decapitate me all the time
@@RoseRose-to4vq What are you talking about? I behead my friends all the time!
@@ursosexmachina hey can you guys quiet down I'm trying to behead my friend here, jeez no consideration.
The fact that the killer is a free man is absolutely terrifying.
The man killed and stole the life away of a young 22 year old... and he’s released and held not criminally responsible... what the fuck
Whhhhhaaaatttt?!
He was schizophrenic. He was having hallucinations of “God” telling him to kill that guy, because according to the voice, the guy was a demon and was going to kill him. After he realized what happened, he pleaded for someone to kill him. He was released because of that, he couldn’t be held accountable of his crime.
@@ashsummermakaio4756 if he’s telling the truth i hope he’s getting help
@@goblin8830 He is. He was put on a mental healthcare institute and is currently stable and undergoing therapy.
@@ashsummermakaio4756 if someone is schizophrenic why would you release them back to public again shit like this can happen again.
You can tell by his bodily movements, calm voice and his facial expression that he's still in immense shock from the incident
Wearing the shock very well if ya ask me … don’t know if I’d be so calm
@@Jumbo344 if you look at his eyes he's out of it. I think he is experiencing derealization, hence why he appears calm
Once he snaps out of shock is when it will start repeating in his head and giving him PTSD. At least I know that’s what would happen to me.
@@Niko-bf7nw
"Ten thousand yard" stare yep he got it
@@Jumbo344 When you're in shock humans are capable of just about everything. It's when the adrenaline leaves you that you fall apart. Being male helps as well as the placement of male dopamine receptor clusters are more receptive to danger on average.
Witness: "He was stabbed in the neck and decapitated."
Reporter: "Was there blood?"
Witness : he cut the guys head off.
Reporter : But did he die ?
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
🤔Hmm.. according to my knowledge about the human body, probably not 😊.
Very little, the victim was anemic.
This man is so composed telling this absolutely horrific story. Props to him. Can't imagine how he felt once the shock wore off... Hope he isn't haunted by this
He even said “I’m probably still in shock..” which. I’ve witnessed a fatal accident and when the EMT asked if I was ok I said the same thing. Sure enough. Years later I still white knuckle driving in the rain or snow
I can’t IMAGINE the long lasting effects for this guy.
This guy was a great witness. He was well spoken and told the details clearly and precisely.
because the stress was too much that he just lost his emotions.
That's what trauma does. It's a demon that makes you lose control of your thoughts putting your emotions back in that moment. I live with PTSD so I know what this man is feeling. Poor guy.
I keep searching his name to see how he is doing or if he even is alive today but I can find nothing on him. According to different articles, His name is Garnet Caton. I searched different social media platforms but he isn't there and I haven't heard of anyone else who has information on him. 🙁
@@chanyeolsass5201 he changed his name and is now living a new life because he was diagnosed with untreated schizophrenia. His new name is will baker I’m not sure though
@@chanyeolsass5201 yeah search up will baker killer and you’ll find him
He speaks calmly, but his eyes show shock.
Talk to soldiers and Marines who have been in combat. They look and sound the same way.
I noticed how his actions and answers were calm and consice, but his eyes said it all.Those memories will be scorched in his mind for life.
Your mention of soldiers and marines who have been in combat makes me think of the term "the thousand yard stare" that afflicted shell
shocked soldiers in the trenches of WW1.
@@ruthlassnoGABA73 Exactly. I know that stare. I was a nurse at a VA hospital for a couple years before becoming an ICU nurse in a public hospital. Before that, I served in the Marine Corps in supply and was reserves while I went to school after active duty. I've seen too many empty stares from eyes that see the horror of war being replayed in their minds. God, help us all.
@@gabriellashimone6546 damn that's crazy..
@Brian taylor I didn't see any shit, either. Just shock and horror.
do not listen to headphones and sleep on public transportation. noted.
or do not get on public transport phew this is chilling.
@@deejk2587 yeah..say that to some one who has no choice
@@robynthebank919 i don't own vehicles either. i was just scared reacting.
It's hard not to sleep on public transport after exhausting day of work.
Yeah don't, something similar happened in nyc train during Covid time in April. Guy was sleeping then got stabbed in neck and killed so the news says. 😓
One of the cops who responded to this crime suffered with ptsd for years afterwards until he finally took his own life. This crime has more than one victim
Proof?
sauce?
You made this shi up
TH-cam commenters are so goddamn miserable lmao.
I went online and found it right away, this is true. Ken Barker, RCMP.
@lildeezn tomato sauce
This is terrifying. The fact he just attacked the other dude for no reason at all , just random attack with no mercy 😢😰 I would be terrified of going near strangers if this happened near me
That’s because people defunded mental institutions and straight up ended the Death Penalty in some States and Countries, there’s ways to detect this kind of behavior from 2 years old, at least 1/3 of the free population should be in a padded cell, but they’re homeless and a blink away from attacking anyone.
Yup I would've thrown up and died of a heart attack
He was released after 2 years!
@@Dr.MantisTobogganMD - this happened in Canada. We don’t have the Death Penalty.
@@marievecsey4572 he was in a facility for his schizophrenia for much longer than 2 years......
“Was there blood?”
No, the guy was very nice and tried his best not to bleed everywhere.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
How very Canadian of him.
Quality journalism.
@@6eloved how to journalist
Try harder
Horrifying. His eyes tell the story of how terrifying this was. So sad for the victim and the family.
How? What do his eyes look like, other than normal? He doesnt look traumatized at all, speaking very coherently, and goes on for 7 minutes in great detail. His eyes tell no stories at all you dickhead
@@AdamRouse999 when someone has witnessed something horrible or stressful, their eyes seem more open and their iris are actually darker and more deep, no sunlight shining through them. You can't see any form of life in them.
Btw his body language is pretty much explaining how he felt back then. You can see how destroyed and traumatized he look.
I would too if it wouldn't have been for my sadistic nature where I take pleasure in seeing others hurt but even I have limits and I feel for this guy. No human being should have to see that in today's modern era. Guess we aren't too far ahead of the middle ages after all.
AdamRouse999 What video are you watching? Anyone with a hint of intellect can tell the guys nerves are shot. He’s moving around constantly, wide eyed, and fumbles over his words frequently. Also take 999 outta your name. You’re doing Juice a disservice with those numbers in your name “dickhead”.
@@hilnoh8581 I said the same thing, anybody who has not witnessed too often has no idea what it looks like when someone is traumatized.
And I thought I looked traumatized after waking up from nearly dying of suffocation in my sleep.
I don't like those 999 numbers, I prefer them upside down 666 cause it makes me comfortable knowing that I'll be seeing Adam in hell after my death.
Danny Verdant I mean I’ve never been traumatized before but I can tell that this guy definitely has been. It shouldn’t take a medical expert to see that. Also not dissing you just confused on what the other guy was saying. Anyway that sucks about you almost suffocating in your sleep hope all’s well. And it’s cool if you don’t like the whole 999 thing, but nobody should have it in their name and not represent what 999 stands for or at least not diss people for no reason.
The real question is why the heck did youtube decide to recommend this to me on November of 2024
"Have you ever seen anything like this before?"
"Yes, this is my 5th decapitation bus ride..."
Yeah, I actually cut some random dudes head off last bus ride, so shit happens.
@@nathelm8693 ik same here🤣
Lol I know this is not funny but the reporter was definitely asking the dumbest questions!
Lmao this comment made me laugh out loud.
"Yeah I've caught the greyhound before"
Ten years later the killer is out of prison, changed his name and lives freely amongst us. No justice for Tim McLean
You can't be serious....
@@Splexsychiick Yes he is. Killer was released in 2017. Second time this man has been locked up in mental hospital and released.
The justice system in Canada is extremely flawed, mentally unsound or not, no one should be given a pass for murder
His new name is Will Baker, he changed it.
There is 1 impostor among us.
You can see how hes still in such shock. His face just says it all. Poor guy.
His eyes tell it all
Hopefully he got some kind of counciling afterwards, if there's anything that can help after seeing something like that.
If i was on the bus i wouldve stopped the guy im simply built different
@@SuperCakeKing Not doubting what your saying but you really don't know what your gonna do in a situation like that, unless you have been through something like it before. I'm thinking there was a pause before anybody did anything. Your mind isn't prepared for that kind of thing out of the blue.
@@williamsherman1089 its a joke
This man seems like a generally good person, and he looks like an every day person, and it really shows that not just war heroes or emergency services can get PTSD from horrific events like this. I hope he's doing so much better now, and he's doing alright.
it probably won't help that this interview with him is going viral still 15 years later
He's surprisingly articulate for someone who had just witnessed a horrible event and probably hardly had time to process what had happened. My heart goes out to him. His eyes reflect how much of a terror the whole experience must have been.
I imagine he’s still in shock:(
Adrenaline and shock are pretty powerful
It's a common fight/flight response, plus he's had military training
@Filip Nikolic are you a guy?
yeh its been 12 yrs hopefully hes gotten over it
Interviewer: “Have you ever seen anything like this before?”
Witness: (Politely and nonchalantly) “No, I’ve never seen a beheading.”
-The most Canadian conversation of all time.
Like what the fuck like having a day at the beach
@@jamjam9930mkğo
He is in shock....
@@fredgervinm.p.3315SNL?! SCTV, you hoser.
Bro look at his eyes, he's totally in shock..
This guys real. He said it sounded like a “baby crying and a dog howling. That’s not gonna leave me for a while” ghadamn...
What sounded like that
@@eggmoni7 the beheaded man
@@marjoonman6970 oh gawd
I’ve seen videos of people getting killed like this and it’s fucked me up for life. I can’t imagine seeing it in person
@@Zeta9966 ikr
Scary how you can just be minding your own business and then you get killed for literally no reason
“Was there a lot of blood”? The dude got decapitated 🤦♂️
Dumbass questions. Wtf do you expect it to be just a few drops here and there?
Tis but a scratch
Just a flesh wound
nothing a little bandaid cant fix
An ice pack was probably needed but other than that, all good.
One of my best friends passed away like this. He was on his way to community college on the public bus here in LA and a man next to him out of nowhere pulled out a knife and started stabbing him in the face and chest, people just watched in fear and the man escaped and ran out. My friend was in the hospital for about a week before passing from his injuries. They caught the guy after they posted the video surveillance three days later, the attack was totally unprovoked and random. You never know what can happen, he was only 22 years old. RIP ❤️
So sorry. Nobody should ever have to go like that 💔
@MrBrenman I heard "shit hole" was quite literal nowadays.
Sorry to hear this. RIP Austin.
Rip to your dear friend
damn i lost my uncle from i believe a heart disease, me and him shared a birthday and he ended up in the hospital and i send him a message to get better and a couple months later he passes on 4/12/19 i cried my heart out and it sucks becuz his mom is like one the best person in the world and she got covid and im scared that im gonna lose her. 11/24/96- 4/12/19😥🙏🏽🕊 rip to yo homeboy
I wonder how messed up this guys dreams are. Horrible experience to witness.
We prescribe proazosin for that
Awesome channel name, though.
@@wolpertinger. he'd be better off with therapy at this point...
@@wolpertinger. I’m on prazosin and it doesn’t stop nightmares from PTSD, it just makes them more abstract, in my experience.
when a eprson gest stabbed it looks horrible to watch, one of the worst things to see outide a movie, it ruines your day. you just can't beliueve that it would actually happen in real life.
It’s ok, Vincent Li has promised to stay on his medications. He has changed his name and walks freely amongst us… Why is it that only victims have no rights?
Because Canada is opposite land, everything that happens is the opposite. Women have power, cops do nothing but strut around in their uniforms, junkies are mollycoddled, etc.
In the states they would have fried his ass for killing that guy.
Because the system that holds us down believes that no one but criminals deserve rights.
The powers that be hate you. They hate all of humanity. Plan your life accordingly, no one is coming to save us.
He was schizophrenic, he had a long history of it. Obviously not morally culpable. I get it, you want someone to blame, but a death like this is more like a death from a natural disaster, it's not really anyone's fault, it's just the sad reality we live in that our neurological equipment is an extremely sensitive blob of fat that's prone to physiological errors.
“Ever see anything like that before?”
“Uhh no this was my first decapitation”
The questions are fucking awful
@Google "Dancing Israelis" what?
@@kallemertens what he is saying is we don't need to flood our country with people from a place were this happens all the time
@Google "Dancing Israelis" why must you bring politics into this
Apparently he wasn't in France during the Revolution. Tsk tsk, it was so the place to be in 1792
If you look at this guys eyes, he’s in shock of course, more surreal if anything.
Pog
Either shock or cocaine
@@Rudy97 quite obviously shock?
@@James-xn6zh not so sure ngl
@@Rudy97 given the circumstances I would say... shock
While recollecting something horrific, this man was still polite and well-spoken all throughout.
he is canadian lol. All that is missing is him apologizing for yelling on the bus.
Pretry sure he was in shock
@@LittleWarWolf my thoughts exactly
@@jonnie2bad as a canadian I’m terribly sorry that he forget to apologize
The guy that killed the dude mutilated him as well…they found body parts of the victim in his pockets and in a bag nearby…crazy stuff
Did everyone else get this recommend randomly?
The worst part is they let him go free in 2015. Somebody stabbed, beheaded and cannibalized a person and was released while others are doing years for cannabis possession🤦🏾♂️
@Red Crow You missed the point. The guy stated true facts here.
@@Jason-wc3fh Then give a proof that someone has spent years for only cannabis possession in Canada, ever.
@@nrqed Not in Canada. In the US.
@@Jason-wc3fh Ok, please provide a reliable source for someone who had mot committed any other crime before and who spent years in prison for simple possession, in the last 30 years.
@@nrqed I got one from 31 years ago.
youtube: ”u said a bad word????? we cant have that”
also youtube: ”bus beheading eyewitness”
And they be recommending it to everyone too the hell. All I watch is animal crossing recently, why's this in my recommendation
This is a joke right
TH-cam is a liberal corrupted mess. Prayers for everyone still working there.
Such pussies
@Mr. Note how tf is cursing far worse than someone losing their life you fucking prick
You'd think the journalists would give this guy a break. You can see him getting worse as the interview goes on.
He seemed fine to me the whole time
Seriously, this is why they don't allow witnesses to be interviewed like this anymore. Poor guy was clearly in shocked and traumatized
@@samack3 that's shock, when you haven't processed what's happened yet you can recall things matter of factly, that's why as he went on it got harder for him to say details as it was recounted it got more real for him. So sad.
Goddamn vultures.
@Evan Kline yea.. All while in shock. They took advantage of him
the patience on this guy is next level too, the questions are getting dumber and dumber as the video goes on like “was there a lot of blood?” like bro wdyt 😂😂
This guy is still pumping with adrenaline, his pupils are huge, that's the only thing keeping him okay at that moment
@@solemns this interview was the same day it happened he says that they brought him into this hotel and his stuff is still on the bus
@@solemns I reread your comment multiple times before posting my reply but I couldn't understand exactly cuz my energy level wasn't the highest at the the time and English isn't my first language, but u understand now 😅
Whites above eyes show fear, this man Is traumatized
Lmao with the quality of this video his whole eye looks black hahaha
@@solemns 4:42 literally said he was gonna eat lmao Mr.Pshycologist.
“There was a guy beside me... he was bigger... I was thinking maybe we could do something to help the guy but the other guy took off so it was just me” broke my heart.
To anyone with survivor’s guilt, it isn’t your fault, there is help available.
Bless You for your courage! You're a Hero to many of us; Sorry the guy took off not on You! Not all men are created equal!
Survivors guilt is a real living thing.
I was on the Appalachian Trail in 2019, when the hiker Sovereign murdered another hiker named Stronghold. I didnt get to see it, and never met Sovereign but I spoke to several people who did. One of them was a massive veteran who'd fought in Afghanistan on multiple deployments. He was far larger than Sovereign, and he flat out admitted that the moment Sovereign pulled his machete on him, he fled. Schizophrenia gives you more muscle and mental power than crack and meth combined. Now give schizophrenia a knife, and even a massive, jacked veteran, whose seen the worst of battle, will flee.
For real. He shouldn't feel bad
@EndofMusic I was in the loony bin several times, with schizophrenia patients for my roommates, and got to learn all about the *awesome* power of a psychotic break. A schizo will pull their eyeballs out of their sockets to get the "hidden cameras" out of their heads, and not feel a thing.
Hate how this guy will probably feel guilty his whole life just for not being able to save the victim. Heart goes out to him, hopefully he’ll be able to mentally recover
Karma for US war crimes
@@travelleryu ehh, no dude. Even if his actions were motivated by historical injustices, two wrongs never make a right, particularly when doing something as nasty and vicious as what was witnessed in this instance.
@@travelleryu This was in Canada, dude. 🙄
@@travelleryu Have you always been a simpleton?
@@travelleryu ya kinda brain dead homie
How is this murderer and cannibal free while kids who smoke some weed are in prison for years and years
All recommendation jokes aside, that was probably absolutely horrifying.
I can see the horrific feeling in the eyes of the witness. Very aad
Yeah probably..
well no shit
Yea considering he could have been his victim sitting right in front of the killer.
I'm really freaked out thinking about being the guy being attacked.. one second you're just sitting there listening to music and the next there's a guy stabbing you in the throat and sawing your head off
The reporter is asking stupid questions... Someone gets their head cut off and you ask,” was there blood?”
Haven't you heard of a bloodless beheading? 🤣
You just asked a stupid question
«Have you seen anything like this before»
@@yeahyeahyeah688 what the hell are you talking about?
@@SalemArc lol
“Have you ever seen anything like this before?”
“I’ve never seen someone decapitated.”
GREAT REPORTING.
Even though he wasn’t deployed he was an enlist so you never know.
@@F34RI355 yea but didn’t the reporter ask that question BEFORE he asked about the guys service?
@@draconicusmathiusanytherio7630 yes, definitely. crazy stupid questions, scoop comes first and respect only second
Haha what if he had said yes?
"3rd beheading I've seen face to face."
What club did i just join? Why tf was this in my recommended😂😂
This is a stand up guy, his poise and composure is unbelievable.
@Will Mullins Stand up guy as in well put together and stable
he's in shock though...
it's a survival mechanism and it happens to a lot of people in traumatic situations
@@apseudonym Are you calling Diane a cry baby? Lol
He maybe a stand up guy, but this is no joke.
“Was there blood?”
Top notch question there, guy.
No sir no blood it was weird i mean you think there would be but i did notice that the man being killed god rest his soul was infact a zombie i think
No, there was candy that came out of him like a piñata lmao
@Jakman char* asking the real questions here
@@SNB_1985 did you get a piece of candy for yourself while he was at it ?
Ikr what a dumbass. Doesn't he know there's no blood in the neck? 😤
These reporters are relentless.
"Give us the juicy details."
"Ummm I'm still in shock guys."
"Don't care, my career is on the line."
Reporters are slimy as fuck
Correction.
"I want that juicy promotion."
@@Wanglicker42235 can confirm, I've literally witnessed them lying about incidents & people i had prior detailed knowledge of
@@tenshimoon literally borderline psychopaths with the type of questions they ask without any emotion it’s crazy
well we wouldnt have such a good interview if they didnt do they job good now would we??
The most terrifying part is that this guy, the victim, lost his life in broad daylight on a bus full of people. You may think that you are safe, surrounded by people in a public space, but no. All it took was one guy with a knife and no one did anything at all to help.
I'm not blaming anyone for not helping, I understand that most people react to shocking events by running and saving themselves, it is human nature. I am simply pointing out just how horrific it is that no matter where you are, no matter who you're with, you are never truly safe.
Imagine the realisation afterwards that the killer could’ve easily chosen you
Damn
that’s what terrifies me too
So...fate exists.
@@radicallybean nah
@@radicallybean lol no. He had to choose someone. Maybe it was even targeted idk. But I would not say fate.
This is horrible man poor guy was just listening to his headphones he did not deserve that! And to everybody that seen this happened I hope you are all okay.
Tim was sleeping when the attack started😔 he had his headphones on yes, but he was leaning against the window asleep
He said he was reading a book pay attention wow see how eyewitness testimony and gets more more diluted.
@@christopherwells3426 no, its in the report that tim was sleeping with his head on the window and his headphones on. It was all caught on film. The cops reviewed all of the footage captured that day. When the attack started tim was asleep.
@@christopherwells3426 "Li, described as a tall man in his 40s, with a shaved head and sunglasses, originally sat near the front of the bus, but moved to sit next to McLean following a scheduled rest stop. McLean "barely acknowledged" Li, then fell asleep against the window pane, headphones covering his ears."
@@christopherwells3426 he was talking about the victim dummy, maybe you should take your own advice and pay attention.
This young man is the product of good parenting. Hats off.
Or bad
"Hats off"
@@jennyhorsburgh1078 I hate that I laughed at this
How so ?...
Nice pun
Man, why can't TH-cam drop a NORMAL random thing into my recommended? Why did it have to be this?
I was just about to comment something like this