Bro you r insane, your videos are really fun, actually i'm from perú and i speak spanish so i understand a half of your comments but you make them really exciting
loved watching this, I’m playing with Germany lately and been using the mercs the giant grenadier is a fun unit probably a little op, funny thing is if you age up to imperial with mercenary contractor you can buff these even more!
man we have to be honest here, what game can you think of thats as crazy with the meta as Age of Empires 3? so many different builds and they can all work even at higher elo.
*Lukas builds a TP at **1:11* Lion at 12:45 (about a good 11 minutes later): "BuTtHaTtPwAsNoTtHeReAcOuPlEoFmInUtEsAgo" 🤡 I'm just playin', love ya man, keep it up!
The Marathan Thuggee and Decoit units are good but not exceptional. Looking at them as one unit and comparing them to other things isn't good, it's all about the cost. Abus guns for instance do siege damage and have a MUCH better firing animation, get more range as they upgrade, have far more cards that support them oh and don't cost ridiculously stupid levels of population where you pretty much have to be playing Germany with Palatine Settlements, Brit with a manor boom or Japan just to build them. Even the card that lowers population (theatres) it doesn't make them equal to units that are equivalent per cost. In the case of the Thuggee you have to staple another 50 wood to it's cost compared to a skirm. Dacoit's are even worse in terms of population. Better hope the game doesn't go long periods without fighting either otherwise you'll be forced to fight with a very inefficient 200 population. There's just way too many hoops non-European outlaws have to jump through in order to be useful. With these units and others like them, people will see 'one unit with a gun' and assume its a skirmisher when in reality its closer to two and a half to three skirmishers stapled together and thus take fights they wouldn't if they saw three skirms instead or if there were 5 of them, imagine there are really 15 because that's the investment cost (if you factor in population too). The stats stop looking so good then. The other issue too is that it will suck your gold up faster then you can say Wallenstein. Especially if you use Tilly's Discipline as well which is why their units were so fast, Thuggee are 4 speed, Dacoit's are 4.5. Surprised we didn't see folk heroes for the amount of Thuggees they had.
Lionheart. Just for the record. They are pronounced Ma-ra-than not marathon and thugee is Hindi for to swindle or rob. Historically they were bandits or organized criminals that terrorized the British during their rule of India. It is where the English word for thug comes from.
I know Native Scouts received a buff vs. Mercs to act as a weak Spy and that they are supposed to be niche, but watching how these strong mercs were performing generally, I feel they are still not worth it. You can only train 5, they cost wood, and with 25 hand attack and 120 health, there is not much they can do. I would propose a split wood-food cost and a higher multiplier
I feel as if a dagger throw ability or something would be good & 8 build limit is the norm is it not? This way it would be more like Artillery & Light Cav... you don't actually have to fight into them directly to weaken them every time then wait for another batch only once they're dead.
Lion-senpai, did the devs already told when the new DLC comes ? Also, love ya casting too, hoping the DLC will give me the little boost i need to grow some balls and go and lose some games in ranked match xD Have an awesome week/month/year ya filth boi
26:58 -> been waiting on this one. Widgie casted a Game what, a month ago? and he looked at Bassi´s Bumm Bumm Bar and just said: really, devs? O.o Meanwhile my Premium Caster here: Bassi´s Bumm Bumm Bar - sounds like a Gay Bar. As a German, thank you. I do love your work as a Caster, so iam not really impartial here, but at least make a joke about it. We can only feel shame or laugh about it. Shits dark here no inbetween. And being ashamed for Brother Bassi who´s opened his legendary Bumm Bumm Bar is not what he deserves. Mans served more Beer to Pistoleers than i touched doorhandles. - edit: idk how much effort you would like to spend, but i could watch your Casts all day. Doesnt even matter if the game was bad or you felt meh. A 2nd Channel, a Dude helping to cut? because i dont watch Twitch and whenever i watch a Vod, you seem to had casted/played much more than just 1 a Day. If you recycle Twitch to TH-cam could be a gainer for us all. Asking politely ofc.
Loved your comment haha...And with new DLC around the corner I might be able to post more than 1 vid a day, but not easy with a full time job. I got another channel as well which I will cast/play other RTS games on soon :)
These 2 outlaw unit population should be reduced to the American-maps outlaw unit equivalent. 5 and 6 pop is waaay too much to make them viable. I think they are more expensive than them already in coin
new player here, pls can someone help me with one thing that is driving me crazy...so basically how can u get that mercenary in the saloon? because when i m in age 2 and i place the saloon, it only give me access to gunslinger and renegade
It is fun because native civs can't do nothing vs mercs because they have no spy available for them but if it's an another ero civ that will be end so much quicker 😂😂
the improved mercenaries card (+15% hp and attack) and mercenary camps should be one, since the Swedes do have a similar card that enables mercenaries in regular buildings and also improves them by 20%. And not only that, the Swedes also enable mercenaries by sending a shipment of 10 jaegers or 7 black riders, which are cheaper, and they also have the advanced arsenal for free and other cards that affect mercenaries. 
Yeah sweden is also the other option for a merc civ, spamming torps for pop space is good because they are your main gold eco usualy and like you said they have free advanced arsenal and the merc shipments allows their training at barracks/stable
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Marathan Thugees rampaging across the deccan map is somehow historically accurate if you know indian history
True
25:14 the GigaCHAD pistoleer vs the virgins kanyas
Top level casting my boy! Cant spend the time to play the game but love to watch Loin Heart in the morning!
Glad you enjoy mate, hope you find some time soon!
Armored pistoleer is allways on my ports deck, its is a must have.
When it come to mercs Germany is OP, great match!
Bro you r insane, your videos are really fun, actually i'm from perú and i speak spanish so i understand a half of your comments but you make them really exciting
Bassi's bum bum bar sounds like a gay bar lol, that got me
🤣🤣🤣
Always enjoying a top match commented by a great caster! Keep it up Lion!
loved watching this, I’m playing with Germany lately and been using the mercs the giant grenadier is a fun unit probably a little op, funny thing is if you age up to imperial with mercenary contractor you can buff these even more!
Thanks for uploading these videos, I've been having a shite time at work, and your video always cheer me up :)
Glad I can help mate, I share your pain about work!!!
Love this mercenary build !!! Thank you, Lukas and Lion of course !!! 😌😎😱
Insane fun with you Lion, I laugh so much
man we have to be honest here, what game can you think of thats as crazy with the meta as Age of Empires 3?
so many different builds and they can all work even at higher elo.
Thats why I love this game so much!
An armored pistoleer with mercenary ups and advanced arsenal is like a mini boss
Armored Pistoleers resist 60% of all melee damage, they can even hold their own against Lancers. They are basically AoE 2 Teuton Knights with a gun.
I used to spam that unit in aoe 2 haha
OMG just one or two priests hanging out with those armored pistoleers would have been scary
Love the Runers ref... He got tempted out into wildy
Marathan thuggees are built different 😅
*Lukas builds a TP at **1:11*
Lion at 12:45 (about a good 11 minutes later): "BuTtHaTtPwAsNoTtHeReAcOuPlEoFmInUtEsAgo" 🤡
I'm just playin', love ya man, keep it up!
🤣
The Marathan Thuggee and Decoit units are good but not exceptional. Looking at them as one unit and comparing them to other things isn't good, it's all about the cost. Abus guns for instance do siege damage and have a MUCH better firing animation, get more range as they upgrade, have far more cards that support them oh and don't cost ridiculously stupid levels of population where you pretty much have to be playing Germany with Palatine Settlements, Brit with a manor boom or Japan just to build them. Even the card that lowers population (theatres) it doesn't make them equal to units that are equivalent per cost. In the case of the Thuggee you have to staple another 50 wood to it's cost compared to a skirm. Dacoit's are even worse in terms of population.
Better hope the game doesn't go long periods without fighting either otherwise you'll be forced to fight with a very inefficient 200 population. There's just way too many hoops non-European outlaws have to jump through in order to be useful.
With these units and others like them, people will see 'one unit with a gun' and assume its a skirmisher when in reality its closer to two and a half to three skirmishers stapled together and thus take fights they wouldn't if they saw three skirms instead or if there were 5 of them, imagine there are really 15 because that's the investment cost (if you factor in population too). The stats stop looking so good then.
The other issue too is that it will suck your gold up faster then you can say Wallenstein. Especially if you use Tilly's Discipline as well which is why their units were so fast, Thuggee are 4 speed, Dacoit's are 4.5. Surprised we didn't see folk heroes for the amount of Thuggees they had.
4:46 Great Castercomment, love that.
Lionheart. Just for the record. They are pronounced Ma-ra-than not marathon and thugee is Hindi for to swindle or rob. Historically they were bandits or organized criminals that terrorized the British during their rule of India. It is where the English word for thug comes from.
Nice, cool bit of history there!
Armoured pistol units are really cool
A Shane didn't see mercenary camp in play. That and circle army are really fun cards to play.
Does Lucas know about the Outlaw tech in the saloon? I don’t think he got it upon reaching fortress age. ❤
I know Native Scouts received a buff vs. Mercs to act as a weak Spy and that they are supposed to be niche, but watching how these strong mercs were performing generally, I feel they are still not worth it. You can only train 5, they cost wood, and with 25 hand attack and 120 health, there is not much they can do. I would propose a split wood-food cost and a higher multiplier
I feel as if a dagger throw ability or something would be good & 8 build limit is the norm is it not?
This way it would be more like Artillery & Light Cav... you don't actually have to fight into them directly to weaken them every time then wait for another batch only once they're dead.
Lion-senpai, did the devs already told when the new DLC comes ?
Also, love ya casting too, hoping the DLC will give me the little boost i need to grow some balls and go and lose some games in ranked match xD
Have an awesome week/month/year ya filth boi
haah love the comment! and no they haven't, we wont know till the AOE stream on the 23rd of Feb
Thugee life
24:54 dad please stop. Lol
"sounds like a gay bar" sure it sounds like that
26:58 -> been waiting on this one. Widgie casted a Game what, a month ago? and he looked at Bassi´s Bumm Bumm Bar and just said: really, devs? O.o
Meanwhile my Premium Caster here: Bassi´s Bumm Bumm Bar - sounds like a Gay Bar.
As a German, thank you.
I do love your work as a Caster, so iam not really impartial here, but at least make a joke about it.
We can only feel shame or laugh about it. Shits dark here no inbetween.
And being ashamed for Brother Bassi who´s opened his legendary Bumm Bumm Bar is not what he deserves. Mans served more Beer to Pistoleers than i touched doorhandles.
- edit: idk how much effort you would like to spend, but i could watch your Casts all day. Doesnt even matter if the game was bad or you felt meh. A 2nd Channel, a Dude helping to cut?
because i dont watch Twitch and whenever i watch a Vod, you seem to had casted/played much more than just 1 a Day. If you recycle Twitch to TH-cam could be a gainer for us all. Asking politely ofc.
Loved your comment haha...And with new DLC around the corner I might be able to post more than 1 vid a day, but not easy with a full time job. I got another channel as well which I will cast/play other RTS games on soon :)
God the armored pistoleer is just nasty
Soon as Kevin hit age 3 he should have gone mantlets
I thought thugees were outlaws. Are they boosted by the German merc card or the age 5 merc bonus?
no I think that was just for the merc he build, thugees are outlaws
Feels weird have too much resources starting the game. I think that Ao3 guys must cut off this map from rank
These 2 outlaw unit population should be reduced to the American-maps outlaw unit equivalent. 5 and 6 pop is waaay too much to make them viable. I think they are more expensive than them already in coin
lol for a sec a though I got a steam friend named omega playing rust
Why didn’t Lukas upgrade his outlaws in age3? Doesn’t Germany have the card that lowers pop space for outlaws?
Not anymore sadly
Renegados are op too...,
Please don't hype them to much or the nerfs will be coming thick and fast next patch.
new player here, pls can someone help me with one thing that is driving me crazy...so basically how can u get that mercenary in the saloon? because when i m in age 2 and i place the saloon, it only give me access to gunslinger and renegade
I think with Germany it is map dependant, try making them on the same map
It is fun because native civs can't do nothing vs mercs because they have no spy available for them but if it's an another ero civ that will be end so much quicker 😂😂
the improved mercenaries card (+15% hp and attack) and mercenary camps should be one, since the Swedes do have a similar card that enables mercenaries in regular buildings and also improves them by 20%. And not only that, the Swedes also enable mercenaries by sending a shipment of 10 jaegers or 7 black riders, which are cheaper, and they also have the advanced arsenal for free and other cards that affect mercenaries.

sweden was meant to be a mercs civ. both merc upgrades (for germany and sweden) used to be 25% (or I think 20% for germany) and then devs nerfed them
Yeah sweden is also the other option for a merc civ, spamming torps for pop space is good because they are your main gold eco usualy and like you said they have free advanced arsenal and the merc shipments allows their training at barracks/stable
Germany doesn't need a buff.
@@fxmorin439 okey, but the Swedens mercenaries need a nerf for balance with Germany.
So fucking based
First, here's to a good game
45 ranged attack and 30 siege attack at age 2. Brutal haha
Why is that map even in the ranked mappool, it is really unbalanced for a few civs