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What I find so interesting is were it not for the efforts that Chris Claremont and crew brought to this revitalization of the X-Men, there’s a good chance that the X-Men would’ve become another of Marvel’s many obscure and forgotten characters. And this video does a great job at showing why this era was so instrumental for the X-Men.
For what it's worth I don't think you can talk about Claremont's X-Men without mentioning Lee, Kirby, Thomas, Adams, etc. There were plenty of great ideas in those first years, but I think Claremont's voice is really what helped the title break out of its Fantastic-Four-Lite beginnings.
As a fan who was almost completely beholden to rockstar artists of the 90s, and oblivious to the writing and editing teams that told the stories, I love hearing about Claremont’s run… Just sorry I didn’t appreciate or even understand decades ago how essential his work on this franchise has proven itself to be.
Absolute peak X-Men, and I didn't really start reading until the Claremont / Lee / Silvestri years. It's taken me years to realize how incredible Byrne's art was, since by 1989 I already saw him as the 'boring', 'classic' style that Lee and Silvestri were revolutionizing.
Any video that quotes Jon Lovitz is top tier quality. Wonderful job incorporating it into the script. I've heard that Claremont eventually conceded that Jean dying at the conclusion of the Dark Phoenix Saga was corrupt. It's interesting how creators' view on their work changes decades later. I'm fortunate that last winter I picked up the first 50 issues of X-Men Classic which reprinted most of this run (no clue why four issues were skipped). Not only are these comics amazing, but they really feel timeless. If they came out today, I imagine they'd be just as popular. Those are the best types of comics in my opinion.
Reading Claremont's X-Men shows how much we've lost during the process of reducing comic book "vocabulary." Modern comics lost their way when they took on a more "cinematic" approach to storytelling. Which is to say, removing narration and thought balloons has taken away the opportunity for deeper storytelling. Modern comics can be entertaining but very few feel like they have any real meat on their bones.
@@sollato0293 I was going to respond that that's because we're used to the more sparse comics of today, but then I remembered that Claremont was considered wordy even when thought bubbles and narration was the norm.
@@drewtheunspoken3988This definitely a response to the influence of European creators coming to America making comics aimed at college students instead of teenagers. Books like swamp thing, sandman, animal man were more mature in nature than your average Spiderman or Superman comic.
Absolutely thrilled by this video after searching for people talking about Claremont's X-Men! I'm reading X-Men for the first time starting with Giant-Sized, and it's been a blast. I'm excited to see you talk about this series as I'm reading along at the same time!!!
Xcellent video. I’m currently having the pleasure of reading through Claremont’s run (along with New Mutants) and this video captures the energy of those early years flawlessly.
I'm a huge fan of your videos, especially your X-Men videos, they have incredible editing and well discussed subjects! I was wondering, do you have plans on making a video for the last portion of the Krakoa Age, Fall of X in preparation for Rise from the Ashes?
Thanks so much! I've definitely got plans to finish covering the Krakoan Age of X-Men, but I want to take the time to get my thoughts together on everything before committing to it. There's definitely a lot going on there, and I want to make sure I can accurately dig into the behind-the-scenes as well as what each creator set out to do.
Man,GREAT on this X-Men documentary,never get tired of hearing the X-Men's history and legacy. Hope you do some thing similar on John Byrne's run on his reboot of Superman.
It's really great, and i'd really encourage you to read through if you have the chance. I can talk it up all day but experiencing it is really something else
Thanks! I primarily use a mix of Photoshop to cut out different elements and I edit/animate/record everything inside of Premiere, though I'm thinking of switching platforms soon
Can anyone recommend some novels similar to the Fantastic Four, in the sense that it blends elements and themes of family, action/adventure, exploration, and sci-fi together?
I just discovered your channel and enjoyed the videos. Curious though about your comment about John Byrne’s bigotry…what exactly has he said or done that would label him a bigot?
@@camilocuba6927 unfortunately there’s a wealth of stuff you can pick from. There’s him referring to immigrants who still live their home as “ungrateful” when talking about his depictions of Superman, he openly mocked Christopher Reeves’ disability, he spouted lots of islamophobic statements throughout the 2000’s and and lately has stated a lot of transphobic stuff. He’s also got his own Internet forum that’s host to a lot of toxicity.
Who did you have reading this Claremont quotes? He's Canadian, has a Baritone voice and doesn't sound British at all! Good video, but that really caught me off guard.
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aaaah Let's get this video to a lot of views in the first hour so that it gets love from youtube Algorithm bless this video which i liked even before watching it because it's that good Seriously, sometimes i end up pissed off because i can't like it again after watching it, fix that youtube Lots of words lots of engagement, yadda yadd
I do love when people complain about things like modern X-Men (and comics as a whole) by saying it's just a checklist of diversity, and that runs like Claremont suffered no such "faults." Claremont's relaunch was literally a checklist of diversity.
Honestly Claremont’s time might be one of the greatest indicators of how impactful diversity can be on storytelling. I’d argue it’s the thing that made the X-Men feel more real and fluid than ever before.
He has been rightly called out over transphobic statements, Islamophobic statements, and all sorts of unsavory stuff on his personal forum over the years.
Yaaaah Let's get this video to a lot of views in the first hour so that it gets love from youtube Algorithm bless this video which i liked even before watching it because it's that good Seriously, sometimes i end up pissed off because i can't like it again after watching it, fix that youtube Lots of words lots of engagement, yadda yadd
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you can never make me hate the literal leprechauns secretly working cassidy keep
Nothing hits quite like a For Every Kind of Geek video on the X-Men. Great job!
Thanks Owen, and double thanks for lending your great vocal talents to this one!
What I find so interesting is were it not for the efforts that Chris Claremont and crew brought to this revitalization of the X-Men, there’s a good chance that the X-Men would’ve become another of Marvel’s many obscure and forgotten characters. And this video does a great job at showing why this era was so instrumental for the X-Men.
For what it's worth I don't think you can talk about Claremont's X-Men without mentioning Lee, Kirby, Thomas, Adams, etc.
There were plenty of great ideas in those first years, but I think Claremont's voice is really what helped the title break out of its Fantastic-Four-Lite beginnings.
As a fan who was almost completely beholden to rockstar artists of the 90s, and oblivious to the writing and editing teams that told the stories, I love hearing about Claremont’s run… Just sorry I didn’t appreciate or even understand decades ago how essential his work on this franchise has proven itself to be.
Claremonts run on x-men is probably my favorite run a writer has had, aside from Frank Miller on Daredevil
Absolute peak X-Men, and I didn't really start reading until the Claremont / Lee / Silvestri years.
It's taken me years to realize how incredible Byrne's art was, since by 1989 I already saw him as the 'boring', 'classic' style that Lee and Silvestri were revolutionizing.
Any video that quotes Jon Lovitz is top tier quality. Wonderful job incorporating it into the script. I've heard that Claremont eventually conceded that Jean dying at the conclusion of the Dark Phoenix Saga was corrupt. It's interesting how creators' view on their work changes decades later.
I'm fortunate that last winter I picked up the first 50 issues of X-Men Classic which reprinted most of this run (no clue why four issues were skipped). Not only are these comics amazing, but they really feel timeless. If they came out today, I imagine they'd be just as popular. Those are the best types of comics in my opinion.
Reading Claremont's X-Men shows how much we've lost during the process of reducing comic book "vocabulary." Modern comics lost their way when they took on a more "cinematic" approach to storytelling. Which is to say, removing narration and thought balloons has taken away the opportunity for deeper storytelling. Modern comics can be entertaining but very few feel like they have any real meat on their bones.
True.
I can understand that, but I feel the comics from that time can be rather overwhelming with the amount of dialogues per pages to read.
@@sollato0293 I was going to respond that that's because we're used to the more sparse comics of today, but then I remembered that Claremont was considered wordy even when thought bubbles and narration was the norm.
@@drewtheunspoken3988This definitely a response to the influence of European creators coming to America making comics aimed at college students instead of teenagers. Books like swamp thing, sandman, animal man were more mature in nature than your average Spiderman or Superman comic.
Got two of the epic collections half off during this year’s Free Comic Book Day. Claremont X-Men just hits different
Absolutely thrilled by this video after searching for people talking about Claremont's X-Men! I'm reading X-Men for the first time starting with Giant-Sized, and it's been a blast. I'm excited to see you talk about this series as I'm reading along at the same time!!!
Amazing work as always ❤ celebrating the stories we love. Can't wait for Claremont part 2 🎉
I loved Chris clarimount x-men run it’s really awesome and badass and such a great series from its beginning to its end in my opinion.
Thanks for this....me & Cousin bought Xmen 121 off of the comic rack, and we were Fans for life after that
Excellent video!
Xcellent video. I’m currently having the pleasure of reading through Claremont’s run (along with New Mutants) and this video captures the energy of those early years flawlessly.
Excellent video this run defined what the x men would become in the following decades. So many classic stories that still resonate today
I love the video you made, and I can’t wait to see your perspective on the dark Phoenix saga, and days of future past
I'm a huge fan of your videos, especially your X-Men videos, they have incredible editing and well discussed subjects! I was wondering, do you have plans on making a video for the last portion of the Krakoa Age, Fall of X in preparation for Rise from the Ashes?
Thanks so much! I've definitely got plans to finish covering the Krakoan Age of X-Men, but I want to take the time to get my thoughts together on everything before committing to it. There's definitely a lot going on there, and I want to make sure I can accurately dig into the behind-the-scenes as well as what each creator set out to do.
Claremont is the man who made the Xmen great
Man,GREAT on this X-Men documentary,never get tired of hearing the X-Men's history and legacy. Hope you do some thing similar on John Byrne's run on his reboot of Superman.
I knew Claremont's was key to the X-Men's standing but man, I never knew how much until now
It's really great, and i'd really encourage you to read through if you have the chance. I can talk it up all day but experiencing it is really something else
@@ForEveryKindofGeek If only I had the means, I would
Awesome video!
Excellent work, my good person.
Just started reading this, great video!
Hell yes! More X-Men!!!
Great video! Im sure you get this question a lot, but how do you edit your videos?
Thanks! I primarily use a mix of Photoshop to cut out different elements and I edit/animate/record everything inside of Premiere, though I'm thinking of switching platforms soon
Nice Garth Marenghi quote!
I would love to see more videos in this series
Good vid, but I have a question Will you only cover claremont's first 17 years stint or Will you also cover his early 2000's return?.
Don’t know yet! The good news is there’s plenty to cover and I love Claremont’s voice on the book but I’m not sure how deep in I want to go yet
Hey, man! I'm new here. Just wanted to say that I dig your style.
Can you do Wolfman and Perez’s New Teen Titans
AWESOME video.
9 out of 10.
I just wish the music was much lower 🤷🏻♂️
Do a video about Kravens Last Hunt and Spectacular by Dematties please
Can anyone recommend some novels similar to the Fantastic Four, in the sense that it blends elements and themes of family, action/adventure, exploration, and sci-fi together?
I just discovered your channel and enjoyed the videos. Curious though about your comment about John Byrne’s bigotry…what exactly has he said or done that would label him a bigot?
@@camilocuba6927 unfortunately there’s a wealth of stuff you can pick from. There’s him referring to immigrants who still live their home as “ungrateful” when talking about his depictions of Superman, he openly mocked Christopher Reeves’ disability, he spouted lots of islamophobic statements throughout the 2000’s and and lately has stated a lot of transphobic stuff. He’s also got his own Internet forum that’s host to a lot of toxicity.
Thank you, Claremont, for turning an underwhelming team and comic book by Stan "The Mediocre Man" Lee into something relevant.
Who did you have reading this Claremont quotes? He's Canadian, has a Baritone voice and doesn't sound British at all! Good video, but that really caught me off guard.
Telling is ok when you tell well.
Would you ever cover any Byrne work
I miss "old" Marvel
Yaaaah
Let's get this video to a lot of views in the first hour so that it gets love from youtube
Algorithm bless this video which i liked even before watching it because it's that good
Seriously, sometimes i end up pissed off because i can't like it again after watching it, fix that youtube
Lots of words lots of engagement, yadda yadd
aaaah
Let's get this video to a lot of views in the first hour so that it gets love from youtube
Algorithm bless this video which i liked even before watching it because it's that good
Seriously, sometimes i end up pissed off because i can't like it again after watching it, fix that youtube
Lots of words lots of engagement, yadda yadd
I do love when people complain about things like modern X-Men (and comics as a whole) by saying it's just a checklist of diversity, and that runs like Claremont suffered no such "faults." Claremont's relaunch was literally a checklist of diversity.
Honestly Claremont’s time might be one of the greatest indicators of how impactful diversity can be on storytelling. I’d argue it’s the thing that made the X-Men feel more real and fluid than ever before.
@ForEveryKindofGeek without question. Having a group of people so glaringly different from one another allowed for such a vast array of storytelling.
:< D
Define history of bigotry with John Byrne
He has been rightly called out over transphobic statements, Islamophobic statements, and all sorts of unsavory stuff on his personal forum over the years.
Yaaaah
Let's get this video to a lot of views in the first hour so that it gets love from youtube
Algorithm bless this video which i liked even before watching it because it's that good
Seriously, sometimes i end up pissed off because i can't like it again after watching it, fix that youtube
Lots of words lots of engagement, yadda yadd