My oldest son got into welding back in 1999 he was welding 36" pipe, with in 5 years he was making twice my pay. I was making aircraft body panels for Bell helicopters. I worked inside climate controlled buildings,He was envious of my job, I was envious of his GREAT PAY! HE RETIRED EARLY HE'S 56 YEARS OLD NOW!
I, finally, joined the Marines in 1999. I have a 22 and 29 year old step-daughters now. Back in 2007-2012 I was at Stennis Space Center working for Lockeed and Rolls-Royce as a Turbofan Test Engineer on the Trent 900, 1000, XWB, and BR-725 (engine number 1). Unfortunately, I don't have sons. I have daughters to take care of. However, I taught them what I could based on my background. It's nice to see another like me!
Mate no word of a line I'm in mining in Australia and I am doing this same job on the same machine never welded brass to steel this is a huge help thank you so much
Always good to watch your videos never boring as your always working on different equipment in different locations ! Always something different ! I was surprised Jacob wasn't along but I understand you have more than one job going at same time ! Thanks for the video stay safe and God Bless you & your family !
Great work. I've done 12 sets of those v seat liners on our cones. We use an aluminum-bronze wire. The factory install procedure tell you to preheat the steel v seat to 300+ degrees before welding
The electrode is probably E or ERCuAl-A2. A little preheat is probably helpful, it may improve the bond and depending on the alloy of steel used, prevent cracking.
Good video. I'm an old industrial commercial plumber and if you know how to weld the world is your oyster! just bought my youngest son a multiprocessor so he can practice when he's home. he's trying to get an apprenticeship with Hobart, too early to tell, but he's gonna be good with proper training. gonna watch this with him tonight. thanks for putting this out there!
I’ve only started the video but, This is a cone crusher, HP400 or 500 as you say. That big piece on the ground is the support bowl. The bits off brass is the mainframe seat liner, and they’re brazed/ welded onto the mainframe. The big rams are the tramping cylinders with accumulators. I work with two HP300’s regularly
Thanks I was wondering what this was part of. I've seen people TIG braze before but this is the first I've seen using brass wire in MIG. So much to learn about this stuff.
I did a lot of TIG Brazing on certain race cars ( Classic Rally Racers ) I think that Bentley and Roles Royce are the only ones that still do their seams that way but they use mig process...Spool of that stuff is crazy high priced
Great job, good to see a grinder with it's guard fitted. I know someone who's brother got half a 9 inch cutting disc stuck in their arm. Don't risk it.
I watched another video, I think it was for masonry, but they had a wheel so large on the grinder that it partially covered the trigger (but still left room for your fingers)
Mig-brazing. I have tig brazed with silicon bronze and aluminum bronze, but haven't tried mig. Yet. I need to get a spool of silbrz. For some applications, I'd actually prefer AL-Brz......but it's so ridiculous expensive, & I'm not sure why- Excellent video & repair!
Thanks for filming this. I guess I had heard of this process before but never actually seen it. Everyone on TH-cam focuses on TIG welding with silicon bronze. It appears to run fairly well though but I’m sure you’ve run it before.
interesting. i tried to tig weld steel to aluminum once using two filler rods, needless to say it was unsuccessful. that looks good. interesting elevated tanker there, simplifies the relocation, never seen that before.
Hey Greg, have heard of Piher clamps i definitely recommend them fir your line of work much better then the Bessy style imo. There made in Europe Spain, they have a double threaded screw mechanism which increases the pressure you can apply by hand. They really are way ahead of the bessy clamp especially for stuff you need ti squeeze together. Piher Maxipress R is the 6inch throat depth one comes in various lengths.
I’ve been playing around with that wire and still haven’t got it to work right. It’s usually all bubbly. I might try running straight argon next time with the settings you wrote down. I’m eventually trying to braze a hole I put in the engine block of an old John Deere 544a that I bought from the saw mill
Silicon bronze wire I have never seen used. Thanks Greg for showing the process! I’m learning from your videos, and am truly appreciative of the work you put into these. Good to see that MM220 being used with the new 800. Great combination for the field. How would you compare to a suitcase setup? The reason I ask is because I am considering a suitcase purchase, even though I have a Miller Multimatic 215 and a Primeweld MIG-285 I can use with my Bobcat.
The only real difference between the 220 and something like a 12vs is the 220 welds a little smother with hard wire. And a little smoother on lower voltage.
I never seen Brass welded before. I thought because of the melting point of brass, and the melting point of steel. Would conflict with each other. Therefore not getting a good clean weld. ..Nice work !!!
Great content! If you had to do it with stick which would you use? I love watching big boy welding jobs, you get some good ones. Thanks for all you share with us.
@OFW I kinda figured that. I may see one of these myself one day. I've worked on jaw crushers but not cones. Thanks for the info, I hope to be just like you when I grow up 😁
Nice job,as usual, but I think you are actually welding those pieces when using the MIG process. I don't think you have enough control over the heat to actually "Braze" the silicon bronze onto the steel. The ability to hit that sweet spot heat range and open the pores of the base metal just enough to "Braze' or "solder" the bronze can really only be achieved with a TIG process and pedal as you can watch the puddle and start to move as the bronze liquefies but the base steel doesn't. Just my opinion as I have always had to use TIG with silicon bronze when working with dissimilar's. I know it (MIG) seems to work well with cast irons but again I think there you"re still "welding" but relying on the elastic properties of the silicone bronze to help get past the "hot short" characteristics of the cast iron to reduce the cracking stress potentials. You're finished product looked pretty nice though and it certainly makes more money time wise than TIG. Always like your video's and your no-nonsense approach to explanation and just getting the job done. I use that same 220ACDC machine everyday in my shop and am pretty happy with it. Love your line boring setups and processes as well. Mark
10:00 think the thing about the gold nugget looking rocks... that are just field stone but gold ish brass colored, have actual copper and zinc in them? found tons of those on the driveway as a kid and made a big pile, then the other kid stole them all.
Do you run any special liner in your gun for silicone bronze wire? I have problems with it kinking while it is being fed sometimes. I ran it in my spool gun in the past with no problem though. Thanks! Awesome video!
Have you seen the new M18 Milwaukee grinder that you can't remove the guard or the side handle. The side handle has a switch on it that has to be pressed "first" before the paddle switch will work. If you release the paddle switch then press it again it won't work without resetting the switch on the side handle. It's the new angle grinder for pansies.
That’s awesome Greg! I have only ever flame welded with bronze filler and it was challenging. Seen it used with TIG but haven’t seen it done with wire feed. Didn’t even know what gas to use. When I worked in the gravel mines when I was younger we had Jacques cones and they had no such sacrificial piece between the upper and lower sections. Did I hear Jacob was on another job? Did he graduate from helper?
That’s awesome. I train guys in my industry and have been for a few years. It cool to see them grow and learn and succeed. Oddly enough it has changed from young guys a few years ago to training guys older than me this last year and it’s become much more challenging, the old guys are resistant to learning and want to focus only on what they already know and work to avoid getting with the times and the evolution of technology.
I do 90% of my work in the bentonite clay mines in wyo and the dakota's that looks like clay i deal with most days but its a different color its usually a shade of rust color it gets everywhere and it sticky my wife made me but a shower in her garage (shop is mine) when im coming home usually fri she put cloths out there for me and i wash and change in garage and has special washer there for my wirk cloths
Using compressed gas instead of compressed air would definitely give you a better finish. When plasma cutting was invented it was only used with compressed gas.
I wonder how many welding shops they had to call before they found someone that knew how to use a MIG welder with brass/bronze as filler material? 🤔 I have a feeling the shop close to me would look at someone like they have a third eye if they were asked that question. I wasn't aware it could be done.
@@dans_Learning_Curve I read every single comment and try to respond to most comments. Especially someone like yourself who always leaves a comment on my videos.
What Bernard gun do you have on your 220? I know you mentioned it in an old video but I can’t find it. I’m about ready to swing the machine around by the whip it comes with. Did you have to build it out or is it one that plugs right in?
@@OFWdang everywhere I called said they had to be pieced together for the ends. Something about the 220 being different I was told never really looked. I’ve had the 220 since it came out and leave it on my service truck too. Comes in real handy hate the gun on it though but I have only half ruined it so far. Thanks for the help.
In the world of plumbing there are brass and red brass pipe and fittings. Some projects would call out red brass, I don't recall why nor what the characteristics are.
Re: keeping the guard on the grinder, I keep wondering why so many professionals on YT keep removing the side grips. They're so darn useful. So much more control. I actually bought an _extra_ one for mine, and a much better and more expensive one than standard! #PimpMyGrinder
i don't think you can solder with MIG...I think that's brazing, but I could be wrong. soldering is below 840 degrees F. never seen it done like that. only with TIG
Best videos on TH-cam. Greg is teaching class and he don't even know it! LOL! Thanks man!
You are spot on there!
He & Issac IC Weld always teaching, teaching all we need to do is learn.
My oldest son got into welding back in 1999 he was welding 36" pipe, with in 5 years he was making twice my pay. I was making aircraft body panels for Bell helicopters. I worked inside climate controlled buildings,He was envious of my job, I was envious of his GREAT PAY! HE RETIRED EARLY HE'S 56 YEARS OLD NOW!
I, finally, joined the Marines in 1999.
I have a 22 and 29 year old step-daughters now.
Back in 2007-2012 I was at Stennis Space Center working for Lockeed and Rolls-Royce as a Turbofan Test Engineer on the Trent 900, 1000, XWB, and BR-725 (engine number 1).
Unfortunately, I don't have sons. I have daughters to take care of.
However, I taught them what I could based on my background.
It's nice to see another like me!
Mate no word of a line I'm in mining in Australia and I am doing this same job on the same machine never welded brass to steel this is a huge help thank you so much
Always good to watch your videos never boring as your always working on different equipment in different locations ! Always something different ! I was surprised Jacob wasn't along but I understand you have more than one job going at same time ! Thanks for the video stay safe and God Bless you & your family !
*On Fire Welding* Bravo well done, thank-you sir for taking the time to bring us along. GOD Bless.
Great work. I've done 12 sets of those v seat liners on our cones. We use an aluminum-bronze wire. The factory install procedure tell you to preheat the steel v seat to 300+ degrees before welding
The electrode is probably E or ERCuAl-A2. A little preheat is probably helpful, it may improve the bond and depending on the alloy of steel used, prevent cracking.
That’s why I love these TH-cam channels,so many different processes of repairs/manufacturing
Thanks for the video, very informative
I too always keep my guard on my grinder, until the first time I need to take it off.. Great work as always.
The Master works his magic again. Lovely job on this one. Thank you
Good video. I'm an old industrial commercial plumber and if you know how to weld the world is your oyster! just bought my youngest son a multiprocessor so he can practice when he's home. he's trying to get an apprenticeship with Hobart, too early to tell, but he's gonna be good with proper training. gonna watch this with him tonight. thanks for putting this out there!
I’ve only started the video but, This is a cone crusher, HP400 or 500 as you say. That big piece on the ground is the support bowl. The bits off brass is the mainframe seat liner, and they’re brazed/ welded onto the mainframe. The big rams are the tramping cylinders with accumulators. I work with two HP300’s regularly
Thanks I was wondering what this was part of. I've seen people TIG braze before but this is the first I've seen using brass wire in MIG. So much to learn about this stuff.
Neat process, thanks for bringing us along.
Scott
I'm Glad I found your channel. Keep them coming!!
I did a lot of TIG Brazing on certain race cars ( Classic Rally Racers ) I think that Bentley and Roles Royce are the only ones that still do their seams that way but they use mig process...Spool of that stuff is crazy high priced
I learned something new today! Thanks!Greg! For sharing! Awesome video!👌👍
Cool time lapse with the clouds! I always appreciate a good view while working
Great work there.I learned something new today.Thanks.
Thanks for the welcome back ,never gets boring watching you whistle while you work😅 All the gold in California is in a bank in Beverly Hills
The Goat back at it again with another one! Nice job Greg! Definitely a lot faster than tig brazing it that’s for sure
very strange seeing plasma arcing with no sparks.....love the snow on the mountains......
That's a first for me using that wire. Worked out pretty good. Thanks for sharing with us.
Great insights and handful of learning experience through ur videos. Looking forward to more. Cheers ❤
Great job, good to see a grinder with it's guard fitted. I know someone who's brother got half a 9 inch cutting disc stuck in their arm. Don't risk it.
I watched another video, I think it was for masonry, but they had a wheel so large on the grinder that it partially covered the trigger (but still left room for your fingers)
That wire makes a great looking weld, thank you for sharing!
Greg I am coming to California to bne your apprentice. You have so much talent. All I am is just a old pipe welder.
Great to have you back
That was very interesting indeed young man. A job well done too!
Very interesting. Thanks for another "tutorial." :-) I got bit by a grinder doing that. It took 2 months to completely heal.
Looks like a machine from NASA, always look forward to your vids m8, spot on brother
I've never heard of welding these two different materials together, fascinating
I always learn something new in your videos. 👍🏻👍🏻
Mig-brazing. I have tig brazed with silicon bronze and aluminum bronze, but haven't tried mig. Yet. I need to get a spool of silbrz. For some applications, I'd actually prefer AL-Brz......but it's so ridiculous expensive, & I'm not sure why-
Excellent video & repair!
Greg you the man brother thanks for sharing
Gotta like the nice straight forward jobs when they show up. Never ran that filler material through a MIG, always TIG.
Nice one... although I was hoping for some half inch rebar... must keep on watching I guess... 😉🙂👍
There will be more of that coming up.
Your videos are always interesting 👍🏻👍🏻🇬🇧
Very interesting. Never seen that technique before.
Brass, A:s or Grass, nobody welds for free....good stuff Greg, cheers, Paul over in Florida
awesome work love your vids
Thanks for filming this. I guess I had heard of this process before but never actually seen it. Everyone on TH-cam focuses on TIG welding with silicon bronze. It appears to run fairly well though but I’m sure you’ve run it before.
I have a couple hundred hours of tig brazing experience. I was impressed with how well it worked in the mig.
Top notch workmanship.
Olá amigo caompanhando seus trabalhos!!!Muito bom trabalho como sempre, e boa sorte!!!
You get some really interesting jobs in some remote locations, Greg. Very cool! What does that machine do? A rock crusher of some sort?
Yes, after the jaw crusher it goes through the cone crusher. Unfortunately they had it all tore apart and I couldn’t really explain it to you guys.
@@OFW Understood, no worries. Thanks for the reply!
interesting. i tried to tig weld steel to aluminum once using two filler rods, needless to say it was unsuccessful. that looks good. interesting elevated tanker there, simplifies the relocation, never seen that before.
The grinder guard 🤣
The finished product looks good
you meant to say great!, right?
Nice job.
Hey Greg, have heard of Piher clamps i definitely recommend them fir your line of work much better then the Bessy style imo.
There made in Europe Spain, they have a double threaded screw mechanism which increases the pressure you can apply by hand.
They really are way ahead of the bessy clamp especially for stuff you need ti squeeze together.
Piher Maxipress R is the 6inch throat depth one comes in various lengths.
I have seen them. Maybe I’ll give them a try.
I’ve been playing around with that wire and still haven’t got it to work right. It’s usually all bubbly. I might try running straight argon next time with the settings you wrote down. I’m eventually trying to braze a hole I put in the engine block of an old John Deere 544a that I bought from the saw mill
Straight argon is probably a better choice.
alpha brass..more corrosion resistant...higher copper content, more red than "gun brass"
Awesome stuff!
Keep em coming!!!!
Nice job
That's some big lathe for machining that ring💪💪💪
Losers use emojis.
Great Vid 👍👍👍👍
Just did a job like this, this past summer. I hate cone crushers lol
Have a Nordberg cone crusher that has a similar setup... Royal Crown stick electrodes are available when that's your only option.
Good job 👍
Silicon bronze wire I have never seen used. Thanks Greg for showing the process! I’m learning from your videos, and am truly appreciative of the work you put into these. Good to see that MM220 being used with the new 800. Great combination for the field. How would you compare to a suitcase setup? The reason I ask is because I am considering a suitcase purchase, even though I have a Miller Multimatic 215 and a Primeweld MIG-285 I can use with my Bobcat.
The only real difference between the 220 and something like a 12vs is the 220 welds a little smother with hard wire. And a little smoother on lower voltage.
I have a 10 lb. tube of 1/8 brass welding rods someone gave me 30 years ago. They are a whole lot different than welding with 7018"s
Did a lot of manganese bronze welding works great on stee
I never seen Brass welded before. I thought because of the melting point of brass, and the melting point of steel. Would conflict with each other. Therefore not getting a good clean weld. ..Nice work !!!
It's not welding, it's brazing. The base steel is not melted. It's a coalescing process like soldering
Great content! If you had to do it with stick which would you use? I love watching big boy welding jobs, you get some good ones. Thanks for all you share with us.
I believe they make silicone bronze stick rods. That’s what I would use.
@OFW
I kinda figured that. I may see one of these myself one day. I've worked on jaw crushers but not cones. Thanks for the info, I hope to be just like you when I grow up 😁
Another " FAB " job
I have used carbon dioxide to plasma cut copper worked pretty good much cleaner edge
Nice job,as usual, but I think you are actually welding those pieces when using the MIG process. I don't think you have enough control over the heat to actually "Braze" the silicon bronze onto the steel. The ability to hit that sweet spot heat range and open the pores of the base metal just enough to "Braze' or "solder" the bronze can really only be achieved with a TIG process and pedal as you can watch the puddle and start to move as the bronze liquefies but the base steel doesn't.
Just my opinion as I have always had to use TIG with silicon bronze when working with dissimilar's. I know it (MIG) seems to work well with cast irons but again I think there you"re still "welding" but relying on the elastic properties of the silicone bronze to help get past the "hot short" characteristics of the cast iron to reduce the cracking stress potentials.
You're finished product looked pretty nice though and it certainly makes more money time wise than TIG.
Always like your video's and your no-nonsense approach to explanation and just getting the job done. I use that same 220ACDC machine everyday in my shop and am pretty happy with it.
Love your line boring setups and processes as well.
Mark
Nice!
Definitely bronze. Brass would just fizzle and disappear. Brass is a major PITA to weld. Nice job winding that .035 on a ten lb spool!
I'm always intrigued about costs and how much that brass ring would be worth.
I’m not sure what the new one cost, but I bet it was a couple grand at least.
You would be shocked at the scrap value of red bronze. I got $600 for a wheelbarrow full
10:00 think the thing about the gold nugget looking rocks... that are just field stone but gold ish brass colored, have actual copper and zinc in them? found tons of those on the driveway as a kid and made a big pile, then the other kid stole them all.
i want to buy a roll of that wire and try this!! thats very cool!!!
Hey at the end, what was that conditioning disk? Great content btw. Ive TIG brazed plenty, never even knew you could dc mig SB.
It was a 3m scotch bright style pad. I believe it’s in my amazon store.
Do you run any special liner in your gun for silicone bronze wire? I have problems with it kinking while it is being fed sometimes. I ran it in my spool gun in the past with no problem though. Thanks! Awesome video!
Nothing special. I haven’t had any issues yet.
Have you seen the new M18 Milwaukee grinder that you can't remove the guard or the side handle. The side handle has a switch on it that has to be pressed "first" before the paddle switch will work. If you release the paddle switch then press it again it won't work without resetting the switch on the side handle. It's the new angle grinder for pansies.
308 👍's up on fire welding thank you for sharing 😅
Question, is that the mig gun that came with that Millermatic 220? Nice work.
No, it’s aftermarket. Bernard
That’s awesome Greg! I have only ever flame welded with bronze filler and it was challenging. Seen it used with TIG but haven’t seen it done with wire feed. Didn’t even know what gas to use. When I worked in the gravel mines when I was younger we had Jacques cones and they had no such sacrificial piece between the upper and lower sections. Did I hear Jacob was on another job? Did he graduate from helper?
Yes, I have been letting Jacob take the Ram to go do jobs on his own. He still has a lot to learn with welding but he is a pretty good mechanic.
That’s awesome. I train guys in my industry and have been for a few years. It cool to see them grow and learn and succeed. Oddly enough it has changed from young guys a few years ago to training guys older than me this last year and it’s become much more challenging, the old guys are resistant to learning and want to focus only on what they already know and work to avoid getting with the times and the evolution of technology.
Is this your first job with your new machine?
No. About the 7 th
they mix in helium for welding, maybe that would help for gouging?
Alright we're back ,,ya ,,Coffees on! Here we go! Cheers!;-)!!
Very neat best guess ppb Bronze.
I do 90% of my work in the bentonite clay mines in wyo and the dakota's that looks like clay i deal with most days but its a different color its usually a shade of rust color it gets everywhere and it sticky my wife made me but a shower in her garage (shop is mine) when im coming home usually fri she put cloths out there for me and i wash and change in garage and has special washer there for my wirk cloths
Was the choice of wielding wire because it will wear like brass?
No, it’s because it can bond the two dissimilar metals together in a strong bond.
Using compressed gas instead of compressed air would definitely give you a better finish. When plasma cutting was invented it was only used with compressed gas.
Is the tanker on poles used for something or just a static display? 🤔
It’s used to gravity fill water trucks.
Cool
I've seen a TIG torch as a heat source for brazing, but this is new.
awesome
Yep your good
What makes all the black soot is that because 100% argon or the wire.
I think it’s a combination of things including some dirt that probably got in there.
I wonder how many welding shops they had to call before they found someone that knew how to use a MIG welder with brass/bronze as filler material? 🤔
I have a feeling the shop close to me would look at someone like they have a third eye if they were asked that question.
I wasn't aware it could be done.
They called the local guy and he laughed and said it can’t be done. Then they called me.
@@OFW 😁
@@OFW appreciate you responding!
Must get busy with a growing channel.
@@dans_Learning_Curve I read every single comment and try to respond to most comments. Especially someone like yourself who always leaves a comment on my videos.
@@OFW you actually remember my channel? 🤔 WoW 😳 I'm impressed!
What Bernard gun do you have on your 220? I know you mentioned it in an old video but I can’t find it. I’m about ready to swing the machine around by the whip it comes with. Did you have to build it out or is it one that plugs right in?
Just a regular q style miller gun.
@@OFWdang everywhere I called said they had to be pieced together for the ends. Something about the 220 being different I was told never really looked. I’ve had the 220 since it came out and leave it on my service truck too. Comes in real handy hate the gun on it though but I have only half ruined it so far. Thanks for the help.
@@motoz3939 check out welding supplies from IOC. They hav a lot of stuff in stock.
love you,re videos when you pull up buiseness is gonna get done i know it is not cheap but what i now days
In the world of plumbing there are brass and red brass pipe and fittings. Some projects would call out red brass, I don't recall why nor what the characteristics are.
Doesn't red brass a higher copper % than "normal".
is that not just fancy brazing?
How long of a lead you have on your plasma cutter
50 ft but they do make a 75 ft
Bon Boulo😆😆👍👍
If you used argon and helium it would weld hotter it sure helped my aluminum welding
how can the shielding gas not blow away in the wind?
Gas turned up, high quality consumables.
👍
Re: keeping the guard on the grinder, I keep wondering why so many professionals on YT keep removing the side grips. They're so darn useful. So much more control. I actually bought an _extra_ one for mine, and a much better and more expensive one than standard! #PimpMyGrinder
i don't think you can solder with MIG...I think that's brazing, but I could be wrong. soldering is below 840 degrees F. never seen it done like that. only with TIG