That was absolutely the best way to fix that. Nice repair, I'd bet that it will last longer than it did when it came new from the factory. Most shops would have just half-assed it and stuck a set of bushings in the wallowed out holes. I bet you stay very busy because not many people are able to do those types of repairs. Stay safe out there, looking forward to the next one!
If they don't grease it, then it'll be back in the shop for repair in the near future... Hard to understand operators that never have time to properly grease their machines. grease is cheaper than a repair...
What an excellent repair :-D You have saved two handy machines, your lathe and the tractor. Some of the old machines are quality made and well worth repairing. My mum used to work at an old engineering company called Alfred Herberts. There lathes were well made and when the company finally closed down, a lot of herberts lathes were shipped to loads of other countrys, not wasted. Years later the machines were still being used, maybe herberts made them a bit too well lol. Sorry i'm waffling too much lol.
My father ran the shop at Criterion machine works 70s and 80s. well known for boring heads, bars. Every machine imaginable there including a CNC dept. No longer in Business. Anyway, that lathe you have is sweet. I miss using the old machines. Harding, monarch, Bridgeport mills. You have impressive supply of tools. and well versed. Like my late father. Love your videos. Thanks
I probably have done around 400 of these repairs on this exact hole and tractor series the past 12 years I've been doing small scale line boring for the machine shop I work for. I get to go around to the local John Deere dealerships, independents, and farmers when they have the tractors set up like this. Yeah taking the steering motor out is a big pain tapered head bolts that are loc-tighted in and a hydraulic oil mess. Plus risk of handling damage to the fittings when left on the casting. Had to try and salvage one that had a crack from a fitting bore to cylinder bore that was a unrepairable. Algorithm randomly suggested one of your excavator videos a few months back and just checked in and seen that green triangle shape and I knew what was happening. I do not enjoy line boring (*edit*) *excavators but it's a job to be done. Cool to see someone doing the work I get to do.
Just now did a proof read and instead of an making an edit I meant to type I don't like line boring excavators set up the shop has is small. Tractor work is what I enjoy get to go to a shop instead of being out in the elements. Clearing out that grease passage is easy just put a grease gun on and pump it out. Sucks when the grease worm is so stuck it hase to be drilled out.
I love that lathe. I have an old southbound that was going to be sold to scrappers but I got in touch with the granddaughter first. I was able to get a whole bunch of tooling with it and better yet I was able to buy two industrial compressors at the same time to be able to do media blasting. Almost recovered from my accident and my 1957 Panhead is no more. I was going to start a mobile welding company however because of nearly getting my right leg crushed off I started a small engine repair shop with a speciality in engine drive welders.
As always I did enjoy the video ! I've never ran a lathe before wished I knew some of what you know bout milling parts ! Great job I'll bet they are well pleased with your workmanship !
Did this same repair on site when was a field machinist for a company. Only difference was did then line boring first until it cleaned up and added a step in the front for a flange on the bushing. Took all the measurements, machine shop would fabricate a new sleeve and install new bushing with a .002" press fit. Take it back to the machine, have part in dry ice. Installed it. Done several times.
Great repair!! I have made many similar on cast iron in roll grinding applications. Green loctite retaining compound and set screws to “Dutchmen” the part are always my best friend
Instead of a bushing, I use SiBrz .035 wire. Keep cast between 100 and 300 degrees to prevent internal stress. Take some time with a needle gun, 10 minutes-ish, and let cool back to around 150. Works every time.
I am looking for old lathes etc for a shop . Would love to find one like that. Also what brand line boring machine do you have? Thanks great videos keep it up.
That’s pretty cool being able to Cary everything in a job box and lift it out with your crane. Is that your fold out table you bring to job sites? That’s a good idea. Really like the videos!
Looks like it was making chips instead of powder like cast iron. It's probably a high carbon steel somewhere between high quality cast iron and steel. It'd probably would have welded pretty nice with dual shield but sleeving it was the best choice. Less to go wrong and easy. Love your work.
@@OFW Thanks for the conformation, sounds like you were able to get more info on it than I ever was when I machined some parts out of the similar material for a personal project a few years ago. Working with mystery steel is always a pain.
Great repair! So, where is the video of the repair in action? You know, fully reassembled and functional. Would be interested in that aspect of your endeavors. Also a great selling point.
When we did that to our tractor, we took that cast iron part off & took it to the machine shop. Never knew what or how they did that, now I know. That was 1983 I think, sold it in 1985.
What brand/type of carbide are you using? I've tried the ones that come with the kit from climax and recently some inserts from Sandvik. They work alright, but I would like to be able to run a larger depth of cut or faster feed rate without risk of chipping the insert.
I did the same thing on a large JD tractor a few months back, except they brought me the 900lb.front axle assembly to bore one of the pin bosses that was out-of-round. Used N55 rods and preheat (no machined sleeve option was available). Huge PITA! Had to set up using jackstands and a cherry picker. No easy way to attach my bearing standoffs. Hope I don't encounter another one anytime soon🤬
This is me being curious, the line boring machine. Hydraulic. Do those lines come off a hydraulic PTO on the truck? Or do you have a dedicated pump? Edit: your channel and content is killer. Found you a couple weeks ago and have already made my way most the way through your videos 😂
I do believe my IH garden tractor has a bigger front axle pivot than that John Deere. Nice repair though. Takes a lot of confidence in your abilities to do that on someone else's machine.
If three grease holes was good four would have been better...... LOL I like your approach regarding high stress apps in cast iron.... LOL you should have been a "steel rigger"!!!!! Great setup,. What was the tolerance for your steel bushing?
Nice video. Classic issue on those tractors. What tonnage is your portable press you pressed that in with? And what brand? Would you recommend it? I need to upgrade sometime.
To bad the farmer didn't bolt some plates... Channel on the side of the frame before you got there. Then all you would have to do is weld to that to fit your needs. Because I wouldn't want any welding rod touch the tractor.
Check out patent #5628591. This tool works wonderfully. I have done approximately 800 tractors this way over the years. It works better if you line up the grease hole in your bushing with the existing one in the casting so that it can be cleaned out when it gets clogged up with greasy dirt otherwise your track gets stopped up and grease will no longer get to the pin. Also pressing in the bushing is risky with that step in the casting as that is a stress point. I put a bolt with a large flat washer on each side and suck the bushing into the bore. Glad to see someone helping farmers.
Fabulous repair. I was wondering how much you under-bore for the crush but found that you had already answered that in the comments. So, did you do less than .001/inch for the bushing to cast iron bore? Like someone else commented, I was waiting for the cast to crack about the time the bushing was almost completely in.
They do make them, what are you talking about. This machine is made in Poland in EU. They still make these better ones, if you need parts they will provide, they now make even better like with computers etc. Like cnc machines. This model is old, now its all controlled by machines, human interaction is not needed
I think I speak for a lot of people, if you would be willing to do a more detailed scope of pricing, setup, runtime and dismantle prices, or how you would quote such jobs like these. Do you look to see the competitive rates in your area ?
Never ceases to amaze me at the things people will scrap! That old lathe is a kick ass piece of machinery. Nice fix btw, a real man of his craft =)
That was absolutely the best way to fix that. Nice repair, I'd bet that it will last longer than it did when it came new from the factory. Most shops would have just half-assed it and stuck a set of bushings in the wallowed out holes. I bet you stay very busy because not many people are able to do those types of repairs. Stay safe out there, looking forward to the next one!
This is why welders who know their business get the BIG BUCKS. Thanks for sharing.
Nice repair Greg, thanks for sharing. lets just HOPE that someone makes use of that grease fitting.
If they don't grease it, then it'll be back in the shop for repair in the near future... Hard to understand operators that never have time to properly grease their machines. grease is cheaper than a repair...
I really enjoyed the adjustment to be able to introduce the piece made by you. Well done.
Thanks for uploading video.
New shop looking good!😎👍👍So much more room bet the wifey is so happy to have her back yard back.😉👍👍
*On Fire Welding* Bravo well done, thank-you sir taking the time to bring us along. GOD Bless.
Very cool video. You definitely have a wide variety of projects in your line of work.
Nice job salvaging the lathe! I did that to get my first lathe. It's so sad when they end up in the scrap pile.
What an excellent repair :-D
You have saved two handy machines, your lathe and the tractor.
Some of the old machines are quality made and well worth repairing.
My mum used to work at an old engineering company called Alfred Herberts.
There lathes were well made and when the company finally closed down, a lot of herberts lathes were shipped to loads of other countrys, not wasted.
Years later the machines were still being used, maybe herberts made them a bit too well lol.
Sorry i'm waffling too much lol.
My father ran the shop at Criterion machine works 70s and 80s. well known for boring heads, bars. Every machine imaginable there including a CNC dept. No longer in Business. Anyway, that lathe you have is sweet. I miss using the old machines. Harding, monarch, Bridgeport mills. You have impressive supply of tools. and well versed. Like my late father. Love your videos. Thanks
Always the best repair and fab work Videos!!!!! Can't wait for the next!
That was a great repair and a great video. Up there with I C WELD and CEE Australia.
A lot of extra steps and great care going into another job well done! Thanks for sharing your solution to the problem.
That was a crazy setup for the boring. Great job!
I probably have done around 400 of these repairs on this exact hole and tractor series the past 12 years I've been doing small scale line boring for the machine shop I work for. I get to go around to the local John Deere dealerships, independents, and farmers when they have the tractors set up like this. Yeah taking the steering motor out is a big pain tapered head bolts that are loc-tighted in and a hydraulic oil mess. Plus risk of handling damage to the fittings when left on the casting. Had to try and salvage one that had a crack from a fitting bore to cylinder bore that was a unrepairable. Algorithm randomly suggested one of your excavator videos a few months back and just checked in and seen that green triangle shape and I knew what was happening. I do not enjoy line boring (*edit*) *excavators but it's a job to be done. Cool to see someone doing the work I get to do.
Just now did a proof read and instead of an making an edit I meant to type I don't like line boring excavators set up the shop has is small. Tractor work is what I enjoy get to go to a shop instead of being out in the elements. Clearing out that grease passage is easy just put a grease gun on and pump it out. Sucks when the grease worm is so stuck it hase to be drilled out.
Thank you for your Videos!! Please keep making them.
I love that lathe. I have an old southbound that was going to be sold to scrappers but I got in touch with the granddaughter first. I was able to get a whole bunch of tooling with it and better yet I was able to buy two industrial compressors at the same time to be able to do media blasting. Almost recovered from my accident and my 1957 Panhead is no more. I was going to start a mobile welding company however because of nearly getting my right leg crushed off I started a small engine repair shop with a speciality in engine drive welders.
Slick idea. Love the way you think up solutions. Very innovative.
That bushing installing machine is just a beast 😎😎
Nice job, man like watching your videos because nothing can stump you. You always find a solution to make things better then they ever were
Nice. Glad I'm not the only one who does it this way lol. It stresses me out to much to weld on cast.
I like the way you think and work.......cheers....
As always I did enjoy the video ! I've never ran a lathe before wished I knew some of what you know bout milling parts ! Great job I'll bet they are well pleased with your workmanship !
Very nice job thank God for the grease mites getting into the bushings at night
Plenty of variety great channel thanks for sharing
Did this same repair on site when was a field machinist for a company. Only difference was did then line boring first until it cleaned up and added a step in the front for a flange on the bushing. Took all the measurements, machine shop would fabricate a new sleeve and install new bushing with a .002" press fit. Take it back to the machine, have part in dry ice. Installed it. Done several times.
Great repair!! I have made many similar on cast iron in roll grinding applications. Green loctite retaining compound and set screws to “Dutchmen” the part are always my best friend
Hey brother I really enjoy your content, very informative very well-spoken very professional very much so appreciated
Great job, Very well planned!!!
The video is very very good, congratulations for the work, I follow you from Argentina
Instead of a bushing, I use SiBrz .035 wire. Keep cast between 100 and 300 degrees to prevent internal stress. Take some time with a needle gun, 10 minutes-ish, and let cool back to around 150. Works every time.
Yup, sweet. Thanks for sharing
Awesome repair. Enjoy your videos a lot!
that lathe is rock solid taking big bites with that boring bar - I've got a severe case of tool envy going on!
Another excellent repair!!
Nice repair! Thanks for the video 😊
I am looking for old lathes etc for a shop . Would love to find one like that. Also what brand line boring machine do you have? Thanks great videos keep it up.
Very good repair, that old girl is gonna get to live another day
Nice job. Very interesting!!!
Awesome! Good video! Thanks! 👌👍
Great solution and a well done repair. Enjoy the content.
Great videos
Great work
Great tradesman
Awesome work. Thanks for sharing
Another great repair, very well done
That’s pretty cool being able to Cary everything in a job box and lift it out with your crane. Is that your fold out table you bring to job sites? That’s a good idea. Really like the videos!
Yes, I started bringing a table and it makes it much nicer.
Awesome video!
Great job I'm sure that customer's happy
great repair
Solving problems One fire at a time! Yes you can use it... PS I want the 1st tee...lol
First 👍's up on fire welding thank you for sharing
Thank for giving up your time so we could be with at work 😉
Very impressive work!
Looks like it was making chips instead of powder like cast iron. It's probably a high carbon steel somewhere between high quality cast iron and steel. It'd probably would have welded pretty nice with dual shield but sleeving it was the best choice. Less to go wrong and easy. Love your work.
It was definitely cast iron I did several test and confirmed it with the Deere dealership.
@@OFW Thanks for the conformation, sounds like you were able to get more info on it than I ever was when I machined some parts out of the similar material for a personal project a few years ago. Working with mystery steel is always a pain.
Nice work bud👍
Awesome. Thank you
Nice Shop!!!
I have a similar John deere needs exactly that
Thanks.
Really enjoyed it.
How do you know the right clearance for pressing the bush in?
There is a formula. .001” per inch of diameter
@@OFW
Thank you
Thoughts of a grease passage filled with cast iron shavings would keep me up at night.
Excellent!! What method did you use to clear the grease inlet, of debris, in the casting, prior to pressing in the bushing?
Starting fluid and air
it looked like you are not wearing safety glasses
Another job well done
Great repair! So, where is the video of the repair in action? You know, fully reassembled and functional. Would be interested in that aspect of your endeavors. Also a great selling point.
I’ll do that when possible. On this job the customer took it apart and is going to put it back together.
Good work
wasnt it scary pressing into that cast iron, I was waiting to hear a crack...🤞
Very nice!
What type of boring machine you are using?
Any worry in breaking that casting when pressing in the sleeve? Is it possible to freeze the sleeve and heat the casting in that application?
Yes, I suppose you could do it that way.
When we did that to our tractor, we took that cast iron part off & took it to the machine shop.
Never knew what or how they did that, now I know. That was 1983 I think, sold it in 1985.
I asked if we could take it off and the customer said no. So I did what I could.
@@OFW gotta love customers that make the job more difficult, but good on you for making the customer happy and still doing a great job
@@OFW
And you can be proud of your work as I’m sure that you are. But it sure would have been nice to do all that work in the shop
Bon Boulo😄😄👍👍
Hmm World Cup or on fire welding ..... easy choice on fire it is
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Отличный ремонт 👍
What brand/type of carbide are you using? I've tried the ones that come with the kit from climax and recently some inserts from Sandvik. They work alright, but I would like to be able to run a larger depth of cut or faster feed rate without risk of chipping the insert.
I did the same thing on a large JD tractor a few months back, except they brought me the 900lb.front axle assembly to bore one of the pin bosses that was out-of-round. Used N55 rods and preheat (no machined sleeve option was available). Huge PITA! Had to set up using jackstands and a cherry picker. No easy way to attach my bearing standoffs. Hope I don't encounter another one anytime soon🤬
Was this failure caused by lack of maintenance? It certainly appears so . Good Job
Do you bore the hole slightly undersize to press in the new piece? By how much?
Yes. It depends on the size. A general rule is .001” per inch of diameter so a 5” round bushing has .005” of crush.
This is me being curious, the line boring machine. Hydraulic. Do those lines come off a hydraulic PTO on the truck? Or do you have a dedicated pump?
Edit: your channel and content is killer. Found you a couple weeks ago and have already made my way most the way through your videos 😂
Right now I’m running the hydraulics off of a HPU. “Hydraulic power unit “ in the bed. I am looking into the idea of running it off of the truck PTO.
@@OFW thanks for the reply man. Keep up the great work?
Label on the lathe says - Andrechev's Machinery Factory. First word is a kind of town's or region's name in Poland.
I do believe my IH garden tractor has a bigger front axle pivot than that John Deere. Nice repair though. Takes a lot of confidence in your abilities to do that on someone else's machine.
😊
If three grease holes was good four would have been better...... LOL I like your approach regarding high stress apps in cast iron....
LOL you should have been a "steel rigger"!!!!! Great setup,.
What was the tolerance for your steel bushing?
I think that one was .004” crush
Nice video. Classic issue on those tractors. What tonnage is your portable press you pressed that in with? And what brand? Would you recommend it? I need to upgrade sometime.
30 ton. Seems to be my most used ram. Enerpac is the brand. They are expensive, but I would recommend them.
@@OFW Haha they are expensive! I appreciate you taking the time to reply.
Good job Sir
Do you bore it a little looser for the press fit since it’s cast
Slightly, yes.
You need coolant not wd-40 on those machined parts
That will keep that axle from clunking around. Owners are going to like that.
Как вы замеряете диаметр отверстия когда установлена расточная штанга?
I use a snap gauge. Stick it in the tool hole and then measure that with calipers.
@@OFW покажите как-нибудь. Очень интересно взглянуть
Amazing what a little grease can prevent IF you grease it...
To bad the farmer didn't bolt some plates... Channel on the side of the frame before you got there. Then all you would have to do is weld to that to fit your needs. Because I wouldn't want any welding rod touch the tractor.
Instead of giving the farmer your business card. Give him a grease gun 🤣
fuckin eh nice job !
Check out patent #5628591. This tool works wonderfully. I have done approximately 800 tractors this way over the years. It works better if you line up the grease hole in your bushing with the existing one in the casting so that it can be cleaned out when it gets clogged up with greasy dirt otherwise your track gets stopped up and grease will no longer get to the pin. Also pressing in the bushing is risky with that step in the casting as that is a stress point. I put a bolt with a large flat washer on each side and suck the bushing into the bore. Glad to see someone helping farmers.
Fabulous repair. I was wondering how much you under-bore for the crush but found that you had already answered that in the comments. So, did you do less than .001/inch for the bushing to cast iron bore? Like someone else commented, I was waiting for the cast to crack about the time the bushing was almost completely in.
I did .004. A little on the tight side.
Thank you for your response. Merry Christmas to you and yours.
Primer comentario
what brand and model # of line bore machine
Climax BB 5000
Do you travel? have a John Deere here in the UK that also needs doing..
Yes but that would be pretty expensive.
Pronounced like "Andrykhoovska Fabricka Mashin" And Warszawa is Warsaw.
They do make them, what are you talking about. This machine is made in Poland in EU. They still make these better ones, if you need parts they will provide, they now make even better like with computers etc. Like cnc machines. This model is old, now its all controlled by machines, human interaction is not needed
At 5:24 are the lines inside of the part from chatter
I think I speak for a lot of people, if you would be willing to do a more detailed scope of pricing, setup, runtime and dismantle prices, or how you would quote such jobs like these. Do you look to see the competitive rates in your area ?
I quote almost nothing. Everything by the hour. $135-$300 a hour. Most line boring is $165
Get you some nitrogen and drop them bushings into and you won't have to press that stuff in, it will slip right in and once it warms up will be tight