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Thank you so much for making this video! 🙏 Can you make a video about how powerful is Goku from gt? People may have underestimate what he can do or who he compares to.
He really could stand to use a thesaurus, just in the name of keeping 'infinite' sounding like a word by the end of the video. "Arbitrary in size" or "endless" or "unbounded", maybe "without limits"... lots of ways you can say that something is irrationally vast. In fact, there's another one for ya. But in all seriousness, attempting to calculate the actual sizes of the dragonball universe is a lost cause. This video would've been a lot better if the author would've just focused on the *structure* of the universe, instead of its sizes, because almost all discussion of size winds up as 'it's infinite, but somehow more/less infinite than this other part".
Great coverage on the structure of the multiverse bro. Yeah the DB cosmology is insanely massive, love how Xenoverse made several sets of sets infinte multiverses to. Saying that BoG SSJG Goku is low-multiversal would be conservative tbh, and even most mid tiers from Heroes can threaten the entire cosmology is the crazier thing.
Yeah heroes introduces a new character every time that can threaten all of existence lol. And fused Miras death was going to destroy all of reality and infinite timelines before the time egg was removed from his body. It’s like theirs infinite sets of infinite timelines which all have infinite sets of i I fire universes in them
@Titan Hulk idk what u are talkin about there are multiverses and timelines in Dragon ball super and also super dragon ball heroes and also xenoverse. How do u think future trunks and Jiren exist
Because toriyama doesent exactly show it. Like he never actually showcased other universes except for those 12 and a few. Unlike marvel and dc who literally have a whole comic series on each of their infinite universes. Take spiderverse for example
@@dennisquiah7 1: toriyama isn’t bringing the erased universes back besides the ones in the tournament of power 2: satiama is in a completely different anime so no way he is going to be in dragon ball, and he wouldn’t even be that strong if he did appear 3: there’s already jiren someone stronger than any of the gods and I’m pretty sure there already is a god stronger than beerus
By this point the DragonBall Multiverse and fandom most likely would continue to grow as well as come out with more OP characters that could possibly drop The Omni-King in the later future. Just y'all wait I don't doubt Toriyama will attempt that just make Goku more stronger than he already is.
Eventually the power scaling will be so ridiculous Yamcha with weighted armor will be able to solo Fused Zen'o after the latter gained Kaioken, Ultra Instinct and had 8 months of training, yet Yamcha will still be the weakest of the Z fighters
But how much, is too much. If the Omni King is the one above all, then there is no going forward after that. I think Goku should end his journey to become the strongest after defeating the grand priest. Maybe taking up that role as a reward for winning the fight. Note that Omni king doesn’t fight. At least not in the capacity we see in every episode. More or less, after defeating gods gaurdian, you only have this child with a button that wipes away universes.
Dragon ball universe: An infinite macrocosm compose of several realms that are infinite. Goku vs Beerus: nearly destroy this infinite macrocosm from 3 punches. Majin Buu: Almost destroy the living universe which is infinite and the kaioshin realm which is 1/10 of the entire macrocosm so should be infinite or at least multi-galaxies in 2 separate occasions. Death battle: Goku is only planetary and the universe only have 4 galaxies Also death battle: Majin Buu is only planetary I don’t know why but I just got this feeling that Death Battle don’t know how to scale stuff accurately.
@@Toddles they said they using news 52, but they treated the superman like they were use a composite. Thats why people got frustrated when they contradicted themselves.
Toddles also there’s so many versions of Supermans out there, that I’m sure Goku could defeat some versions of him (I’m talking consistency of course not some some random outlier feats that contradict established feats)
Imagine if Goku used the time room to learn from his future self. I'm surprised dragon ball what if TH-camrs don't use that idea to make absolutely insane concepts
Severe Downplay on Farmer with a Shotgun, he is certainly far beyond even Outerversal+ (Outerverse is basically a space or dimension beyond the confines of a Multiverse, so it's above Multiversal in scaling)
Very well done chuck. I was also doing a live stream and explanation; but you've brought up points I did not; and even scans I didn't use due to it making it too complex. I'm impressed by this as many are afraid of scaling beyond universal for most DB characters. Nonetheless it was a good sense of humor and intel.
There is some evidence that points we could live in a multiverse, but nothing substancial so far. Although I am pretty sure you could reach that conclusion if you study Quantum Physics. I guess you could start with Sean Caroll in TH-cam.
I always thought the different universe's were separated by distance as it's shown in the Champa arc that there is space and even planets in between them. So its most likely operating on the bubble multiverse model. A timeline and a multiverse is the same thing, time traveling results in entire new multiverse with all gods, kaioshin, and realms included. In the Super continuity the time rings connect these muiltverses and every time past or future is changed a new ring is created. In Heros there are infinted timelines and there are referred to as dimensions.
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Also I'm very surprised the concept of the Demon Realm hasn't been explored more in canon. If done right, the Demon Realm could be to Dragon Ball what the Dark Multiverse is to DC. There is so much material there for them to explore, and it seems like they are leaving money on the table by not exploring the Demon Realm more.
No lie I'm hyped for not only spiderverse 2, but also Ps5 miles🔥💯😂 I think if they had a multiiversal db movie, a rouge Angel/ the grand priest himself would be the villain. I ain't forget those theories that in the t.o.p, it was secretly a plot for the grand priest to take over🔥😂
What if the room with all the clocks is just a room that links you to kamis mind? He’s been the guardian and observing for a while. Maybe his wisdom allows you to visit points in time from memory. He observes earth.
Um chuck i don’t know how did you get the name of the room wrong but it’s not the 5:54 “Hyperbolic time chamber” it’s The Hypertonic Lion Tamer or Hi p bola mind chamber or hyperglycemic crying chamber or hypee bonic Rhine chamber
@@justagamer4386 probably like 5000+ or something. Obviously he cannot do that since his energy wouldn't be able to expand that far out but he definitely contains the power capable of destroying those Universe, that's around his attack potency in base form.
The Omni King is the ruler of what you could call 'management' or our reality. There is a ruler or 'dismanagement' aka the other realities. This is the Kaitai King. The ruler of dismanagement is the one responsible for correcting timelines in which reality is disorganized. Aka any timelines in which universes have time machines that effect more than one universe, timelines that have a death of multiple supreme kaie and gods of destruction. So you need to realize this too when you talk about the multiverse. Everything is a yin/yang in dragon ball.
@@Chuck Chuck you forgot to talk about the other 4 top fighters of dragon ball multiverse who rival the el grande padre [(cough)Grand Priest] in the manga he is said to be no.1 but in the anime he was stated to be "among" top 5 not no.1 he could be no.1 but manga and anime follow are different from each other. But still where do you think they would stand ???.
@@fardin_king6817 Seeing how I'm rusty with Pokemon lore, I'd be interested to see a video from Chuck regarding the Pokemon cosmology as well. I've heard about Pokemon as a whole being around 6D before, so I'm really interested.
@@balazsdocs8897 Well we don't know how many dimensions are there in pokemon. And the problem in power scaling pokemon is sometimes DeX entry, anime, guides, manga, etc downplays their true power. Like Groudon created the land and is very small in games in anime he seems a big bit still I would expect something who created land to be bigger than the Himalayas and the same goes for kyogre and rayquaza. Creation trio is even more iffy, Dialga rules over time Palkia rules over space Giratina rules over antimatter and Arceus created them all. But the size seems very small for these godly pokemons according to DeX. And in the anime movie Arceus was badly wounded by the asteroid he was badly wounded again in an ambush by his creation and almost died even though his awakening caused rifts in time space and shook the realms of Dialga and Palkia and Giratina and in the manga he was tied to many ropes and was being dragged by team rocket grunts. And their are many other problems as well and other legendary pokemons face this problem.
My thoughts before watching the video : There is a guide that proves that the after life has higher dimensions . I can't find it but it's in my how strong is base vegeta video. The afterlife has heaven and hell. 2 higher dimensions. Along with the Mortal universe and the kaioshin realm which are 3D+.it makes one macrocosm a 5D structure. There are 12 of these macrocosms. And the zeno realm which is infinitely above the 12 macrocosms. Making it 6D. Contained in a timeline. One timeline is 6D. The room that holds the time rings appears to be endless (infinite timelines) trunks in the Manga says there are infinit timelines. So the dbs verse is a 7D+ structure. Don't forget that there is a large space between timelines. Making 8D+ structure. Please pin my comment 😇
People forget or don't realize that Zeno didn't just wipe out the timeline (stated in manga), but he also wiped out a being (Zamasu) who was going to take over multiple, possibly infinite (wank) timelines. We see this feat in Super when Zamasu begins to appear into different timelines simutaneously as Goku and co. are still in Future Trunks' timeline. A timeline alone can contain anywhere between a finite or infinite amount of macrocosms. In Super's case it's 12-18, but it could have easily been infinite and Zeno would have still wiped it out since he is skipping that step and simply deleting the entire timeline. Zeno's feat at the very least is multiversal if you want to lowball. He destroys a being that would have taken over at the very least multiple timelines which inhabit multiple macrocosms.
So Goku, beerus, and Vegeta are Multiverse in power. Cool, I would love to seem Goku, beerus, and Vegeta vs saint seiya universe. How far they can go. Cool video man keep up the good work.
They'd likely rank above most Gold Saints, but they'd still get crushed by the Gods and the people who scale to the Gods because of their 5D nature. Don't even get me started on Chronos, dude is at least 6D.
@@balazsdocs8897 Xeno Goku stomps all at once since you know he is 6D base form and 7D with ssj4 and possibly 8D with the God ki but he cant really control it
@@darius2544 No no no no no... Xeno Goku does stomp most of the verse, but in terms of dimensional tiering, he's only comparable to Chronos. There's nothing suggesting that SSJ4 makes him infinitely superior to his base form, and neither is there any for God ki. He's 6D at best, and to go even further beyond, no one in DB history is even 7D. The only DB character that I can see being 7D is Tori-Bot.
That's also ignoring the fact that Chronos practically lacks a true physical form anyways, so it's practically gonna be nigh-impossible for Xeno Goku to touch him, let alone hurt him or god forbid kill him.
Hey Chuck, I watched the video and I loved it👍 but in the video you said weren't entirely sure about the size of heaven so I just wanted to let you know that in Dbz KAKAROT King Yemma said that once those pass away in other planets like planet Vegeta, they all go to Heaven, the one that we all know of from the show or manga or whatever. So there's actually one Heaven per universe Hopefully that helps you with the multiverse of dragon ball
Hey chuck, I’m a marvel fan tbh, could we get a video on guys like the thing, wolverine, blue marvel, Namor, etc? I love all you’re marvel videos you’re the only one who does videos on marvel characters . You gotta gift for scaling
Could you make a visualisation of the infinite timelines & universes because i cant visualise in my head which causes me to not understand the video (it is similar to the Hunter x Hunter hatsu ability of the 4th Prince in the Prince elimination arc, the explanation given by tserriednich hui guo rou itself was hard to follow but when they visualised it with the user of "timedisplacement arrows" it was much easier to comprehend his ability)
Hey Chuck I love your videos and the videos you did with SethTheProgrammer a couple years back I'm sure you get that a lot so sorry if that's annoying, but I have been curious, are you and Seth still friends and/or going to make videos together again, I haven't seen you guys interact much only possibly on Twitter rarely. Perhaps I'm wrong? I'm sorry if so, anyway I really enjoyed this video I'm glad your still doing Dragonball proper. :)
Another way of putting it is infinity is a conceptual/archetypal number Some fools say it's not a number but it's just not a consistent number and sometimes more of an equation Ex: (10)^(10)^(10)^(10) or 10^87 and many others possibilities Also about time, time is connected to dimensions a 4D realm has a 4D time stream a 5D realm has a 5D timestream a 3D realm has a 3D timestream (etc) Outerversal realms have outerversal timestreams
the dragon ball verse is absolutely ridiculous in size and scope and i feel as if akira toriyama doesnt even realise that since we have ssg goku threatening a multi universal space and then the we see a ridiculous amount of characters scaling above that in DBS quite wacky tbh
I DB dragon ball cosmology all joined up together it would all become bigger than a mega verse ( consists of sets of infinite multiverses) and there are already conceptual beings in dragon ball heroes, super( zamasu) and we could in due time see a outerversal dimension in dragon ball super the closet dimension to that is beats world
@@TKing-ql8vn yes its more bigger because in dc or marvel they're using scientific multiverse like the real theory in real life but in dragonball its so huge
17:16 on a side note a lot of people like to say Goku nearly destroying the universe 7 macrocosm is an outlier feat but i actually don't think that's the case because most outlier feats in Dragon Ball have usually been the results of powering up or through special properties/ hax but Goku was doing it with his fists alone which means it scales to his physical strength and it's highly likely that still wasn't even his full power given he couldn't control his god ki at the time and so his power fluctuated out of his control. So while Goku in BOG scales to 3D you very well could make the argument that he's already 4D from the start of super and he upscales thousands to millions of times stronger than that feat alone as the series progresses which would easily land him into the realms of 5 to 6D.
What makes you say the time nest is in U7 exclusively? I don’t recall ever seeing that. I always thought it was a place between timelines and universes, hence the infinite amount of characters possible. Trunks was just summoned first because he messed with time. Or my theory that it’s the super trunks who’s time displaced... but he’s too old...but maybe snagged up younger before he’s time displaced. Idk still working on that lol
@King Zee and both Goku and Beerus were going to do just that. Destroy not one, but 2 and possibly 3 universe sized time space continuuae. The third being the Kaioshin realm. Arguing that it’s a separate time/space is shaky because other than the fact that it's a separate space that exists outside of not only the living universe, but the macrocosm as a whole is the only argument(I know of) that can be made regarding this.
King Zee For one, within universe 7, the afterlife as a whole is a realm separate from the living universe and was stated by Goku to have time that flowed differently than earth’s. The fact that it’s a separate space from the living universe that is at least universal in size already shows that it’s a different time/space. But now there’s the fact that time there actually flows differently than that of the living universe. The present wasn’t affected by Zeno erasing Infinite Zamasu probably because it look place within a separate timeline from the present. See, time travel works weirdly in DB; in the case of Trunks’ timeline we’re not exactly traveling to the future of the timeline we’re familiar with, but rather the future of an alternate DB timeline. That’s why the changes made to the ‘past’ in the Android arc didn’t change Trunks’ future. And that’s also why Zeno erasing Infinite Zamasu and Trunks’ timeline didn’t erase our ‘present’. Therefore, it’s not all ‘1 timeline’.
So if these Universes are infinite in size according to the cosmology of DB Multiverse, can Zeno fight Alien X one on one now without getting obliterated? Lol. Just kidding, either way, nice video Chuck
He's pretty damn powerful, but he's far from being the strongest Heroes character because the writers said that Beerus could kill Mechikabura if he wanted to (Of course I'm referring to the Beerus from the DB Heroes continuity). On top of that, there are implications of Hearts being more powerful than him, and Beerus didn't really see him as a threat. That being said, he is 6D like everyone else, because even his old state is far above Demigra, who was threatening to destroy not just the entire DBH Multiverse (Which includes the 5D Crack of Time), but also Beat's World (Which treats the multiverse + the Crack of Time as completely fictional) *I N B A S E .* I've also heard he has a lot of cool hax abilities as well.
Who's here after Chuck's recent evidence of the macrocosm apparently being 5D on Twitter? I still have to call sus on that one, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.
Wait wait wait, you forgot to mention one candidate for the creator of db cosmos, any guess??? By the way, Farmer with the shogun one shots him or her anyway, so no issues.
Funfact: There are more than 12 universe. And no not 18. The 12 universes are all remain the number 13 so U1 and U13 are connected, U2 and U11, U3 and U10 and so going on. That means there are universes who are not included in this system. Which makes sense since Space even leaves the universe.
20:07 i think what Toriyama really means by this is that the Demon Realm is only small compared to the other dimensions that reside in universe 7. The realm itself can still be scaled to infinite in size with the other realms simply having a higher level of infinity
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Can you make a video about how powerful is Goku from gt? People may have underestimate what he can do or who he compares to.
Can you power scale classic Dr strange
Will you still bring a video about byakuya?
yep!
This is how many times chuck said infinite
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a infinity times
Mountain level comments everywhere
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You heard it first here. Based God made the dragon ball multiverse 😁😁😂😂
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So saying DBS characters are universal is just plain severe downplay
They're uni+
@@Dwood777 low multi
@@YEK100 no, only zeno and the angels are low multi
@@Dwood777 stop the downplay, top tiers in the verse are multiversal - mid multiversal
@@Dwood777 OK stop with the DB downplay. Even boo saga fat boo (the weakest boo) is universal +
Take a shot everytime he says "infinite" 😂
You want somebody to die ?😂
Thanks a lot now my friend is dead.
He really could stand to use a thesaurus, just in the name of keeping 'infinite' sounding like a word by the end of the video. "Arbitrary in size" or "endless" or "unbounded", maybe "without limits"... lots of ways you can say that something is irrationally vast. In fact, there's another one for ya.
But in all seriousness, attempting to calculate the actual sizes of the dragonball universe is a lost cause. This video would've been a lot better if the author would've just focused on the *structure* of the universe, instead of its sizes, because almost all discussion of size winds up as 'it's infinite, but somehow more/less infinite than this other part".
My organs hurt
Great coverage on the structure of the multiverse bro. Yeah the DB cosmology is insanely massive, love how Xenoverse made several sets of sets infinte multiverses to. Saying that BoG SSJG Goku is low-multiversal would be conservative tbh, and even most mid tiers from Heroes can threaten the entire cosmology is the crazier thing.
This is absolutely crazy.....
Yeah heroes introduces a new character every time that can threaten all of existence lol. And fused Miras death was going to destroy all of reality and infinite timelines before the time egg was removed from his body. It’s like theirs infinite sets of infinite timelines which all have infinite sets of i I fire universes in them
I wonder how large the totality of DB is compared to composite Marvel and DC???
@@陳潔明-w6y a spec to a multi omniverse thats for sure :)
@@陳潔明-w6y and i meant DB to be the spec
So basically infinite timelines within infinite timelines on top of infinite timelines... MAKES SENSE!!
Wait what infinite timeline ssj thought that was for xeno verse
Just like marvel lol
@Titan Hulk idk what u are talkin about there are multiverses and timelines in Dragon ball super and also super dragon ball heroes and also xenoverse. How do u think future trunks and Jiren exist
@@speedrunrants420 just a butt hurt marvel fanboy you’ll see them come and go when watching dragon ball power scaling videos.
bullshit
They bash on this franchise for poor world building when in reality it has multiversal building
He is to dangerous to be dead!
@@brytonwallis4817 pardon?
Greetings universe fellow universe destroyer...though i have restructured multiverses before .
@@theadministrator2641 Zeno is low multiverse buster
Because toriyama doesent exactly show it. Like he never actually showcased other universes except for those 12 and a few. Unlike marvel and dc who literally have a whole comic series on each of their infinite universes. Take spiderverse for example
And even with how big the Dragon Ball universe is, Shin was so incompetent that he could only find 28 planets with mortal life lol
bota magetta meme when
@@Chuck When they become relevant again
I can't imagine what can possibly get more incompetent than this lol.
The reason why their were only 28 planets is because buu destroyed 1000 if not a million of planets and frizeza done about that much as well
@@CDecker571 yeah i heard that explanation somewhere in dragonball and it makes perfect sense especially the planet destroying rampage buu went on
So in summary....The DB Multiverse is really big
I’m just excited for toriyama bringing back the erased universes I wonder if they’ll have saitama there and a stronger god than beerus
@@dennisquiah7 What
@@dennisquiah7 Why tf would saitama be there? Even if he was he wouldnt be that strong in dragonball
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1: toriyama isn’t bringing the erased universes back besides the ones in the tournament of power
2: satiama is in a completely different anime so no way he is going to be in dragon ball, and he wouldn’t even be that strong if he did appear
3: there’s already jiren someone stronger than any of the gods and I’m pretty sure there already is a god stronger than beerus
@@Becuaseofme oh my bad grammar must have corrected me I was mentioning another charecter
I just realized how OP Goku's teleportation is
You mean yardrat 😏
Kai Kai > Shunkan Ido
By this point the DragonBall Multiverse and fandom most likely would continue to grow as well as come out with more OP characters that could possibly drop The Omni-King in the later future. Just y'all wait I don't doubt Toriyama will attempt that just make Goku more stronger than he already is.
Eventually the power scaling will be so ridiculous Yamcha with weighted armor will be able to solo Fused Zen'o after the latter gained Kaioken, Ultra Instinct and had 8 months of training, yet Yamcha will still be the weakest of the Z fighters
@@redjirachi1 imagine yamcha being a universal being and goku be like : awww come on yamcha you gotta start training you are sooo far behind 😂😂😂
But how much, is too much. If the Omni King is the one above all, then there is no going forward after that. I think Goku should end his journey to become the strongest after defeating the grand priest. Maybe taking up that role as a reward for winning the fight.
Note that Omni king doesn’t fight. At least not in the capacity we see in every episode. More or less, after defeating gods gaurdian, you only have this child with a button that wipes away universes.
Dragon ball universe: An infinite macrocosm compose of several realms that are infinite.
Goku vs Beerus: nearly destroy this infinite macrocosm from 3 punches.
Majin Buu: Almost destroy the living universe which is infinite and the kaioshin realm which is 1/10 of the entire macrocosm so should be infinite or at least multi-galaxies in 2 separate occasions.
Death battle: Goku is only planetary and the universe only have 4 galaxies
Also death battle: Majin Buu is only planetary
I don’t know why but I just got this feeling that Death Battle don’t know how to scale stuff accurately.
tbh goku cant beat cosmic armor superman so no he still wins
@@Toddles pretty sure death battle was using a fodder superman
@@Toddles they said they using news 52, but they treated the superman like they were use a composite. Thats why people got frustrated when they contradicted themselves.
Toddles fair enough but that’s doesn’t mean I’m wrong here right?
Toddles also there’s so many versions of Supermans out there, that I’m sure Goku could defeat some versions of him (I’m talking consistency of course not some some random outlier feats that contradict established feats)
Imagine if Goku used the time room to learn from his future self. I'm surprised dragon ball what if TH-camrs don't use that idea to make absolutely insane concepts
Toriyama forgets shit and that will probobly never happen in db
@@robertilic2258 plus goku wouldn't be up for a cheat code like that, he'd probably want to train conventionally
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This is the same guy that got forgot which Ssj forms were which, *and he's the one that basically made all almost of them*
@@ICTON123 I'm not disagreeing with his statement, I'm simply giving an in character reason as to why goku ain't lining up for that crap
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I meant to reply to the "Toriyama forgets shit" comment, I misclicked
So farmer with a Shotgun is beyond Multiverse?? That explains everything.
Severe Downplay on Farmer with a Shotgun, he is certainly far beyond even Outerversal+ (Outerverse is basically a space or dimension beyond the confines of a Multiverse, so it's above Multiversal in scaling)
@@ICTON123 what a downplay he is indefinitely beyond Boundless and every tier made by human imagination
@@ICTON123 sever downplay. He is beyond fiction lol
@@ICTON123 lmaoo nope, outerverse is not a physical ctructure but just meabs being beyond concept of time/space and dimensions.
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Ah, gotcha
Very well done chuck. I was also doing a live stream and explanation; but you've brought up points I did not; and even scans I didn't use due to it making it too complex. I'm impressed by this as many are afraid of scaling beyond universal for most DB characters.
Nonetheless it was a good sense of humor and intel.
The fact that the power meta for DBS is way higher than people want to admit
It's funny because it's true some people say Goku can't destroy a planet that's all Marvel fans
@@Sammy_the_best_there_ever_was nah not me for me his scaling is like low multi to multi
@@Sammy_the_best_there_ever_was what I know it's bs but that's every db hater not just marvel fans.
@@demontiming3234 200 Million are you taking about about Super Vegito from Z.? I can get him 10^80 times Multiversal
@@demontiming3234 I wasn’t taking about Getting Super Vegito to that I Was talking about getting Super goku to that
I have watched this so many times already and it does not get old
Very nice video! Your content has improved a lot over time.
I like how you use scans and everything it takes more work to be putting scans and images
just came back to your channel after 1-2 years and i love these videos keep it up
About time. So one can explain the multiverses in dragon ball I was going crazy thinking about it
Great video I never expected this here this topic is something I'd think Danny would answer
He's made pretty good videos explaining this stuff before, but I wanted to do a more in-depth one with the video games & guides.
Danny has explained stuff similar but he's not a powerscaler so he doesn't scale things like the infinite infinities etc etc LoL
@@Chuck no worries you've been putting out some bangers especially the Gojira Videos- I wonder if you could scale Ultraman?
There's a proven mulitverse in fictional universe but not in reality?!
Yes
There is some evidence that points we could live in a multiverse, but nothing substancial so far. Although I am pretty sure you could reach that conclusion if you study Quantum Physics. I guess you could start with Sean Caroll in TH-cam.
each living entity is a universe of their own
@@MrLimon27 i said no prove, there is evidence but not prove
@@MrLimon27 and i study quantom fisics (sorry bad English)
Great video, man!
Great video chuck. So there is a universe where I'm dating caulifla 😳.
It was cool to hear the explanation of the db multiverse.
Zenos house being on top of that blue jellyfish thingy is an absolute vibe . What a man
wait what’s with the Death Note themes all over the video 😭?Jesus even Near theme 😭
and also giorno remix theme ?
This video deserve more attention
I always thought the different universe's were separated by distance as it's shown in the Champa arc that there is space and even planets in between them. So its most likely operating on the bubble multiverse model. A timeline and a multiverse is the same thing, time traveling results in entire new multiverse with all gods, kaioshin, and realms included. In the Super continuity the time rings connect these muiltverses and every time past or future is changed a new ring is created. In Heros there are infinted timelines and there are referred to as dimensions.
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Chuck: The World of Void
Dragon ball fans: The World of Void
Me: The End
Also I'm very surprised the concept of the Demon Realm hasn't been explored more in canon. If done right, the Demon Realm could be to Dragon Ball what the Dark Multiverse is to DC. There is so much material there for them to explore, and it seems like they are leaving money on the table by not exploring the Demon Realm more.
All that information, wow the DragonBall universe is much much larger than I once thought
Great work, I'm a huge fan. Please keep making these wonderful hilarious videos!
5:20 I love how he says “Yamcha and the others” like Yamcha the top dog out of the human fighters
But he is , he is omnipotent +++++
love your videos they make alot more sense then some of the other power scalers i see.
Next Movie will be titled either
Dragon Ball into the Multiverse
or
Goku: Multiverse of Madness
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No lie I'm hyped for not only spiderverse 2, but also Ps5 miles🔥💯😂
I think if they had a multiiversal db movie, a rouge Angel/ the grand priest himself would be the villain.
I ain't forget those theories that in the t.o.p, it was secretly a plot for the grand priest to take over🔥😂
Don't forget that live action dragonball movie does exist we do not want to see that
No joke i would actually like to see that.
@@deathglock496 But we don't want the dragon ball evolution goku their right
don’t have time to watch rn, but imma leave a like and comment instead of scrolling by. keep up the good work, papi.
So Universe 7's one and only Kami just happened to be stationed on Earth of all places? You'd think each planet would have their own
What if the room with all the clocks is just a room that links you to kamis mind? He’s been the guardian and observing for a while. Maybe his wisdom allows you to visit points in time from memory. He observes earth.
Um chuck i don’t know how did you get the name of the room wrong but it’s not the 5:54 “Hyperbolic time chamber” it’s The Hypertonic Lion Tamer or Hi p bola mind chamber or hyperglycemic crying chamber or hypee bonic Rhine chamber
What?
Teacher:what did u learn
Me:Infinite
Some guy was saying beerus wasn't universal so I sent him this
His face is gonna be like 😳
Is this by any chance inspired by The Imaginary Axis' videos on on the DC and Marvel universes?
The fact DC is has MULTIPLE reality-fiction layers is just ridiculous...
Nah, just wanted to explain it.
@@justagamer4386 The answer: Yes.
No, try Webcam Parrot.
@@justagamer4386 probably like 5000+ or something.
Obviously he cannot do that since his energy wouldn't be able to expand that far out but he definitely contains the power capable of destroying those Universe, that's around his attack potency in base form.
So this makes God goku far stronger than we thought
And Zeno
What about GT Goku where does he compared to Dragon Ball super
@@Sammy_the_best_there_ever_was ssj god goku= ss4 gogeta
@@Sammy_the_best_there_ever_was Ssj4 Goku=7D
Goku ssb=9D
@@Diluc9127 idk about that chief🤷🏻♂️
Universe 7 macrocosm is huge my dude it has inifnite expansion size that infinite universes can fit inside
Ol boy dancing and sing, I’m in that t t time petrol! Getting jiggly with it! Lol. Nice video man.
The Omni King is the ruler of what you could call 'management' or our reality. There is a ruler or 'dismanagement' aka the other realities. This is the Kaitai King.
The ruler of dismanagement is the one responsible for correcting timelines in which reality is disorganized. Aka any timelines in which universes have time machines that effect more than one universe, timelines that have a death of multiple supreme kaie and gods of destruction.
So you need to realize this too when you talk about the multiverse. Everything is a yin/yang in dragon ball.
Isn’t that basically supreme Kai of times job who exists in another dimension entirely
Take a shot every time this man says “Time”
What a swell edumacation
Ah, you say that too. Neat
3:54 i’m begging u chuck wtf is this song called i love it with a passion
Reasoning from Death Note
Chuck THANK U SO MUCH
I know this channel from geekdom101
Just randomly clicked
Now I'm "INFINITLY ENLIGHTENED"👌 👼
Do these for bleach,Naruto and other anime.
Hey since DB heroes is a thing now, can you go over the multiverse/timeline and the power scaling for some of the characters?
DC characters like the Flash outran death, but they deny that Goku can shake nothingness. The bias LOL
Flash outran the death, but not the concept, the person, the god. Thays different, maybe death isnt faster than lifht, we donf know that.
Who would've thought the DB cosmos would be so complex? (if you include ALL material canon or not).
Still waiting for that Pokémon cosmology vid... :/
No promises, but I'll try to get to it later this year :)
@@Chuck Chuck you forgot to talk about the other 4 top fighters of dragon ball multiverse who rival the el grande padre [(cough)Grand Priest] in the manga he is said to be no.1 but in the anime he was stated to be "among" top 5 not no.1 he could be no.1 but manga and anime follow are different from each other. But still where do you think they would stand ???.
@@Chuck Hey chuck how big is the pokemon multiverse and how about a power scale on the pokemon multiverse cuz "Why The Hell Not!?"
@@fardin_king6817 Seeing how I'm rusty with Pokemon lore, I'd be interested to see a video from Chuck regarding the Pokemon cosmology as well. I've heard about Pokemon as a whole being around 6D before, so I'm really interested.
@@balazsdocs8897 Well we don't know how many dimensions are there in pokemon.
And the problem in power scaling pokemon is sometimes DeX entry, anime, guides, manga, etc downplays their true power.
Like Groudon created the land and is very small in games in anime he seems a big bit still I would expect something who created land to be bigger than the Himalayas and the same goes for kyogre and rayquaza.
Creation trio is even more iffy, Dialga rules over time Palkia rules over space Giratina rules over antimatter and Arceus created them all.
But the size seems very small for these godly pokemons according to DeX.
And in the anime movie Arceus was badly wounded by the asteroid he was badly wounded again in an ambush by his creation and almost died even though his awakening caused rifts in time space and shook the realms of Dialga and Palkia and Giratina and in the manga he was tied to many ropes and was being dragged by team rocket grunts.
And their are many other problems as well and other legendary pokemons face this problem.
Thank you so much for the video!
My thoughts before watching the video :
There is a guide that proves that the after life has higher dimensions . I can't find it but it's in my how strong is base vegeta video. The afterlife has heaven and hell. 2 higher dimensions. Along with the Mortal universe and the kaioshin realm which are 3D+.it makes one macrocosm a 5D structure. There are 12 of these macrocosms. And the zeno realm which is infinitely above the 12 macrocosms. Making it 6D. Contained in a timeline. One timeline is 6D. The room that holds the time rings appears to be endless (infinite timelines) trunks in the Manga says there are infinit timelines. So the dbs verse is a 7D+ structure. Don't forget that there is a large space between timelines. Making 8D+ structure.
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Lovely, that's more understandable and clear.
@@monitor-mindtheover-void6712 thanks
People forget or don't realize that Zeno didn't just wipe out the timeline (stated in manga), but he also wiped out a being (Zamasu) who was going to take over multiple, possibly infinite (wank) timelines. We see this feat in Super when Zamasu begins to appear into different timelines simutaneously as Goku and co. are still in Future Trunks' timeline. A timeline alone can contain anywhere between a finite or infinite amount of macrocosms. In Super's case it's 12-18, but it could have easily been infinite and Zeno would have still wiped it out since he is skipping that step and simply deleting the entire timeline. Zeno's feat at the very least is multiversal if you want to lowball. He destroys a being that would have taken over at the very least multiple timelines which inhabit multiple macrocosms.
@@notsafeforwindows Yeah that's right. People actually think astral/abstract/infinite Zamasu is only universal + while he clearly shows a 7D feat.
@@jackour8167 people do that out of ignorance, they can't accept that db characters are so above their verse and characters.
I'm glad you've finally come around!
So Goku, beerus, and Vegeta are Multiverse in power.
Cool, I would love to seem Goku, beerus, and Vegeta vs saint seiya universe.
How far they can go.
Cool video man keep up the good work.
Bruh Bro you do know even base vegeta is 5D right?
They'd likely rank above most Gold Saints, but they'd still get crushed by the Gods and the people who scale to the Gods because of their 5D nature. Don't even get me started on Chronos, dude is at least 6D.
@@balazsdocs8897 Xeno Goku stomps all at once since you know he is 6D base form and 7D with ssj4 and possibly 8D with the God ki but he cant really control it
@@darius2544 No no no no no... Xeno Goku does stomp most of the verse, but in terms of dimensional tiering, he's only comparable to Chronos. There's nothing suggesting that SSJ4 makes him infinitely superior to his base form, and neither is there any for God ki. He's 6D at best, and to go even further beyond, no one in DB history is even 7D.
The only DB character that I can see being 7D is Tori-Bot.
That's also ignoring the fact that Chronos practically lacks a true physical form anyways, so it's practically gonna be nigh-impossible for Xeno Goku to touch him, let alone hurt him or god forbid kill him.
Wow this is so incredibly convoluted
Hey Chuck, I watched the video and I loved it👍 but in the video you said weren't entirely sure about the size of heaven so I just wanted to let you know that in Dbz KAKAROT King Yemma said that once those pass away in other planets like planet Vegeta, they all go to Heaven, the one that we all know of from the show or manga or whatever. So there's actually one Heaven per universe Hopefully that helps you with the multiverse of dragon ball
Awesome video Chuck
Hey chuck, I’m a marvel fan tbh, could we get a video on guys like the thing, wolverine, blue marvel, Namor, etc? I love all you’re marvel videos you’re the only one who does videos on marvel characters . You gotta gift for scaling
Thanks! I will def do some Marvel stuff soon
Chuck Thank you bro it’d mean a lot n take it easy!!!
Chuck Hey chuck, would you also say the hulks travel (on foot) speed is the same as Thor’s since they scale to eachother?
Another amazing vid chuck!!!!!
Banning zamasu from being alive🤣
I'd love to see you explain the Dragon Ball Heroes cosmology
Could you make a visualisation of the infinite timelines & universes because i cant visualise in my head which causes me to not understand the video (it is similar to the Hunter x Hunter hatsu ability of the 4th Prince in the Prince elimination arc, the explanation given by tserriednich hui guo rou itself was hard to follow but when they visualised it with the user of "timedisplacement arrows" it was much easier to comprehend his ability)
I see Hunter X Hunter I like
@@matthewhernandez8342 8 months late but same
"el grande padre"
I see your a man of culture as well
Hey Chuck I love your videos and the videos you did with SethTheProgrammer a couple years back I'm sure you get that a lot so sorry if that's annoying, but I have been curious, are you and Seth still friends and/or going to make videos together again, I haven't seen you guys interact much only possibly on Twitter rarely. Perhaps I'm wrong? I'm sorry if so, anyway I really enjoyed this video I'm glad your still doing Dragonball proper. :)
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So that's where Spongebobs blue jellyfish friend went, they grow up so fast😂
Heaven which is described as infinite hold planets that are infinite in nature.
Aye mr chuck is back 😎😎😎😎😎😎
If the dragon ball multiverse is this big how is goku's attack potency only low multiversal 🗿
Low-mid Multiversal can be thousands-finite amount of universes.
@@Chuck ight cool
Another way of putting it is infinity is a conceptual/archetypal number
Some fools say it's not a number but it's just not a consistent number and sometimes more of an equation
Ex: (10)^(10)^(10)^(10) or 10^87 and many others possibilities
Also about time, time is connected to dimensions a 4D realm has a 4D time stream a 5D realm has a 5D timestream a 3D realm has a 3D timestream (etc)
Outerversal realms have outerversal timestreams
the dragon ball verse is absolutely ridiculous in size and scope and i feel as if akira toriyama doesnt even realise that since we have ssg goku threatening a multi universal space and then the we see a ridiculous amount of characters scaling above that in DBS quite wacky tbh
I DB dragon ball cosmology all joined up together it would all become bigger than a mega verse ( consists of sets of infinite multiverses) and there are already conceptual beings in dragon ball heroes, super( zamasu) and we could in due time see a outerversal dimension in dragon ball super the closet dimension to that is beats world
@@dennisquiah7 is it bigger then Marvel or DC?
@@TKing-ql8vn yes its more bigger because in dc or marvel they're using scientific multiverse like the real theory in real life but in dragonball its so huge
@@Lewis0oI would say that the DC and marvel cosmology are still bigger but by a little bit more, even with all the db universes combined Into one
17:16 on a side note a lot of people like to say Goku nearly destroying the universe 7 macrocosm is an outlier feat but i actually don't think that's the case because most outlier feats in Dragon Ball have usually been the results of powering up or through special properties/ hax but Goku was doing it with his fists alone which means it scales to his physical strength and it's highly likely that still wasn't even his full power given he couldn't control his god ki at the time and so his power fluctuated out of his control. So while Goku in BOG scales to 3D you very well could make the argument that he's already 4D from the start of super and he upscales thousands to millions of times stronger than that feat alone as the series progresses which would easily land him into the realms of 5 to 6D.
Man Dragon Ball has had plenty of great soundtracks, why not to use its own franchise's themes instead of Death Note's or any other's?
If new universes are added, how does the sum of 13 explanation work?
6+7 are complimentary, but if there is 14+, nothing makes sense
What makes you say the time nest is in U7 exclusively? I don’t recall ever seeing that. I always thought it was a place between timelines and universes, hence the infinite amount of characters possible. Trunks was just summoned first because he messed with time.
Or my theory that it’s the super trunks who’s time displaced... but he’s too old...but maybe snagged up younger before he’s time displaced. Idk still working on that lol
Lil B definitely created the Dragon Ball cosmos
If this isn't proof that DBS characters are well above universe+, I'm not sure what is.
Since the start of super
@@av8r195 you do know that the afterlife is also a time/space that is separate from the mortal universe?
@@av8r195 the whole of universe 7 is a low multiversal sized structure.
@King Zee and both Goku and Beerus were going to do just that. Destroy not one, but 2 and possibly 3 universe sized time space continuuae. The third being the Kaioshin realm. Arguing that it’s a separate time/space is shaky because other than the fact that it's a separate space that exists outside of not only the living universe, but the macrocosm as a whole is the only argument(I know of) that can be made regarding this.
King Zee For one, within universe 7, the afterlife as a whole is a realm separate from the living universe and was stated by Goku to have time that flowed differently than earth’s. The fact that it’s a separate space from the living universe that is at least universal in size already shows that it’s a different time/space. But now there’s the fact that time there actually flows differently than that of the living universe. The present wasn’t affected by Zeno erasing Infinite Zamasu probably because it look place within a separate timeline from the present. See, time travel works weirdly in DB; in the case of Trunks’ timeline we’re not exactly traveling to the future of the timeline we’re familiar with, but rather the future of an alternate DB timeline. That’s why the changes made to the ‘past’ in the Android arc didn’t change Trunks’ future. And that’s also why Zeno erasing Infinite Zamasu and Trunks’ timeline didn’t erase our ‘present’. Therefore, it’s not all ‘1 timeline’.
imo the Dragon Ball Xenoverse rangers work on making sure alternate timelines don't get created. *fixing trunk's mistakes*
So if these Universes are infinite in size according to the cosmology of DB Multiverse, can Zeno fight Alien X one on one now without getting obliterated? Lol. Just kidding, either way, nice video Chuck
I don't know but I want to see the death battle
Great vid chuck! Can you do a vid on how powerful Mechikabura is from dragon ball heroes I heard he was the strongest heroes character
He's pretty damn powerful, but he's far from being the strongest Heroes character because the writers said that Beerus could kill Mechikabura if he wanted to (Of course I'm referring to the Beerus from the DB Heroes continuity). On top of that, there are implications of Hearts being more powerful than him, and Beerus didn't really see him as a threat.
That being said, he is 6D like everyone else, because even his old state is far above Demigra, who was threatening to destroy not just the entire DBH Multiverse (Which includes the 5D Crack of Time), but also Beat's World (Which treats the multiverse + the Crack of Time as completely fictional) *I N B A S E .* I've also heard he has a lot of cool hax abilities as well.
@@balazsdocs8897 The writers never said that beerus > mechikabura in fact it was heavenly implied that mechikabura > all the GoD’s
Banning zamasu from being alive 😂😂😂😂😂
You are the best. very well done
Cloud there be More higher dimensions in the dragon ball multiverses?
Well there's the spacial dimensions Gogeta and Broly smashed through in the movie.
@@omnijonn277 yeah i think it call super dimension in japanese name is cho jigen
Chuck is getting his tourist agency phase on
Who's here after Chuck's recent evidence of the macrocosm apparently being 5D on Twitter? I still have to call sus on that one, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.
This takes universal to a different level
Haha your character is only universal
*the universe*
@@Anomalous1879 lol bro destroying db universe =infinite normal fictional universe
Mobile fence still won't admit Goku is powerful
Wait wait wait, you forgot to mention one candidate for the creator of db cosmos, any guess???
By the way, Farmer with the shogun one shots him or her anyway, so no issues.
Great video boiiii
Chuck, do you think Goku can beat Superman?
Depends which version, but overall, no.
@@Chuck Thanks for the reply, will you do a video on how strong Superman is? I think you would do a good job.
Sorry for late reply. Yes, I'm reading the post-crisis run.
@@SpacemanOutbound he's S T R O n g E
Funfact: There are more than 12 universe. And no not 18.
The 12 universes are all remain the number 13 so U1 and U13 are connected, U2 and U11, U3 and U10 and so going on.
That means there are universes who are not included in this system.
Which makes sense since Space even leaves the universe.
*space leaves universe* lmao you never read dbs manga Moro arc
@@johnnywantyoudead5113 Space leaves universe 👈 See the cosmos map
@@diabolicamires it seems you use bad translate
My friend
Wow, Goku black realistically would wear a freaking mask, so not to catch germs from filthy mortals, lmao!
In the Dragon ball legends game, it's stated that Base Goku Black transcends time meaning he's at least 4d+
Remember when kid buu was going to destroy the grand kai planet (a multi galactic sized planet) so that’s a huge feat
Kid Buu is Multi-Galaxy level at best and probably universal+ as Goku states the universe will go “poof” in some translations.
Does that mean that in Superman vs Goku, Goku would win???
God not this again
Depends on the version of superman tbh
@@Sqautter Go on a channel called real jake if you want to find moustache guy
superman violates
20:07 i think what Toriyama really means by this is that the Demon Realm is only small compared to the other dimensions that reside in universe 7. The realm itself can still be scaled to infinite in size with the other realms simply having a higher level of infinity