Making Wooden Threads - Homemade Tap and Screw Box
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Ever since making a tap and die a couple of years ago to make 1" threads I've always wanted to make bigger threads. I made the die for that one from a nut with the cutting edges filed into it, with this new one I make a screw box with a homemade cutter. The nut for the scaffold screw is a very sloppy fit so that wouldn't work as a die because the screw that would be made with it would end up too thick and wouldn't fit the nut made from the tap.
Recently when I made my leg vice I used a scaffold levelling screw which I couldn't find locally so I had to order one online, they were cheap at $16 but the shipping was nearly $25 alone, so I ordered two and that came to $60 all up. I thought the other one would come in handy for another project. Then I thought if I could make a wooden thread from that I could use them on all sorts of projects. In the past I've made barstools with an adjustable height seat (photos on Instagram). They would be good for vices too and my wife has put in an order for a bunch of them for the kids to play with.
I don't go into too much detail with the annealing, hardening and tempering but there is plenty of info on the subject that can be found with a search. I'm no expert but I've done this process around half a dozen times and it's always worked out well even though I'm probably not doing things to their full potential.
A screw box is normally used by clamping the dowel and turning the box on it but I liked using it the other way around - either way works. :)
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I'm glad I found this channel. I haven't worked with wood in decades but this guy's ingenuity and straightforward thinking makes me consider getting back into it. Also, the lack of some over the top intro with terrible theme music makes me SUPER happy. He just gets right into the task at hand. I applaud you, sir!
I really enjoyed the video. No annoying music, no talking heads. I loved when you showed trying to retrieve the blade from the oil. I needed a laugh. Many blessing!
Thanks Greg! :)
John Heisz was trying to make something like that in the course of a few years and a dozen videos, and you nailed it on the first try. Impressive.
Thank you Konstantin! John is still one of my very favourite youtubers though. :)
Konstantin Mednikov: as said in the US keep it simple!
Pask Makes magnet an a stick would have been handy for the oil retrieval,great video.
D twist Rewind that wouldn't work because he removed it's magnetic properties
It would work, the piece of steel just lost it's magnetic properties cause it's heated above it's "curie point". It will resume being attracted to magnets as soon as it cools down.
I know this is 7yrs old but I watched it through and laughed so much when you dropped that piece in the oil and struggled to get it out....totally relatable. Thanks for the great video.
It was until the very last moment I figured out how these things will work together. Whenever I see you upload something new, I stop from what I'm doing and start watching, you have an incredible imagination and technical skills. Please keep your good work.
I have been a construction worker for 35 years. I am a jack of all trades's master of cosmetic finishes. I am a fair finish carpenter. What you are doing is art. I certainly gather fantastic ideas from watching your videos. Thanks and take care. 👍🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Thank you very much! :)
I remember hearing someone say that the chip-out becomes much less, regardless of the wood being used, if it is soaked in oil for a day or two prior to cutting the threads.
Ingenious. It just shows ‘Where there’s a will, there’s away’. Loved how you condensed this complex process to under 10 mins. Must have a go.
That’s so cool. The “die” worked so much better than I thought it would have. Great job
Good to see someone who subscribes to the idea that not everything has to be perfect in order for it to function. I liked your video & your attitude.
I am a retired machinist. This was a fascinating video. Great work, Bro!
I'm not sure which I like more, the fact that you did a superb job and it works well or the high speed footage. Well done!!
7:37 What the heck! I've seen a few of your videos, and even I didn't expect it to work that well! Good job :) your definitely one of my favourite woodworking youtubers. No messing about, no huge spiel at the start of every video, just you trying to make something for the hell of it and not even knowing how well it's even going to turn out :)
You sir represent what every single wood working enthusiast should want to strive to achieve. We simply forget about what men and women used to make with what they had on hand, instead of buying tool after tool to achieve what could be done with time, imagination, and of course, desire. Thank you for these videos
I can't tell how much I appreciate this. It's just what I was searching for!
What your project that needs something like this?
@@fakecubed Restoration of a spinning wheel and other supplies for fibre processing. And build tools to clamp on a table.
Can I say, I don’t need one, and I haven’t got the skills, or tools, to make one, however I love watching you use your skills. Brilliant!
I admire your talent. Thank you for taking the time to make and publish the video.
No worries Tom! :)
I love your craftsmanship, as well as the trueness of your videos.
The retrieving of the cutting tip, out of the oil, brought back childhood memories, that gave me a chuckle.
One of the games that my Mom would set up for us at birthday parties, was dropping a few nickles in a jar of water, and giving us chopsticks, to try and get them out. You wouldn't that that it would be too hard to do; and everyone thought this, right up until she'd set the egg timer to three minutes, then...everything changes 😯
Best "Not an apple" drawing I've seen all day. Also glad to see some Mighty Boosh merch on an already great channel.
I thought I saw all your videos and instead every now and then one comes out, as always brilliant. "This is not an apple" then shows that you are not only of a unique sympathy, but also subtle and cultured. Thanks for the curiosity and skill you share. Cesidio
When I finally get another shop space, I'm going to make this to cut my bench vise screw. Along with a few other of your ideas.
I wouldn't be able to desine and build such jigs in a million years. And you make it look so easy. Love ur show mate. Your great!
Very good and inspiring video. Soaking the wood in oil for a week before tapping will make it much stronger.
Thanks! I do soak the dowel blanks now in boiled linseed oil. I only soak overnight but that works well! 😊
Thanks for sharing this brilliant method. Guys like you make this place a better world.
Мужик! Какой же ты классный и крутой!!! Очень нравятся все твои видео!!! Очень здорово!!!)))
Dear Neil, magnificent example of ingenuity at work. I like the fact that you produce a long tap to start the process, rather than the shop bought models which only have a few threads on them. One thing you may consider is making a bottoming tap to match the taper. That way you can start a hole that ends with the taper cutter and finish to depth with the bottom cutter. Then you can sink your thread all the way to the bottom.
What is also an interesting concept is to get a starting thread that is highly suitable for things like vices - an Acme thread. I have seen some at my antiques store for $20.00 and would make an excellent set of taps - taper, intermediate and bottomer. Acme threads have a better profile and quicker movement than whatever thread was used on this demonstration.
I have been playing around with making dowels and wooden threads using various approaches. I used a shop bought thread cutter kit. I soaked my wood {Victorian ash} for three days beforehand and the threads went surprisingly easily. Unfortunately, the threads were brittle and touching the tops broke them off. I then tried some ironbark which was recently milled and quite moist. I didn’t soak this in oil but it cut like butter and the threads are strong without breaking. I guess what one has to do is to experiment with a few combinations of technique to get the ideal end result. Happy turning!
This is one of the most epic things I've ever seen.
Its good that he guides us in the process on thought development not just "strutting your stuff".
I was repairing an old and big threaded rod earlier today and i privately thought to myself "i wonder how they make these" now this video popped up on my feed and i am convinced that google has some sort of transmitter in my head
Amazing job. The last vid of this sort showed a thread cutting kit, which I'm not interested in paying for. You MADE the cutter. Wow! Thank you for showing us how.
I saw someone soaking the wood in oil before threading it, to eliminate chip outs.
What a great toolset you built there!! Totally awesome!!
“Hope it’s useful for somebody” Your videos are wonderful , interesting and practical . There’s so much to learn from them . Thanks and keep the good work up !
THATS AMAZING
I never thought you could make that sort of things out of wood, absolutely brilliant
Absolutely awesome! I don't have the skills to do things like this, nor the woodshop, but I admire the heck out of it and watching it was a pleasure.
Thanks very much Katrina! :)
A short while ago I was at a tool store and saw the scaffold leveling screws and thought "these could serve another purpose." Wow, just wow - always inspired by your projects!
That is amazing. To buy those it would cost an absolute fortune. A work of art.
I've learned a ton only in 7 mins. Thanks for sharing your techniques.
best chippy i worked with was a four bells. I like how you show the mistakes rather than editing.... thanks. really helpful bro.
With those 2 gizmos you can build wooden bench vises that sell commercially for hundreds of dollars.
Jimmy Buckley please
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I love your quick and dirty approach that gets the job done. I've made a number of taps and dies myself, but much smaller ones, also quick and dirty and useable.
cheers from overcast Vienna, Scott
carpenter and machinist all in one; genius, brilliant. Thank you for sharing
very surprising that cutting the dowel worked that well
nut is clear - the "tap" cuts in many passes with increasing depth while the single cutter for the dowel has to do the full depth in one pass
amazing
that was awesome. one of my favorite things is to make recognizable every day things that are usually metal like a nut and bolt. And make them from wood. great build brother
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it. :)
Hornbeam is supposed to be hard and dense and was traditionally used for cogs, etc. There are some other woods around the world that were used in their respective locations to make cogs, hold a thread, etc because of their properties.
6 years on from first watching this video I now need to use this information. Thanks fella
Isn't it amazing what you can do without power tools. This, I can attempt to do.
Please make more of your lovely creations without power tools
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You certainly could do this job without power tools. He used plenty of power tools though.
Lathe, drill press, disk sander.
@@VestigialHead seeing the mother of all power tools lathe, I was wondering if it'd be easier to cut the bolt thread with a single point tool.
Excellent video. Human ingenuity is boundless.
No idea if it's useful, but it was bloody good fun to watch, not forgetting to mention, super interesting.
it's really usefull, epecialy when making stools because you can make the adjustable
Brilliant - love the trial and error approach as it highlights some of the problems encountered (and how to sort them)
To avoid chipout when cutting the thread, soak the dowel in oil for a week b4 cutting.
Hand made tools r much more satisfying to work with than those bought off the shelf. 👍👍👍
Beautiful work! Loved the annotations and the bit of humour too with the oil drops...
Thank you - glad you liked it Donald! :) It's good to hear feedback - the annotations take me hours and I do question whether it's a good use of my time.
A masterpiece. Beautiful guy I have no world to say how I appriciated your video. Bravissimo, Micky from Italy
I don't say this very often. That is one heck of a nice piece of work. Great job and my hat is off to you.
Just terrific! Being able to tap screws and nuts like that, you can make all kinds of very functional things for the shop, that's really great!
Love it. Was thinking you could make into self-contained system where you can include somewhere to store the tap on the box and even the dowel template could be incorporated into one of the parts as well.
Thanks Carl! Maybe I should make a box for them. :)
Good idea! But I think it has to include wooden screw joinery somewhere. :P
OMG thank you SO MUCH for showing your screw-ups. I relate to them SO much, and they make me feel SO much better about everything I do!!! 😁😁👍👍
Man I absolutely loved this video , very informative and I love that you sped up the video but showed every detail , I just recently got a lathe and I’ll be trying out some projects soon
I loved this video. I am working on an antique chest of drawers that had the feet on its turned legs cut off, I assume to make it sit level. I want to make replacements that I can thread into the bottom, so that they can be removed or replaced to preserve antique value. Even though I will research the design as much as I can, it is always possible that sometime in the future, I will find that the feet that I turn for it doesn't match the period properly. It will also make it clear that I am not attempting to fool anyone that a repair has been done.
This is super impressive and you get extra points for the Mighty Boosh tee....
Great job! Thanks for sharing this!
I have got 2 Tips on top of that:
- usage: ~3h in advance before you cut the bolt and the hole, put on some line oil varnish on it, so it cuts better without splitting out
- you can built the cutter too with a handle (little thinner), so it is easier to turn it around the fixed bolt, instead of turning the bolt through fixed cutter.
Thank you! Since making the video I've started soaking the blanks in oil overnight before cutting the threads. I also made a handle that quickly clamps to the bolt to make it easier to turn! :)
Sounds like an update-video to me ;)
That was fun to watch and also very informative. Thanks for sharing your talents with all of us!!!
The Mighty Boosh shirt pushed this video from an A+ to an A++.
Awesome!
Thank you! :)
Good stuff, thanks Neil. KIngs Fine Woodworking had a good idea to reduce the tear out when cutting threads. He saturated the timber in "mineral oil" the threads cut beautifully. Cheers, David
That's a great build. I've added it to my tool build list on my channel. Brilliant! Thanks for sharing.
No worries Thomas! :)
Super minds, super masters. I appreciate it very much. Greetings from Turkey.
Perfect job man. It's good to see videos like yours at the net. Congrats. Keep up the good job.
Greetings from Greece.
"This is not an apple." That was wonderful. You have great work dude, and inspire me to try some wood working
I have no idea what I watched, or why I watched it, but it was great
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
i am a Toolmaker and your Idea to make a Screwdriver for Wood is a very good Work i'm excited!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry about my english
That was just awesome. I'll definitely be trying that.
This is genius! I would have never thought of this on my own! Not that I plan on making it, but it goes to show how creative a person can get.
Perfectly done. Thanks for your time and sharing the video.
No worries! :)
FINALLY a Nut and Bolt that won't rust!! Nice Job Cheers!
Man who catches metal with chopsticks, can accomplish anything.
Haha! :)
Brilliant! One of the best woodworking - maker channels on TH-cam!
😲😲😲very cool pask!!!👊👊👊every time you upload I learn something new! I greatly appreciate you sharing your knowledge 😊😊💚🍀
No worries mate! :)
:) cheers!
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Thanks Neal, I"ve learned for others that if you soak that dowel in mineral oil or blo for about a week it will cut much easier and pretty well eliminate chip out. Thanks for working this out. I need a wooden thread for a face vise and $200 for one is a bit much.... going to give it a go
why must i find this the day before i finished my wooden bench vice and struggled a lot with the threads...
Very good work. The method as important as the result.
3:50 That was painfully relatable.
Jokes aside, this is very clever - well done!
You need to put a second cutter on the die to cut at half the thread depth to cut first that will help with the chip out .
Good job making it , worked good .
this is so cool
Thanks Izzy! Glad you think so mate! :)
Thats one one the best videos on that subject ive seen. Well done sir!
Nice job on the tap and die similar ones i saw for sale from woodworking supply stores were kid of pricey imo I dont see much of a advantage of those ompared to yours other than the build time needed ? Since the outcomes re pretty much the same thing
doesn't take that log to build, if you take the time/cost ratio it's much bette to make one
Hi Neil, you make difficult things look so easy. Sheer brilliance
Was laughing my arse off watching you fish that cutter! Great video!
WOW. I am so impressed. I am impressed by how much work goes into everything you create. I tip my had to you.
Greetings from Germany
Brilliant project, much more successful than my recent thread cutting video. Cheers, Jim
Thank you Jim - I'll try and check your video out if I get chance. :)
Great project!
Also very fun to see how your presentation has changed during the last five years.
I liked the "oops" sequence. The old fashioned way of doing things with passion.
Another great video. I love how you show how to make tools a lot of folks can't afford, so we too can have a great workshop. Thanks!
Респект тебе, человек из зарубежья. 👍
You are a real engineer. Good job. 👍
absolutely what i was looking for, thank you. I would like to ask you, if its working only with softwood, or is it possible to use hardwood as well?
No worries! The threads I made here are with hardwood - although camphor laurel isn't the hardest of hardwoods. I reckon it will work better on hardwoods than softwoods, there is more chance of tear out with softwood. :)
Very cool! Against the chipping I saw a video yesterday that soaked the wood in oil for 24 hours. Maybe that'll help?
He ended up doing that when he made his bar stools th-cam.com/video/a5vZv6BaT2s/w-d-xo.html
@@Genubath1 nice!
Wow That was Brilliant..Thank you for sharing...shared.
Thank you very much Terry! :)
Your very Welcome...... :)
GREAT VIdeo!! Educational, well explained, well editted, amazing craftsmanship. Thank you for sharing
I feel like I’m watching Forged in Fire. lol Thank you for sharing.
Excellent video! I'm in need of making a very large (6" diameter) nut and bolt for a community cider press we're building and this video was super helpful.
"this is not an apple" lol :D Fantastic job!!! I have to say you have great lighting in your shop too :) all natural?
Thanks Cactus! The lighting is actually pretty poor. I have to set up lights for every shot - it's a bind but as a photographer I wouldn't be happy with the results from the natural light available. :)
Pask Makes well then I must congratulate you because the results are fantastic :) great job!!
Thanks! :)
Pask Makes amazing you worked with complete tools that you can work with and this wooden bolts really good work 👍
Cactus! workshop 8
That's wonderful! Usually these sets cost quite a bit of money . Thanks for sharing