My blood is boiling listening to this and thinking how this broad was so fake and what her intentions are! Just like the doctor he’s talking about! Poor guys couldn’t trust anyone!!!
You know what I mean 🙂 Ok lyle I understand And he is right about that judge that guy was total biased And he didn’t stop bragging about how he felt about Erik's script 🤣🤣🤣
in these tapes, Lyle doesn't say that he's lying. He's saying that he is a nice guy and that people corroborated this. he says he's convincing because he's believable, not because he's lying! so many other people were lying all around him, including this person recording him! SMH second trial was a miscarriage of justice. none of the abuse could be included and the jury was instructed to rule for murder or release. manslaughter wasn't even one of the choices, even though it should have been. judge needed a win after OJ. shameful!
i mean he did admit he wanted to make something up to further prove his point on the stand (he suggested paying someone to lie for him about a meeting with oziel) i think it's important to recognize those things as well because the boys were not perfect, they nade mistakes, but that doesn't make them less victims or sociopaths! Lyle wanted to make this up because he thought he wouldn't be believed otherwise and it sucks he thought that way and also making things up ended up harming him and his image
I can smell the comments people saying they are this and they are that with other tapes you share and there was nothing on those i can tell this one gonna be their favorite lol Also thabk you for sharing these❤
OZIEL debe pagar por todo el daño que ha causado...... Un Ente Terrible...... En cambio LYLE Y ERIK MENÉNDEZ YA PAGARON DEMASIADO, DEBEN LIBERARLOS, Por eso y muchas cosas más.....
So basically he admits he is going to fabricate a complete story and that he is going to get other people to lie to corroborate his lie to try and discredit Oziel?
Trying to figure out a way to proof Dr Oziel was lying and making things up. Which was pretty clear by the tape and the experts avaluating the "therapy session".
He is saying he would try to get another person to corroborate his lie to discredit Oziel i mean he said that oziel did blackmail him but he wanted to make up another situation with a witness that would add up to this story so that he would be believed more (he ended up not telling this lie on the stand nor paying anyone to lie for him)
Lyle was young and cocky. I'm glad he didn't get a chance to lie. It would have hurt his cause. I know that he was scared because of Oziel but it was that same type of fear/self defense which got them into this situation in the first place. But these tapes only show Lyle and Eric's innocence. So, he plotted to lie. Who has never done that? He did it out of fear. But he is not a brutal murderer, he is not hungry for money, he was terrified for his and his brother's life. These two should NOT be in jail.
There's more. I remember him telling about how the prosecutors kept bringing in witnesses on their behalf, that kept ending up being perfect witnesses for the defense and him finding it very amusing, wich it in fact was.
She knew him for years and did a lot for him, like buy him the things he needed (he and his family paid for the stuff) and they talked a lot on the phone. She was 50 and in love with him and he used her friendship and then she wrote a book using his letters.
@@missthunderstormable Yeah, he was just trying to convince the jury that Oziel had a motive to lie. He literally says that Oziel is lying about a bunch of shit, but he’s worried about the jury possibly believing Oziel considering he’s a psychologist who tend to be respected by people and if the jury didn’t think Oziel had a motive to lie, they might believe what he’s saying. Note Lyle didn’t end up making up any story because they impeached the fuck out of him. Lyle knew everything Oziel was saying was a lie, but he wasn’t sure the jury would feel the same way. Context matters.
America's justice system messed up the whole case cos they threatened them with execution... we'll never know what was fully the truth or what was lies... when two young men's life was on the line.
Lyle’s hatred of Oziel gives me life. That guy was a grade A fucking sleazeball.
I agree on that!
Totally
So messed up how this lady did him dirty with these recordings and the book
She was an old lady btw, how can you do that to a 20 something guy
Yea, it's way worse than shotgunning your parents. It's so bad what she did
I do believe that Lyle didn"t know that that woman was recorded to his sound of his voice. she tried to frame him not knowing about it.
In spite what they wrnt through lyle is funny.i like the way he talks.
so do i!
so do i.
He is very intresting and intelligent
@@noashohat8380 yes he is!😀
i mean it actully shows he was telling the truth about oziel lying on the stand
Norma and Dr.oziel are the same garbage.sorry Lyle she did that to you.what an awful women.the judge is also like these two.
My blood is boiling listening to this and thinking how this broad was so fake and what her intentions are! Just like the doctor he’s talking about! Poor guys couldn’t trust anyone!!!
@@amjadxxx3225 Exactly! She knew what she was doing. She was just looking for a $tory!!
my blood boiling too, intentions are, she had the hots for him.😅
These boys had no one they could trust
i know that"s right!
tell me about it! what do you exspect? you can"t trust anybody on this planet.
I keep forgetting serial killers existed back when Lyle name dropped Jeffery Dahmer I was like "oh shit" 😂
I hear you on that!😀
erik's script lol
She is so fake, in my opinion.
Yeah, she really did him dirty and screwed him over. His privacy was not respected at all.
my too!
@@barbarabreunis7788 i know, tell me about it!😀
Sadly, he trusted her with a stream of consciousness and wanting to defend himself from people that misunderstood him
people like that, are bunch of assholes!🙂
15:50 Erik caught a stray 😭
so did Lyle!🤔
You know what I mean 🙂 Ok lyle I understand
And he is right about that judge that guy was total biased
And he didn’t stop bragging about how he felt about Erik's script 🤣🤣🤣
in these tapes, Lyle doesn't say that he's lying. He's saying that he is a nice guy and that people corroborated this. he says he's convincing because he's believable, not because he's lying! so many other people were lying all around him, including this person recording him! SMH
second trial was a miscarriage of justice. none of the abuse could be included and the jury was instructed to rule for murder or release. manslaughter wasn't even one of the choices, even though it should have been. judge needed a win after OJ. shameful!
tell me about it! Lyle is being take avanage of. he deseves better.😀
i mean he did admit he wanted to make something up to further prove his point on the stand (he suggested paying someone to lie for him about a meeting with oziel) i think it's important to recognize those things as well because the boys were not perfect, they nade mistakes, but that doesn't make them less victims or sociopaths! Lyle wanted to make this up because he thought he wouldn't be believed otherwise and it sucks he thought that way and also making things up ended up harming him and his image
I can smell the comments people saying they are this and they are that with other tapes you share and there was nothing on those i can tell this one gonna be their favorite lol
Also thabk you for sharing these❤
Many people have let these boys down.jesus will never let you down.never put your trust in people.
i support the brothers completely, but the way he says that lying isn't a problem for him at all bothers me to be honest
FREE THE MENENDEZ BROTHERS NOW‼️
OZIEL debe pagar por todo el daño que ha causado...... Un Ente Terrible...... En cambio LYLE Y ERIK MENÉNDEZ YA PAGARON DEMASIADO, DEBEN LIBERARLOS, Por eso y muchas cosas más.....
jeffry dahmer!
what a coincidence, he followed him in the same series
What? Dahmer was arrested in 91. Less than 2 years after the menendez brothers
@@A111mar Well Lyle knew about him apparently
So basically he admits he is going to fabricate a complete story and that he is going to get other people to lie to corroborate his lie to try and discredit Oziel?
Trying to figure out a way to proof Dr Oziel was lying and making things up. Which was pretty clear by the tape and the experts avaluating the "therapy session".
He is saying he would try to get another person to corroborate his lie to discredit Oziel
i mean he said that oziel did blackmail him but he wanted to make up another situation with a witness that would add up to this story so that he would be believed more (he ended up not telling this lie on the stand nor paying anyone to lie for him)
“I have to come up with something that is most believable”…
This women should be ashamed.norma.
I know i am!😁
I'm so sorry boys.things will change soon.
what do you mean your sorry? is it good or bad?
Lyle was young and cocky. I'm glad he didn't get a chance to lie. It would have hurt his cause. I know that he was scared because of Oziel but it was that same type of fear/self defense which got them into this situation in the first place.
But these tapes only show Lyle and Eric's innocence. So, he plotted to lie. Who has never done that? He did it out of fear. But he is not a brutal murderer, he is not hungry for money, he was terrified for his and his brother's life. These two should NOT be in jail.
How many tapes are there?
that"s a good damn quesion
This woman is a Tw_t!!
He's so Jersey that it makes me smile.
is this the full tape with norma and Lyle? or is there like other parts
There's more. I remember him telling about how the prosecutors kept bringing in witnesses on their behalf, that kept ending up being perfect witnesses for the defense and him finding it very amusing, wich it in fact was.
@@barbarabreunis7788This is already posted!
was Lyle in jail when he talked with Norma? was not afraid to be intercepted
G, i wonder too.
Is this the reqson he did not testified at second trial?
Many reasons actually
sounded like Lyle and Norma go way back!
She knew him for years and did a lot for him, like buy him the things he needed (he and his family paid for the stuff) and they talked a lot on the phone. She was 50 and in love with him and he used her friendship and then she wrote a book using his letters.
,@@barbarabreunis7788 oowwww, is that right? what do you exspect? the way he talks, no wonder she was in love with him. 😀
@mindypatterson8371 It's hard not to love him.
@@barbarabreunis7788 that"s for damn sure!
anybody knows what happened to this woman? is still alive? she never made any interrwies or documentaries
not sure about that!
How did Jill allow this?
Jose taught Lyle and Erik well ! Manipulated thinking
too bad,he was a mean nasty father too them.
Sneaks.
Lyle killed because he was scared ?
So basically he said he was going to invent a story on a stand…
@@missthunderstormable Yeah, he was just trying to convince the jury that Oziel had a motive to lie. He literally says that Oziel is lying about a bunch of shit, but he’s worried about the jury possibly believing Oziel considering he’s a psychologist who tend to be respected by people and if the jury didn’t think Oziel had a motive to lie, they might believe what he’s saying. Note Lyle didn’t end up making up any story because they impeached the fuck out of him. Lyle knew everything Oziel was saying was a lie, but he wasn’t sure the jury would feel the same way.
Context matters.
@@shannonoreilly4695💯💯
‘Eric’s script is better than this?’ 🤨
@@faa9999 Lyle means about the script Erik had written with his friend Craig. They had a dream to work professionally in screenwriting!
@ ok i really hope its that script cuz i thought it is the script for the ‘trial’ maybe
@faa9999 th-cam.com/video/tB5POEJ0gUY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2PqXW5_IeRpJy7IY
Pot calling the kettle black , daddy did you wrong Lyle
Did he know she was recording him?
He knew some of it, but I'm not sure he knew about all of it
No he did not
@@Cove999 where is all the information about this?
Dont free these guys , very sad …….they are mental beings
YOU ARE A MENTAL CASE!
i support the brothers completely, but the way he says that lying isn't a problem for him at all bothers me to be honest
i support the brothers completely, but the way he says that lying isn't a problem for him at all bothers me to be honest
i understand what he is saying
@@lleaha😂😂😂 of course it doesn't bother you, you believe him
America's justice system messed up the whole case cos they threatened them with execution... we'll never know what was fully the truth or what was lies... when two young men's life was on the line.
Tell him he was recording... What like you did Norma!
@@kahlospirit24 what?