A Short History of America by R. Crumb and Joni Mitchell
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- Music Video: "A Short History of America" cartoon poster by R. Crumb with music by Joni Mitchell, "The Big Yellow Taxi" ("They paved paradise to put up a parking lot!")
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I'm 75, and this is exactly how the world looks to me. I've seen so many roads, buildings and street signs come and go. Everything is nostalgic to me.
Same for me @ 74
I will hit 75 in a couple of months. Feel the same way.
Turning 70 this year. I'm seeing and remembering the changes too!
Ah yes. I'm 77. 20 years ago I visited Red Brae Terrace, Camelon, Falkirk, in Scotland- where I lived when I was 4, till 1950. The whole tenement block had vanished; so had the railway bridge and the iron foundry behind the block... even the road layout was different, and called something else. Eheu! fugaces labuntur anni...
Turning 50 in 4 months, and yes, even at my age it's already the same.
I need to listen to more Joni Mitchell
...Careful you dont get all twisted up in it
Oh yes you do. Also try, Iris DeMent!
I envy you hearing Joni’s marvellous recordings for the first time. Sublime.
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That hit me the same way.
I love the way he nailed the changes. Even the telegraph, phone and power lines are accurate. The trolleys, fins on cars, everything.
yeah street lamps also - fu#kn perfect
Yes I noticed the huge tail lights and fins on the '59 Chevy~!!!!
Crumb is way deep. My favorite illustrator since the 1960s. Im 74 now still greatly enjoying. Thanks R.C.
When 1 worships 0, nothing is sacred. Literally. That's one bit of a byte of a binary joke.
Based on a Gahan Wilson cartoon, circa 1976, in Playboy. As Joni sang, "They paved paradise, and put up a parking lot."
75, MAD and ZAP magazines saved my life. We had the best soundtrack, visuals and attitude.
I love to hear these names, Wilson was deep, I like Larsons Far Side for the same reasons.
I look at R. Crumb's early work and appreciate it even more these days
I'm so glad I came from that much-maligned generation. We had a good understanding of the military industrial complex and the US empire, great songs and lots of SOUL. Plus, we danced our little butts off!
the thing that sometimes gets lost about crumb, in the depths of the general weirdness and such, is that he has huge talent as a pure illustrator- the way the idea is presented.
I never forgot how he drew a dish rack!! Pure genius
@@robertafierro5592thx. But reference or link please
They took all the trees and put 'em in a tree museum... And they charged the people a dollar and a half just to see 'em."
@@goglowdaddy1686except now it would be $25 just to see 'em.
@@christajennings3828 Right, Christa. Then, there would be security, plexiglass, and a ten minute view time, and of course, no beverages allowed,
bottled water on sale-Seven dollars.
I like how one panel depicts the Depression, with the scene almost devoid of people and businesses boarded up, etc. A lesser artist wouldn’t remember or bother. Part of Crumb’s genius is his attention to detail.
Excellent catch on your part. Thanks for pointing that out. Embarrassed that I missed it on the first viewing.
Exactly
So you're saying they would just forget about one of the most formative events of the period that's conveniently easy to convey graphically? Nah, you just felt special for noticing..
@@Fenderak
Hey, you were that kid in class who never contributed to the lesson because "the answer is obvious" - and who later became the most disliked teacher because "the kids ask stupid questions".
People point out observations to each other to connect, Grumpy!
You are like the newbie that says I like the way the artist used dark colors to contrast the light. Yeah, read that in DUH! magazine. You might want to view the documentary Crumb before you chirp, grasshopper.
Robert Crumb and Gilbert Shelton are the quintessential comic artists of the 1970s. I was glad to discover that they are both still alive. We need more artists like them, honest, funny and supremely talented.
To those two I’d add Bill Griffith (sp?)…
Skip Williamson...@@anthonysacco4718
The last panel, has a note on the bottom right "What's next ?" He should draw a follow-up to the series showing real estate signs with home prices of $1.2 mil. in "blue collar" neighborhoods and the streets lined with homeless tents and trash, a reflection of what things are like today.
In 1988, Crumb created another version, adding an epilogue consisting of three additional panels of three alternate futures.
@DanielDod yep, you can find it as the back cover of one of the Whole Earth magazines. Don't recall which issue.
I always think of this series when listening to "Telegraph Road" by Dire Straits.
@@elebenty5709 A fantastic song on a great album!
He did!
Trump will fix it!
Why did this take me 14 years to see. Beautiful.
Same here. I remember both Joni M. and R. Crumb from the 60's
It was so good to see Robert crumbs work again! Not exactly the Robert crumb of my youth, but still an amazingly perceptive illustrator! Long live the independence of artists!
I remember that series from long ago. 1960's? 70's?
Keep on truckin'! 😉
@@brucestaples4510That's hilarious. I love how Crumb hates something that he created.
I don't know how the Crumb piece was originally published, but I have it as a poster with all the panels, which I turned into a slide and use to show to my classes when talking about line. As a human being I get a little horrified by Crumb's accurate depiction of a piece of land transforming from wilderness to modern urbanity, but as an artist I have always appreciated his attention to detail and the way he uses line to break up a space. He sees and shows what we all try to forget.
The Whole Earth Catalog commissioned it for it's back cover in '75 (guessing on year).
I’m 68 and that sums it up
Grew up in Sydney when there were 1 million...now there is 5 million
I don’t recognise it
I moved to a little quiet village bordering a forest 24 years ago
Mainly a few old folks...but now it’s mainly rich folks with big boats and big cars
i feel your pain bro
I highly recommend R. Crumbs Illustrated book of Genesis. What an amazing artist.
I am 71 years old I saw R Crumbs work in the Village in NYC when I was a teenager I was always a big fan no one did Comics like him thanks
Wow! Two of my favorite humans in the same video! I have multiple volumes of Robert Crumb's work at on my bookshelf, and Joni - what a gift to us all.
I second that emotion~!!! (borrowed from Smokey)
My heart broke when they cut down that big tree...
It was an eyesore.
@@mtamech535 It was a drawing.
@@kennycube5126 Fnking eyesore.
@@mtamech535 Don't look at it and your frustrations will dissolve away 👍
@@kennycube5126 thank you, I'm healed.
Robert Crumb is probably the USA's greatest illustrator. His work has been more representative of American culture than any other. Keep On Truck'in
Joni Mitchell is great too, such a beautiful voice and so much writing talent.
Keep on truckin’!
She is Canadian, and has an ego the size of Saskatchewan. But yeah, she has a great voice. Just hard to admire her hubris...
@@harmony9591
Norman Rockwell depicted an ideal America; Crumb draws the real America
@@charlesameyer1
Beautiful & sad at the same time...the background light of the last panel is gorgeous....
Yes, and "Whats Next??"
I’ve loved Crumb art since 1968 12 years old now I’m still love anything to do with Crumb 😎
my all time favorite Crumb piece. has anyone presented US history so completely, so definitively and so succinctly in so few images?
Yeah, It's called photography, Skip, and based on your ignorance i'm guessing you would be shocked to know it started over a few hundred years ago. LOL :)
@@LRBeforeTheInternet shut it nerd
He should go to France. Oh, he did...
@@LRBeforeTheInternet
i'm ignorant also . but i know one thing . you LR , go out of your way to be nice to everyone .
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Indeed. Try harder to be even more of a dikk@@markbahouth2713
Still timely as ever. Awesome to see this in my feeds so many years later! Thank you algorithm machine, LOL
The algorithm is good. The algorithm is life.
The algorithm keeps feeding me videos on how to bed older women...heh, heh, heh.😅🤣😂
@@onetrueslavethat's unfortunately not always true. Biases are always built in but yes, this was a good one that the algorithm fed us. 😊
Robert Crumb is the Goat of the underground comics by this is the most brilliant and profound piece of art. Watch his Doc folks its great and also sad at the same time.
Like so much of life, but can you imagine a dinner party with bob crumb and bob dylan ?
@@A_Pa-Plainjane Yeah, the conversation would probably go over my head.😁
@@brucestaples4510 well, bobby dylan always wants a little mystery, and robert crumb wants to peer into our history.
@@A_Pa-Plainjane
I, like most people wouldn't deserve a seat at that table, But I would love to be a fly on the wall.
Oh, and for good measure, invite Vonnegut. Maybe we could catch him at the right "time".
@@charlie-obrien would it be like meeting men who had climbed Mt. Everest ? But still, we share being witnesses to our common era. I would be afraid I would ask some stupid question. But they are also humans who looked at our century slightly askew and managed to put their talents to work to share that view. I guess most folk do not or would not appreciate their critiques, but i always found them fascinating, for the most part.
I like how the apartment complex in the last iteration of this scene is called "Oakwood Village," named after the very thing that was built over.
Good catch, thx.
sharp observation 👍 . all over USA .
mostly in housing and apartment complexes .
Ex. Brook Side Apartments . Ivy Ridge Housing Complex . Covered Bridge Apartments . Stream Side Towers . Maple Wood Condominiums. Holly Wood Trailer Park. Rosewood Retirement Homes. etc etc etc ......
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@@markbahouth2713 Cedarcrest Mall (in case you need any Scotch tape)
Two of America’s greatest artists tell the sad inevitable story of ‘progress’ (Joni was actually Canadian but that’s close enough for me)
As I enter my 81st year on this planet the meaning of the word "progress" takes on an ever more appalling meaning.
@@jjhporindeed, more concrete, more light, more technology and far less nature.
W A S⁉️
Always will be Canadian‼️
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And where exactly is Canada, in Asia? The arrogance or ignorance of Usonians calling their country America and themselves Americans as if the rest of the American continent and its inhabitants did not exist or were something not really American.
@@jjhpor Since my eyes ain't what they used to be, I first mis-read "apalling" as appealing and was going to take issue...but now, I couldn't agree with you more.
Wonderful art! Looks like Social Studies at school way back in the early 70s. ❤☺️
So right. I used to live in a charming log house in a large lot with 6 large fir trees around the property. That bit of paradise and the lot next to it, are now paved. In their place is the parking lot for a new sewage treatment plant. Yeah.
My heart broke at 1:53. I have one that's about to come down and I dread that day.😢
Reminds me of the scene in the movie "Crumb" where Robert shows some photos and talks about hiring a photographer to take shots of utility poles and urban infrastructure so he could use them as reference material.
Well there is also a scene just like this but I think it’s in black and white. I think it comes right after the scene you’re talking about
I thought he hired a driver and took the photos himself because he doesn't drive. IDK
@@fritzgolden6237 - could be! It’s been a long time…
@@fritzgolden6237 That is it. I don't believe Robert ever learned to drive. He said the photo albums were an invaluable reference when it came to making cartoons.
So true and so sad. Great work by two talented American artists.
I'm a big R. Crumb Fan, but this is by far my favorite piece of his. A work of Genius! perfect choice of Big Yellow Taxi as a soundtrack! *chef's Kiss*
I have loved watching this many times and it looks just like what my memory is growing up in the late 50's and 60's and it always makes me a little sad and now that my life is just about over I'm actually glad I was born in 1946 and got to see life as it should have been and I feel sorry for all the young people having to endure a shitty existence in a F@#$ed up World~!!! They paved Paradise and put up a parking lot~!!!!!!!!!!!!
I grew up on these comics. I was even given a tour of the offices of Rip Off Press in San Francisco when I was a younger.
i woked running a press for rip off in 1970
I had to go back and watch it again! I love his work. This gets shared.
Beautiful. There Goes The Neighborhood. R Crumb used to ride a Harley around a Lake Town in Idaho when visiting his Folks. Pretty little town, Great Cartoons.
I saw Robert Crumb walking on the side of the road when I was going to work in WInters California. There were open fields of crops and he was all alone. I noticed him because it was very lonesome in the middle of nowhere. He was wearing those round spectacles
I remember the graphics appearing in the (UK) Guardian about twenty(?) years ago. Superb work from one of the greatest living artists.
What a Great Combination ! * I LOVE Joni's MUSIC & I LOVE Robert's ART , Too !! ❤
Crumb’s illustrations are absolutely superb, as is Joni’s ‘Big Yellow Taxi’! ❤
I remember seeing this in the Mother Earth News I believe. Early 80's, drawings were in black and white there. It had quite an impact on me
I have a signed copy of this poster. A prized possession.
Joni will be around forever for her music and wry commentary on society. When I was a youngster I never thought of Crumb being a great artist because there seemed to be a crudeness to his pictures. Now I look at his work as having more character and soul than most fine art masters. These pictures did give me a flashback to when Grandad still used mules in his tobacco fields. I got to see a bit of Paradise as Joni described before overpopulation and greed changed the world.
Brings back great memories
I’ve used this series of drawings for years in esl classes as the prompt for discussing development. I inherited a blurry copy from another teacher and never knew who the artist was. Cool that it is Crumb, and obvious now I know it. Thanks for sharing.
Farm house turned into a house, which turned into a retail business, which turned into a parking lot, and the railroad, the reason for starting the settlement in the first place, eventually disappeared.
The fab Robert crumb, bought my first zap comic in 1971, hard to get in london in those times, loved mr crumbs stuff ever since!
Nice. Surprisingly pastoral work from Crumb, matched perfectly with Joni’s beautiful, hauntingly prescient performance.
Crumb is a genius! I grew up in the 1960's.. I have several boxes of his comic books and the hardcover R.Crumb Sketch Books. I wrote him a few letters back in the day and emailed his son Jesse asking if he do a sketch of my woman and I, but I never received a reply cause I found out that he passed away up here in North California... My thoughts and prayers go to the Crumb family .......Robt Szymanski..
didn't pass away, lives in South France.
@@BasVossen Robert Crumb's son Jesse passed away...
Must have been QUITE a Woman.
Crumb is a great example of seeing what your looking for
Crumb is the rare case of a reactionary who make a damn good point
I remember zap comic books when I was 16 or 17 with also Mr natural and we used to imitate the walk
I got to see one of the original prints of this done by Crumb at the Ackland Museum in Chapel Hill North Carolina. It had the panels on one large piece of paper. Excellent quality. Something to see for real up close.
A Short History of America by two 79 year olds. I never knew they were the same age.
Crumb was amazing in his own weird world!
Thanks Joni. This your song and our forever memory of you. Thanks for your music. Thanks for sharing.
Joni and R Crumb!! Heaven xx🎶🐵❤️
Crumb is really funny in an arty, 70s kinda way. I knew a guy just like him from the flower power era. He was one of my art school buddies. He idolised Crumb, copying his drug induced nightmare scenes slavishly as he popped acid pills or snorted coke. I was a boring, hen pecked family man who knocked out ad agency story boards for serious cash and smoked the occasional joint with him, just to prove I wasn't a vice cop on a sting operation... his druggy mates were all paranoid... Oh happy days!
Joni is one of a kind. Not saying she is 'The GOAT,' but she IS definitely unique and exceptional. BTW... it's not that I don't believe she is 'The GOAT,' it's that I don't believe in the concept of a GOAT. Great is great, and it's irrelevant whether one great artist is 'better' than another in my opinion.
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GAotU = Grand Architect of the Universe. GAUD = Grand Architect of Ur Destruction . . . Abraham's Ur.
Big G. 09/23/26 is the autumn equinox of the US' and the illuminati's 250th year (1776-2026). It is exactly 3.5 years sooner than the Vernal Equinox of 2030, which marks the beginning of the third, 1000-year Days of Heaven, since Jesus was crucified in the year we now call 30 AD. 10/10/26 is 42 new moons sooner. No one "SAW" anything at the Epochal Eclipse.
He was spot on with the disappearance of the street car. From Pittsburgh down to Roscoe PA & to Washington PA ran an astounding Street Car connection, gone since 1953... I wonder what it would have been like😊
As a college kid, I was introduced to Crumb via his delightfully raunchy 'ZAP' comics. His artwork was superb as was his take on the human condition .
"Dope will get you through times of no money, better than money will get you through times of no dope." Free-wheelin' Franklin.
This was the perfect pairing of artists. I can't think of a better song to go with Crumb's brilliant, detailed drawings of time passing!
I miss Oswald's Lunch. Every restaurant in my area serves the same processed food shoveled off the back of a Sysco corporate food truck.
Note how the huge tree in the middle panels starts off as a twig in the early panels.
WOW............. two of my favourite artists in one work.
As an art fan/ student who loves the impressionists , I always loved R Crumbs art. Even the raunchy comics he drew had a certain style that drew me to his work . This piece is a great example of his genius and talent. I’ve seen interviews and he is truly a strange guy
I always admired his line regardless of how offensive the work was.
I remember this series of drawings from so so long ago in a magazine when I was a kid wow never thought I'd see it again... Only back then it was called " well , that's progress "
aren't you all glad that version of life never materialized?
Crumb’s art reminds me of Edward Hopper, whose art I also like so much.
Robert Crumb defines the word genius, deffinetly one of or the greatest graphic artist ever to live.
yes he is . Genius 💡
Witty also :
" at least i'm honest and hate myself as much as i hate everybody " 🤷🏻♂️
Excellent excellence 😛👍♥️♥️🇺🇸🧋🍿🧁
We still only occupy a small fraction of this country, even with all our roads and buildings. Crumb and Mitchell would love Detroit. Huge swaths of it are returning to prairie land. 😄
Yes. All those _terrible things,_ stepping stones, *absolutely necessary stepping stones,* to this video being put together for us all to watch on TH-cam.
Not overtly terrible, just technological progress. I don't think this piece is trying to be critical outright, but it's undeniable that, taken cumulatively, these stepping-stones are leading to the destruction of the natural world.
Poignant and cleverly done.
Robert Crumb the artistic legend paired with Joni Mitchell. Two of the best!
Im 70 and some parts of Western Australia still look like the early part of Mr Crumb's cartoon.
Growing up in the countryside ,that had barely changed for centuries, was more like lucid dreaming than even the mildest rat race. I felt Totally safe and blissfully went about discovering the natural world with an integrated human culture and buildings.
As for Wilderness, well it's only just been born while simultaneously being ancient.
The most idyllic time (for humans) seems to be private houses and the railroad.
Beautiful. And the Joni Mitchell song fits perfectly. I first saw it in the R.Crumb Handbook, authors R. Crumb & Peter Poplaski, MQP Press, 2005. It came with a CD of his music and a lovely bookmark!
He's alive and well living in France. Just recently won a major prize in art from France.
It would be even worse now: that main drag would be a six-lane "stroad" and it would be surrounded by fast-food joints and strip malls with big-box national chains.
Or a mall being put out of business by said Big Box stores and Amazon.
So good! Oh, Joni. I love you so! R. Crumb was a great illustrator. His women were the best though!
i had this as a poster long time ago......really impressed me then.....about the same time i discovered the monkey wrench gang and another roadside attraction.....
I have a hardcover edition of "The Monkey Wrench Gang" illustrated by R. Crumb that I found in a used bookstore in Amsterdam. One of my prized possessions.
A softer side of R. Crumb ....... about as Norman Rockwell as he'll ever get! Notice that the house disappears right after Joni sings "The big yellow tractor, took away my house and my land!"
Thx for pointing that out...I missed a few things on 1st viewing. And also, the used car lot changes to a convenience store, complete with parking lot.
Cool. I highly recommend the movie “Crumb”.
Gregor Samsa meets a unicorn. Great clip!
I was at Woodstock and heard Joni Mitchell then. What struck me about this was that it stopped history around that time too with the illustrations. The song would have proved to be more descriptive if it had continued to the present with not only the outside world being too modernized and less natural, but the inside as well with people not interacting only with nature outside, but not interacting with their families, just electronics. 😢
Only when someone wakes me up! I agree, R. Crumb is cool! Zap Comix really captured what we were all about---way back then... :-)
Hey. I was wondering if I could ask: do you know which concert/bootleg this recording of Big Yellow Taxi is from? :)
Nostalgia.
Sadly, I've got to admit this scenario is all too true. Well done.
Two worst artists of the 70's. I hear France calling.
@@marknewton6984 quite sure you hear something, bro.
@@marknewton6984 That's not France calling...just the voices in your head.
I do love me some Joni Mitchell , but the perfect back-up music for
Crumbs' incredible artistry would be "Telegraph Road " by Dire Straits
as it tells the very story that's illustrated perfectly .
I was thinking the same. It’s possible that this Crumb artwork inspired that song. Of course then the video would need to be over four times as long :-)
Several years a disgraceful campaign against Crumb dissuaded him from visiting Australia which was their loss.He’s a comic genius.
As a young boy I heard the lyrics as " this ain't paradise, put up a parking lot", guess I was cynical even as a kid.
The notable decline was when cars started to replace everything human. The missing final panel is when they bulldozed the whole area for the inevitable freeway.
I live in a remote community surrounded by National Park and National Recreation Areas and the people here are STILL TRYING to “pave paradise and put up a parking lot.” It’s the latest round of the decades old development -vs preservation in this gorgeous valley surrounded by wilderness. Relentless push to develop and make money has to be beaten back (as best as we can) generation after generation.
Great Robert Crumb forever.
This is poignant. Perfect combination of song and image. Thank you
LOVE Joni.😍
That was fun and sad and interesting. Great combination of song and imagery. Joni Mitchell was an amazing song writer.
Beautiful and sad.
Two great artists combine to show life in the USA.
Joni Mitchell wrote this song about a real small town that was ruined by “developers”. Paradise, CA.
Love Joni! We paved paradise because the roads sucked and we wanted to move faster.
Crumb is perhaps America's last great artist, in the truest sense of the word.
France
Everyone should read his book America. So on the money with his vision of the place, (and why he HAD to leave and go live in France)