Moneyball Clinic: Rebuilding CHELSEA (Part 2) | Team, Tactic & Transfer Guide | FM24
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- A theory heavy exploration of Moneyball in FM, and how to use all the data in game to elevate your team to the next level.
LINKS
TacticalFool's Three Pillars of Success: www.viewfromth...
On The Break's Tokyo Verdy: www.viewfromth...
Ben Griffis' Thread on Sigmoid Formula for Possession Adjusted Metrics: / 1592361898334642177
Global Football Rankings: www.globalfoot...
UNLISTED SIMULATION
Here's the full simulation as a timelapse:
• Moneyball Clinic: CHEL...
MONEYBALL CLINIC
A team guide series, using a statistic-led approach to squad assessment, tactic building and recruitment.
SQUAD VIEW
The squad view in the skin in this video is not part of the public release. This is because it causes a number of issues elsewhere - including, but not limited to, being unable to see players out on loan or international squads.
CLARIFICATION
Towards the end of the video, I speak about overpaying on wages for Devyne Rensch. This calls back to an earlier point that was eventually cut from the video. For clarification, we decided to overspend on the basis that should he achieve an average rating of 7.00 (which would be lower than his average rating at Ajax), his wages would end up representing good value. This was a gamble, but one that is low risk.
FEEDBACK
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METHODOLOGY
No editor files were used as part of this process, ensuring that the guide provided is applicable to the vanilla game.
FILES
The spreadsheet is view only. Either make a copy or download.
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I know it's odd to discourage downloading these, but they are very much built for the specific circumstances of this save, and so I'll always encourage applying anything you liked from the video in your own way. Assess what you want to do, and create your own.
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MUSTERMANNFM
A veteran of the FM series, going all the way back to Championship Manager Italia in 1993 (yes, I'm old). Creator of the Mustermann skins (links below) and recently started creating TH-cam content. Awful sense of humour.
MODS USED
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DONATIONS
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MUSIC
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I've been constantly refreshing this app since part one. My family and friends have left me and I have RSI but it's worth every painful refresh
🤣🤣🤣 - I mean were they really you're family and friends if they don't share your enthusiasm?
Think i shit myself laughing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@mustermannfm MONEYBALL is about signing undervalued players
Legit the first youtuber I've ever seen do moneyball correctly in a Sim.
Glad you appreciate it. There is a frustrating tendency to see people throw the term "Moneyball" around and then not do anything that could be conceived as Moneyball at all.
That said, it is a nebulous term. There isn't really a proper analogue for it in football, and so there are some broad interpretations of how it could be implemented.
11:14 mustermann creating fm music like zealand is beautiful
There's not enough FM related short musical interludes in this world!!
The way you play FM is simply out of this world. Amazing job. And it is even more spectacular if you think you simulate the games.
I am convinced that if you actively played those games you would get even better results, since the AI sometimes makes some questionable decisions that the human coach would not make.
Bravo!
Definitely! Being able to react in game and make adjustments would make a huge difference. Even just being able to control substitutions would probably get better results, too!
You're crazy, i've never seen that somebody plays FM kinda like you. That it's legit. You opened FM by another side
One of the best things about FM, in my opinion - so many different ways to play it!!
This is truly an amazing series! Both really enjoyable and informative.
Thank you, dude 🙏 glad you're enjoying it!
Please, teach us how to create those spreadsheets. You're the best creator there is. Period.
I'm afraid I don't have the expertise to do that, and you would be better served finding specialists in that area on YT. I have, however, shared the spreadsheet in the description, so you can make a copy and reverse engineer.
Unbelievable video, raising the bar on fm YT content. Was locked in from start to finish, especially on the mcginn bit 😂😂😂
Thanks dude 🙏 glad you enjoyed it! Gonna need to find more excuses for Twerking McGinn to appear in videos 😂
The amount of work you put in these videos is clear to see. Great video mate!
Still very much learning, but it's important for me to put as much care and love into these as I possibly can. It's the least I can do for all you lovely people who keep tuning in!!
This was indeed one of the nerdiest FM videos I've ever seen😂 Loved every second tho
Much respect for a Warwick bass in the background🤘
As an aside: of you're open to suggestions regarding the skin, I would LOVE to be able to see my boys' pretty faces a little more often - on the tactics screen and in the match graphics at the bottom.
Well spotted. I am a bit of a Warwick junkie. Just need a 5 string to add to the collection now.
I will add in the option to add faces to the squad view on the tactics screen in the next update (didn't realise it wasn't there already). Unlikely to be added to the actual tactic bit (on the right), however, as it is a nightmare at lower resolutions. I'll have to check the impact on the match players bar at lower resolutions, too, before I can comment on that!
@@mustermannfm Warwicks do have a sound of their own, indeed!
Thank you! That will be much appreciated😊
Muuuuuuum, I made the video!! 😂
Absolutely outstanding work as always sir! The level of detail and the ability to explain it all coherently is absolutely incredible.
This will definitely be a video to keep coming back to for inspiration.
Thank you, dude. I'm relieved you found it coherent, because this one went through quite a few re-writes - and still stuff ended up being cut out. Maybe I need to create a Patreon for Director's Cuts or something 😂
such a class video, dont stop this series!!
It's not going away anytime soon! Next few vids on the channel will be the PAOK series, but I'll be back with another Moneyball Clinic late April
Man, you put waaaaay too much effort in this videos. Lucky us! This was a great series. One of your best. Kuddos from brazil
Let's be honest - Football Manager isn't the most interesting game to watch as a spectator. So two choices for videos - put in effort, or rely on personality. I don't have the latter, so I have to put in effort 😂
Great video as always! I'd love to see some more tactical content though, for example a more detailed guide on how to identify and fix issues in a tactic.
There's a couple of vids worth checking out. This is from FM23, although the approach remains the same: th-cam.com/video/es6aNRX-cC0/w-d-xo.html
Or this from the PAOK series: th-cam.com/video/7BqSQFiFtbk/w-d-xo.html
@@mustermannfm Thank you.
This is an amazing job! I love your Excel Sheets btw.
Please keep doing the Moneyball Clinic series
It's not going anyway!! Fluminense episode should hopefully be out (editing time permitting) end of next week/early the week after!
Unbelievable set of videos. We need more!
Glad you enjoyed it. And no worries, there will be more! Eventually! Back to the PAOK series for the next couple of videos, and then off to Turkey for a more budget-constricted Moneyball Clinic.
Absolute madman! Never have I seen anybody play the game to such depth statistics wise, I dip my hat to you sir 🎩
In many ways it's a cheat code. Focussing on how players actually perform (stats) rather than how they might perform (attributes) means that I can feel a lot more confident about things working out!
Man... Love the series, love the Mustermann skin you made and those lovely pizza charts. I'm addicted. :D One thing I'd like to know... can the stats on the pizza charts change? We can now compare a player to different kinds of players but the metrics are always the same. Different metrics for midfield creators or wide players or goalscoring strikers or provider strikers? Stag Stats meet Pizza charts. :D
In any case... Great work, man!
It's not planned as an improvement. Based on the Pizza Charts from The Athletic, the metrics are the same regardless of position - this is because regardless of position, players are involved in all phases and their contributions help to understand a high-level overview of their playing style. Taken from the Skin FAQs:
theathletic.com/2746113/2021/09/12/a-guide-to-smarterscout-and-understanding-the-athletics-pizza-charts/ (requires subscription)
The same metrics are used for each position (except goalkeepers) to enable you to understand the tactical profile of a player. Forwards will be involved in a defensive capacity, and defenders will be involved in an attacking capacity, and understanding how a player compares in his position in all aspects of the game is important.
@@mustermannfm Thank you for the clarification! Keep up the great work and thank you for those beautiful charts. :)
Made a “ooooh” sound when I saw your upload, I guess thats good😂
I'm happy with that! In real life, I'm usually met with rolled eyes and sighs.
Stumbled upon this by chance due to TH-cam algorithms....and for the first time I'm actually glad it did. Fantastic work done here. Instant subscriber.
Also I'd like to emulate these for a new save as thanks to you I've suddenly got the zeal to start a new save. Will definitely binge all your content and keep an eye out for new ones. Top comtent
Welcome aboard!!
I'm glad you've enjoyed it, and hope the upcoming episodes will continue to entertain! The next couple of weeks will be the PAOK series, before we head to Turkey for a more budget-restricted challenge in the next Moneyball Clinic.
@@mustermannfm nice!!! My notications are already on also is there like a guide on how to use money ball, line how to sign players and what variables to look at with the filters and all. Again awsome content as always.
@@popoolamayowa8971 so sorry - for some reason this comment was held for review, and only just noticed.
I am often at pains to point out throughout these videos, there is no template answer. The metrics you want to be looking at are going to be based on your tactic and team. The expectations from a DLP will be different from one situation to another.
That's why in this video I go through my expectations/assumptions, and look through the stats to see what things happen that I didn't expect, too. That informs the variables to look at.
@@mustermannfm no problem at all....its all good. Thanks for the feedback, awsome content as always
11:17 🎶🎶"Well it technically isn't a glossary"🎶🎶
ART!
It's important to maintain technical accuracy 😂
Greatest fm youtuber oat
Too kind, thank you!
You kept the songs!
My Twitter finally had some use.
Also another Banger of an episode, perfect blend of number and Levity.
Now I know who you are on Twitter!
I was afraid that something happened to you, where were you this days? Best FM creator out-there!
I appreciate the kind words and concern 🤗
Sadly these things do take some time - not least because I end up rewriting episodes quite a few times 😂
@@mustermannfm Great episode, maybe the best one even, just one more question, on what resolution do you play?
@@jovanlukac6734 2560x1440.
There have been some previous videos where I would record in windowed mode at 1920x1080, but my native resolution is 2560x1440.
Oh, you're also a bassist! I'm hyped to know who'll be the next teams to be fixed
The best instrument!! None of this 6 string nonsense 😂
I'm going to keep the next team secret...although I'll tell you that we're off to Turkey next.
To say I was excited for this was an understatement
I hope it lived up to expectations!!
wow so in-depth, you've gained a new sub!
Awesome, welcome aboard 🫡
Glad you've enjoyed it so far, and hope you'll enjoy what's to come!
Mustermann i wish i was a nerd like you
You make this game seen so much easier
It's taken 30 years, but being a nerd is finally paying off 😂
Joking aside, I do genuinely think this approach makes things easier. Stop worrying about attributes, just focus on who actually does things good!
Very good video as usual. Great details and easy to follow explanations.
Would be nice to see a Moneyball Clinic with Borussia Mönchengladbach in the future!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
I'll add Mönchengladbach to the list...can't make any promises as the list is getting large, but it's on there!
Too detailed and well explained
You are best when you are doing Moneyball
Thank you, dude 🙏
Brilliant video, this is such a nice new way of looking at the game, gonna try this in my saves. Maybe u could do a moneyball clinic for viewer’s saves
That would be something that I'd love to do, but realistically do not have the time for at the moment. If I'm ever in a position to do this full-time, however, it's top of my list!!
Love these informative vids broski🔥
Thank you, dude 🙏
Another amazing video.
Thank you 🙏
OPDA Gangnam style suprised me.
First impressions when i saw that the video is that long - OH YEAH it's gonna be a banger. And you know what? It is a banger! Big thx for your time and work. Gonna use lots of thing which you mantion in the video. Your channel defenetly is my favourite one by far.
I'm rewatching the video and notice at 7:30 you are using a great way to compare multiple players in one window. Its like pain in the ass if I wanna compare for example four of my CB's. Trying to do the same thing in squad tab in my game and could find the way to do it. Even though im using your in game skin. Is it some sort of video edit? Or there is a simple way to do it and im just looking in the wrong sections or something?
You won't be able to do it, I'm afraid. As mentioned in the description:
The squad view in the skin in this video is not part of the public release. This is because it causes a number of issues elsewhere - including, but not limited to, being unable to see players out on loan or international squads.
Every video for me is like going to a school which teaches football manager. The quality of each and every video is great. I just have a quick question. Is the PAOK save over? Because I really enjoyed that one (probably because I'm a PAOK fan from Thessaloniki).
PAOK is still very much continuing, and will return next week!!
This particular Moneyball Clinic was quite a big one, so needed to be split into two parts - and unfortunately I'm not the quickest (I try to make up for it with care and quality). There'll be at least 2 PAOK episodes before the next Moneyball Clinic.
@@mustermannfm Well, you know what they say ; quality is better than quantity. Thanks for answering. Have a good day!
Does the skin have a version that shows attributes? I consider myself good at FM but you're on a whole different level. Not ready for no attributes yet🙌😅
I'm afraid not. It's an attributeless skin.
Brilliant video as per , what video ideas do you have in the pipeline ?
For the time being it is just this series and the PAOK series. That takes up most of my free time!
The next Moneyball Clinic episodes will be a club in Turkey, then South America, then the English Championship
@MustermannFM Hi, I have experimented with statistics in FM for a while now, and wanted to comment on your scoring and weightings of players (minutes 22-23 in the video). By using the editor, I have collected the league reputation scores for all the leagues down to Serie C or equivalent. These numbers have helped me to weight the scores I give to players (in a similar manner to you), by dividing the scouted player's league rating with the rating of the league I am playing in. Notify me if you want me to share that information. For the scoring I have used Stag's baseline numbers for stats and standardized values across performace metrics to make an aggregated score for their statistical output, in order to quickly narrow down the best players. In true moneyball-fashion, I have also added a metric where their wage is divided with the weighted score to rank the players with the best value. Love this series, and really excited about seeing how you use stats! Wish you all the best :)
What a fabulous approach. I love hearing and seeing how people look to apply things in their own games!!
That is ultimately the crux of the series (and the points made in this video) - is that there isn't necessarily a "right" way to approach things, and that finding the methods and metrics that work for you is the most important aspect
appreciate your content!! what i dont get- you seem to choose a team Poland, then marking as unemployed, to end up as a chelsea manager?! Whats the process and idea behind it?! just wondering.
It was explained in Part 1:
"In fact, we’re going to start in Poland, as this drops us in the middle of June before a single transfer has been completed"
My problem with average rating is that it also heavily depends on team sucess. That's where MOTM may come in
Which is another reason why it is a good indicator for where a player might be valued in the wider market. Team success plays a huge part in how player's are perceived.
As mentioned in the video, it's a flawed metric, and it's main value is giving you an understanding of how a player will be viewed within the game world, and that can help guide (albeit loosely) assessment of wage demands. This is particularly useful for an old fart like me who baulks every time a player wants more than £100k per week. In my head, that's elite player money, but that's just not the case anymore!
@@mustermannfm The problem is when you have a good player on a bad team and the player only averages like 6.8 to 7.0. Unless you also consider team strength, a deviation from the team average or MOTM it is, imo, highly flawed
Lets goo Moneyball
🎶 Take me out to the ball game
You should do one for Barcelona
It's a consideration given their financial woes, but the next few team episodes is likely to be in some less featured leagues.
@@mustermannfm I have made my games according to your Sevilla and Chelsea videos, so I must tell you that I am a big fan of your dedication to finding players that fit the team without falling into market rumors. So, I'm really looking forward to your next video, and hoping you make one of Barcelona and/or Milan. You are great
Thank you, and glad to hear you're enjoying it so far. Italy is a league I haven't done yet, so there will be one there in the future!!
Hi. At 7:33. How do I get that view when comparing players in the same window, that is super useful. I cannot figure out how you did that.
Ignore that read the description
How do you get the player profile to pop up on the left when selecting them in squad overview like at 11:08? When I select a player, nothing pops up
As mentioned in the description:
SQUAD VIEW
The squad view in the skin in this video is not part of the public release. This is because it causes a number of issues elsewhere - including, but not limited to, being unable to see players out on loan or international squads.
Hi bro! How do you diagnose what the key metrics are for each role?
I think about what I expect the players to do in possession, and out of possession, and chose the metrics that display that. It's really that simple.
That player comparison on the squad menu is not available on the skin?
Correct, as mentioned in the description:
*SQUAD VIEW*
The squad view in the skin in this video is not part of the public release. This is because it causes a number of issues elsewhere - including, but not limited to, being unable to see players out on loan or international squads
@@mustermannfm My bad. Missed that one
How do you get the player profile to open like that on the squad page or is that just an edit 😂?
As mentioned in the description:
SQUAD VIEW
The squad view in the skin in this video is not part of the public release. This is because it causes a number of issues elsewhere - including, but not limited to, being unable to see players out on loan or international squads.
How do you make your squad view look like this? 7:41 I downloaded the view in the description but the game keeps saying that it's not valid for the current panel
As per the description:
SQUAD VIEW
The squad view in the skin in this video is not part of the public release. This is because it causes a number of issues elsewhere - including, but not limited to, being unable to see players out on loan or international squads.
@@mustermannfm Oh, i didnt see it, thx.
When you say Enzo should be more involved in deeper areas, which metrics are you using to judge that? Cheers!
Mainly the defensive contribution, but also on dribbles. By and large, the Segundo Volante is able to make more dribbles when on support, as they are able to break the lines from deep. Whereas on attack duty, they join the front line early, and so tend to operate in tighter spaces.
I’m early for once!
Kicking off the weekend in the right way!
U signed the holy spanner
I actually had to re-record that bit, because I kept calling him holy spanner, and then realised that most people who see this won't have seen the Ajax videos 😂
Can you sim your tactics with old players? If their result is considerably worse then you can show your way is better.
That would ignore the fact that the approach is holistic. It's not a case of "THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO PLAY", but how can we apply Moneyball principles to change a club's fortune. The assessment of the team, selling & signing of players, and development of tactics all work hand-in-hand. We benchmark against the AI across multiple simulations to get an understanding of where they are in general.
Moreover, it's only a starting point. A shell to build from. In a real save, the tactic would be more refined, as I'd be able to observe what is happening in games and make adjustments accordingly.
@@mustermannfm in some fm discussion forums somebody mentioned you and was saying without moneyball transfer your tactic will be enough to break game engine with original player.
@@khemrajbudha7955 I'm quite surprised to hear that. It's a very simple tactic 😂. You're welcome to test it yourself. The tactic is in the description.
I'm not particularly bothered by whatever the "meta" is. Through both videos I explain how the tactic was built around what we have available to us. It's unlikely to be the tactic I would use if I'd just kept the original squad.
@@mustermannfm I am fully agreed with your process and result. I am just mentioning this so that new players just dont misinterprete your gem content, so that they dont misunderstand your process. Anyways good content mate.
Can you do a separate video on how to use the data hub effectively?
@@khemrajbudha7955 I'll certainly consider it.
I'm not sure how much value I can add, because I find it pretty self explanatory. What I mean is that as I find it intuitive to use, I may not necessarily be able to identify why people don't share that same experience to then explain how to use it effectively. I hope that makes sense.
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Do Man Utd next
I'll add them to the list of requests, but unlikely to make it before the end of the FM24 cycle. Maybe one for FM25 after they've sacked Ten Hag 🤯
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Blessed 🙏 thank you, dude!