I’m sorry but anytime I heard Poupart’s voice, I fast forwarded until I heard someone else speak. Dude is a gaslighter, and the fact that he tried to paint the picture of not knowing how good “Mike White or Teddy Bridgewater could be” if they had reps with Waddle or Reek speaks volumes of how ungenuine he is. I hope things will work out with Tua’s extension but part of me is also sad because he’s done what’s asked of him in spite of having to deal with terrible circumstances that would’ve broken most people. Yet the moment he asks for more he’s told to not only be patient, but is still being asked to perform behind an unpredictable O-Line. Business can be messed up.
Poup just loves justifying anything that would downplay Tuas' value to this offense. They are not building this offense to then give it to a backup to drive. If they don't want to pay Tua then they don't believe in him long term.
I knew Poupart was going to come on your show and spew his nonsense. Tyreek would prorate to 2300 yds with Bridgewater for 17 games. I say he'd struggle to get 1000 yds. He said on his channel Bridgewater would prorate to 5400 yds in 17 games. LOL!! This is the type of nonsense that comes out of the mouth of a Tua Hater. He doesn't want to sit around and listen to everyone be all positive about the Dolphins. Gotta get back to the negative nonsense with Perk. And Yes Poupart, we do know about Mike White, we do know about Bridgewater. They're NOT GOID. Everyone seems to knowthis but Poupart. Doesn't matter though. Tua's deal will get done. I believe it!!
What’s the goal? To win games or win games in the playoffs? Tua has show he can’t win games when they matter. Sorry he just isn’t worth 50mil a year at this stage of his career just because the “market” says he is.
@@jakehalf4050 bro’s only played in 1 playoff game and has proven himself more than once he can “win against playoff teams”. you’re chasing a dumb narrative that doesn’t make any sense and has no merit. you’re not a gm for a reason if you based qb qualifications on such shallow thoughts and ideas.
I knew I could not watch this show live because of my intense dislike of Allen Poupart. I did not want to get blocked, but I would not have been able to keep my mouth shut over the garbage and spew from this fool‘s mouth, him and Omar I have no time for. I never watched their show after about a month.. both Tua haters
Had Grier/Shore actually address the O-line this year. Tua might have taken a team deal knowing he's protected long enough to make his progressions. Jackson had one good year, Hunt walked out the door, Williams is on his way out, We pray that the left side can play at least 12 games... Trying to build a race car on bald tires.
I think we needed more for the o-line. We drafted a guy in Patrick Paul who won't help us this year and I question whether he will ever become a player in the NFL. We missed out on some great o-line prospects in this past draft.
Poupart is a Tua hater. Of course the offense would look different without Tua. He led the entire NFL in passing yards in 2023 and lead the NFL in passer rating in 2022. That’s a terrible take.
@joshshamar6528 Never mad tuh...no he's weird because he does the absolute most and hates when anybody speaks positively on Tua....like gone with all that
Of this panel, Poopart is the only one who seems like he hasn’t studied for the test, yet he thinks he knows all of the answers. Reason, Doug, and the others have far superior takes and knowledge because they actually know the game a heck of a lot better and spend hundreds if not thousands of hours studying tape on players, film breakdowns and a whole lot more. Also, their takes are very objective and given after they have done their homework. A lot of Poop’s takes are largely centered on if he likes or dislikes a certain player or even a coach. Very difficult to be objective under those circumstances.
Sorry Reason, I gave it a try - but once I herd you say that Poop was going to be on the panel I doubted I would be able to watch it. I gave it a chance, but once he started talking I was out. He's the prototypical reporter that thinks he's an analyst and just has very bad takes. I guess he probably got attacked by Tuanon years back and he's just leaned in and doubled-down on his bad takes.... I stopped watching the show he had with Omar and I just can't take listening to someone that thinks because he's covered a team for so long that his takes should be respected when he doesn't watch any all-22 or at least read/listen to good analysts that do.
The guy’s obsessive glazing over Bridgewater is one of the most bizarre things I’ve ever seen. I remember one game Teddy came in and was five yards short on a 20-yard throw on the first drive, was borderline embarrassing. Poupart needs to take the L on Tua and go home.. at the same time, not surprised by the shenanigans from someone who grew up in America’s evil top hat
@kmshark12 I agreed with you 💯, Poop’s takes are horrible. He is not objective. He brings up stats only when it’s favorable to the point HE is making and minimizes or rejects stats that doesn’t support his takes. His take on the o-line of not being a problem and the injuries that plagued the o-line wasn’t that big of a deal. His takes last season that injuries late in the year particularly on defense wasn’t a major issue. Poop to me is a great statistician trying to be an analyst without the deep football knowledge that good analysts have.
I think Tua should let Grier and his staff take snaps for Tua, so they can a full scope of what a qb goes thru this type of system. I remembered when Tua said at one of his media interview when he first played for his 1st pro offensive coordinator, you can look it up. He said, respectfully, " I didn't think it(meaning, the play call) was going to work, but I ran it anyways. " Tua knew his offensive coordinator wasn't up to par with the type of defenses they threw at him. Flores picked his offensive coordinator because Kirkpatrick recommended him. Can you believe that!? Crazy...
Cave? Huh? Is Tua threatening to hold out? If not, let him play out the season on his 5th year, $23 million. That's fair. For those that feel Tua's work and the numbers he's posted up til now put him into the top 5, 10 whatever and should garner a certain salary, tell me this. If this season Tua puts up nearly identical numbers with similar statistical rankings, goes 1-6 against teams with a winning record (again), averages 16 points versus teams that made the playoffs (again) and the Dolphins finish the season 10-8, does that strengthen his case or weaken his case?
Just pay the man, he's been improving on a yearly basis, and IMHO has proven he's a good QB. Screw the weapons debate, someone has to get the ball to these weapons and Tua can. Debate over
It is this simple. With the increases in salary cap over the next few years, pay Tua, if he doesn't put it all together, cut him, eat the dead cap, and move on.
I for one hate drama- the situation with Tua promises to be a distraction- I believe that if this deal is not done and Tua hits free agency next yr he will get his money- That is unless Grier has a target (someone) in mind.
Here's what I want to know. Ask Reason tonight if Tua checked Mike and refused to run empty back sets on 3rd or 4th and Short; Would Tua then be worth 55 million?????
Great show guys, y’all need to stop hating on Allen lol, it’s nice seeing an actual debate. It’s a fair debate saying at least 15 QBs can come in and do what Tua does having the best skilled position groups in the league.
After watching this I think you needed to allow time for actual debate. I mean Alain said a good amount that I would have loved to see you all debate about, but for some reason it was just giving opinions and moving on. A show like this needs more debate… just my opinion.
I debated Poupart when we discussed QBs and the scheme, problem is we have an hour and everyone wants to get their thoughts in on all the various topics. I;m sure tomorrow night's panel will have some debates too.
Great show. It's good to have Poop in the conversation, because he gives us tingling comments that makes us cringe, and shake our heads and keep us at the end of our chairs, saying to ourselves "What a piece of $#%$+" Then Reason knows we're paying attention.
I’m sorry but anytime I heard Poupart’s voice, I fast forwarded until I heard someone else speak. Dude is a gaslighter, and the fact that he tried to paint the picture of not knowing how good “Mike White or Teddy Bridgewater could be” if they had reps with Waddle or Reek speaks volumes of how ungenuine he is. I hope things will work out with Tua’s extension but part of me is also sad because he’s done what’s asked of him in spite of having to deal with terrible circumstances that would’ve broken most people. Yet the moment he asks for more he’s told to not only be patient, but is still being asked to perform behind an unpredictable O-Line. Business can be messed up.
Poup just loves justifying anything that would downplay Tuas' value to this offense.
They are not building this offense to then give it to a backup to drive.
If they don't want to pay Tua then they don't believe in him long term.
I knew Poupart was going to come on your show and spew his nonsense. Tyreek would prorate to 2300 yds with Bridgewater for 17 games. I say he'd struggle to get 1000 yds. He said on his channel Bridgewater would prorate to 5400 yds in 17 games. LOL!! This is the type of nonsense that comes out of the mouth of a Tua Hater. He doesn't want to sit around and listen to everyone be all positive about the Dolphins. Gotta get back to the negative nonsense with Perk. And Yes Poupart, we do know about Mike White, we do know about Bridgewater. They're NOT GOID. Everyone seems to knowthis but Poupart. Doesn't matter though. Tua's deal will get done. I believe it!!
Miami is 0-6 without Tua since Tyreek Hill has been on the team.
Doug is right, if Tua doesnt play we are LUCKY to win 5 games
1 win against the jets
@@thelaseringtrespiker4006 your right. I forgot we beat the jets. 11-6 and didn’t score a single touchdown without tua.
What’s the goal? To win games or win games in the playoffs? Tua has show he can’t win games when they matter. Sorry he just isn’t worth 50mil a year at this stage of his career just because the “market” says he is.
@@jakehalf4050 bro’s only played in 1 playoff game and has proven himself more than once he can “win against playoff teams”. you’re chasing a dumb narrative that doesn’t make any sense and has no merit. you’re not a gm for a reason if you based qb qualifications on such shallow thoughts and ideas.
When Reason mentioned Teddy, I knew the President on Teddyanon would be triggered.
Pay the man. Ridiculous
Mike White is no where near as accurate as Tua. Literally most accurate deep ball in the league.
Tua should not cave and focuse on his performances 💪👍.
I knew I could not watch this show live because of my intense dislike of Allen Poupart. I did not want to get blocked, but I would not have been able to keep my mouth shut over the garbage and spew from this fool‘s mouth, him and Omar I have no time for. I never watched their show after about a month.. both Tua haters
Personally, I think poop part is on the spectrum.
😂😂 right. You can see him turning red and his blood boiling anytime anyone says positive things about Tua
Had Grier/Shore actually address the O-line this year. Tua might have taken a team deal knowing he's protected long enough to make his progressions.
Jackson had one good year, Hunt walked out the door, Williams is on his way out, We pray that the left side can play at least 12 games... Trying to build a race car on bald tires.
I think we needed more for the o-line. We drafted a guy in Patrick Paul who won't help us this year and I question whether he will ever become a player in the NFL. We missed out on some great o-line prospects in this past draft.
@@MADDIE55176 both of your comments are spot on. I wouldn't want to play on a team deal when the line is duct tape worthy.
Poupart is a Tua hater. Of course the offense would look different without Tua. He led the entire NFL in passing yards in 2023 and lead the NFL in passer rating in 2022. That’s a terrible take.
Bridgewater didnt have a single 1st down with hill and waddle.
Defenses can crowd the box because they know our backups cant play ball
Poupart's arrogance of dumb makes the entire panel uncomfortable. Terrible choice.
Fans voted everyone onto this panel.
Agreed
You've got to ask, what has Tua ever done to Poupart? It almost seems personal at this point.
Poptart man is weird...made this video annoying
@@joshshamar6528 lol no, because he was shilling for Mike White, essentially. And it is obvious you didnt watch. Hater
@joshshamar6528 Never mad tuh...no he's weird because he does the absolute most and hates when anybody speaks positively on Tua....like gone with all that
@joshshamar6528 Yes he does, next!
Good lord Poupart is such a Clown 🤡 Bridgewater would put up big numbers ? I forgot he is a Tua hater
Of this panel, Poopart is the only one who seems like he hasn’t studied for the test, yet he thinks he knows all of the answers. Reason, Doug, and the others have far superior takes and knowledge because they actually know the game a heck of a lot better and spend hundreds if not thousands of hours studying tape on players, film breakdowns and a whole lot more. Also, their takes are very objective and given after they have done their homework. A lot of Poop’s takes are largely centered on if he likes or dislikes a certain player or even a coach. Very difficult to be objective under those circumstances.
Sorry Reason, I gave it a try - but once I herd you say that Poop was going to be on the panel I doubted I would be able to watch it. I gave it a chance, but once he started talking I was out. He's the prototypical reporter that thinks he's an analyst and just has very bad takes. I guess he probably got attacked by Tuanon years back and he's just leaned in and doubled-down on his bad takes.... I stopped watching the show he had with Omar and I just can't take listening to someone that thinks because he's covered a team for so long that his takes should be respected when he doesn't watch any all-22 or at least read/listen to good analysts that do.
Smh you should be able to respect everyone’s opinion, he’s a good reporter
The guy’s obsessive glazing over Bridgewater is one of the most bizarre things I’ve ever seen. I remember one game Teddy came in and was five yards short on a 20-yard throw on the first drive, was borderline embarrassing. Poupart needs to take the L on Tua and go home.. at the same time, not surprised by the shenanigans from someone who grew up in America’s evil top hat
Sorry, but i cannot watch this podcast with Alan
@@htel123in general that’s true but his opinions stem from stirring up controversy and pettiness. He’s untrustworthy.
@kmshark12 I agreed with you 💯, Poop’s takes are horrible. He is not objective. He brings up stats only when it’s favorable to the point HE is making and minimizes or rejects stats that doesn’t support his takes. His take on the o-line of not being a problem and the injuries that plagued the o-line wasn’t that big of a deal. His takes last season that injuries late in the year particularly on defense wasn’t a major issue. Poop to me is a great statistician trying to be an analyst without the deep football knowledge that good analysts have.
Great video guy I really enjoyed this be safe and phins up
Bridgewater didnt have a single 1st down with hill and waddle.
Defenses can crowd the box because they know our backups cant play ball
Poop art getting emotional over backup QB's like always.
I think Tua should let Grier and his staff take snaps for Tua, so they can a full scope of what a qb goes thru this type of system.
I remembered when Tua said at one of his media interview when he first played for his 1st pro offensive coordinator, you can look it up. He said, respectfully, " I didn't think it(meaning, the play call) was going to work, but I ran it anyways. "
Tua knew his offensive coordinator wasn't up to par with the type of defenses they threw at him. Flores picked his offensive coordinator because Kirkpatrick recommended him.
Can you believe that!? Crazy...
Cave? Huh? Is Tua threatening to hold out? If not, let him play out the season on his 5th year, $23 million. That's fair. For those that feel Tua's work and the numbers he's posted up til now put him into the top 5, 10 whatever and should garner a certain salary, tell me this. If this season Tua puts up nearly identical numbers with similar statistical rankings, goes 1-6 against teams with a winning record (again), averages 16 points versus teams that made the playoffs (again) and the Dolphins finish the season 10-8, does that strengthen his case or weaken his case?
Just pay the man, he's been improving on a yearly basis, and IMHO has proven he's a good QB. Screw the weapons debate, someone has to get the ball to these weapons and Tua can. Debate over
Mike White has no more than 2.09 seconds to release, no freaking way
Chris's OL history is typical for the dolphins, 2.09 seconds to release, lets see how Mike White can fit in this time to release.
It is this simple. With the increases in salary cap over the next few years, pay Tua, if he doesn't put it all together, cut him, eat the dead cap, and move on.
Pay the man now and he will give back later for OL and run defense stability
the problem with your view is our OL, the lack of an OL
If Miami have thought about Tua then they should tread him and bring in who they think can get the job done.
No running back is getting anywhere behind this OL
we need for Chris G to build an OL, 30 years and the same old same old
No OL will result is the same as last year. U can't take the next step with is OL
I for one hate drama- the situation with Tua promises to be a distraction- I believe that if this deal is not done and Tua hits free agency next yr he will get his money- That is unless Grier has a target (someone) in mind.
Mike White will end up in a trauma center
I’m watching Cam Smith the most! I want to see what he can do
This guy I can’t stand with his anti Tua
U can't take the next step with this OL
Get rid of Mr. know it all😂
U can’t win with Alain
mike is limited by the OL
Good show!
Hicks from PER4ORM said Fortson weighed 244 pounds today. So he's not the 226 he's listed at.
Phinz Up
Great show, especially on the breakdown of the defense by everyone!
I think this is the year that our coach see the field better than ever seen before because he has his players and now the hold field is open to him
mcdaniel turns into pass happy Gase too often.
Poop is a know it all who thinks he is smarter than everyone else
Here's what I want to know. Ask Reason tonight if Tua checked Mike and refused to run empty back sets on 3rd or 4th and Short; Would Tua then be worth 55 million?????
I think so....
Sorry about the double message.
Great show guys
Great show guys, y’all need to stop hating on Allen lol, it’s nice seeing an actual debate. It’s a fair debate saying at least 15 QBs can come in and do what Tua does having the best skilled position groups in the league.
Can you limit Ballgame to 20 minute responses? Jezus F@&$!
After watching this I think you needed to allow time for actual debate. I mean Alain said a good amount that I would have loved to see you all debate about, but for some reason it was just giving opinions and moving on. A show like this needs more debate… just my opinion.
I debated Poupart when we discussed QBs and the scheme, problem is we have an hour and everyone wants to get their thoughts in on all the various topics. I;m sure tomorrow night's panel will have some debates too.
Thanks Reason! Loved the show, just wanted to give a little feedback. Keep up that great work my friend.
Great show. It's good to have Poop in the conversation, because he gives us tingling comments that makes us cringe, and shake our heads and keep us at the end of our chairs, saying to ourselves "What a piece of $#%$+"
Then Reason knows we're paying attention.