On Test: best rifle under £500

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  • We review three rifles that sell in the UK for under £500: the Remington Model 783 in .243, the Savage Axis XP in .243, and the Winchester XPR in .270. Tim Pilbeam brings together a professional gamekeeper, Roy Foster, who wants a classic yet workaday rifle, and long-range specialist Mark '260rips' Ripley, who wants to knock over a fox at 300 yards as well as a deer at 100 metres. They put the rifles through their paces and reveal their favourites - and why.
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  • @sondon7103
    @sondon7103 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    After sighting in at 60 feet, I could easily cover 5 shots with a nickel th-cam.com/users/postUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL ! Truly a pleasure to shoot! Scope was easy to adjust for eye relief. Only problem the varmints must have seen it delivered lol!Update: So impressed with shot groups at 30 yards I purchased a Hammers 3×9 with adjustable Objective scope! Now a true nail driver!

  • @jmmartin7766
    @jmmartin7766 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I chose the Savage Axis because it felt great in-hand, was in a caliber I like (.30-06), and for $350usd, it came complete with entry-level yet serviceable Weaver scope, sling swivel studs and accutrigger...
    Once I added an after-market bipod, sling, and self-applied cammo paint job, *I absolutely love it!*
    🖒😎

  • @trevorgomez3343
    @trevorgomez3343 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I paid $280 plus tax for my Remington 783 chambered in 30-06 here in the United States. I have shot steel targets from 220 to 600 yards with mine. I also shot a coyote at 5 yards and a Whitetail buck at 262 yards this season. The adjustable trigger, steel detachable magazine, cylindrical receiver, pillar bedded/free floated stock, and magnum contour button rifled barrel make this rifle a steal for the money. I highly recommend this rifle to a new or experienced hunter.

    • @arotom
      @arotom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes, but its still a Remington !! . shiiiiiiiiiiite

    • @Noahkng56
      @Noahkng56 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine has feeding issues, probably just needs a new magazine, other than that it’s not a bad rifle especially for the price. Picking up an XPR soon, looking forward to comparing the two

    • @tomwolak3362
      @tomwolak3362 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I picked up a new in the box 783 in 30\06 for 295 dollars. Put a bushnell 2 to 7 trophy scope on it and with good handloads i get 3 shot groups under a inch at 100 from that excellent trigger. Have had no issues those guys describe and the gun functions flawless. Most of these reviews are just too damn picky .Even a 2000 dollar kimber 82c super grade has teething problems at first.

  • @jellybryce7742
    @jellybryce7742 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    like the different perspectives from different shooters!

  • @victorcreed8856
    @victorcreed8856 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    XPR for the win

  • @kingduckford
    @kingduckford 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Friend of mine won two different Remington 783 rifles in two different raffles at the local bar, both in 223, both with optics included. He brought them up to the property for zeroing and shooting, it was quite interesting to say the least. Indeed, modern manufacturing has come so far that even cheap barrels and base guns are now surprisingly accurate, and during the good hours of daylight these cheap optics do very well. Even a market rifle like these is good enough that someone can get started and learn the basics with centerfire rifle, and good enough to take game during the season.
    But, I have to admit the gun felt cheap as all get out. I can't believe that the cheap glass on those rifles will hold up in the dark early and late hours of the hunt, and how they will hold up over the years of use I won't even ask. Most of all, the trigger was absolutely terrible, not just hard but it felt cheap and clunky. It was honestly shocking to have a bolt action rifle, and a modern sporter at that, with a worse trigger than my GI battle rifles. There's something great wrong when a FAL trigger, or the big wall on the G3's trigger to be pushed through, feels like an absolute delight compared to the chunky feel of the 783's I shot. Probably something that will get better with use, something maybe a skilled man could fix with a little work. Even the bolt was stiff and not smooth from the examples I shot. The rifles were good enough to hunt with, but you can tell they are cheap.
    Perhaps a good way to break younger people with less money into the sports, but for a lifetime investment you still have to shake your head sometimes. Good things spoil you I guess.

  • @dalanwanbdiska6542
    @dalanwanbdiska6542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have the savage axis 2 xp in 243 winchester. Very fast hard hitting bullets . The deer ive shot drop in their tracks. Using 80 grains gmx . My bro went with the mossberg patriot in 243. His main rifle is the remington 770 , 243 . Winchester.

  • @rbm6184
    @rbm6184 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good video. Need more of these comparisons with like or more evenly priced rifles to keep it fair. Budget rifle battles. The average guy looking for an affordable rifle will appreciate it. Thanks for sharing.
    My bet was on the Remington 783 also with the 700 series action and barrel but if the mag does not feed ammo that quality action and barrel makes no difference. Winchester XPR seems to be the winner due to reliability. If Remington straightens out the mag then that might be the winner. Remington is owned by Freedom Group and as a result of corporate tinkering with proven designs, has now declared bankruptcy. I have a Remington 700 BDL in .222 from before Remington was bought out and it is an outstanding rifle. Savage who is known for a reputation of accuracy in last place and I have two Axis rifles. Both had to have the flexible plastic stocks removed and replaced with aftermarket Boyds wood gun stocks and trigger jobs done to both. Now they are very good rifles. But we are talking about budget rifles that are about the cheapest on the US market so I expected to have to do some work on them to get them right. Savage is the cheapest of all three at $269 basic Axis rifle only. They were not horrible out of the box and are hunter accurate but certainly not bench rifles without stock replacements and trigger jobs. I have previously had an old Savage 110 so I know Savage rifles are very accurate.

  • @borisbuliak3626
    @borisbuliak3626 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for an honest review, loved the looks like a toy comment on the savage. Some times one is better off waiting and saving up for a better firearm.

  • @mattporter3218
    @mattporter3218 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I own both a remington 783 and a winchester xpr. The remington is in 22-250 and its my go to for coyote hunting and will be til its to old and worn to shoot anymore. I did have 2 more in 308 and 300wm and found the heavier calibers didnt perform as well as my 22-250. Still good rifles but my xpr is a 308 and its an absolute tack driver and havent had a single complaint yet.

  • @ED-od6hy
    @ED-od6hy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Winchester is made in Portugal, I believe, which would explain why it is the cheapest in the U.K., and the most expensive in the U.S.

    • @MrJasoncklein
      @MrJasoncklein 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That UK Savage price is awful.

    • @ED-od6hy
      @ED-od6hy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Everything that ever existed is nothing Oliver Winchester and his original Winchester Repeating Arms Co. were American. However, Winchester, the brand name, has been licensed for production overseas to places like Portugal. Still good products, but not necessarily made here.

  • @BradleyJohnHunt
    @BradleyJohnHunt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Could you do a similar test, but of rifles in the 500-1000 bracket?

  • @zapszapper9105
    @zapszapper9105 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love the road in the back ground

    • @XIXjlo
      @XIXjlo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Think I see a building as well on the left. Wow.

  • @stephenbrown5844
    @stephenbrown5844 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks guys for the footage realy enjoyed the test👍😉

  • @danielhoffman2199
    @danielhoffman2199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love the suppressor called a "moderator"

  • @johnstacy7902
    @johnstacy7902 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    you can change barrels on the Savage pretty easy

  • @Notreallyme377
    @Notreallyme377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No discussion of accuracy? Come on guys, that's an important feature of any firearm.

  • @cvcoco
    @cvcoco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the Mauser 18 needs to be in all such comparisons now since the review market is saturated with the "usual suspects" which we just churn around in circles and dont learn anything to help zero a choice. I wish the makers would organize a field day to let shooters come and test them all for themselves. As you say, its not like we can take each home for two weeks and try them before buying. This is supposed to be the work of reviews but the reviews become lacking because each shooter has different desires and needs. Ive looked at so many .308 hunting vids and from them im unable to make a choice because when you think you have enough to make a decision, here comes the next vid that says your proposed choice is rubbish. Reviews are all we have and they have to be excellent to be worthwhile.

  • @rickmelhuish1602
    @rickmelhuish1602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    260 is a legend

  • @cmillerphotos
    @cmillerphotos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Got a good deal on a Savage Axis XP. Now... What bipod do you guys recommend? :-)

  • @MrNiceKnife
    @MrNiceKnife 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That suppressor sounds great!

  • @Hill_Billy_Without_A_Hill
    @Hill_Billy_Without_A_Hill 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    They need to include Ruger American Rifle

    • @trevorgomez3343
      @trevorgomez3343 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Should have done these 4; Remington 783, Ruger American, Savage Axis, Mossberg Patriot.

    • @Hill_Billy_Without_A_Hill
      @Hill_Billy_Without_A_Hill 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trevorgomez3343 I will say, the Mossberg Patriot appears nice until you see how action mates to stock. Very week design. Of all of them, they seem to be lesser quality. Hear they shoot well, but I wont consider one, until they improve that. Maybe a chassis stock version would be better.

    • @ikesteroma
      @ikesteroma 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can agree to that, but only if the Brits promise to pronounce it 'Murica. Heh, heh.

  • @iangarcia5242
    @iangarcia5242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    me in mexico: winchester xpr 1.500k dlrs

  • @Farmer_scoobs
    @Farmer_scoobs 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    A 243 Remington in Ireland is 1000€

    • @clementroubaud9361
      @clementroubaud9361 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      scoobydoonoel Bought that same Remington in the US for less than $240 (208€). I don’t think I’d be spending 1000€ on that though!

    • @glockeva1
      @glockeva1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      €1000 is a rip off

    • @Hartwig870
      @Hartwig870 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I can buy 6 for that much.

  • @NovaDexter
    @NovaDexter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought the savage axis for $679 Canadian

  • @aryanpugilist
    @aryanpugilist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really want to get into hunting, but have no idea if I can even get a gun? Are there some that anyone can get and others that you need more paperwork for?

  • @gogabaqradze2115
    @gogabaqradze2115 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good job. But,i would like to see accuracy on the paper.

  • @lukedontknow9283
    @lukedontknow9283 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m surprised no one in the comments mentioned the mosin or k31

  • @damigotit1052
    @damigotit1052 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What is the scope used on the Winchester XPR. Thanks much!

  • @johnisabeth2504
    @johnisabeth2504 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where is the Mauser m18 and the sauer 100 classic

  • @davidminnock252
    @davidminnock252 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And I was going to buy the savage next week 🙈

    • @glockeva1
      @glockeva1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      David Minnock I've owned a savage axis and now own a xpr in .308 and in my view the xpr is better, but the axis was a very usable rifle also

    • @jasonmark1665
      @jasonmark1665 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Buy a Howa

  • @brianhof7599
    @brianhof7599 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not pick the best of the three in 243?

  • @jalalalap-akalala
    @jalalalap-akalala ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't even know we could own these in the uk

  • @sudo_nym
    @sudo_nym 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah, that's where Mark has got to. I wondered why we hadn't seen any RIPS videos lately.

  • @imnotimportant
    @imnotimportant 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The savage is that much more expensive than the rest over there? Why?? Here in the USA the savage is by far the cheapest out of the 3. it's $350 here in USA, with scope (xp package). I think that's 250 pounds? It really cost you guys 750 (over $1000 usd)? The savage 1 (without accutrigger) in the XP package is $299

    • @jozefhorvat3625
      @jozefhorvat3625 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shiddy In UK is everything fucking expensive. More expensive than in continental Europe.

    • @Jolbotti
      @Jolbotti 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pound effects the price, importer takes from between and maybe UK has higher tax rate on weapons. So no wonder.

  • @mikelipsey8837
    @mikelipsey8837 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Today, I think the answer to this question would be the Mauser M18 in 6.5 PRC.

  • @stewp.3298
    @stewp.3298 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Leave it to the English to provide a useful and entertaining gun comparison. Thank you.

  • @morazan1990
    @morazan1990 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much is £500 in us dollars? What do you need to buy a rifle in UK, how hard is it? What kind of animals do you mostly hunt in UK? Do they come with the sound suppressor?

    • @fieldsportstv
      @fieldsportstv  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      £500 = just under US$700, you need a gun licence in the UK (600,000 of us have one, so it's not hard). Suppressors are common here, usually sold separately. We are mainly a bird-hunting nation but we have good deer stalking - 6 species - and pest control including foxes and rabbits.

  • @jasonmark1665
    @jasonmark1665 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Howa the best value for sure. Why no Howa

  • @johnfila6480
    @johnfila6480 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    why wasnt the winchester in 243 also??

    • @sinboy26
      @sinboy26 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      last i knew win dosent come in 243

    • @sinboy26
      @sinboy26 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      your right it does come in 243, i thouht 243 wasnt availabli in that model but it is @GAY ASS HITLER

  • @Danny.D93
    @Danny.D93 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    you guys are allowed silencers in the uk?

    • @innesmacleod
      @innesmacleod 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Aidan McInnis silencers are readily available in the UK, you must register them on your firearms certificate and have a reason for one. But most police forces will accept hearing protection. But overall most rifles in the UK will have mod's.

    • @glockeva1
      @glockeva1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes we are allowed them but you must apply to have them added to your license and give good reason to have one, quoting noise reducing on the application works well and is a valid reason

  • @rileytaylor1206
    @rileytaylor1206 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    let's put our fingers on the trigger everything we shoulder each rifle now..

  • @ammcknockiter
    @ammcknockiter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder in 2024 can we still get similar deals

  • @johnfila6480
    @johnfila6480 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i tried the 783 and wasnt impressed

  • @Hartwig870
    @Hartwig870 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whats with all the bi pods?

    • @evanmarks7912
      @evanmarks7912 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Justin they can’t shoot

    • @JBinthesticks
      @JBinthesticks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you need to look up Mark Ripley's channel '260 rips' and reassess your comment.

  • @wonderoushistoryofclassicf9193
    @wonderoushistoryofclassicf9193 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do the UK shooters think of CZ.

    • @fieldsportstv
      @fieldsportstv  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Popular, especially the rimfires

    • @wonderoushistoryofclassicf9193
      @wonderoushistoryofclassicf9193 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fieldsports Channel appreciate the reply. Only asking because it's not a well known brand in the US

    • @borisbuliak3626
      @borisbuliak3626 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a CZ 455 .22lr and the wood is so beautiful am afraid to shoot it. Just kidding! You and I maybe a little late for the rifles from CZ, they've stopped making any mauser action rifles unless they're the heavy magnum safari rifles, or mini mauser like 7.62x39, .223, .22 hornet, 6.5 Grendel. All 30-06, 270, 6x5x55, 243 rifles in FS and 550 American discontinued, there are still retailers selling this brand new rifles. I would scoop them up. Great value, and they don't make em anymore, what could be wrong?

  • @irinelmenghita1710
    @irinelmenghita1710 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bună seara cât costă o armă?

  • @TheAcworthdude
    @TheAcworthdude 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the laws like in the UK to buy and sale used firearms ?

    • @fieldsportstv
      @fieldsportstv  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You need a licence and the transaction has to take place via a Registered Firearm Dealer. / Charlie

  • @francescoceglie4858
    @francescoceglie4858 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ottimo video !!! Quale é la migliore delle 3?

  • @JettyDeke
    @JettyDeke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    .... They lost me when I watched them load a double stack, dual feeding position mag incorrectly.....

  • @pedroq.verdun5816
    @pedroq.verdun5816 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alguien me puede explicar la reglamentacion de armas del Reino Unido? Pense que no se podia adquirir rifles de caza

  • @JBinthesticks
    @JBinthesticks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RCO's nightmare.
    Rifle shooters mounting the rifle as if it were a shotgun.
    Nooooooo!🙂

  • @NeedsMoreToys
    @NeedsMoreToys 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Experienced shooters who close one eye?

    • @evanmarks7912
      @evanmarks7912 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Needs More Toys and use the reticle focus for whatever the hell he was doing, and doesn’t know how to load a magazine, couldn’t watch the whole thing

  • @ashman0071
    @ashman0071 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    what about asking them is they'd rather just keep the 500 quid and look elsewhere ?

  • @TechnikMeister2
    @TechnikMeister2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They are all garbage. And you can't give them away second hand. For me the best value on the market today is the Mauser M18.

  • @serverlan763
    @serverlan763 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would suggest a second hand Tikka or older Remington model 700 than one of those cheap and nasty rifles...

    • @aaronrollo7370
      @aaronrollo7370 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love my "nasty" XPR. I've gotten 3 elk, a cougar, and a ram with it and it's worked flawlessly. Got it on sale for $450 as well. My friends use far more expensive rifles and I keep up with them no problem.

    • @solidrockofjesuschristmini2423
      @solidrockofjesuschristmini2423 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@aaronrollo7370😂 I got an xpr in 7mm rem mag for 450 and threw on a burris scope and it's a tack driver, it's definitely going to stay as my hunting gun, it's light, and if I scratch it it's all good, they got nice stocks for them now too

  • @4fingerfrankie
    @4fingerfrankie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kentucky windage 🤔

  • @IvanRossS
    @IvanRossS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol. What's language they speaking? :)

  • @AlphaSAS
    @AlphaSAS ปีที่แล้ว

    The bloke in the beginning talks complete and utter nonsense. "pointability".

  • @Hill_Billy_Without_A_Hill
    @Hill_Billy_Without_A_Hill 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wouldnt even consider a Remington product. They make a lot or junk now, and have for quit a few years.