Pathfinder: WotR | DLC Guide - Overview, Rankings, When To Play Each
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2024
- Talking about what each paid DLC is and adds to the game, my personal rankings for them all, and when each one fits into the games campaign overall.
Timestamps
00:00 Intro
01:19 Inevitable Excess
04:36 Treasure of the Midnight Isles
06:16 The Last Sarkorians
07:11 Lord of Nothing
09:23 A Dance Of Masks
11:04 Through The Ashes
13:28 Summary/When To Play Each
17:10 Wrap Up
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I came for Pathfinder content and Guides, and so i stay for everything you do. I like the way you produce you're content how you put work hours in it. And your're way of thinking speaks for it self. Thank you Morti
Hard agree.
100% agree… I even watch his content on stuff I never intend to play just because it’s Mort
Little correction about Treasure of the Midnight Isle. It doesn't unlock a dungeon in act 5, the unlock of the dungeon is staggered. Part 1 is Act 3, Part 2 is Act 4 and Part 3 is Act 5. You can complete it in one go in Act 5, however you can also do it pieces (which I prefer, I get bored by the end of a set of islands).
Yeah the only thing is I believe a lot of people miss the fact that you need to spend X days in the different acts before it unlocks which is probably why a lot of people misses when it's unlocked. You need to sleep/pass 18 days in act 3 to unlock part 1, no sleep/pass of days required in act 4 for part 2 but for part 3 you need to sleep/pass 4 days in act 5. No clue why they did this and there is no explanation or information given about this in game from what I remember.
I loved 'Through the Ashes'. The possibilities to play it through. The NPC you can save, all with their own little stories. No fights which you can just bruteforce through. Making use with the little loot you get. The rush, when I got a masterwork greatsword, which is almost a throw away item in the maingame. But you celebrate every little victory. Amazing DLC.
I think Through the Ashes was my favaurite bit of the whole game, gritty high-stakes from the an ordinary person's perspective.
I loved 'Through the Ashes' too. Nice to get a different perspective on the attack on Kenabres.
Hey Morty! I would love to see a video about party comps, different suggestions based on your character class/role, specific alignment comps, and which characters go well together. I feel like I’ve never seen a good video around that
I have played this game extensively, so I don't really need such a guide, yet I am always excited when you post anything on WotR and am going to watch them all nonetheless!
I will note that the Treasure of the Midnight Isles becomes available in Act 3 and continues in Act 4, with the finish in Act 5. I think the wording in the video might have been a little vague. Otherwise, great video as always. Recently finished my 3rd playthrough, as well as playing through the newly released DLC. Love the love the game is getting from so many people now.
I will add that to access it in Act 3 and 5 you have to go to the Murky Grotto. To access it in Act 4, you have to go to the Nondescript Pier in the first area of the city. I am not sure if you can do all 3 phases of the DLC in Act 5, but I strongly recommend doing them in their respective Acts. This splits up the dungeon crawling into smaller segments throughout the game and makes the tedium more managable, if you are not a fan of just fighting enemies for hours straight.
I'm playing this DLC now and it's as boring as Beneath the Stolen Lands with just a cool bos with a bit of mystery at the end. I think it's mainly aimed at people who like to test builds. DLC in WotR also has nasty achievements, some rng.
This guy has the most informative videos on everything Games he deserves all the props and i watch everything put out there for a reason
I have 6 weeks vacation, I ll do this game finally, have it in steam with all dlcs
Gonna need more than 6 weeks! That’s awesome man… I really hope you enjoy your time with this gem! Try not to get discouraged and overwhelmed and just take it slow
@@kudzukid12 yeah. i ll start with Through The Ashes. I have played main to chapter 3 but had no time to continue
6 weeks might be enough to get out of the character creation, GL.
I regret to inform you, you are NOT finishing in 6 weeks
@@maxmach4361😂😂 agreed
Started watching your content three years ago. Now that all DLCs are out I will finally do my first playtrough of Warth of the Righteous!
What build are you using?
I was just last night reloading the game with all DLC and thought “okay what order should I do this”. Perfect timing!!!
I didn't know I needed a video like this. Thank you for this
You were the one who got me into this game, stumbled upon a video you made about pathfinder and it was the first video of yours i have ever seen, thanks to you I'm over a hundred hours in the game, probably in my top 3 favorite games of all time, and you became my favorite TH-camr as well!
Found this channel from the Pathfinder content and have loved seeing it achieve greater success since. I'll probably be waiting a bit to replay WOTR with all of the DLC because I burnt myself out on the game a bit with 3 full playthroughs (rookie numbers for Mort I know). But I'll always love it. The Owlcat games were the CRPGs I had been craving since NWN2.
bro has peak timing, i just started playing this with every DLC. thank you very much.
Thanks, Mort, this video was what I was waiting for before starting my first run of this game. I was really confused about the DLC and you've managed to make it easier for me to understand. Thanks a lot!
Been looking for a guide on the DLCs, very informative
Thanks for the guide on when to play them! Very helpful. I'll keep this vid on hand for when I finally play.
Great content! I found this channel because os WOTR, and since then became your fan! Keep up the good work, and know that you have a fan all the way here in Brazil!
Congrats!
Just came here to say love your channel, love that you do, and I try to wander in wisdom. Thank you!
Thank you. That was extremely helpful. I always agonize over the order and fear of being locked out of something. You rock!
Man you are my hero I just got the game with all the dlc in one go and had no idea what I was supposed to do with it this is very informative
exactly what I was looking for. Thanks.
Thank you for the video! It helps a lot and was exactly what I needed to do my new playthrough
Just bought the game and all dlc's on GOG :) on sale atm. So this guide was perfect. New to the game only played like 12 h.. But loving it so far.
Treasures of the Midnight Isles is far and away my favorite of the bunch. I loved the same roguelite DLC for Kingmaker which was still very rudimentary and basic but probably accounted for half of my playtime in that game. And this one just improved it on all levels. I just love that I get to build all of my characters for the standalone playthroughs. Reminds me of Icewind Dale. And I get to fully experience all of those more eccentric builds that I would otherwise never try. Because when I replay the main campaign I always get overwhelmed by all my choices since I have to nail myself down on one single class and build that I will end up married to for 140 hours, and that then often leads to me restarting somewhere in act I because this build I picked isn't quite what I expected.
Having 5 characters to build is so much more enjoyable to me and locks me in neatly. I did fun off the cuff things like have a party of all-Dhampirs with undead animal companions that could use harm spells to heal. Or having 5 gnomes/halflings to have a party of under 4 foot tall. And this mode is pretty much infinitely replayable too.
Very helpful, thanks
Might be the best RPG ever. The turn based / real time combat button changed everything for me
Thanks for letting me know the order when to play the dlc! Makes everything less confusing!
This was very informative on which dlcs i should have. Thanks!
I'm a big fan of DLC Guides so keep em coming ‼️
I really appreciate all the work you do for WoTR (one of my favorite games) because finding stuff online like a wiki is an exercise in futility.
you and i enjoyed Through the Ashes for the exact same reasons; I *loved* it!
I wish more of the dlc were integrated in the main campaign and not being stand alone campaigns. If every dlc has subclasses, a companion or expansion of current companions and dungeon/quest I would have gotten them all.
Thanks for another great video!
I'm seriously thinking about trying to get into Pathfinder cause it seems so much like an in-depth game!
Playing through a new full run now! The new Arcanist archetype from Dance of Masks is nearly a whole new class! ❤
Thanks for the vid mort, have always wondered when to do dlc during story.
i really hope they could make the roguelike part more huge than it is now. Imagine having building an entire party, facing enemy that's is random generated everytime. The trial and error would be so addicting.
I will say inevitable excess is also fantastic to check end game builds, because you can test them out at end game right away to make sure everything works together how you think.
Through the Ashes is easily my favorite Owlcat DLC. It pulled off the underpowered, resource-constrained, survival-oriented CRPG better than I’ve ever seen it done. It was incredibly balanced and I wish there was a full length game with that same vibe.
I beat WotR twice but have not gotten into any of the DLCs as I needed a break from the game. This video is just what I needed, especially since the summer sale starts tomorrow.
This video is exactly what I need it since i wanted to play all dlcs but didnt know which one first.Pathfinder has replaced Final Fantasy games.It's my top RPG of last decade.Thanks for your videos.
I'm actually starting my first playthrough with Through the Ashes. I'm already a veteran of both Kingmaker and the tabletop game so I know what I'm doing in terms of mechanics (indeed, I own the original Wrath of the Righteous adventure path), and to me it seems logical to do the low-end story before proceeding to the main event.
Regarding Inevitable Excess - you can get a completed save from someone else and get the bonus content for the main campaign without the pain.
Your video is very serendipitous as I am currently in the weeds of Act 3! I can live without the Act 1 rod for this playthrough, so I'm looking forward to the more endgame-oriented DLCs.
I wonder if another RPG developer will ever release a toolset like the one we got for Neverwinter Nights 1. I'd love to see what kind of modules creatives could come up with if they had easy access to everything they needed from WotR.
To clarify in case somebody needs it:
Season Pass 1 would be: Excess, Ashes, Treasure (ranked last, second to last and first)
Season Pass 2 would be the other three.
This leads to 4 reasonable purchasing options:
a) Stingy Edition: Only the base game (12$/€)
b) Consensus Edition: Base game + Season Pass 2 (29.40 Eurodollars; all the well-reviewed stuff)
c) Mortym Super Fan Edition: Base game + SP2 + Ashes (34.60 Currencies; Mortym's favorite DLCs)
d) Complete Edition: Base game + SP1 + SP2 (38.10 not-pounds; slightly more expensive, only adds stuff almost everyone hates)
Personally, I went with option b. If I ever get bored with that, I could always add SP1 later.
I think I stopped my only WotR run somewhere in Act 2. It was for a lot of reasons (none of them being that I thought it was a bad game), but one reason is that I wasn't crazy about the class I picked. I might get the Midnight Isle DLC whenever I decide to try it again, just to test out a few classes.
The way i was finishing up my first play through of the main game when mignight isles came out and it distracted me so much that I doubled my play time and to this day still haven’t finished that first save 😭. Idk it’s simple but I love that mode.
i just finish my first playthrough(Azata), i didn't know if I will want the DLC but man, i gonna finish this game again :)
LOL I wondered why you liked my comment yesterday but didn't reply to it. Now I know. Mort, you're a beautiful man and don't let anyone tell you otherwise !!
I just started playing this, what a great timing. Thanks for sharing. 👍
Thanks again for all you do Mortim, love your content.
Looking good.
I actually took and modified the mythic path system for my own table top game I'm running.
The bigest issue i have with through the ashes is the artificial dificulty brought by most weapons given being broken and borderline useless. Without that is still dificult and requires carefulness, but feels less like bashing your head agaist a wall
Midnight Isles was excelent at easing me into the Pathfinder system until I felt confident enough to play on Core.
I came from BG3 looking for challenge and build variety, and that's exactly what it gave me. I'm looking forward to experience the rest.
F*ck, I cannot believe I needed this info! Thank you! (I was too lazy to search online for the order of the dlcs 🤣😅)
Through the Ashes absolutely deserves more praise, and especially when it was released, was the perfect palate cleanser before yet another mythic-powered run through main campaign.
Let's go
Oh thank you for this. I had been thinking of going back to Wrath now that all the DLC was out, and it's nice to know the best timing for everything.
I'm also going to be curious how Through the Ashes stacks up to Varnhold's Lot in difficulty since it sounds like it has similar scarcity mechanics. (As while I loved the story in that DLC--especially Maegar's incredibly adorable romance--the combat was brutal enough due to the lower item availability that it was a serious challenge to beat.)
My own order of DLCs that I'll be going for as I play the game for the second time, before I played with no DLCs (and this time on Core):
Base game prologue
Through the Ashes
Base game act 1
Inevitable Excess with my old character
Base game acts 2-3
Lord of Nothing
Base game acts 4-5 (with Midnight Isles)
Thanks for the video. Those DLCs don't seem like they can be beaten by a potato... Onward to 400k. All glory to the algorithm.
Thank you. That spares me all the usual reearch, when I decide to play the game. And following you for some time I know that I can trust your advice and opinions. Could you also do a non spoilery "what you have to know" for first time players. Which speels are essential. Important things the game does not tell you. Traps you can fall into when playing the crusades minigame. Or maybe general hints and advices for companions or specific quests, that might upset you because of poor design choices if you find out too late. assumed WotR has such things like kingmaker has. 😊
Another through the ashes enjoyer, by far my favortie dlc. As much as i enjoy the power fantasy of the base game ive always been a bigger fan of lower fantasy high lethality games.
My favorite tabletop sessions ive ever played were in Warhammer Fantasy RPG and the prompt was you are all peasants of some sort(have to pick a t1 peasant profession like farmer) and on the way back from market one day you were ransacked and pulled into skaven infested sewers, while transporting you the skaven were killed by something bigger, your goal survive and escape.
Pretty much the same ranking for me, except swapping Dance and Sarkorians. I really like the NPC
Awesome video, thank you!
One question, Is it possible to still pick up the new companion from ‘The last of the Sarkorians’ if you are already past act1?
Yeah
Yeah, Through the Ashes was sick and I wish it was a bit longer, especially with how much part 2 pivoted in "vibe".
Oh I cannot wait for the story supercut for this now that all the DLC is out. What mythic path are you running for your "last hurrah" playthrough?
Azata for the primary one, have to run through all of them a little for the video though
Imho, Through the Ashes is better to play just after act 1 since you just went through the Kenabres attack and Lord of Nothing should be played during act 4 time skip as it makes a lot of sense in the time line.
Great review as always !
Do I play Pathfinder? Nope. Do I watch the entire game all the way through though cuz it’s Mort? Hell yeah!
I’m shocked people didn’t like through the ashes. It’s so well written and a great contrast to the main story characters.
Off topic but I'd love to see a video someday on the Game of Thrones RPG from 2012 by Cyanide Studio! It's got a very interesting narrative and from a gameplay standpoint I found it reminiscent of Dragon Age Origins. It's not a great game by any means but if you're into A Song of Ice and Fire and/or Game of Thrones it's absolutely worth checking out
I would definitely rank LoN over TtA. Like the bosses fight in the base LoN are one of the best in the whole franchise.
100 hours and i still feel lost at times. Im not a numbers person so crpgs are alwags a challenge. Thanks for your videos.
Shame they never expanded on the Crusade Army mode, was hoping for stand-alone scenario for that gameplay so you figure it out without having to constantly have to switch back and forth between that and the main game.
Good information! I will ignore all of it 🔥
Do you recomend testing builds in Midnight Isle before starting a campaign?
Yeah absolutely, most useful thing about it imo
Game took me 200 hours without DLC. I don't need more content XD
Is there a spoiler-free or vague summary of when to play each DLC? I haven't played this game before but plan to.
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is there a rank, lorewise, for the mythic paths? like which mythic path gives you the most information about the world and such? i only played as aeon, then became a devil, then was surprised to see i could not corrupt galfrey and the end choices were bugged, so i only got a one unsatisfying ending and now, i can play the whole thing again
Angel is the most fleshed out for sure, but I'd say Gold Dragon is really the only one that disappoints these days. Devil has granted more content now.
You make me want to be a better...PF:WoTR player Mort! I want to update to the latest exp/dlc and start a new game...yet again. And I still haven't finished the game fully lol!
Could you explain how to get the ultra version of the Sithhud fight? Haven't been able to find anything on it
Bad Lord of Nothing ending basically, just got to let him recover the shards by either losing the final fight or siding with him
Do any of these DLCs add new ending slides, especially about companions?
Well Ulbrig of course, since he wasn't in the original version, thats the main thing. The enhanced edition a while back added some I believe but that was free
Excellent ranking! Really disliked inevitable excess - couldn't even finish it. Guess there is a reason to though! Almost want to put Treasure Isles to the side though cause I love love testing builds!
Through the Ashes wasn't bad at all - I quite enjoyed it... after I decided I need to replay first few hours cause character I made to be more rp-y needs to change into something more op to survive.
I might actually replay Through the Ashes/Lord of Nothing after my current playthrough just to make next big playthrough harder - all the icecreams for the icecream god :D
I've finished the first act. Then, maybe I'll play the first dlc and then continue in the main story,
Doesn't Inevitable Excess add more stuff to the main campaign if you beat the secret boss in Unfair also?
Yep, it does. The midnight fane's belt gets upgraded to the somewhat powerful +8 and increased crit range belt if you do.
@@cpugwash7085 glad to hear I did not summoned 20 Elder elementals for nothing
IE was the opposite of what player base wanted. It was focused on super late game content (after 500h i still hate super early and super late gameplay of wotr) and rather then "after story" everyone wanted we got "simulation inside the simulation" plotline.
That being said I really like all of the IE endings. Especially the lawful ending with my true aeon that romanced arushael (at least in this one run they got their happy ending). That plus IE actually have some interaction with romance companion (not many of them tho)
What are you thoughts about a DEMON mythic path playthrough now that the final DLC is here and the game is done. Is it worth it overall or will i be disappointed compared to the ANGLE mythic path? I'm keen to see how the game changes with an evil playthrough but realistically if it's 60 hours to get 30m of unique events that'll be a huge drag
I think the only one thats a bit of a let down atm is Gold Dragon but rumor says they still plan on a last free update to fix that. So yeah I think its worth it
I wonder if I should continue my old playthrough, or start a new one. Will I miss out on stuff from e.g. Last Sarkorians ?
Everything that affects the main story can for the most part be enjoyed with your current playthrough. Last Sarkorians for instance can all be done in Act 5 if you want
Hey, I'd like to try Pathfinder WOTR, should I get GOG or Steam version ? And what edition should I buy if I want to get all the DLC?
Wont make much difference either way, and I believe the Mythic edition + season pass 2 gets everything atm. Dont think theyve released like a 'definitive' version yet
@MortismalGaming Thank you kindly sir! I've been on the fence for about a year for this, so a new DLC and a video from you explaining all the DLCs really makes me wanna play it this summer
I only bought the dance of Masks dlc so far for the extra content with your companions. The last Sarkosian could be interesting but I have my doubts that this Ulric is well integrated into the base game. Does he have a lot of back and forth with your other companions? I wasn't that impressed with the extra companion dlc in Kingmaker. Anyway, thanks for this video 🙂.
Fully integrated yeah
Is Inevitable Excess worth if you dont really care about the buff? Is the connection between Through the Ashes and Lord of Nothing strong? Are they just NPCS or playable in the campaign and do they connect story wise or just mechanically. Otherwise only season pass 2 sounds interesting imo.
IE depends on you really, its the most stand alone of all of these though. TtA and LoN do connect together very well yeah
Do the controls work well on ps5? On the fence about buying this game but the difficulty also pushes me away a little.
Havent tried, but Ive heard mixed things
Here's a question, in the US is it called Sidewalkfinder?
Paizo is a US company who named their monthly ttrpg dungeon magazine Pathfinder Adventure Path in 2007, after losing the license to publish D&D magazines, because Pathfinder means a person who scouts ahead to show others the path like say scouting a dungeon. This is before officially publishing Pathfinder 1e in 2009. So no, it is not.
I haven't bought this game yet. I probably will wait for a definitive edition to be released and grab them all at one price.
I was, literally I kid you not, just looking up info on WOTR to revisit the game since when I played it on launch it was a real bug fest. Pathfinder kinda goes over my head so was looking into some help for builds and the like
Only thing I don't like of some of these DLC that are played with the vanilla game characters is that they unbalance the main campaign. Doing all DLC easily takes you a few levels up the expected level in the campaign, which has a massive impact in difficulty. So I suggest to use mods. to set experience multiplier to x0 when you are playing them.
Only played Through the Ashes and i loved it. Got bored with Inevitable excess and didn't finish it but i only finished the game once. I always get annoyed in the 4th act.