MASCHINE vs MPC2000XL vs S950 vs SP1200
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ต.ค. 2024
- Drumbreak used: Skull Snaps - Its A New Day (Source: Vinyl)
Sampled in normal speed (CLEAN)
Sampled pitched up and pitched down in the machine (PITCHED)
Hardware used:
Native Instruments Maschine MK2 (2012)
Akai MPC 2000 XL (1999)
Akai S950 (1988)
E-mu SP 1200 (1987)
What is YOUR sampling technique on those machines? Which machine do you use? Which do you prefer? And why?
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SP1200 all day, more bounce to the ounce
This is an underrated and in my opinion a resourceful video. Thank you, for taking the time to make it.
DJ BOOM BASH thank you. I tried to precise as possible to represent the samplers soul ;)
I guess it doesn't really matter, that break is dope coming out of any machine!!!
Ken Lee
hahaha yeah bro i feel you! you got to hear what the SP does if sampling and pitching down a sample like a rhodes or something else. do you own an SP?
but besides that, for me personally, the break is the most exciting on the SP. but youre right, the break itself is veryveryvery dope. its my personally favorite!
WASK
Right!
regular: s950
pitch trick: sp1200
thanks for doin' this, wask!
This drum break has been used many times but this is K-Def and Marley Marl BABY!!! They executed this drum loop perfectly for Lords Of The Underground's "Funky Child!" Preemo's version for Gangstarr's "Take It Personal" is a close second in my opinion.
Whats the break?
The mpc was rocking but so was the 1200, now I want one
I actually like the 2000xl it's subtly lofi, people say it sounds bad bug to me it sounds great, I also lovebyhe ASR-10.
1200= more crunch 950 = more thump/boxiness. i personally prefer the s950.
NICE! SP1200 sounded the fattest here, but the MPC sounding a little more tighter/snappier.
The sp give the Kick a more subby base. The Pitched Maschine does the Same Bot Not so powerful. The other sampler make the Sound More powerful but add Not that subby base to the Kick
one thing most people are missing is that the actual difference is in the way your machine sums multiple signals, not how it retranslate one single sound
That‘s right. And also how you use the machine, different workflow, limitations, workarounds.
S950 pitched by far, those meaty lows !
Maschine on clean faired way better than I thought it would! SP1200 sounded the best but considering the extra work/expense, not really motivated to find one.
Really educational thanks!
yeah no problem. the SP is worth it, at least for me ;)
Idk what Im hearing but Maschine sounded fatter to me in sp mode than the 1200...I must be trippin tho
It‘s all about taste
The SP is very fun and inspiring to work on.
Dope asf!
To do this proper you have to start with a Digital full spectrum loop because the point of using these vintage samples is to make digital shit sound more like vinyl or vintage! and you can REALLY hear the different then on how the bass sits and the high end from a digital loop sits. :)
Thank you very much for the video, would be nice to add the mpc 60 to this test.
All four sampler machines sounds very good.
Looking by their price, i think would buy an mpc 2000 or mpc 2000 xl, I would like to know if they both sound the same or not.
s950 seems to lost some low frequencies, but i know this sampler machine is a beast, maybe a bit pricey for my at the moment.
I loved the sound of th SP, really fat bass, but also seems that add some low noise on the background, i guess is a part of the character of this sampler machine. Maybe SP is the best, i think, but not affordable for me.
And, what about the Zoom Sampletrak in terms of sound compared to these machines? what do you think about this little machine?
Thanks for your comment.
I actually own a lot more machines than the test shows. For example i sure got the MPC60/2000XL/2500/3000, Roland MV8000/8800, Sampletrak, SP202/404A/505, Emax, OP-1, and so on, the list continues almost endless ;)
I really like some of the small machines. The sampletrak has a nice workflow and really really nice sound, the sequencer is not the best, but totally useable. I would prefer an MPC or similar for sequencing (resampling) the sampletrak's sound.
SP1200 nice basses. I hope ASR10 would of been to there, as like 22khz to see the actualy difference if any..
Gizmoriderful Ye got an asr10 here, but it is not connected to the setup
ey man... the maschine sp mode pitch sound great. I have maschine 2.... what number pitch or semitones did you put pitch up and pitch down 5.2 or 6 ?
Sau interessantes Video. Ist da Kompression auf den Drums, oder sind die nur normalisiert oderso und springen schon so fett aus dem vinyl? Ansonsten würde mich interessieren wie der loop völlig ohne effekte und filter klingt.
der maschineloop ist völligst frei von irgendwelchen bearbeitungen und wurde direkt von vinyl in maschine gesampled. da maschine kein eigens audiointerface hat ist es durch mein altes recording interface aufgenommen worden in 24 bit. weiter nichts, also so clean wie es geht. das interface selbst verfärbt den klang nicht.
sonst wurde auch nichts bearbeitet, ausser der maschine vintagemode bei einer der 3 maschine spuren. die pitched versionen wurde auf dem plattenteller bei 45+8% recordet und im gerät wieder auf normalgeschwindigkeit runtergepitcht.
peace, WASK
WASKMUSIC Danke für die zusätzilchen Infos. Ich finde die Drums klingen überall als wär Kompression drauf. Findest du allgemeinen, dass nachm samplen mehr druck auf den Drums ist als auffm Vinyl? Von dem was ich auf TH-cam hören konnte, hätte ich die Drums viel flacher erwartet.
i almost hear a breathing or something with the sp1200 on the snare maybe from the aliasing. crazy shit
mashine sounds great for me
smooth & plenty
S950 have missing low end
SP1200 is good
yeah Maschine sounds good but lacks the low end thumb from the SP1200
jau freshes video ! nen sp1200 drumkit wäre nice :D kommen in zukunft noch nen paar tutorials für die maschine ?
Haha danke! Pff keine ahnung mach immer mal was wenn ich zeit hab. Haste was spezielles?
WASK
low end theory ! ich bekomm es einfach nicht hin die bassline aus dem sample zu filtern damit ich keine eigene einspielen muss..allgemein so filter geschichten..ich blick da nicht durch :D und mich würds mal interessieren wie du die akai s950 mit der maschine connectet hast
moltow13 der s950 hängt per midi an der sp1200. wenn ich mal was in der maschine von dem s950 nutzen möchte sample ichs einfach vom 950er in die maschine, hab keine lust ewig midikabel umzustecken hehe aber ansonsten kann man den auch per midi an die maschine hängen.
WASK
WASKMUSIC ah korrekt ! danke
moltow13
kein ding!
wenn noch wat is, sach bescheid!
WASK
I've had all those maschines (and skull snaps vinyls :D), i still got my s950 I use for drums with ableton and lookin for 60 to work wit it, cus i dont like ableton that much. Maschines spmode was so real until i got real sp, i had to sell it soon tho :(
Why sell it?
Whats the problem using the 60 with s950?
No problem at all :D came out wrong. I was broke and got good deal
Do you think an s2000 with nothing but old drum machine samples (clean) can get the job done to make my track sound like it was made 20 years ago? I'm not looking for crazy gritty/crunch I just want that subtle flavor that makes you assume the track was made in the 90s by a house Dj. I understand samplers aren't the only hardware used in the process for this kinda stuff but I'm kinda on a budget. Thanks
yeah i see no point why this shouldnt work. as long as u using a nice sequencer to control the s2000 it should be good ;)
+WASKMUSIC awesome! Can you recommend any cheap sequencers ?
Computer based or hardware based? If computer, which OS?
+Em Wilson windows 10
Give this one a shot
b-step.monoplugs.com/
sp1200 is am dicksten in der pitched variante. fett! aber wieso is der s950 so dünn?
Weil er im Vergleich einfach dünner kommt
The only test I need is a RAW TEST ..
Could you explain what exactly do you want as a RAW test?
What do you mean pitched? Simply pitched up and down?
yes. it is written in the discription.
Sampled in normal speed (CLEAN)
Sampled pitched up and pitched down in the machine (PITCHED)
Hardware used:
Native Instruments Maschine MK2 (2012)
Akai MPC 2000 XL (1999)
Akai S950 (1988)
E-mu SP 1200 (1987)
I think the 1200 had more low end
StoneCold TLawstin yeah for sure, the sp1200 gives definately more low end. also this is in the normal pitchrange, you can get more artifacts if u pitch down even further in the special menu.
WASK
0:30 maschine pitched sp mode vs 1:30 sp pitched
1:00 and 1:10 for sp950
SP...
Would be better if this were blind. Because I think some people are biased coming into this.
Including me.
I’m under the impression of “It doesn’t matter”
It’s the same thing as saying “Van Gough used THIS kind of brush and THIS kind of canvas.”
Anyone outside of this niche community doesn’t really care.
yeah i got you. But otherwise others do care. Like me. ;)
Aha
MPC 2000XL ist unschlagbar!
This test is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT unfortunately....If you want to show the difference between these samplers, a drum loop is the last thing you should sample.... You should have used a actual sample of soul or jazz music and sample at normal speed and then piched DOWN to emphaze the artifacts caused by downsamples ....
da23ad so you are angry about the information i am providing you for free? If you cant hear the artifacts you should get a new pair of ears.
the s950 is the only sampler out of the bunch, the rest are DRUM MACHINES. thats why you use a drum loop to compare the sounds of each one. stfu and go back to fruity loops dumbass