Are China and Russia Waging a New Cold War with the West?
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- In the first of The China-Russia Conversations, Sergey Radchenko, Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies and Asia Society’s Philipp Ivanov discuss the recent history of the China-Russia relationship, what brings Moscow and Beijing together and drives them apart and if the world is on the verge of the Cold War 2.0.
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The question of the subject topic should be "Are the West waging a new cold war with China and Russia"
It is waging a hot War with Russia a mini world war3
It waging a economic n technology war with china
For the two very well educated professionals, both of you should turn the question around. Are the west waging a new cold war with China and Russia
Answer is yes. The highly educated just can't talk straight.
Basically, America is bad and China is good.
Exactly. These 2 guys are still carrying western prejudice,a bit subtlely
@@tonytan6547 they have not grow up
That is the real and existential problem in the west with regards to their so called "experts" on foreign affairs and international relations. They are trapped in their viewpoints that reflect perfectly the narratives that the western regimes want propagated.
Who started all these nonsense ? US !
When do you think it started? 😂
@@ryanwalters6184When Trump began the trade war? 🤣
You got the title wrong, it should be" Is the West Waging a New Cold War with China and Russia".
I suggest Professor Radchenko visit Xinjiang for a status update. The destabilization promoted by the USA (see CIA, NED, et al) failed, and the economic and social development of the region has led to peace and prosperity to a point I can honestly say the separatist movement has failed, and civil society has succeeded. He seems to be an objective and fact oriented thinker, so I do suggest he get an update on the facts.
Why would the CIA want to sabotage a country where American businesses have invested heavily in? Wouldn't that be equivalent to shooting self on the foot? Something doesn't sound right with this argument.
The Chinese version of Russification in Xinjiang succeeded, not local indigenous self reliance. Your characterization of a subdued population is telling. Maybe Russia can use the Chinese model in Ukraine. I guess it just depends on who wins the war.
@@goldengregory1Wouldn't use the term "Russify" when US paved the way for cultural demolition of Hawaii earlier
@@goldengregory1 Maybe colonial masters think alike? Just maybe 😅
@@goldengregory1 Casino, Las Vegas, NV USA show even money Russia take to Dnipao River by end 2023
Not China or Russia, it's the West.
The whole Western domination era is going to an end
The US has 800+ military bases around the world. China has only 1. It is the US we should be worried about. The US has been at war 93% of the time - 227 out of 245 years - since its founding in 1776. i.e. the U.S. has only been at peace for less than 20 years total since its birth.
History teaches us lessons about how it’s easier to blame others than blame ourselves.
The greatest danger we face today is not coming from China and Russia, but the US.
They're paid to look n talk the other way! 😜
Russia invaded Ukraine though
I think it's the whole communism thing that's a problem.
Im soooo worried. Ai coming for you bots. End game is coming. 😂 good luck!
@JameBlack The US toppled the Pro-Russia Ukrainian gov to replace it with a Pro-US Ukrainian gov. Partnering with neonazis, for years they killed many ethnic Russians in Donbass Region. It was the US that started the war by using Ukraine as a proxy. Surprised you don't even know this. Stay off mainstream media propaganda if you want the truth.
"There is nothing more grotesque than a media pushing for war" - Snowdon
Yes. Naturally. The west as always started the fight. So, you must take responsibility for your greed and aggression. 😉
Yes, watch China invade Tiawan a war the west doesn't want.
I think it is the other way around,
@@VectorOfKnowledge cry.
The economic sanction practice by western is to cut off supplies to those "sanctioned" countries, but what China practice is just to choose not to buy from those countries that they dislike, both acts hold different meaning and brought toward different implications.
USA : Please help us to end the Ukraine War so that we can concentrate War in the island of Taiwan with you.
China : Nuts
@@keyboardmanyoutube3189
This is the problem the western power has lost common sense n logic thinking
恶人先告状啊 - The criminal sued the victim
The scoundrel accuses first.
This channel is “asia society” but i see only old white men.
In the grand strategy of a chess game, the Soviet Union lost its king. Now that Europe and the US have driven a predominantly European-facing Russia towards China, this half-baked cold (containment) war now sees China and Russia consolidate with the Global South (through effective institutions such as the BRI, BRICS, SCO, banks and so on, such that the West will suffer rather than Russia or China. The question is when is the pain too great to bear and the gears began to change.
In geopolitics, raw power and geography both matter.
The West has substantial advantages in both.
Exactly ...
Geopolitics, you say?
Russia and China compromise the very "world island" that was identified by McKinder to be the geographical basis of planetary power...whachutalkin' about Willis??
Don't be so sure about this narrative
We have a thick wall built against all you mentioned so no problem, plenty is plenty, we succeed with democratic values and we have the freedom to chose our partners, while other continue to undermine us.
The Quad, the global scare campaign, the Baloon Hysteria... the Huawei Sanctions... I think you've got the polarity wrong.
😂 cope more. China leadership's turnover usa fault too?
Seems like fighting the USA is a bad plan. 😂
@@ryanwalters6184 cope?
@@ryanwalters6184China's leadership sole interest is improving the standard of living of its population. They want to fufil the aspirations of the Chinese people by giving their children a better live than they themselves had in the past.
That is where spent their Trillions of dollars in the last 45 years.
Improving the lives of their population, building up infrastructure, education, health care, increasing their life expectancy.
American leaders only concern is imposing, expanding and retaining American hegemony and domination around the world to the neglect of their own people, national debt and crumbling infrastructure.
These people sent what was the equivalent of the entire Gross Domestic Product of the state of Mississippi to Ukraine help nazis to fight Russians.
However they only sent one time payment of $700 per family to the People of Maui after half of Hawaii bruned to the ground and thousands of people lost their homes and livelihoods.
They did the same thing when the Hurricane destroyed New Orleans and Puerto Rico.
Yet the American people still think their government is right and the good guys and that the governments of Russia and China are evil.
That is an example of the mindset of the average American.
That guy is so brainwashed he doesn't realize all this drama is due to the U.S. that is coping!!
"Are China and Russia Waging a New Cold War with the West?" what a preposterous question!
well educated people usually are also the best liars
Radchenko answered: Russia permanent decline, really, I am not so sure. I would say Russia needs a lot of hard work, luck, and time on its side to climb back to position of power comparable to its hay day the Soviet Union. I would not give up on Russia as YET.
Interviewer asked this: Both parties would avoid a full out war that is between Russia and China today. This is really a silly question asking today. The answer is very good.
Radchenko claims he himself is a Liberal, my comment Russia, Putin and his leadership team DO Not see themselves holding up liberal values in fact strongly rejecting them, just because of that you hold it against them. I think(subjective) majority of Russians see themselves as a traditional Christian country hold up traditional Christain values. And I see no reason for changing them. BTW I live in a Liberal democracy, and I don't like some of the Liberal values.
Agreed sanctions are used by all parties, but the Americans use them Extensively(applied to Many countries they don't like), long period and large numbers(e.g. Iran). I see Russia and China use them only when necessary, when the other party crosses their Red line and/or strongly upset them. They don't use all the time and remove them when the relation is restored.
Finished watching at 22min, so overall a good interview, Radchenko is more balanced in his views then most Russian and China Hawks. I agree with most of them. He should appear more often in other media to voice his more moderate views. I am afraid there are too many hawks flying around and worse still Neo Cons resident in Washington DC.
Who is waging a cold war ??
The framing of the question is absurd. How do you start a conversation when the theme is already steered in a singular direction
Thank you. Interesting and informative discussion.
A very objective and dispassionate analysis. Nice link with the mutual history going back to tsarist times.
Objective? Sad what you people will take
@@imaveze Amazing the difference between astute listener such as yourself vs tom, dick and harry
US is the one we should worry!
Great informative answers. Thank you.
It is not a war between Russia and China on the one side and the Western countries on the other side. It is a much bigger war. It is a war between the Global South (the non-western countries) on one side and the Western countries on the other side. And the fundamental reason for the war lies in the different economic models of the two blocks. Whereas the economic model of the Global South is based on the hard work and ingenuity of their peoples and on trade and peaceful cooperation among countries, the economic model of the Western countries is based on stealing the wealth of the Global South using brute force and other devious means such as lying, cheating, blackmailing, coercion and threats to carry out their robberies.
Yes, what a peaceful continent. That's why a big % of Africans want to migrate to the West. I live in Africa and read your comment to my friends. They had a good laugh.
@@juliarichter6987 The migration is caused by the impoverishment of the African countries, impoverishment which is caused by the European countries which are stealing the wealth of the African countries and are killing the Africans through invasion, bombings and the funding of terrorists.
lol standing is already taken from the title alone. what's the point even to have a conversation
Kevin Rudd and his buddies should have maintained their composure and remained impartial and sincerely respectful... condescending and patronizing tones will get them nowhere... i doubt Wang Yi will ever bother talk to Kevin again at this point🙄
crazy...... China didn't invade any countries within last 40 years... Who bombed Iraq, syrien?
Because they are the good guys, or because they did not have the power?
The problem with these think tanks is the worn-out box models of the world and politics, combined with highly subjective criteria to fill these boxes with propagandistic content. It is a dangerous construct because it does not recognise the current realities in China and Russia, for example. Russia is not a backward economy and China does not have imperialistic and hegemonic tendencies. So, these armchair / arms length critiques are not helpful and it comes across as the promotion of Western exceptionalism.
This added literally nothing to the conversation. Just a rerun of annoying, Brzezinski-esque nonsense.
Yep, you could tell from the title already the assumptions they have, regardless of the history!
Stop the war at EU and middle east first💀
It's the other way around...
Living in the past, move on get your facts from reliable sources
Isnt it the other way around?
Who willfully destroys the UN?
@@juliarichter6987 USA
@@tedwong7037 How?
@@juliarichter6987 the west lead by US is having all those sanctions and containment strategies towards china and now China is initiating a cold war?
@@juliarichter6987 US has invaded Iraq, Libya and many other against the UN resolution.
The professor don’t see Ukraine as USA proxy war. See saw N Korea and China was proxy war. What a flawed answer snd I think he has been living in USA and he has left out lots things that he was talking nonsense. I have no respect for him.
Beijing and Kremlin trolls galore. Nothing better to do.
It call winning man ! HAHA !
LOL Typical Westoid coping with losing their control over the Global narrative!
If Xi stands alongside you , you can do a victory lap 10 times over ! Maybe more haha !
sadly this guy is how old and still dont get it and choose to live in fantasy. its all so wrong. but perhaps like the earlier commenter said: hes pay to look and talk the other way. But who are you fooling? the naive and yourselves are not enough to change reality, wake up already
It's really interesting, the Westoid disinformation campaign being waged against China, where they have a very black and white narrative but if you actually investigate the details for yourself very carefully you realize the Westoids are 99% lying!!!
Asking the wrong questions. The new world is far beyond this nonsense rhetoric.
Zelensky is very right. Russia should be removed from the Security Council.
But not just Russia.. other weak European countries of Security Council too have lost much of their power to bully other nations. They represent old power balances. The time has come to remove all such impotent European countries from the Security Council. Rising newer countries from from Third World countries should be made Permanent veto members of the Security Council instead.
*So one must eject UK, France and Russia immediately from the Security Council. And instead India, Brazil, Nigeria should join immediately* .. others too.
UN is already dead.
What a waste of time.
Propaganda
Total nonsense from this so called historian -!!!