[Dealer Film] 1964 Chevy 2 and Corvair vs Falcon/Valient... the compact car beckons... your 2 stars!

Compact economy? What happened to "low priced"? We've moved onto economy now.... Smaller is better? Chevy also had a v8 in those small cars...
Checy makes it's case with the Chevy 2 and Corvair against the Falcon and Valient in 1964.

[@chip1347]

Valiant blew away the competition. You couldn’t kill the Slant Six!

[@barrycuda3769]

The way I look at it, rocker panels wouldn't need drying out if they were properly sealed and no water could get into them .Cowl fresh air induction works well ,but is an invitation for rust to to set into the most difficult areas of a car to repair, it wouldn't have been so bad if the internal spaces were heavily rust proofed .The '57 Chevrolet had a superior method, by taking in the air around the headlights. Out of the three in six cylinders ,I'd go for the Valiant, but the Chevy 2 would be enticing with the V8 ( but not with a powerglide) ,at least up until the Valiant had the 273 option.

[@autochronicles8667]

The water was supposed to flow down into the rockers(leaks down from the windows and down into the rockers). The drain holes often got clogged or weren't big enough. and the water sat there. Rusting rockers were an issue until the 90s/2000s when they started making them out of plastic :) But was that "planned obsolescence"? or just bad engineering...

[@barrycuda3769]

@@autochronicles8667 Not a great idea that's for sure . With rocker panels, I fix any rust with new metal , then give them a thorough internal rust proof coating, and seam seal them all around.

[@SpockvsMcCoy]

The engineering concept was that an automatic car wash or hand washing with sufficient water down the cowl would rinse the rocker panels of debris...and fresh air would dry the same rocker panels at a driving speed.

[@paulsheehan5010]

The Chevy II, was also called a Pontiac Acadian in Canada.

[@ManfredBuchholz-jm8fb]

You drop a small blk 8 into the Chevy 11 !!! Awesome !! For air was great I had two monza 90 and spider 140 ! Fun ow !

[@johneddy908]

This was obviously before Plymouth introduced the Valiant V8 later in the model year.

[@autochronicles8667]

yeah maybe Chrysler heard complaints from their dealers? or they were just late. These films are typically around winter time. right after the new cars came out.

[@SpockvsMcCoy]

The 4-cylinder engine in the Chevy II was always a very poor seller...but Chevrolet still offered it for several years. The Valiant was considered the best engineered American compact...primarily because of its superior Slant Six engine and torsion bar suspension. The Falcon never excelled in any particular area... but its mainstream design was popular until the arrival of the 1965 Ford Mustang. The Corvair was intended to be a mainstream compact... however, its unorthodox design and quirky handling actually made it much more popular as a modestly priced sporty car (with Corvair 4-Door sedans and wagons being generally poor sellers). In reality, torque is a better measure of an automobile's power than just the horsepower rating. Currently, the Chevy II and Falcon of the mid-1960s are more valuable than the Corvair and Valiant (excluding Barracuda). The convertibles and 2-Door hardtops of all four tend to be the most collectable.

[@gcfifthgear]

Nevertheless, four-cylinder Chevy Iis were sold through 1969. The four was dropped in preparation for the Vega in 1971

[@GoldenGun-Florida]

Another country heard from…

[@gcfifthgear]

Until mid-year 1964, Chevy II had no hardtops; they were dropped at the beginning of the model year to make room, no pun intended, for the Chevelle

[@SpockvsMcCoy]

The Nova convertible and mid-range 300 trim level were dropped for the 1964 model year.

[@loumontcalm3500]

Falcon outsold Corvair 3 to 1 in 1960...Corvair was a sales flop.
...that's why the Chevrolet "Falcon Clone II" was rushed into production

[@autochronicles8667]

Not sure if I would call the Corvair a flop, it was another sportier option for compacts in 64 from GM. It was an option to the Chevy 2 and directed against the VW and other foreign cars coming in the country. More options is/was a good thing :) Nader killed it with his bad press but it had a 9 year run! 1.8 million sold is A lot of cars.

[@loumontcalm3500]

@@autochronicles8667 GM was going to drop Corvair- it was continued in production thru 1969 to spite Nader.
The mid year Monza did infuse sales into Corvair, veering from the original VW fighting economy car idea. However, it's novel drivetrain was relatively expensive to produce, and it had all the air-cooled shortcomings of the VW.

[@autochronicles8667]

It looks like 2-1, Falcon was the leader in 1960, But GM was the leader with Chevy 2 coming out in 62... Man the Rambler got its LUNCH eaten by the big three.. just decimated Rambler.. Corvair actually had a good market share for that time actually. Chrysler would take over in 64-65 with the Valiant-Lancer-Dart...

[@loumontcalm3500]

@@autochronicles8667 Yes. When the '64 Chevelle was introduced, Rambler's market was then completely decimated.

[@nlpnt]

Corvair ate the Renault Dauphine and other, more marginal imports' lunch, only VW was unaffected and posted a sales increase - but so did the full-size Chevy. Falcon took a lot of sales from the big Ford - a lot of Ford loyalists had been wanting a smaller, simpler, modernized Model A for years and the Falcon was it. Dearborn's consolation prizes were the compact sales crown and the fact most of those sales were taken from the low-trim Custom 300 which was mostly a fleet car from that point forward, while their lead in high-margin convertibles and Country Squire wagons was undiminished.

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

61-64 corvair Monza coupe popularized bucket seats, 4 speed, was a sales leader in the luxury bucket seat compact market until the 64.5 mustang stole the bucket seat sporty compac market and the pony car was born but. a pony is a compact horse so was the corvair Monza a pony car ?

[@ACF6180T]

You know it was. Turbo Charged in 1962, Chevrolet's 1st sport coupe, & sedan that offered a 4 on the floor, & bucket seats in 1960. The only other automobile from Chevrolet that offered bucket seats was the Corvette, But that's a sports car. It would not be till 1962 that Chevrolet offered bucket seats in there full size Chevy Impala SS , & 63 for the Nova SS. Just a fun fact.

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

@@ACF6180T 62-64 monza Spyder turbo and turbo was opt on 65-66 corsa

[@ACF6180T]

@@youtubecarspottersguide1 Yes I know; I still own a 1965 Corsa Coupe 180 Turbo.

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

@@ACF6180T nice my dad had a 66 corsa convertible had the 140hp engine it was a blast to drive

[@ACF6180T]

@@youtubecarspottersguide1 Thank You. That's a sweet ride; If it would have been a turbo convertible it would be the most sought after 2nd gen. Corvair ever produced; Because of the low production no. on the last year production of 66 Corsa's, & the last year a turbo was offered on a Corvair model.