[Dealer Film] 1963 Imperial vs Lincoln... Luxury defined... colorized

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  • @woxyroxme
    @woxyroxme ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Virgil Exner really had some crazy designs during his time at Chrysler

    • @autochronicles8667
      @autochronicles8667  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      those vintage floating headlights I can't get onboard with...

  • @friendofdorothy9376
    @friendofdorothy9376 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I’m very surprised they did not mention the dual A/C option on the Imperial. A very desirable accessory here in the south.

    • @tomservo56954
      @tomservo56954 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even in the South then, air conditioning was not inevitable in a luxury car.

  • @mv4463
    @mv4463 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In the 1993 imperial styles mine had 2 spare tires. A full size with extra matching hubcap and a donut space mounted against a rail in back of seat. . A feature not available in the towncar series of the same years. And the air suspension was weight & height adjustable. And had flip headights. That stays clean until needed.

  • @Doug-mc3dd
    @Doug-mc3dd ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The Linc, can pass for an early 70s car, The Chrysler can pass for a late 50s car.

    • @autochronicles8667
      @autochronicles8667  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      those floating headlights... ack... I actually love the rest of the car but those head lights ruined it.

  • @alanmaier
    @alanmaier ปีที่แล้ว +16

    While I am sure the Imperial is the more solid feeling car due to the massive frame they built it in, I'd still lean toward the fresher and more timeless styling of the Lincoln.

    • @autochronicles8667
      @autochronicles8667  ปีที่แล้ว

      the 61-62 are not desireable cars.. those floating headlights... I love the 60 Imperial though...

    • @rickstenquist8831
      @rickstenquist8831 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Lincoln has an attractive, timeless appearance. The Imperial, while decent looking, looks as if they were trying to add every early 1960's little styling geegaw to the car.

  • @genehart261
    @genehart261 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lots of facts and data, my family had a '63 Lincoln. A really fine car that looks contemporary today.

    • @autochronicles8667
      @autochronicles8667  ปีที่แล้ว

      oh the Lincoln certainly held up... That Imperial... well...

  • @carlmontney7916
    @carlmontney7916 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The Lincoln is a far better looking car there's no question about it.

    • @larrynason8716
      @larrynason8716 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you just say the Lincoln was a far better looking car? Really? It looks just like the box my Keds sneakers came in.🤷‍♂️

    • @carlmontney7916
      @carlmontney7916 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@larrynason8716 I remember years ago when my father was looking for a luxury car to replace his 62 Caddy, he looked at both the Lincoln and the Imperial. He did not like the styling on the Imperial whatsoever. I remember even as a young boy it just didn't look right like the front and the back didn't match.

    • @notyourtypicalwatchreview2563
      @notyourtypicalwatchreview2563 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed.

    • @anonlarson2875
      @anonlarson2875 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Agreed. The Imperial looks old in comparison.

  • @nlpnt
    @nlpnt ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The elephant in the room was that Cadillac dominated the luxury market, these two were fighting for table scraps. Ford made money on this generation of Lincoln because of the 2-model line - the sedan base price was halfway between those of a Caddy Sedan de Ville and 60 Special, the convertible firmly in Fleetwood territory. Imperial was still trying to match Cadillac model-for-model and Chryco was lucky if they broke even on the project.

    • @autochronicles8667
      @autochronicles8667  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah Caddy ruled the market thats for sure... I am also pretty sure Chrysler lost a lot of money on Imperial but wanted to keep that luxury brand.

    • @JohnReitz-ps2ct
      @JohnReitz-ps2ct 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think I wouldn't have looked for a leftover 1962 Cadillac.

  • @Doobie1975
    @Doobie1975 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would choose the Imperial because I've always loved the fins and the creative designs of the Imperial's.

    • @autochronicles8667
      @autochronicles8667  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah but those headlights?? 1960 for me :)

  • @MarshallJohnson-f5q
    @MarshallJohnson-f5q 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the dash on the Imperial -- this was the last year of the oval steering wheel, but you can't beat the side slab styling of the Lincoln and the dash style, which they resurrected on the early Navigators.

  • @Chris-v4z
    @Chris-v4z หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anyone who bought the 1963 Imperial was going to be real upset when 1964 models rolled out.

    • @autochronicles8667
      @autochronicles8667  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah end of the hanging headlights... I'm sorry but I can't handle those :)

  • @Astrodomania
    @Astrodomania ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have actually owned both cars. The Lincoln has timeless styling, but it's rear passenger leg room shortage is a serious issue and makes you feel like you are a riding in a much smaller car. That's why Lincoln lengthened the wheelbase in 1964 to adjust for this issue. The Imperial also had a more futuristic dashboard, with push button control for transmission and A/C within easy reach.

  • @jamesfox2579
    @jamesfox2579 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would proudly own AND drive either one of these two Cars over ANY Cars built today!💕

  • @curtiselder6644
    @curtiselder6644 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Many Ford competitors used an unfair trick when comparing acceleration... they would claim that they used the "standard" drive position on the shifter. However, in 1963 (and others), the Ford Cruse-o-matic transmission's "standard" position was "drive 2", not "drive 1". "Drive 1" (small dot) was for snow and sand and started off in 2nd gear, while "drive 2" (circle-dot) started in first gear and shifted through all 3 gears. So, "Drive 1" accelerated much, much slower.

  • @Paramount531
    @Paramount531 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When I hear the term luxury car, the 61-65 Continental comes to mind, the Imperial never does. The 63 is less bizarre looking than previous models, but not much.

    • @autochronicles8667
      @autochronicles8667  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well hardly anyone knows about Imperial but they were no slouches... they were hand built monsters.

  • @donkeyboy585
    @donkeyboy585 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “Draw your own conclusions” about the appearance. Chrysler might as well just said “Suddenly it’s 1960”

  • @saxongreen78
    @saxongreen78 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1963 was most definitely the Silver Standard era...you could choose the stunning Lincoln on style alone, yet still be quite satisfied with the overall quality. Or, you could overlook the odd styling of the Imp and enjoy a true enthusiast's machine. Something for everyone.

  • @motorradmike
    @motorradmike ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This comparison is hilarious.

    • @thomashawkinson7017
      @thomashawkinson7017 ปีที่แล้ว

      100% agreement. The story gave mostly irrelevant points from the consumer perspective. I mean, do people really care about that little back-seat handle or bumper geometry? That movie would not convert the Lincoln buyer to Imp.

    • @sketchydustin8372
      @sketchydustin8372 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thomashawkinson7017 they had to find anything for the salesman even the tinyest advantage they could point out to buyers.

  • @TheArkDoc
    @TheArkDoc ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Those imperials were tanks, but since I am not invading Ukraine at the moment, I'd pick the timeless elegance of the Lincoln Continental. Chrysler made great engines in the day, but their design language stunk. Outside of the 1958 Belvedere / Fury, Chrysler produced a lot of baroque "super busy" styling from the late 50s to the mid-60s, and this 63 Imperial was no exception. The trunk thinks its a 1957 Continental, the fins are a poor-man's 59 Caddy, the headlight design was plucked from 1937, and that grill saw duty on Army trucks of WWII. To many soft curves and abrupt angles in one design.

    • @autochronicles8667
      @autochronicles8667  ปีที่แล้ว

      it was a couple years old. It was a variant of the 60 Imperial which is the best Imperial. It wasn't that busy" and they were still putting trim on vehicles :)

    • @loumontcalm3500
      @loumontcalm3500 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The '59 Cadillac was a panic reaction to the '57 Imperial, not the other way around, but your other points are well taken. The free standing headlights were a return to classic '30's style... purportedly. The '63 Imperial had shaved off the fins which reached maximum height in '61.
      The '61 Continental made everybody stand up and notice. It was a complete sea change in design. The '64 Imperial (design credit goes to Elwood Engel, who also did the '61 Continental) was a nice rendition of the Continental: restyled on the '57 body! Cadillac finally got on board in '65.

  • @ciro356
    @ciro356 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I am one of the few who would have chosen the Imperial over the Lincoln for styling too: at best I find the Continental's shape to be bland, leaning towards being "brick like"
    Oh well, I actually grew to like the 61 Plymouth front end so perhaps I am an outlier 😅

    • @autochronicles8667
      @autochronicles8667  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Imperial is the bolder gamble, and I think it's better looking until you get to those headlights. they flare the fenders to accommodate those headlights... which I don't think many liked. The Lincoln is the safer design thats for sure.

    • @OceanJoe-cy8rx
      @OceanJoe-cy8rx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are definitely an outlier. The 61 Plymouth was hideous, rivalled in ugliness only by the 61 Dodge. Some of these cars grow on us with the passage of time, like the 58-60 Lincolns. I admire your honesty, it was a rough year for Chrysler although the Imperial was handsome for a bloated barge.

    • @ciro356
      @ciro356 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OceanJoe-cy8rx I think it depends on what part of a car's styling matters the most for a person: to me the most important part is certainly the side profile and in particular the proportions: in the two door hardtop body style the Plymouth and Dodge are flawless, a very sloping roofline (even more so than the 57 models!) and balanced hood and trunk volumes. The front and rear ends are "different" from usual but for my personal taste, they are not so bad as to say "those case are hideous". The 61-62 GM full size *pillared sedans* are hideous for my taste, overgown Corvairs 😂

  • @fubarmodelyard1392
    @fubarmodelyard1392 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Imperial is better in every way except one and like the man said, it's a matter of taste. The Lincoln has a timeless shape, like a block of wood. The 64 Imperial mirrors that shape only prettier

  • @allenwayne2033
    @allenwayne2033 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yep, I'm sure the Imp was better in all regards except the one that mattered the most to this customer set: styling. The Linc was near the beginning of it's 61 restyle. The Imp was at the very end of it's, as 64 brought out a newly styled Imp! Also, I imagine Imp was still fighting the poor quality reputation brought on by the 57's being rushed to market. People don't soon forget being screwed by poor quality products, yet manufacturers continue the practice to this day. Marketing rules when engineering should!

    • @autochronicles8667
      @autochronicles8667  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I can't do the floating headlights... I know Exner loved them but no... just no

    • @MisterMikeTexas
      @MisterMikeTexas ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@autochronicles8667Elwood Engle came over from Ford to Chrysler's rescue. The 64 Imperial was much more elegantly-styled thanks to Engle.

    • @thomashawkinson7017
      @thomashawkinson7017 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100% agreement.

  • @kennethanway7979
    @kennethanway7979 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The imperial trunk lid is ugly.

  • @juliancrooks3031
    @juliancrooks3031 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a mopar guy but the Lincoln is a nicer looking car

  • @LearnAboutFlow
    @LearnAboutFlow ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Lincolns averaged like 9 mpg, so there is no way the Imperial, with a bigger engine and huge weight, was averaging 19 mpg.

    • @autochronicles8667
      @autochronicles8667  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that is the "mpg" mileage run... and a mpg run. Meaning they accelerate easy and cruise at highways speed the whole time that maximized mpg(hyper miling). In reality daily driving is probably the same at 9-10 mpg

    • @Friedbrain11
      @Friedbrain11 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My '63 Imperial LeBaron with the high compression 413 with dual inline 4 bbls got 15mpg in town driving and 18mpg on the highway.

  • @nigelgoodwin6954
    @nigelgoodwin6954 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’d buy the Lincoln !

  • @andrerossato5846
    @andrerossato5846 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Imperial is a dinosaur

    • @autochronicles8667
      @autochronicles8667  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah ROAR :) I think the Lincoln was the winner of that year :)

  • @barrycuda3769
    @barrycuda3769 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Imperial is probably overall the better quality car , but it looks old fashioned , and not pretty , the headlights look bizarre .The Lincoln is a more basic body style, but is attractive .I thought there was a 2 door version of this Lincoln?

    • @friendofdorothy9376
      @friendofdorothy9376 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The elegant coupe body style debuted in 1966…or rather came back after the 1960 model year. I’ve always liked coupes…two-doors make for smoother lines.

    • @henrikbirkvad9844
      @henrikbirkvad9844 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2 door version from 1966.

    • @thomashawkinson7017
      @thomashawkinson7017 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. The Lincoln looks like 'Jackie O. Kennedy' and the Imp is all 'Mamie Eisenhower '.

    • @sketchydustin8372
      @sketchydustin8372 ปีที่แล้ว

      true the 62-63 Imperial was a refined vehicle...

  • @stevenwolff6866
    @stevenwolff6866 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 64 Imperial was FAR better looking than the 63. It was designed by Elwood Engel the same person who designed the Continental. If Chrysler wanted to make a favorable comparison they should have waited one more year

  • @UQRXD
    @UQRXD 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So you mean to tell me in 61 years gas mileage has only increased to 25 mpg for big cars.

  • @ronbond6259
    @ronbond6259 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll take BOTH, and it l will wipe and wash and wax: and it STILL isn't a MERCEDES! 😞😄

  • @donkeyboy585
    @donkeyboy585 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Suddenly it’s 1958

  • @doug-Go
    @doug-Go ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Imperial copied Lincoln's styling for 1964.

    • @autochronicles8667
      @autochronicles8667  ปีที่แล้ว

      they were leaderless in 64... just went plain jane since Exner was gone.

    • @Pdraver333
      @Pdraver333 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The styling of the 64 Imperial is usually credited to Elwood Engel, who Chrysler acquired from Ford after he had a hand in the styling of the 61 Continental.

    • @MisterMikeTexas
      @MisterMikeTexas ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@autochronicles8667Earle and Exner kinda stayed past their usefulness. The carryover 50s styling became cartoonish as the 60s got underway. Later in the 60s, Chrysler adopted the sharp Coke-bottle styling across its lineup. The 68 and 69 Chargers especially benefitted from that.

    • @sketchydustin8372
      @sketchydustin8372 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Pdraver333 he would have taken some time to get his influence in the pipeline. The middle ground between Exner health issues and Engel was limbo and random managers trying to figure out what to do.

  • @blacksitearea
    @blacksitearea ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For me, this Imp resembles Mercedes, while this Linc a family fridge does. And also, this Linc is for employee drivers, but not for this car owners.

  • @chiefkikyerass7188
    @chiefkikyerass7188 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lincoln much better looking car, that Imperial, is just down right ugly

    • @autochronicles8667
      @autochronicles8667  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      those floating headlights... yeah questionable choice :)

  • @Friedbrain11
    @Friedbrain11 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Lincoln is an ugly car for sure with no styling to speak of, especially compared to the exquisite Imperial. Wish I had my '63 LeBaron back.