Making Our Ford V10 Sound Like A F1 Engine (Almost) - Ford V10 4V Build Ep. 21
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- It is finally time to fire the V10 in its final configuration, with the equal length headers & 5-1 vortex collectors. Get ready to hear the BEST SOUNDING Ford V10 in the WORLD!
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Hey guys, we've seen the Maisteer videos and he has been a big influence! We are waiting to hear how the steps sound on a car engine like the V12 before we scrap ours and start all over again. The bike engine revving out sounds cool, but kinda apples and oranges. And while there is real physics behind the steps, there are many variables to implement properly, that we are curious to see how he tackles and the results achieved. Definitely have our eyes on it!!!
Everyone saying “stepped headers” can get in the bin. There are more important things happening here.
@@Justins_shed Yep a lot of math and testing that has to be done to do it right. Overall, the concept is the same.
@@Justins_shed 100%, stepped headers are not the key.
don't sleep on superbike engines
Is it even firing like the 5.0 Pre LP Gallardo and the original Ford Triton?
Being a Ford employee for 31 years, I have to say. I'm proud of what you did with the mix of our parts and your own. This is a top notch bad ass build.
This is the stuff ford should have done to every modular engine there should have been a basic version and a outlaw version. It shouldn't take people to do all this custom stuff. Just like the ford explorer 11+ it should have been a eco, and a coyote version. The trakhawk would have been obsolete to many dropped passes for the home team... main drop mustang cobra SS that should have been the standard
@@ranware2779people like us have no place at big wig ford corporate because of statements like this . We get shot down or told we’re too uneducated for the job when we could actually make the company better . The new ford escape for instance wtf are they doing the looks are good but go full blown with it and compete with Subarus I’m talking awd turbo 6 speed factory lift kits the works
@@ranware2779 They have to be able to pass emissions and fuel economy requirements and make a profit. They can't just make whatever they feel like, and unless they think they can meet the sales targets, they're not going to invest in developing and certifying a product. As for the 2011 Explorer, how are you going to put a Coyote into a Volvo transverse FWD platform, short of gutting it and starting over? Might be feasible for the 2019 to present Explorer....
@KevinJames-yg9eu bs those are excuses fella nobody is saying put the outlaw engine in the car from the dealership. There are options to everything and ford did us dirty on alot of things no matter how hard you cry about why this and why that. They had potential that got wasted. All mustang gt's 96-10 should have been 4v engines all cobras should have been 5.4 4v engines. The coyote should have a 5.4 and 5.6 variant for the street..... they actually make those just not for the people. The ford explorer should have been on the f150 chassis likes it's always been. Tye ford explorer should have had a mandatory coyote option. The 2020 gt500 weights to much has a knob as a shifter a dct transmission only option when it should have come manual and weight less than the gt350 with no lift shift. The ford gt 17+ pure 100% bs the contract the v6 only option the dct 7spd only thing. The list goes on I could cry real hard but I'm not I will just touch the surface. The ball has been dropped to many times . #TeamSvt were the real guys holding ford down Fpr is junk and on bullshit
@forresterpaige7767 FYI, I'm just a hourly Machine Repairman at the Super Duty 10R140 transmission plant in Southern Ohio.
This is easily, hands down the single coolest build on YT in at least the last decade.
Been saying the same thing! The amount of detail, dedication, and engineering they have put into this build is on another level
Foooorrrrrrr sure brotha 💯
Couldn’t agree more
Erm... Project Binky?
Big facts
There is nothing "backyard" about these bastards. Cutting and welding heads, cutting new cams, this manifolds. This is professional engineering. 13:1 CR, that's kicks ass. Good job boys.
It sings! Great work yet again... I can't wait to hear it in the car 😎 - Markku
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the goats
How this channel doesn’t have a couple hundred thousand subscribers blows my mind. Absolutely insane project being very well documented.
@gilowens5785 Unfortunately, it doesn't feed the algorithm as hard because the uploads aren't more frequent. Tough to do all the building and engineering of this project and put out daily vlogs or something. It would be a lot of garbage content.
@@TheBCninjatrue, feel like they’re being dicked by an algorithm made for iPad kids
Got to start somewhere!
I'm doing my part sharing with everyone and demanding they sub. Simply amazing work and can't wait to see more vids!
Sounds even crazier than I thought it would. I've heard so many of this mod v10s and they always have this v6 kind of drone to them. This thing sounds insane! I bet with it toned back with a good muffler it's going to sound like a true exotic. Great work guys!
The thing with typical 6.8s is that many just cut off mufflers or straight pipe them, thinking it's gonna sound beefy like a v8 or like a Viper, and proceed to be disappointed when it doesn't even sound close to either. It's REALLY easy to make a 6.8 sound bad. That is not to say it CAN"T sound good as I've heard some screaming off their limiter from individuals that spent good money on proper exhaust setups.
@@zacharychavez3482 It sounds like a Huracan once they put the X pipe on it, it's all about maximizing those pressure waves. Maisteer has a good video on why this happens called "f1 sound is fake"
@@amazin7006 Oh, I agree. With the right setup I've always thought they sounded like lower-revving Lambos. Not a bad sound at all, it's a just different sound than what's typically expected.
If I had to nitpick: it's still a 90° bank angle engine. But let's be honest, modding a block to the perfect 72° for a V10 would be utter madness. What a project!
You guys might want to look into getting a high SPL microphone though. (Thats high sound pressure levels) The current set-up clearly succumbs to the awesomeness of an unmuffled proper equal length double 5-into-1 V10.
The ford crank is of a split pin design so it is actually even firing
Agreed on the mic, but on the bank angle, the Ford V10 is split pin so the exhaust pulses are even. The Lamborghini V10 is also a 90deg bank angle. It's based on the Audi V8 I believe. The 5.0l Lamborghini has split pins, 5.2l has straight pin and is odd-fire.
@@inaNis_ Didn't know this!
There’s also the fact that it’s a cross plain crank and not flat plain
@@melvin9614 But an inline-5 or a V10 can't be a flat plane crank anyway. 360⁰ divided by 5 is not a multiple of 90⁰.
Dump both banks into one collector for the ultimate sound. Basically a 2-into-1 setup. The crossover helps but balancing the exhaust pulses directly together in one pipe creates the most exotic sounding pitch and tone. Also improves scavenging for better flow and improves mid to upper end horsepower output. Great vid, thanks for sharing! Very fun.
This^ please!
Or go crazy with a 10 into 1.
Ye would sound pretty batshit with a 180 degree header 10into1 collector
"I don't always listen to my 4V V10 just for fun. But when I do, so do my neighbors." You guys have outdone yourselves with this video.
The amount of engineering these guys have put into the whole design is nothing short of incredible.
It's the custom heads on efi, I just haven't seen that very many.
The noise that happened once you added the x-pipe... Chef's kiss.
Please add my accolades to your efforts gentlemen, and keep having fun 🙂
I am going to need an X pipe on my V12 🤔
The "cackle" that engine makes is superb. Very well done guys.
The look on Jack's dad's face was glorious.
The look on Jack's mum's face was " ... meh ... ", unsurprisingly. 🤣
have you guys seen Maisteer video on how F1 sounds are made? i think his findings fit this project perfectly!
(in my opinion) the step on the collector fitting over the main pipes should be enough to create the pressure waves/exhaust note
+1, most likely need a stepped primary (before the collector) to really get the F1 sound
yeah I was apprehensive about it sounding more like a 1.5×v8 f150, but it sounds pretty good even without the stepped primaries
The X-pipe appears to do the trick, but it might still be informative
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Have any of you internet exhaust nerds ever actually built a race exhaust, or worked for a race team? Stepped headers are absolutely not what causes a high pitched sound. Maisteer even shows in his video a Ferrari V10 engine without stepped headers that still has that sound.
He kept deleting my comments while trying to get people to sign up for the answer. It's caused by tuned scavenging and pulsation waves, when you balance both banks together in a common collector. That is what the x-pipe does. That is exactly why adding an x-pipe here dramatically made the pitch higher. Go back and watch Maisteer's video. It's the joined common collector banks at the bottom that cause that sound. Stepped headers can help, a little, but they are not causing the sound. What they are causing is a tapered increase in exhaust velocity, that when sent down larger tuned length pipes, pinched back down again in a true merge collector, then balanced in one larger common collector, ie an x-pipe, will suck the exhaust gases through and balance the harmonics out as they bounce around. You can achieve the same effect without stepped headers by pinching the collector size down at the other end, then opening it up once again into a larger common collector, an x-pipe. The closer the pinched then larger common collector is to the engine, the higher pitched the sound. That is why muscle cars with their x-pipe near the back or middle of the car still sound low and rumbly. And the reason F1 and exotic engines are so high pitched, because this common collector join is literally right off the headers at the back of the engine due to packaging. Most serious drag and race engines use stepped collectors for their velocity and scavenging and sound nothing like a high pitched sound, because they don't have what makes the true difference. An x-pipe in the right location and setup. This is nothing new, Maisteer is just trying to monetize the answer that race teams and exhaust builders have known for decades. And he's still hiding the secret because stepped headers ain't it. All these guys need to do is pinch their collectors down and shove that x-pipe right off the back of them without all the extra pipe in between, and they're done. F1 to the max.
That x pipe made a big difference. Much more high pitched. Sounds freakin' amazing
Yeah the mixing makes a huge difference 😍 I need an X pipe on my V12 build 😎
@@UKBUILT i wish i had an m120 with an xpipe in my w124. Lol
@@TheCluelessEnthusiast 😆 that would be epic. I would love a c126 😍 but classic mercs are currently rocketing in value.
Once they put that X-Pipe on I was like oh shoot! That thing sounds nuts. Without it it didn't quite sound right and it was just so loud it didn't have any tone to it. Once you get some straight through mufflers on that X-Pipe it'll be CRAZY
Sounds awesome. Best part is the fact you're putting it in a Continental and not something more mainstream
A cat, a Pringles can, a quacking ring tone, and an F bomb. Love it!
I always felt Ford (Lincoln) missed the boat by not offering a 32 valve Coyote V8 in the Continental. However, hearing that 40 valve V8 with equal length headers and the x-pipe, you’ve elevated the concept to a totally different (dare I say, “stratospheric”) level.
I want. I want! I W A N T!!!
That sounds absolutely amazing! Why did you go to such effort? Because you can! I cannot wait to see this project completed. I really want to experience this thing in person one day. What an amazing build!
The Continental had been long discontinued by the time the coyote was introduced. The latest ones had the 4v 4.6 though.
@@philbert006 except it wasn’t. The last gen Continental was 2017-2020 and the Coyote came out in 2011.
Man with the x pipe it sounds incredible 😮
This is the most enjoyable and mind blowing build I have seen. It is the most mind blowing because of the way you have managed to engineer the issues away. Because you blokes don't carry on with a heap of theatrical crap and it is obvious you are just real good blokes. No ego's. From Australia can you just keep doing this stuff. Of course there is plenty to go here still. Just saying keep up the great work.
Wildly impressive guys. Can't wait to make my F-550 work truck sound like this hahaha.
The fact that you grafted your own 4V heads for this beast is jaw dropping.
So sick! Why are these the only 2 heads in existence? You have shown the way forward! Ford V10s are the next big thing.
Did you guys see the recent video about it being stepped headers that gave F1 cars their unique sound? They definitely seem to be the key, even a 4 cylinder sound like an F1 car, if you fit stepped headers 😊
was looking for this comment. Guys did a nice job but it will sound like shit compared to F1 engines.
they need to dive into scavenging and design it like musical instruments. F1 sounds like that cause you hear Chord (three tones) not Tone (one diameter pipe)
Not true, at all. Silly people are buying in to Maisteer's misinterpretations. It's common pinched collectors that create that sound, ie the x-pipe, not stepped headers. That's why it made such a difference here. They just need to move it closer to the collectors. Maisteer even shows an F1 engine without stepped headers that still makes that sound. Because that ain't it. It helps maybe 5% when everything else is right. But the x-pipe is 90% of the sound.
@@dons1932 not true. I was not referring only his video but scavenging theory as whole. I even programmed Python script to generate audio files of each cylinder at desired RPM to analyze how the exhaust waves will compliment each other (for various steps diameter to get resonant, not disonant tones - x pipe will ruin it)
@@dons1932 F1 engines never had x-pipes...
@@r3lease866straight out of the headers and up for late V10s and V8s, I mean hell you can see it.
It sounds great, a nice set of ITB’s would make this V10 rev like an F1 engine and make it scream like one to
Defo 😍
Never would I have thought that a FORD V10 engine could sound like that! Makes a grown man like me cry, swear
😎👍
This whole setup shoved into a Factory Five GTM Supercar would be insane
Making your own heads is insane. Amazing build! Move the x-pipe to right off the ends of the collectors and it will be crazy high pitched like F1.
As an engineering student I like that building it yourself actually was plan B and not plan A.
The best proje6on TH-cam right now hands down. I cant believe you dont have all the views on this beast..
You need to put this to market.
Right there you've shown us that this V10 can become a nice option for swaps
Maybe I’m the future!
Awesome project guys!
Btw, Disney uses the 6.8 in the Safari trucks at Animal Kingdom’s Kilimanjaro Safari ride. I think they run on CNG.
Interesting!
Thank you TH-cam for randomly putting this video in my feed! That thing sound glorious! Can not imagine the amount of work and R&D that went into getting this done but thank you for making this creation happen! Looking forward to more!
Bellissimo, Maestro!!! Oh my GOD do I miss that sound - 100% agree the best-sounding ICEs have ever been (honorable mentions to all of the Detroit 2 stroke V8s) - can't wait to hear your V10 scream past 4k!!
Never seen this channel before but this is extremely impressive
Man, I found you guys because of my love of the 6.8. What you guys have crafted is amazing.
How does this channel not have every gear head on the planet subscribed!! 🤯
The algorithm gods have not blessed us yet! 😭😭
The sound with the x-pipe is simply fantastic. Well done.
I am a human tripod right now!! ❤
You aren't, always?
Wrong. You're a tractor 🚜❤
Best sounding V10 forsure. Best build on YT!
awesome project guys, gonna be the hardest v10 on the block, much love !
Love the intro bit.
I can sense you've been influenced by Maisteer's unique (and somewhat unhinged) editing style🤣
Now this is how a v10 should sound. Forget that exotic razzle this thing sounds mean
Just found this channel and it brings out my inner child, with my nerdy love of science and machining. Thank you.
FAN-TASTIC, well done lads....That will be one of THE MOST AWESOME Hot Rod Lincoln's ever !!
Make sure you guys double clamp all of those water hoses.
Sounds phenomenal with the X pipe setup on it🔥
Yeah I better put an X pipe on my V12 build 😍
I didn't think this would get any crazier lmao
those F1 V10s were amazing...I attended 2 of the races at the Indy road course...and brought my most effective earplugs. Great sound...good to try to emulate it. Much of their sound also comes the valve overlap...your cams may not have that.
Underrated channel for sure
truly beautiful work, it's one thing to redesign it, but the finish work looks impeccable
Incredible work, gentlemen.
Very supportive parents. God bless them. 😊
I've heard somewhere that Stepped headers also help raise exhaust note
2 mins in and I’m already psyched with the editing on this one. The project has been incredible from the jump, the videos keep getting better and better as well. You boys are onto something great here!
Glad you enjoyed that, it was fun to make!
Bro, this video is 💯 giving me Maisteer vibes!!!! Does anybody else see what I'm seeing!???? ❤❤❤
The x-over sounded much nicer IMO!!! Gonna be a mental vehicle when all done!!!!
Hell yeah fellas, weekend has been made!! Thank you
This is sick, guys. Never considered the 6.8 in a performance application.
This deserves to be a Ford GT transplant.
Guys don’t stop making me smile. Absolutely amazing.
Why doesn't this video have a million plus views.. absolutely perfect
I watched a video recently where they found the reason a lot of exhaust systems on performance vehicles retain higher pitched frequencies is because they step the internal diameter of the pipe up as the pipe gets longer. It is supposed to help with scavenging and will make it sound great! Maybe after you get the build complete you can experiment with shrinking just the first few inches of manifold to really and try to tune it!
Amazing project, great work!
Yeah that's what I said in my comment earlier. Waste teams have been practicing that for decades, the step exhaust headers.
Maisteer
7:20 SO happy to hear this! Obviously you guys did beyond excellent work with perfectly equal length headers and the exotic collectors, but you don't know if it will sound any good until you test it for real like this. You hit the mark!
Have you considered stepped headers i.e. the first half of the primaries using smaller diameter pipe than the second half? This would make it sound significantly higher pitch like an F1 engine as it will double the number of reflections. Also what was the basis for the design in your X-pipe? Your current x-pipe design will cause a restriction as a result of having removed/cut out part of each pipes cross section to join them rather than splitting and opening them up to join them.
Absolutely the best sounding street car engine. You guys have knocked it out of the park!! Great work so far
You guys can rightfully be proud. The engine looks and sounds amazing!
It revs fast too. Awesome work!
That sounds amazing! You definitely need to scan those heads and produce them. Maybe scan a set of Coyote heads and make a set from those instead, have them cast in China, finished here
Maybe in the future!
You guys will have to install vband clamps to the rear exhaust exit to experiment with different brands and series mufflers till it's just right.
Good idea, I will have to do that on my V12 build 😎
Wow, that sounds incredible! Nice work guys!
THIS IS THE VIDEO IVE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!! ITS FIRE 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Sounds amazing. Under load will sound incredible.
The algorithm blessed me today. This engine is fkn sick
Some megaphones and a stepped header will get you that F1 sound. Fluid motorunion sells a real nice megaphone.
Best YT build ever 😃
Oh my god…with that X-pipe the sound was glorious 😳
Add steppers to the exhaust manifolds and will get even better.
I have hand made piped for V Twins in the past, this is insane. Well done!
I can't understate how amazing this is and the RND that went into it from two dudes in Michigan in a garage. Projects like this is are the very definition of capstone, an amazing display of knowledge, machining and enginuity. May you continue to grow on YT, great stuff gentleman.
This is literally so freaking inspiring. Seeing as I have an oddball swap myself (turbo 2v 5.4) I rock your merch at all the cruise ins I go to and try to tell everyone about this sick build. Honestly makes me want to build a gnarly 2v v10.
How have I only just found this channel?! Instant subscribe.
Man and that's just limited to 4k rpm. Cant wait to hear this thing sing in higher rpms
With fueltech? I give my respect, the best adjustable injection
Sounds amazing
I am blown away at the extent of the work, the success, and the lack of subscribers!
I think Stepped headers would do the real trick with achieving the sound you want!
I'm so glad to see this build get this far!! It sounds incredible and the amount of time and effort you both have put into this is incredible. Just want to sat thank you for doing what no one has and building it yourself 😊
Amazing build and amazing sound! you guys are genius, we need this as a production engine lol
Every engine with two banks deserves an X pipe or a merge. This is sounding so good! Imagine how much better it'll sound with exhaust cones and a little bit of a straight-through style muffler to take the edge off.
You should give stepped headers a try for an even more exotic sound.
I absolutely have to give you props for keeping it NA, everyone (including myself at one point) feels the need that any high horsepower car needs a turbo or any “built” car needs a turbo, but honestly supercharged cars are kinda slept on and ESPECIALLY high horsepower NA cars are underrated and incredibly impressive imo. Respect.
You guys are crushing it!
Sounds insane! Not what I was expecting ❤
million sub content right here. crazy
MEGA MAESTRO. Comic Gags, Video Effects, Engineering Results. You Gents are Seriously Legit.. Awesome and Congrats
You guys deserve so much more attention, this is incredible and i've had a smile on my face every time i watch you
Amazing guys - keep going we are here
Wow! That's all I can say. WOW!! That'll be indescribable in the. Conti. Keep up the great work.
My favourite youtube build atm. Love your work!
Yall deserve so many more subscribers, from the details of the build to the editing and commentary it’s high level!