I don't understand how Matt and Ryan caught more flack than the person actually accused of SA. This whole situation spiraled so out of control and people who freaked out at SM still feel like they're right. Ridiculous.
It's a big reason why I believe the SA allegation was blown way out of proportion. If I was actually abused, I wouldn't feel the need to go off on a tangent about the assaulter's friends 90% of the time to gain sympathy points. That and both Lex and Don having moments of being lovey dovey months after the supposed incident.
Oh no he was completely wiped out of internet with a lot of death threats even though ALL the evidence supported his side of the story. Lex won the Amber Heard 2023 title bring her the golden shit on the bed trophy!!!🏆
And when the allegations surfaced he refunded all the comission money to all the bloodthirsty believe all women leftoid's. What a distinguished gentleman. People should need to learn minding their own business in those he said she said situation and let the law deal with them. Especially when you pretend to care about the situation over political brownie points.
@@blackdragon3748 Yeah, but early on in the drama you'd think SuperMega were the ones being accused of SA instead. Looking at their twitters, the hate was raining on Don, too, but it was a lot more volatile on Ryan and Matt's accounts.
@@oldoutlet6946there’s a specific text that Matt showed in his response between him and Rav where Rav said that after talking to lex it didn’t seem that serious. It really makes it seem like she’s told multiple versions of the story to people on top of the things she’s already lied about.
Hate to break it to Leighton, but two months’ severance after being fired is more than most employees get. Some people don’t get a dime if they’re fired; others get two to three weeks’ pay at most. The entitlement of these people is amazing.
my eyes rolled so far back my head when i heard him whine about that. i recently resigned and only got offered $200. buf complaining about how what was offered to him was not enough?? that's just insanity.
in my state, you don't get shit when you're fired or if you quit. if you're laid off, you get something. 12k was unbelievably generous, that's half of most people's yearly salary for fucks sake
Ryan had to see his best friend's lifeless body and Lex & Co. thinks they're in position to tell Ryan and Matt how to grieve over Daniel. These people are deranged.
That's what I've been wondering this whole damn time. Why do Lex, Nick, Leighton, and Ethan- four people who have NEVER met Daniel, and didn't even know him nor have any connection to him when he was alive- feel they have the right to use Daniel as ammunition against Matt and Ryan, his closest friends in life, and have the fucking audacity to tell them what they're allowed to joke about and how they should grieve? It is absolutely fucking absurd, and I can't believe people are only beginning to talk about how ass-backward this situation is now.
I think one of the worst aspects of this sordid tale has gone completely unmentioned: Many of SuperMega's "supporters" totally bailed on them after these ridiculous made up bullshit allegations were made. How must that feel for Matt and Ryan?
@aarondavis8943 People are free to bail, but the subreddit was absolutely unhinged. Disgusting and venomous. The post that always stood out to me was a picture of Daniel with the caption "sorry you deserved better friends". Like holy shit, who the FUCK do you think you are?
I was seeing who this SuperMega was after hearing they left game Grumps, then seeing they dipped out of town a few months ago. That led to this, which led to this drama. I have no idea who any of these people are, but I can form an opinion about the situation because I'm not a fan of anyone involved.
Lex stayed with them for three months rent free. Then Matt offers to house her for free, which she turns down. She buys a jeep on a whim which she has to sleep in for a single night. Then she stays in a hotel for a few weeks. Then drives home. All of that just to claim they made her "homeless." The fucking audacity of this shit is unreal.
being homeless isnt being in the streets begging for change loser, they absolutely made her homeless. hotels and a car are not homes, they do not provide true shelter especially if you’re a woman
Interesting how she characterizes them letting her stay at their property rent free as "i was forced to clean up on my off hours, which means that i was paying THEM!" Imagine being asked to clean up a rent-free apartment and whining about it. If it were me, i'd be offering to do laundry and treat them to a steak dinner once a month. But to her, it's basically slavery. Unreal.
That was unbelievably entitled... logic you'd expect from underaged kids who've never worked to live. Yeah you cleaned the house for maybe $30 worth of labor. They saved you thousands.
@@UnseenOcteasy. They're used to being coddled and enabled. Accountability is poison and extremely painful and an utterly alien concept. The longer they've been coddled and enabled, the more poisonous, hateful and intolerant, the more painful and alien and unreasonable the concept is to them. Narcissistic tendencies and social tendencies to protect "mental health" from the evils of responsibility accountability or consequences of actions. Because they're "disabled", and we should have sympathy. So much sympathy that we treat them like toddlers and hand wave away anything they say or do that causes harm because of their "disability". Even if the actions are horrific. Get out of jail free card by the perpetrators "mental health guys" followed by internet brigades who shout down anyone who disagrees or doesn't enthusiastically applaud them for their "disability". Because those people are bullies and bigots who don't care about "mental health".
As a supermega fan from the beginning, i felt disappointed when i saw this drama spark up, but my disappointment shifted to confusion almost immediately when i learned how little this situation actually has to do with Matt and Ryan
cause this was all about emotional impact. Can't get much emotional impact from a dead man. Can get a lot of emotional impact from the faces of a (relatively) popular channel
@@kenma5176 so stuff that aint true.. and even if one of them was like the dead friend one its not related to what happened at all and kinda fucked to mention there dead friend and how they should be sad.
I feel guilt whenever my dad gives me $20-$50 the few times i have free time to visit him (last time i saw him was last year in November for his birthday) If i was giving housing with no rent i would feel like i do not deserve friends like them
@@GenesisBoi so true. My father helped me pay for my university and now I am a hard working individual. I decline everytime he tries to give me money (50$ for example) because I took enough already and instead I try to help them with stuff. Some people are just entitled brats
@@cumcumcum148 he just insists i take it likely partly in fue to always getting stuff for my younger brothers but nothing for me. (I rarely asked for stuff and im not his biological son)
Bro I've been actually homeless. Begging on streets homeless, abandoning every bit of shame and self worth you have so you can survive homeless, scrounging used needles for bits of bloody dope and stuff like that.... like this chick is so offensively privileged to be referring to herself as homeless in the situation she was in, and to talk about the trauma of it all and how it broke her.... I mean wtf. I'm better now btw. Been clean for a few years.
She says she was "made homeless". She lived rent free for months and was asked to leave. Then she went on vacation in her nice jeep. Then they told her to leave. They never kicked her out. She admits all of this. And this turned to spite and she made stuff up. Just like that.
Matt and Ryan should have never let so many ppl in close, their humor is grown 35/40+ type humor...when ppl weren't so fn sensitive and cry about every little joke. These fuckin kids these days wanna complain about every thing...claiming for everyone to get their pitchforks cuz their "feelings were hurt".
@@jessmorri7194 Its even worse because Matt even said that theyd pay for to live in a place by herself and she just ended up refusing because of a reason I cant fathom.
We had a suicide in the family a few years ago and we joke about it sometimes to cope. It doesn’t mean we don’t care about him, or that we don’t miss him. It’s just that sometimes the pain is too much to handle without humor. He stills shows up in my dreams sometimes. People needs to learn that everyone grieves differently.
So true. There’s truth and humour to reality and sadly death is reality. It’s best to move forward in the only way some people know how ❤ best wishes. My loved one still comes in my dreams too
My brother OD'd and died, and I've done my grieving. I joke about him now, I laugh about the time we had, and I mourn in a more hapiful way now. Grieve the way that makes it easier for YOU.
My little cousin bumped his head and had a funny reaction right before my grandpa's funeral startes and at least half of us were laughing 😂 My grandfather would have loved that
the stream of ethan and lex watching supermega’s sub count go down is so sick, pretty much confirms she intended to destroy them over not letting her bum in their office.
They're petty leeches. They have nothing else going on in their lives aside from accumulating drama and burning someone else's money on fast food, expensive clothes, and shit from amazon.
Hell it's not like they even kicked her out. She left out of her own choice because they weren't constantly reassuring her insecurity that living in their space of work is without issue
Imagine someone offers you ten grand to get your own place and you're like "Nah, that makes me uncomfortable." Then larping you're homeless and then cry afterward that those people don't care about you
I know, I was screaming at my phone: "Why? Why can't I find myself in this terrible, uncomfortable situation?" 😮💨 Call it a bribe if you want to, it's a heaven sent offer.
Wait, so this WHOLE TIME, Lex wasn't even working for them?? And she was housed for free and they offered to pay months of backrent??? I completely assumed she was an employee holy sh*t... How entitled can you be, they were clearly going above and beyond to be great friends at every turn
Her entitlement really shows in her video, “I don’t owe them anything they said I could stay there” omg after Matt offers to house her and she denies it…
@@jemimaclifordhemmings9488 RIGHT?! "They wouldn't help us :(" Matt: "Here's months and months of living in LA, I'll pay for it" "Omg he's clearly bribing me" She's so out of her fucking mind. Such a god damn shame this psychotic twat ruined the lives of everyone at SuperMega.
I am a survivor of SA and also a trained Victim Service Advocate and the entire situation from the beginning made me uncomfortable. Something felt off. Nicksnotgreen can be more than bias and even manipulative in his content, he has even acknowledged that he’s gotten that feedback from other creators. Hassan Piker told him the problem with his content is, “he presents his opinions as facts.” And discrediting a male victim of assault is the same grievance you are accusing SuperMega of except worse. I feel like he is saying, “Believe all victims…that I’m friends with. But don’t believe victims my friends don’t like.”
I've known many victims of sexual assault, listening to Lex stumble over exactly how everything happened is so fake. She does not sound convincing at all. She wasn't traumatized by anything that happened until it would become advantageous to do so in her mind
I know Tom's audience generally doesn't like Hasan, but I enjoy his content (mostly his non political stuff honestly ,as he has fun chemistry with a lot of people, including SM the boys) but I'm so glad he called Nick out. Given his disgusting unempathetic response to Ryan's note asking for accountability for tarnishing the legacy of Daniel and weaponizing his suicide against him and Matt (the ones actually affected by it), I hope more reasonable seeming people like Kurtis Connor drop his ass.
Trained in advocacy to, the first thing advocates should do after listening is to start giving the victim their power back. This begins with the open questions "what do you want to do about this?" and "what do you want me to do about this?". Supermega definitely made mistakes, it appears that they are learning. Anyone without advocacy training would. But I don't get why they were criticised for that and trying to establish facts.
incredibly this is very common. people think it's a virtue and that they're "true friends". it's actually insane, they think friendship is believing in everything the person says and accepting their every decision. Imagine if their friend got very depressed or addicted to drugs, they'd just enable them forever.
It’s not uncommon to take your friends/family/SO’s word on anecdotal experience; I’d take it one step further and say it’s usually what a good friend would do. When you’re a content creator however, it’s a different story. You can’t make a heavily opinionated hit piece on someone just because you want to stick up for your friends. You either keep an objective perspective by just recounting the accusations without inserting any opinions, or you wait until there’s enough information posted from both sides to make a subjective hairpiece.
That's pretty much the mindset of ppl who support the motto "believe all victims". They do not consider that the perpetrator/accused might be the victim. yk like rex orange county, Johnny Depp, Slazo, Pyrocynical. Yeah they're ALL guilty. Women lying? women can't lie.
Trust but verify. Only a liar/manipulator gets offended when the truth is sought. If she was GENUINELY a victim, the truth will bear that out... but no, your "feelings" aren't facts: and regret isn't necessarily rape, sorry Alexis.🙄
@@pizletwizzler198 exactly, supermega tried to verify while also trusting her. nick will believe lex cuz shes his friend but supermega was friends with both lex and don so by nicks own logic doesnt it make sense that they wouldnt completely jump the gun on the whole situation?
ryan’s post at the end talking about his memories of daniel was so heartbreaking. i can’t imagine what this must feel like for him and matt. it takes such an insane level of narcissism to believe you have the authority to dictate how someone Really feels about the most traumatic event of their life, while knowing nothing about the situation yourself.
It's the equivalent of scolding soldiers doing minor banters regarding a fallen brother Man it's as if they were so close that they know that the fallen party wouldn't care and in fact would do the same because of the specific bond they made
Seriously. I lost my brother the same way that they lost their friend. I love him, and miss him every day. I often refer to him as a coward and talk crap about him, because my feelings tied to his memory are a huge jumbled mess that no one who has ever gone through any trauma of that level would fault anyone else for. These people trying to weaponize those often irrational, and always conflicting emotions tied to a loss like that tells me everything that I need to know about their motives.
Has it? I liked Nick. He deserves the whole internet to turn on him for being so insanely irresponsible. Wish I could excuse it as a mistake but it’s to the point that it disgusts me. It’s clear that the disgruntled ex SM employee is pulling the strings on this and he’s most culpable but Nick can only be so much of a useful idiot before I have to condemn his character.
Man her crying about them needing to be better cause they didn't kick her ass out to the streets or charge rent always gets me, like girl what are you even saying. As far as I'm concerned the only thing Super Mega is guilty of is being way to nice to people who don't deserve it.
I completely agree. She’s a spoiled little brat. Matt and Ryan showed her kindness, and she took advantage of them. She didn’t like being kicked out after living rent free for MONTHS, so she took that opportunity to start slandering them, and trying to deplatform them. I hope she gets the karma she deserves.
@@TangyNav Yeah like she really self reported on herself in her own video, you don’t make road trip plans while being homeless and staying at someones place, as someone who had someone take advantage of me in a very similar way this one was a big oof, I really hope the boys recover from this unfortunate incident.
@@Yeen_Beans Yeah. It’s absolute bs that she claimed she was “homeless”. Like, if she can afford a vacation, Amazon packages, and to buy an ENTIRE JEEP, she is obviously lying. Not to mention, people with ACTUAL trauma do not like talking about it. Let alone having the entire internet know. And yes, both Matt and Ryan deserve peace after this whole mess. They didn’t deserve to go through any of what happened. I hope this break they’re taking is helping them recover
Lmao I thought lex was like in her early 20s so it would make sense for her to be couch surfing, but finding out she's like 29 and homeless makes it way funnier, how you gonna be nearly 30 and living in an office.
I can't tell whose worse, Lex or Leighton... I'm sitting here working 12 hour days 6 days a week and I don't have $100 to take my son to the theme park... Her trauma is being stuck with tens of thousands of dollars for vacations, gas, and some of the most expensive air BNBs in the world in fucking Hollywood. The extreme privilege spewing from these people are actually making me nauseous.
@@adambonesaw3689 to make a living off of shit that’s basically half real (terminally online contrived drama) will most certainly rot the brain. It’s so disconnected and takes EVERYTHING for granted. The older I get, the more grumpy I get about all these young and wealthy mid twenty year olds dying inside because they are unfulfilled and don’t realize it. I don’t feel envious or miffed about their income, I’m just upset that a lot of online “creators” can’t escape the delirium of the internet, or maybe the delirium of perceived success; gotta get their hands in the dirt, earn a few years of callouses, spend less time on the internet. Makes a difference when you come back a few years later lol, even when the entire ecosystem of the internet has changed dozens of times by then.
I always love when people with self-proclaimed crippling anxiety are always more willing to talk about issues on camera to thousands (potentially millions) of people instead of just speaking to the one or two people they have a problem with in the first place.
Yeah I know right, it's like watching Michael Cera do a Ted talk. SA is serious. A lot of the issue seems to be about her friends attitudes or reaction, not about the actual SA. I get it but what can they do, what are they supposed to do? And now airing it on the internet, to more completely unrelated people. I don't get why this behavior is encouraged or looked at like normal. This would give me more anxiety than anything in life.. So much weird behavior is encouraged or at the least is accepted in this day and age
She's clearly some kind of sociopath. She liked using other people so she can get hers. She takes half naked photos for simps hoping she could siphon money from teen boys. She clearly doesn't want to work and just wants hand outs. When thr handouts stopped it was her time to leverage a horrible situation to benefit her. It didn't affect her, it was just something she could weaponize in the future
@@dangbruhskyy yeah most people wouldn't do it in a way that was clearly done for their own leverage. Most people don't use serious trauma as weapon to get revenge when handouts are stopped. Lex is a leech
@@experssion123 the level of maturity represented here compared to level of accusation is night and fuggin day lol. every relationship as a teenager i typed some ghoulish angsty shit on Facebook🤣 but dam this bitch grown af drinking alcohol in la making bad decisions. still hit you with a 3 hour upload tslkin shit 🤣🤣🤣🤣 SA accusation is serious on both sides too.. nah this bitch get the whole chicken sandwich economy locked up if she find chick fil a drive thru.. "my pleasure" huh.. last one u gonna have🤣🤣🤣criminal jokes aside 🙏 fellas be safe out there dont let a e girl take your freedom
as someone who has watched Nick, he admits he puts out the videos ASAP even if he doesn’t have the full story. so obvious he literally did not gaf for this story too despite how SERIOUS these allegations are. life damaging allegations are not just some funny tiktok drama to go over, he should’ve done his research.
In his first video he was giddy about following this story because he was dunking on SuperMega. In his follow up video he was decrying having to make these videos and how it's not fun for him to follow this serious story about his friends SA...
Yeah okay, but Nick has done multiple videos without proper research before, this wasn’t a one time thing. I hope you can realize how terrible people like Nick and Ethan are, and unsub and stay far away from them.
@princezeekie9311 What you specifically would do doesn't matter because you are irrelevant. This is a matter that involves people's livelihoods and reputations, so immediately tossing out a video without zero evidence is not only braindead but also potentially illegal if you are found out to be lying. Go rot in a basement, average nick enjoyer.
The worst part is, the damage is done. There’s never a mass retraction that tells everyone that they’re innocent. Everyone who believed the lie will believe it indefinitely. It takes more than a video like this to clear a person’s name. When I hear people defend an accusation with “why would they lie?” Because people lie. Some people lie simply because they help themselves. I have known many liars. Most do it to protect their own self image. A coping mechanism to divert responsibility of ones own actions. I knew one girl that just wanted the drama. Like she fed on it. People lie. It’s not a gender thing, it’s a human thing. Question everything until given enough evidence. Edit: Using Daniel as a means of smearing Matt and Ryan is inexcusable. Even if it were true. That should always be off limits. I believe Matt and Ryan on this. I remember when Daniel’s death was revealed. I remember seeing the grief in Mark on his channel as well as Matt and Ryan on Cyndengo. It was clear they loved him and would never forget him. I don’t even think they’d grieve with humor. Outside of funny memories they had with Daniel.
Cancel culture most of the time is a flop. J.K. Rowling had more book sales during her "cancellation". Tony Hinchcliffe's show, Kill Tony, blew up once it returned after it was "cancelled". Shane Gillis career is better than ever after being tossed aside by SNL, although to be fair he would rather be doing skits. Joe Rogan Experience is still the largest podcast in the world despite the media's constant attacks. That being said there is a list of huge no nos you avoid and from my understanding Supermega had done anything major. The only thing I can see hurting them is Ryan's involvement with fans and cheating on his then girlfriend. Assuming none of them were underage, that's something that can be forgiven but remembered. That being said, the fans are overwhelmingly supporting them. This will correct the beliefs of some of those who believed in the lies and make new fans. Matt and Ryan just have to decide if they can forgive themselves and wish to continue. They're some good dudes. Ryan is pretty torn up with his actions, and I can tell he expresses deep regret. I really hope he can make peace with himself and give Supermega a second chance. Both Matt and Ryan will see the world not only forgives them but see they did their best in a messy situation. Especially with Turkey Tom's help they'll be making a grand return, if they decide to.
I mean even if Matt & Ryan did joke about Daniel’s death, who cares? They’re his friends. Ryan especially had more loyalty to Daniel than anyone in that house. Ofc he can get get away with harsher jokes.
well idk theres plenty of people whose minds have been changed and are now on supermegas side. i didnt know anything about the situation other than watching nicks and lexs videos on it and thought supermega were awful people (i didnt even know who they were before this drama so it didnt really affect anything much). now i know it was a complete lie and from matts and ryans response videos they seem like very sensible people and ten times smarter and better people than lex and co will ever be.
consider this even more unfortunate reality; there are some people who are NEVER vindicated after being smeared and their credibility destroyed. they have no online presence (or cant) and those who could not just bring that person a sense of closure but also present a story with its missing pieces finally in place. this is why i kind of detest most youtubers. unless its beneficial to them somehow ultimately covering a story of injustice or calling out bad actors is of zero real concern. perhaps its because im considerably older but i dont jump to any final conclusion on a matter until i have been able to fully evaluate it from as many angles as reasonably possible. i also react to witnessing something potentially criminal by treating it like a crime. same reason if i were to witness someone get mugged in front of me i wouldnt be tweeting about it id be helping the person report it and offering to be a witness. this isnt to discredit or dismiss the impact of the situation but from what was described i struggle to think of any state law where it would be considered assault. this doesnt mean it wasnt wrong and caused harm but assault is misleading esp when taking into account what would fall under that definition typically. theres also nothing weird about someone wanting to know the potential severity or extent of what happened when disclosing that kind of thing. this doesnt mean details but some frame of reference is needed to understand what the appropriate response would be. say for instance the incident involved being drugged/unconscious by the person. that is an important factor that absolutely changes the response. i think those who have had more valid reasons for being given a voice are exactly the ones who wind up never being heard and not for a lack of trying.
The reason why Matt and Ryan asked questions...IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO! If anybody could say an employee of a company SA'd them, and they knew that employee would get fired, people would abuse it all the time. I'm for believing the survivor and supporting them, but when employment comes into play, employers NEED to ask questions. I'm not saying how they handled that situation was perfect, but then again, believing your boss is your friend never has a good outcome.
It's not even just a matter of employment. Both Don and Lex were friends of theirs. How irresponsible it would've been for them to blindly believe one friend and cut the other out of their lives based on hearing only one side of the story.
Yeah I was pretty impressed with the stupidity of saying that they shouldn't have asked any questions at all and just blindly believe her. Because there has never ever been a case of false allegations.
@@raychapman1134I'm still watching the video, but I just heard him say that and I had to pause and come to the comments looking to see if anyone else found that as stupid as I did. Thank you.
Yeah, I don't like how in his response Matt is like "I shouldn't have asked questions" like no, dude, you should have asked _more_ questions. I wish we could believe any accusation anyone makes but unfortunately that's not the reality we live in.
honestly, i have a lot to say about this, but all i’m going to is that i’m just happy ryan is going after all of them for tarnishing respect for his late friend and using his death as ammunition for unrelated drama. it’s disgusting, how can you care about mental health and SI all while going after the people who have lost loved ones to it? bringing a completely unrelated situation up in such a disrespectful way? that’s traumatizing as it is. the pain of losing someone that was that close to you doesn’t ever actually go away, it’s something you learn to deal with. obviously these people have no respect for that
Yeah I can only imagine how much those comments bothered him to the point of making another statement. The craziest thing to me is that none of those dipshits apologized. They tacitly admitted they made the Daniel stuff up but STILL refuse to do the barest minimum and own up to it. Sociopaths fr.
I guarantee they purposefully misinterpreted Matt and Ryan's jokes about Daniel, which is a more heinous thing to do than joke about a horrific loss you and your friend both experienced. What are they supposed to do, break down into tears every time they hear about suicide?
When people talk about "male feminists" they're talking about people like Nick and Ethan. I remember this Tiktok where somebody said "name a creator who panders to female viewers by reacting to red pill/alpha male content and provide the most surface level critiques known to man so that they can get laid" and the most liked comment was somebody bringing up Nick, and then Nick had a panic attack on Twitter (bro was having a full on identity crisis, it's like when a Scooby Doo villian is unmasked, like "oh shit they found out my secret").
That’s what’s crazy to me, she was sexually assaulted by don but then destroys Matt and Ryan’s reputation and reveals they cheated on significant others. Like why?! Why are you going harder on Matt and Ryan and lying about how they treated you and ignoring don. Leading to Morgan coming out and confirming Matt cheated as if any of this should be our business or matter in context of sexual assault
She can deepthroat like a champ though. I've seen it. Joking aside, this whole situation reminded me of a ProJared quote; "Nobody likes cancelculture, untill they get the oppertunity to cancel somebody." Particulary that latter part seems to apply to most of the people in this vid.
2 different people, she's talkin ab Morgan not lex. how tf 29 other people like this? ion get yawl. rly shows how many didnt watch the whole vid or jus didnt pay any attention LMAOOO@@BaronVonBielski
It is beyond infuriating watching Nick muddying the waters for no good reason but personal bias. Not questioning a victim and simply accepting all that they say as fact is irresponsible and naive.
@@informitas0117 Naw I'm pretty sure the narrative has changed and he's seen as a massive manipulative piece of shit now, why do you think even Lex has distanced herself from him? I haven't seen much of anybody defending him at this point.
@notville_nick literally made a video calling them horrible people and defaming them off of baseless claims with the intent to ruin their public image. This is supported by his mockery of them, ad hominem ridden exposé, and the fact him and his associates were celebrating their channel losing subs. He’s not innocent either
The whole Daniel bit was scummy as fuck, imagine using someone who you never knew to try and prove your point. I feel incredibly bad for them, super mega should have never had to go through that as a weaponized conspiracy
to use someones SUICIDE. I don't mean this hyperbolically, to use someones best friends suicide, of which they found the body, as a gotcha thing in a youtube drama video shows you DO NOT CARE about suicide. No one who genuinely understands and is sensitive to the weight of perhaps the most tragic thing someone can do would ever even think to use it in such a flippant and frankly irresponsible and callous manner.
I've been in the same boat before sadly. This is the reason I despise people like this. My mom died when I was young. And my fiancee and our newborn daughter died when I was in highschool. Didn't know how to deal with it so I locked myself away from people for 4 years till I had the will to keep going.mydad got remarried at the time. And his wife. Would always use my mom. Or fiancee and child against me to win arguments. I had to learn to try to ignore it so she couldn't get to me. But always did regardless. Why do people have to go to such lows..
@@mxnlie luckily I moved out and got away. No matter if she tries to stay in my life cause my dad. I had no choice but to comply most of the time cause I was threatened with getting kicked out. Even had to stay out one day just cause I got mail
"he asked for details, which i thought was weird" Yes, its weird for people to ask for details of a serious accusation that may or may not have happened.
An employer should always just believe the victim without asking questions. Like last week I had an arguement with a coworker about whether Star Wars was good or not and they upset me. I told my boss that they assaulted me and they immediately fired them without severance and put a black mark to their name for future employers. I was so glad because had they asked any questions they wouldn’t have done that. I think that’s exactly how a business should be run, the truth should only matter if it affects me.
She kept saying this because she wants people to just be on her side 100%. No questions asked. BUT you must remain impartial until all the facts are laid out. He's asking to understand why she's coming to him about it and then figure out how to handle it. It's childish to expect people to just *believe* you. When you're an adult it's less about the details and more about you showing that you're rationalizing it all in a mature way. This is all just doing your due diligence. Be patient and understanding but don't blindly take people at their word. You want to figure out what HAPPENED not just say accept someone's story. He said the questioning was to understand the severity of the situation. She WANTS everyone to just feel bad for her but a good friend would help you only as much as you NEED because you're not going to learn how to get through things if you're babied.
"I want to accuse someone of something, but I don't want it documented" ... having worked as a behavioural psychologist for nearly 30 years, predominantly with children, teens, and young adults, I tend to find that young people these days WANT everything documented, UNLESS there's some kind of deception involved. They only care if something is verbal only, if they want the option to deny having said it later.
Absolutely agree. ESPECIALLY when it comes to something SO serious as it is SA. I was 4bus3d too and let me tell you, I was desperate trying to find ALL the evidence I could and keeping EVERYTHING documented ALWAYS. You always need your receipts, unless you have something to hide.
@@username-re9yki mean ... makes sense And now that i think about it i guess this explains a few troubles in my life (By that i mean getting asked the same questions when ive already awnsered them It isnt fun when family life is a bit all over the place)
These people are more angry at Supermega than the actual “assault” that is so crazy to me. They bring up matt and Ryan’s name way more than they did Don. The intention is obvious.
Unfortunately even then, Don's career is in shambles because of this too. He's left his Twitter and deleted his Newgrounds all. All because of baseless accusations that people chose to blindly believe and stick to without even letting Don try to clear his name.
this video is the perfect example of why i have trust issues. So many people pretending to be their friend and happily living rent free, but the second that gets taken away they lie, lie, lie. Ive never watched supermega but i hope they can come back from this even stronger, such a shame.
Honestly, I feel like this is such an LA problem. Am I saying people like this only live in LA? No, they are everywhere. Am I saying LA draws them in like moths to a flame? Yes, very much yes.
@@zama422 I'm from Ohio and lived in L.A. for a while. The people are just incredibly vapid. The ones who are reasonably well off have never experienced trauma and/or serious adversity and it breaks them. It's like they live in a dream world where they are unable to mature and basically are incapable of thinking about others. It's pretty crazy and this mostly applies to those who never had money issues growing up and the trauma that causes, but it's absolutely unlike anywhere else I've ever been.
Lex and Leighton lose a lot of credibility when the messages between Matt show how they talk to him one way, but later completely flip the script and say the opposite. Many instances of "Hey are you okay with this?" being affirmed and even encouraged on Leighton's part and Matt always made a point to let them know they (Matt/Ryan) would support them. As I don't know these people personally I can't form an opinion on what Lex is claiming is SA, but the persistent and underhanded slander towards Matt and Ryan seems completely unwarranted.
Also, notice her tone. She starts the video trying to seem like a meek and wounded victim but by the end she's lashing out, rolling her eyes being sarcastic speaking with an attitude as she reveals just how entitled she felt to be living for free in their space. More than anything, in her video, she across as angry that she's not getting to stay without paying rent in LA anymore.
Lex framing the moving out situation as if they were "forced out" instead of "overstayed their welcome after months of not looking for another place to live" triggers the ever living fuck out of me
@nasaten i did, did you? she blames them for not giving her a deadline when she's been living there rent free. "If you were a better boss, you should have given us a deadline" Like imagine being so fucking shameless that while you live in your employers office rent free you complain about the mess you attribute too and take road trips instead of saving up to move out. Like, did she think she would stay there rent free forever? Has she no shame in taking advantage of someone going so above and beyond that they even offer to pay her rent for a new place? These people are leeches and once you get old enough you will encounter these types of people if you haven't already.
@@kingghidra1032 no need to get aggressive bud. I was simply pointing out this extra context in case you didn’t know. Plus I’m not reading allat bro if ur getting this worked up over it maybe you should go outside it’s not that deep.
@nasaten dude...I read like the first line and immediately assumed you were defending this behavior. My bad, I do get super triggered over degenerates like this. Sorry for unnecessary douchery
So... She was given a free place to stay while she looked for somewhere to live, then she was offered for someone to pay her rent for three months to move out, said no, went on a trip and bought a brand new jeep and took a several week scenic route while posting multiple selfies a day about how much fun she was having... For her mental health. Then when she finally comes back and is told she needs to give them a move out date, decides on her own not to do that and live in her jeep instead and now claims it's SuperMega's fault she was homeless?
@@2old2steak I noticed no one is really talking about this but like, her onlyfans is really famous? Like she is most def making 3-4k at the very least from that. Hell, that is how i found her because she was in the 1% like 5 years ago. I cannot believe the thought that she did not have money to straight up buy a full house just from onlyfans. She doesn't do nudes anymore but she has to still be making bank from it.
And then later she’s mad Matt and Ryan didn’t publicly denounce don when she herself said she wanted it quiet??? Like what! Then she says at some point Ryan mentioned don over text and how she was stoked to have proof but like you specifically said you DIDNT wanna do it over text and have proof wtf
I have two phones of receipts from an ex that wouldn't let go. Years worth with time stamps. I also called the sheriff, who said they are viable in court. Got a restraining order through the magistrate. Stuff like this cannot be taken haphazardly. Safety and receipts is fundamental.
@@BaronVonBielski The scary part is how 2-faced they all are. They at first displayed how they're cool with something only to say they weren't several months later and use it as material to slander. They deserve to have their careers ruined so much more than Don did imo.
The "sex trafficking room" thing shows a level of political brain rot that makes me question much of what she says. The straight-up lies have the same effect, tbh. Imagine being homeless and fortunate enough to be in a hotel with a master bedroom and hot tub and complaining about it. I've been homeless, I was in my car and I was in a tent, I would have _killed_ for a room with a place to bathe and a bed to sleep in.
with no sex trafficking actually taking place, to even invoke the concept of sex trafficking in that story shows how hard she was trying to make it sound bad
It's not politically adjacent. Some people are just actually disconnected from reality. Even if you put up all the safety rails for them they'll always find a way to act like they're dying. Death and poverty is real and we're surrounded by it, masquerading as it is beyond reprehensible.
I don't wanna be selfish but as a now 21 year old who grew up in poverty. Seeing this entire video with Lex and all the rest just rambling about being homeless meanwhile Matt & Ryan are giving them money, hiring them and do everything in their power to support them. It makes me cringe that they would backstab the people that let them feed off their hands. Some people just don't deserve what they are given 😐
I'll add on to your point, I went to rehabilitation after a super rough childhood, I've met there most of my current & best friends, the rehabilitation org. helps us with being taught how to live normal lives despite our traumas & disabilities, as tough as it may be. Those people... are genuinely POS, seeing Nick talk down to Jim while Jim is confessing to being a Victim is inhumane. While I do sympathize with Leighton since I have Bipolar too (or at least his rationale/thought process), he damages the reputation of people who are also diagnosed with Bipolar who try to live normal lives, after all - who would want to get a person who can potentially ruin the company randomly, even if their leave felt mutual with no bad blood remaining.
AND Matt offered to pay the DP and months of rent on a place for Lex, equaling 10k, that SHE turned down; then has the audacity to blame him for her being homeless...After living rent free too...They clearly brought up them needing to move out several times, then offered to get her her OWN damn place, and she acts like this??? Ungrateful as all hell.
It is very gross and this doesn’t apply to lex at all, but you can still be homeless and have money. Being homeless, simply classifies as not having your own home. There are obviously very different levels of being unhomed and while the most commonly found unhomed person is the kind of person that you would see on the side of the road that is not the only classification. If you’re living on your friends couch, you’re homeless if you’re a child and you live with your grandparents instead of your mother in the school system, you were legally considered homeless, there are many different examples I could go on and on. So, while in this instance, it truly is entitled of lex to act the way she has,as someone who genuinely was homeless, let’s not accidentally put others down who are genuinely going through that struggle in the process.
Legit unsubscribed after this ( his content was getting really crappy and bad after that anyway I'm talking recording in cars dying mics and other shit)
The only part about it that genuinely makes me upset at him, besides obviously potentially ruining Matt and Ryans livelihood/ magnum opus (i say this unironically because so many of their videos are SO creative and have so much work and passion put into them verus Nick being a drama youtuber mocking their content, it made me genuinely confused), is that he used Daniel's SUICIDE as a petty gotcha thing. I mean, what a callous lack of respect for human life and perhaps the saddest, most tragic thing someone can do. For god sake, Ryan had to find his best friends dead body, and then see his memory be desecrated not only in comment sections of old videos he had with him (which he says he viewed as memorials of their friendship, which he now cannot even look at due to bs drama comments), but to be used to level a false character assassination on SuperMega by people who clearly do not care about suicide or Daniel, i mean TRULY care. Because no one who truly cares for perhaps the most sensitive topic there is could use it in such bad faith.
Leighton blaming his personality disorder and BP disorder for why he thinks people are out to get him and for why he has to drink in public is a telling sign of his credibility.
He put his personal problem of "having to drink" around others as something they did to him lol. Guaranteed if they asked him to stay away while they drank, he'd be out here telling us how he was meant to be an outcast for his "addiction" 😂
This is behaviour I expect out of kids and teenagers. Weaponizing your mental disabilities to avoid any and all accountability for your actions is heinous. You're an adult. You should be treating that shit and finding ways to better channel your mood spikes and depression and getting help. NOT letting it get worse and acting petty towards others for not tending to your every whim. Leighton gets no sympathy from me. I know folks who get severely depressed and feel the need to apologize afterwards because of how far it gets. They don't get upset with people for not knowing how to properly approach it nor pin blame on anyone for their condition. It's called not being a sociopath.
This is the gay dude you know who wants to be friends and says “I just want to be treated the same as everybody else.” Then you treat him the same as everybody else and he gets pissed. Fuck that guy.
Idk man. This Lex person, I apologize for being an old guy and not knowing who these people are, but as soon as she said that the hotel in Pasadena was “obviously used for sex trafficking” she lost me. I’m am very sorry about anything that happened to this young lady. There is just a lot of sensitivity and immaturity throughout this entire situation. False accusations are not anything to joke about. Some people are not good people and regardless of your situation you need to distance yourself from them. I hope all parties involved are doing well and have moved on to live happy and healthy life.
I'm an old fart as well and i don't mean to pass judgement on the whole SA part of her story, but... This btch had the audicity to stay in someone's place for months for free only to use that as an argument why she was treated badly by them in some way. How?!
Nothing happened to her. She rejected a sexual advance and the other party complied when they were made aware of the rejection. She blew everything out of proportion 110%.
im not, she let it happen, didnt say anything, then stayed hanging around the guy and his friends, shes either lying and/or liked it, or lying. if her story was true or she had a brain, shed tell them immediately let alone the police and stop hanging around them immediately but noooo she stuck around for more haha
Yeah that was so melodramatic. She’s implying to some regard that she’s being forced into sex trafficking, or at least around sex trafficking, because of SM. Like okay, you’re not being sex trafficked so let’s calm tf down. Not to mention they literally offered to PAY for a place for her to live. So how the heck did they force her into that situation?
This video is almost the same length as the original lexupdog video but I come away from it understanding way more about what happened. Seeing this girl fake cry and ramble about unrelated shit for 3 hours was actually so infuriating, I'm glad you came into this situation and made sense of it all.
@@appletreeariathen she incriminates herself with her own words. Not even realizing we can tell you're not homeless if you have tens of thousands of air BNBs and vacations across the country several times, just on a whim
@@adambonesaw3689 I remember there was this one part of her video where someones wife attempted suicide and she said that her sexual assault (that happened 6 months ago at this point) was the "over arcing situation". The fact that she saw something bad happening to her half a year ago, as more important than someone's wife attempting suicide THAT NIGHT was crazy. Girl is so self centered and baby like it's ridiculous.
Bruh....the whole thing with Morgan is really creepy if I'm being honest. Im sorry you caught feelings, we have all been there. But to try to ruin someone's life because of it? Scary.
Yeah and also like she basically knowingly was with someone who had a significant other and is somehow the victim and calls him a cheater. He is and is a piece of shit for that but like the person who willingly slept with someone in a relationship is at fault too. Even if she thought they were on a break everyone knows that that is still fucked
morgpie said he didnt want anyone to know they did anything together but they literally went to creator clash together?? she seems.... very 21 years old.
I'm still shocked at those statements. The way she narrated that whole interaction genuinely makes me question if the alleged SA with Don actually even happened or if she just made it all up twisting the original situation
@@username-re9ykif you’re doubting someone’s sexual assault because they keep making naïve decisions based on the fact they view every single person as inherently good intentioned and kind, then you are genuinely not equipped to make decisions about what did and didnt happen to people
@@nug9gpeople are doubting a sexual assault because she’s given us no reason to believe her considering 85% of her accusations can either be proven as false or exaggerated and considering how she treated two people who did back her up by distancing and liking tweets that bashes them and also can we stop blaming naïveté for bad decisions? if you’re so gullible and so without boundaries that you’ll fall for anything it’s no one else’s fault you keep putting yourself in those situations it’s like giving a stranger your social security number and being surprised you got your identity stolen
As someone who is actually homeless (I lived on the street until I was finally able to buy a car, which I now live in), it sucks when people like her whine about their circumstances, when in reality they have plenty of options and a huge safety net.
EXACTLY!!!!! The amount of entitlement Lex is showing is absolutely mind blowing to me. The fucking privilege she has to be able to turn down $10k for an apartment but then turn around a buy a new jeep and yet still claim you're homeless??? Not to mention that she admits to having a home back in Tennessee???? it's so fucking disrespectful to people who are actually going thru it! I've been homeless several times and it truly sucks and is a HARD situation to pull yourself out of. My heart goes out to you and I hope your situation gets better soon. Stay strong❤
@@theminiaturemenace genuine question- whats the controversy with them? I know about the dingdong and game grumps thing, is that it? Do people not believe it?
@@Anne-ot8gq Yeah that's what I was referring to. Centered around Matt and Ryan agreeing with DD and Julian about the game they were working on being shit but when DD and Julian went public about their opinions expecting to be backed up by Matt and Ryan (and others), they weren't and got effectively blacklisted for it.
Been there. LA, and the west coast especially as far as alt, internet nerds is the most toxic, naive, irresponsible, backstabbing, self righteous "community" ever. Live an hour north of Seattle and lived and traveled a lot up and down. They're just normal dudes from South Carolina from a small town like me and when people can't understand the way you walk, talk, laugh, or make people laugh etc. and don't like how you manage to go over boundaries comfortably, naturally, without fucking up and getting in trouble, they spotlight you and assume and look for anything to bring you down. "does not compute" ass woke nerds who make the left and progressives look bad by using political correctness for personal self interest and gain, instead of something bigger and better or representing a whole. It's an irresponsible abuse of what these ideals, and safeguards were made for, and is instead used in the logic of gossip and trendiness instead of justice and equity, or for the benefit of any actual victims, just virtue signaling and attempting to like bully people you think don't understand progressive ideals as much as you or something like its uncool, not because it's ethically wrong or something idk. Bunch of shy kids who internalize shit too much, can't communicate and are punishing others for their own insecurity.
im honestly in shock about all of this. i cant believe how many lying manipulative people genuinely thought they could get away with all of this. being mentally ill is not an excuse. im disgusted at how sexual assault and Daniels suicide were both weaponized for personal vendetta's. shame on all of these horrible self centered people.
The thing that really bothers me about this whole ordeal is that even if Ryan made jokes about Daniel's death, who the hell are we, or anyone else for that matter, to judge him for it? People handle loss differently, which includes making jokes about it to make light of the situation. The fact that it was brought up at all to try and cancel Supermega is honestly disgusting. Let the man rest.
Idk super mega or anyone involved but I do feel for them grieving and when I die I want my friends to make jokes about, not laugh at me but with me like I was there yk
@@TheMrrccavanah fuck you for that. I had a friend that hung himself in the basement of our shared house. I found him. I make jokes about the situation and other friends in our group do too. It's a way of trivializing what otherwise would be an extremely fucked event. Makes it easier to cope. You don't get to have an opinion on if it's "tactless" or not.
It’s a pretty typical coping mechanism. My family jokes about our deceased relatives and friends all the time. I got bit by a fire ant on my wedding day last week and my dad said “maybe my grandpa sent it to bite you”. I responded “he’d probably say it’s to toughen me up”. Or one time I saw a fake skeleton and said “Grandpa, is that you? No, its shoulders are too narrow.”
I make jokes about my dad who passed away when I was 14- definitely not constantly or with someone I am not familiar with/strangers but I do them every so often. For me and my little brother we definitely use it as a coping mechanism, something to brighten the mood while also acknowledging how messed up it all was. Again those types of jokes aren’t for everyone but holy shit, crucifying someone for how they cope in a (mildly) healthy way is fucked up. And quite literally exploiting and profiting off of a suicide victim is truly beyond me. Nick is awful, Ethan is awful, and so is Leighton. They all are
Fr some of us would be ecstatic to have that kind of money. Like $12,000 still isn’t a great living in the US but I mean it’s more than I’m able to get. I got a disability and chronic migraines that often prevent me from even being able to go to work, as of late it’s been so bad I’ve only gotten like $22 dollars a week. $12,000 sounds great.
Yeah this guy was making $72,000/yr to be incompetent, got a massive severance package that he didn’t deserve, and still cried and complained about it online. Some people are just evil for no reason man
@@basedtortelliniI also get chronic migraines, is that something you can claim disability for? Is there any drawbacks to claiming disability, does it stop you from anything important in life?
Crying about 2 months severance is the most entitled thing ever. That’s so much more money than like any normal person gets when fired if anything at all
I've been fired before and I got nothing after working really fucking hard to hold up this company for 3 years. It was rough so hearing this makes my blood boil.
used to be an avid nickisnotgreen watcher until i realized all his content gives "im such a good person and if you disagree im going to come after you"
I've never really followed SuperMega beyond their involvement in Game Grumps so the first part of this video had me thinking "damn this sounds pretty indefensible," but then the second part hit. Everything about Matt's response and the extensive evidence he showed makes me think he's a genuinely good dude and I feel bad that he got dogpiled like this. If anything, Matt and Ryan's response to this whole situation just makes me think they need to stop being so accommodating to people who are clearly unstable. It's wild to me that Lex somehow managed to spin "they let us crash rent-free for months in an extremely high COL city and even offered to pay for us to live somewhere else" into "they made us homeless" and people just thought "yeah that checks out."
Good intentions, sure, but after the veerryyy obvious fence-sitting attitude he'd shown to DingDong and Julian after previously backing them after they went public with their thoughts on Dream Daddy, nah. Scumbag move motivated solely by self preservation.
I didn't know about any of this "drama" till watching this video, but I genuinely can't imagine The Grumps keeping them around as long as they did if Matt & Ryan were any where near as awful as these people claim. Dubious from the start, and I'm glad to see the overwhelming evidence in their favor.
But she also somehow thought that throwing some of the garbage from the mountains of food everyone there constantly ordered from Grubhub/whatnot. Was totally worth a free room in LA forever apparently.
The fact she is blaming her own lack of communication on everyone else is insane plus her whole “homeless” shtick is just her showing how absolutely entitled and spoiled she is
Yeah ive been sa'd multiple times and it's legit frustrating when people try to act like the other person is supposed to know that x was too far and you went along because you were scared to say something. That doesn't mean your feelings aren't valid, you can still be hurt by things you didn't actively fight against. It just means 1. It's not gonna win in court. 2. You need to work on that or it will happen again.
There are so many red flags in the accusations. One that really sticks out to me is Lex making a point multiple times about how she actively avoided talking about issues in ways that would leave receipts. She frames it as trying to avoid her story getting leaked or something? But it seems awfully convenient that doing so also makes it harder for Matt and Ryan to disprove any accusations about what they may or may not have said since it was all in calls or in person.
another one i picked up on was how lex kept harping on being “homeless and having nothing” even though she said “we knew they wanted us out so we got as much of our stuff as we could.” also her saying “we were living there rent free! we didn’t owe them anything!” is absolutely crazy to me. you live in someone’s space for FREE for MONTHS and don’t think you owe them decency at the very least? jesus christ have some gratitude
Ive seen girls like Lex too often. They are emotional wrecks and have terrible communication skills, entering casual situations irresponsibly and suddenly a guy is accused of SA when he thought she was totally into it because she didnt have the courage to speak what she wants. She mentions multiple times situations where she clearly did not communicate what she wants and just 'went with it'
@@inframatic i don’t want to outright say she wasn’t assaulted, as accidental sexual assault can occur, and being a victim of that is very real and shouldn’t be overlooked. however, don should be given some grace, in the case that it is accidental assault. lex tried to simultaneously paint it as an accident and as an intended assault, and it obviously cannot be both. based off of what don said in his statement, it was absolutely an accident and he didn’t intend to hurt her. he very well may be traumatized from it as well, living with the guilt of unintentionally violating someone. situations like this are incredibly complicated, but i absolutely believe that she shouldn’t be treating the situation like he sought out the opportunity to assault her
@@lizroszel265 okay so, then it wasn't assault, due to the fact that if it was an accident, as you can't accidently assault someone, as Assault by Florida state law requires it to be intentional, which by Florida State Law it wouldn't even be make it to court, even more so since in this case, it was a consensual act, that due to her having a mouth ulcur and his... well thing rubbing against it due to him being used to have a bit of force, caused it to rub against her ulcer, thus under Florida state law, due to the fact there was prior consent, Don would not be prosecuted under the statute that covers sexual Battery, Florida Statute 794.011, if you want the full statute to look over. other than that, Lex is a liar and Don has indeed been done dirty by her, as has Super Mega.
"Your comedy gaming youtube channel with 1,000,000 subscribers is nothing to be proud of because you use crude humour, unlike my band "Queef Jerky" which is definitely something I'm proud of" - nick
The Morgpie stream is by far the funniest of the call outs because the story essentially boils down to her and Matt hooking up (With both aware it would be a one time thing) and then Morgan fell in love with him and he ghosted her and that's literally the entire story
i can’t believe people didn’t bully her harder for that? like she exposed this man intimate details and accused of him cheating with no evidence cause she got curved. crazy man
I still think he’s guilty. These pervs have got to stop getting away with this, and Tom is just enabling predators. He should get demonetized in my book
this enrages me, the way she describes these situations you would think she is a three year old baby with late stage alzheimers, her constant confusion is legendary, her ability to perceive her surroundings and actions is missing entirely, from her description of these events i would have to assume that life for her is just a slideshow of the 5 minutes per day she has object permanence
She seems to muddy the waters as much as humanly possible so that when this comes back to bite her she can just walk back her statements and claim that she didn't make any declarative statements, as if she knew there was more to come and possible legal actions taken. If that wasn't the goal, it sure is convenient that she put things that way ahead of rest of the allegations that were raised.
When you’re dabbed out constantly (or edibles maybe) you basically become a three year old baby with Alzheimer’s. I know they don’t grow their own so its definitely roided out 502 grow shit.
@@retrohanska4441 its literally this. She's actually a machavelian master mind pretending to be clueless, innocent, and pathetic to garner sympathy, all while its true purpose is to mask everything behind a veil so that people have no choice but to go along with her narrative alone, without having any actual facts to back anything up. Its also really hard to concretely defend oneself when there's no real physical evidence to refute. She purposely early on kept repeating "I didn't want my messages recorded, I didn't want chats for there to be screenshots" and she paints this as a 'privacy' thing. An 'anti-doxxing' thing. Her being nervous, and scared. But in fact its a ploy to make clearing the record as hard as possible, while being able to lie straight through her teeth better. The less details you give while lying, the easier it is to pass the lie, as there is less to pick apart.
Yeah shawty goes “he just starts making out with me and I didn’t like it then disappears and tells me to come into the closet, and I dunno what he was doing so I went into the closet and he kissed me again” 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ there has to be no brain-activity going up there boys
@@ihateanimebutonlywhenitiso7227 Oof. We're approaching Chris Chan levels of inability to understand or make conscious rational decisions. Does she want to be treated like Chrus chan, because she certainly seems incapable of making any cognitive emotional legal mature adult decisions on her own.
@@ReosirWasGone Mainly this is directed towards Matt but when Ding Dong was being slandered and bullied by Game Grumps over the whole Dream Daddy crap, Matt didn’t wanna associate with Ding Dong and Julian anymore because being friends with them could ruin his “Magnum Opus” which I find really scummy but that’s just my opinion. Also I never really liked watching their vids
Soooo she wants us to be mad that they guys let her stay in a place rent free and didn’t give her a deadline to move out? And then Matt had the audacity to offer getting her an apartment (cause she was messy af). The lies just didn’t even make sense! Why did anyone believe this crap? I feel so bad. Matt seems just so genuinely sad for these people who took advantage of his kindness.
Straight up, Lex came across as super entitled and self absorbed. Listen, SA is horrible and admittedly Matt should've handled it better (as he said in his own video), but he's not responsible for her housing, nor is he to blame for her being "homeless". She's an adult, she didn't pay rent, she wasn't "pressured or pushed" out of the office, she left of her own validity. Jesus.
they even said (rav and lex) that they've been viewing places but nothing struck their fancy. claiming to be forced to be homeless when you 100% can afford a home, you're just being picky because you want your dream place is kinda wild
@@Joshuamiller19570 Judging by this video alone, it certainly seems that way. However, there's no need to question whether it happened or not, even if it happened she's still a terrible person.
Ding Dong put it best when he said that the entertainment industry is just non stop ppl hurting one another to get on top. It’s no coincidence that Ethan and Nick dropped a new song and promoted it along this smear campaign. If only all those kids who dream of being massive youtubers could know what a nightmare it can end up being.
Yeah let’s go ask any random homeless person off the street if they could purchase a newer jeep and stay at a hotel for 2 weeks, while ordering food and buying things on Amazon. This generation is truly spoiled rotten, not being completely opulent is now considered homeless status to young people.
Not to mention that they were smoking weed all day, every single day. That is not cheap. Oh, and she also could have went back to her parents home at any time but she just didn't want to do that. So yeah, she had never experienced homelessness in her life
Please don't have this impression of young people, many of us are struggling and could face homelessness at any time because of financial insecurity which these spoilt LA kids obviously don't understand. I live in a homeless shelter, I know many people who've been on the street and are even younger than me, please have faith in us. What you're seeing is just niche internet celebs who think they're hot shit and have a victim complex.
@critastic @@volkatthew I second this. these spoiled individuals on the face of the internet with thousands-to millions of views, absolutely do not represent the whole youth of our nation- or any nation at that. and it's sad that the rest of us will get thrown under the bus because of this. I'm trying so hard out here, and this girl is just....I can't even put it into words, it's infuriating. It's really demoralizing.
"they wouldn't ask so many questions if they'd believe me" is such a stupid and irrational take. No one should just believe someone based on nothing. If you want someone to believe you you should give them something they can believe in regardless if they are friends or not because it is just a logical thing to do.
@@meyeneetuks4680 Eh, my only argument against this is, do you really need ALL the details for an SA case to be legitimate? Like, if you approach the accuser and either they fall apart and admit or something similar, you call it then and there. You only scrutinize for me if you absolutely have to. I agree that Lex is in the wrong, but I feel like some commenters are going in the full opposite "No they should've asked as much as they possibly could in an SA case" when really they just needed to do even just a little more to be effective, which they agree with. Sorry I know that's kinda tangential but I find that discussion a bit interesting to have too.
@@ShyRanger@ShyRanger Maybe not ALL the details but there is a realistic expectation that we ask questions. This stuff is extremely sensitive and can be very hard to prove. There are also a lot of bad actors (as we know) who just say shit because they feel like it. I mean supermega even has a reddit page who just schemes their downfall like rats by manufacturing outrage. We MUST ask questions so that people like supermega doesnt get all the flack but we also have to give the benefit of the doubt to the victims. The internet likes to take things at face value regardless if it is bullshit or not. People still get scammed from logan pauk for example despite having many scams.
@@ShyRangerwell when Its in a case like this when its an SA that involves not only two friends but two employees having some detail is probably needed
she's literally a glorified groupie who takes financial advantage of the men in her life and when something bad happens to her she's dumbfounded that the men in her life protecting her like a little princess and fighting her battles for her. Those "content creators" used her as a weapon in order to spite super mega and she went along with it simply due to the fact that she has now found a different group of men to be their groupie and will do anything to get ahead in their circle. This kinda shit ain't new, but with the rise of social media, narratives can be spun in all different kinds of directions.
I think Lex probbably has a more active role in things then people consider. Shes not a pawn she was the whole lynchpin of the operation. She had a very active role in the hitjob.
@@frohawkmaster Honestly, the fact that she didn't want her relationship with Don to be public and she cut him off on the podcast and only shared the "assault" with Ethan after he got word that they were dating in order to deny the validity of the relationship reeks of her trying to flirt/play girlfriend with multiple guys and she's trying to cover her ass. Edit: Ha! I posted this before getting to the part where she's polyamorous. Ofc she is.
And then even admits to having to "go back home to Tennessee" UMM IF YOU HAVE A HOME IN TENNESSEE, YOU ARE NOT HOMELESS???? I really wish she would stop using the term "homeless" to describe her situation...
I'm a little late to this video. But speaking as someone who actually used to be homeless for a year and a half. I know exactly how it feels to not have a roof over your head, not having a safe place to go, sleep, eat, charge a phone, wash clothes, having to walk around aimlessly for 18 hours a day. The fact that they weaponized the idea of being homeless to create a narrative that people in SuperMega were deliberately putting this stress on them, when they had a home to go to, they had cars and an airbnb. Like that's just disgusting to me. It's just a pure example of privilege. Acting like they know how it feels to be unsafe and vulnerable everywhere you go. Unbelievable.
The lack of response from nick, ethan, and morgan is so disgusting. Every post on nicks instagram is flooded with comments asking when he's going to address any of the lies he spread and hes just ignoring them all. Saw him liking and replying to dozens of comments that are just generic dickriders but they are buried under like half a dozen people calling him out with 100s of likes.
I barely believe Lex was assaulted. Cause man SA is serious, and I don't wanna just not believe her....but she is such a liar that she probably made it all up.
@@dog_1458I believe she was assaulted too. But she totally lied about everything else, including Jim. She even specifically says she never told him no, went along with everything, but her claims he assaulted her for kissing her WITH consent. Is it weird to kiss someone in that moment? Yeah kinda, but he claims he specifically said “can I kiss you” and she said yes. Genuinely insane behavior to turn around and call him a predator. Also to lie about her living situation and how Matt treated her. every text he sent her was extremely sweet, and caring.
She takes no accountability either, it's frustrating and disgusting. From making her problems other peoples problems to straight up throwing irrelevant lies out from her BPD compulsive liar friend.
Lex claiming homelessness and being unable to afford to go home, but has the money to get Airbnb's, a car, go on vacations etc? She's just mad that shit isn't handed to her, EVEN WHEN IT IS!
I've been more functionally "homeless" while having an address (as I didn't have a bed and slept on the floor at one of my places because I couldn't afford even a mattress).
I've noticed this about a ton of youtubers. (ehm, oompaville. Sad situation, but bruh). They go through a minor period of time where they are between homes and they doubledown to say they're homeless for pity points. You have people you can stay with. You had prep time to make sure you didn't have to be in that situation. You have funds you could have better allocated to make sure you had a place. I know they technically didn't have a home of their own at that point in time, but i feel like its a slap in the face of people struggling with homelessness to call such a temporary and cushy situation 'homelessness'.
@@kiraeckard7625 I don't think most TH-camrs who say that legitimately believe they are homeless or expect others to think they're on the street. Its just hyperbolic statements, it's ironic as hyperbolic statements usually start with "literally" now so it is confusing but it's pretty easy to pick up who wants pity and who doesn't, Oompaville is the only TH-camr you mentioned that I have watched, and for him I'm sure it wasn't pity points for "being homeless" he jokes around and pretty much always in character
I feel so bad for supermega. All they wanna do is be goofy and bring laughter to people online, and they keep getting the worst possible luck with the shittiest possible people.
Which should tell you, they're not mature enough to actually handle real life situations that require forethought and common sense and really shouldn't be doing content anymore.
@@larkan511 people do good things knowing they might suffer as a result not because they want a better future. But rather they want to create a better present/future for someone else. "no good deed goes unpunished" but if you're willing to risk suffering, you can change other's lives
“nothing to do with” is a bit of a stretch. Don was an employee of theirs, and Lex was their friend. Is it not SM’s place to make their friend feel safe?
@docsamurai9199 still even legally, they couldn't do anything. Lex herself needed to reach out to authorities. They also wanted to get Don's side as he was also a friend
Imagine if you worked for a company and someone came to your boss, alleged SA and they didn’t do their due diligence to get all the details before taking action against you. That would be a lawsuit. As an employer, they have a job to find out all the information before taking action. It sucks, yes, but they can’t just fire people Willy Nilly. There has to be documentation.
“Someone assaulted me” “This is very serious. Please tell me what happened, so I can conduct a proper investigation.” “Ewwwwwwww that’s so creepy! Why would you ask me personal questions????”
She thought that because they were friends, they wouldn't do due diligence. Which, as someone who is trying to start a company and bring on some of my friends to help out, is something we can't do professionally. That's just bad ethics
@stellarstar6553i agree that it’s really hypocritical to call him a “weenie” for not making a move, but i do want to say that the rest of your comment is really not it and super victim blamey. not every person facing abuse will react the same way, some people would easily get out asap while others will stay to try to make it better or even stay because they’re convinced it’s not actually abuse even if it is
@@jadeelissIt’s not “victim blamey” (first off, talk like an adult, unless you’re a kid, which come to think of it you probably are). It’s factual. She’s a grown ass woman with a mouth, she can communicate and say no. You’re just splitting hairs.
My mum lost her best friend to suicide a couple years ago. Shes always makes fun of it that’s how she copes. She always implied if she didn’t she’d probably end up joining her. It always annoys me when people judge people for coping like that because it’s a very real coping mechanism.
Every time I hear the part about her complaining that Ryan was going to pay for her to get an apartment for several months it leaves me mindblown every time. Imagine you're crashing at someones place, they think you should go. you have no right to be there and yet they still offer to give you money for a place and then act like its a shitty thing to do? Like wtf with those mental gymnastics? So infuriating.
It's textbook psycho/sociopath shit dude. Woman's a predator. She doesn't want to have to do any work. She weaponized a SA against people who were done giving her handouts.
Leighton cried on stream and made a huge deal over Ryan misgendering his ex. Then, not only he discovers Ryan's ex was gender fluid, but he also misgendered them while also calling Ryan a monster for "supposedly" doing the exact same thing lmfao. I honestly don't give these things much importance, but this gets me thinking, if Leighton was able to cry and be visibly distraught over retelling his view of Ryan misgendering someone, you don't get to do the same without knowing, then find out you messed up in the exact same way, and then be like "Yeah, let's brush it off, alright?" lmfao, this really gives you an idea of how much these things actually matter to Leighton, or rather "how little" these things truly matter to him.
Leighton is the epitome of “I’ve grown from edgy content”. They joke police everybody, cry about how this person was x-y-z to them, yet still do the same behavior behind close doors. It was never about ethics, just clout.
@@paperbag4477 Dude, i've seen it a bunch of times now lmfao "Heh! You still watch edgy content? Don't you know that's problematic and childish? I have grown out of it for a long while, maybe you should try being mature and more adult like me instead of acting like a teenager, those things were NEVER funny to begin with dude, you should try doing stuff that actually matters and be an actual adult, like me ;) " -Proceeds to be the most toxic and scummy human being in real life.
@@hermeschase4113literally saw a guy in another video commenting that everyone interested in this drama are too “chronically online” then they brag about watching every video Nickisnotgreen has put out and will continue to do so
Leighton is a clear manipulator and sociopath. He just wanted to ruin SM and is smiling the whole way. SM made some mistakes, but human ones. Leighton has been trying to capitalize on anything possible. It honestly has nothing to do with ideology and all to do with what you can abuse to get what you want
Bro why is no one talking about the part where Leighton described the "trauma" of seeing Matt and Ryan compare assholes? That shit was so funny. Ah yes 2 consenting adults exposed themselves in the comfort of their own building to compare one another's buttholes. Really terrible crimes, too bad Leighton couldn't have just closed his eyes. He was subjected to saw level TORTURE.
The entire “homeless” dialogue is really frustrating.. They have a free place to live for months, they are offered thousands of dollars for housing… that’s the opposite of homeless.. and then she has the audacity to complain about the massive hotel room with a hot tub that felt “trafficy”.. reality check most of us don’t stay in massive hotel rooms with hot tubs or sporadically buy brand new Jeeps…
Leighton is quite the evil "genius" isn't he? Dude made sure to include the LGBT, his mental illness, and a guy's (whom he never met) suicide in his expose video to make sure nobody would dare call him out on his bullshit. Even added tears for bonus points.
It pays to portray yourself as a victim. It keeps people from holding you accountable when you speak lies since you can dismiss them as being homophobic or whatever
On top of him weaponizing Daniel's suicide (which I don't even have to explain why that's horrible), him outing Ryan's partner as non cisgender when that person wasn't out publicly is vile, and as a gay man himself, you'd think that would have crossed his mind (not to mention that that person actually does go by he/him pronouns as they're nonbinary, so Ryan didn't actually misgender them in the first place).
cause it unfornatly works take the youtube hyojin for example one of the key false accusers agasint slato while everyone else was getting cancled she pulled the "waaaa you making depressed by calling you bullshitte im gonna blam myself" and everyone stopped critizing her and she went on to false accuwser more people shamelessly.
Thank you for covering this. I was sick to my stomach seeing how their audience turned on them on a dime. I was an OG Grumps fan, and always loved Matt and Ryan's humor. I can't believe a huge portion of their fanbase bought into this as a valid reason to drive them into giving up on the channel.
Yeah I felt like I couldn't find anyone who stayed a fan. It really wasn't hard to look at the info and realize it was a smear campaign, considering all the times the stories changed on the accusers end. And then factor in all the irrelevant things they brought up just to elicit negative emotions towards the boys 🙄
@@6millioncats I stuck around and even tried to defend against all the attacking on Twitter with solid evidence as shown, people will set pure evidence aside to get whatever they want it’s insane
I legit believe a majority of the people blasting them on Twitter were not their fans. I was a patreon patron and it was just hundreds of support comments. They legit got brigaded from band wagon idiots looking to be offended.
It's not their audience in fact I'm a super mega butthead and those were randoms from other places. SM had above 1mil and they are now 952k the patreon is still open and meg heads like myself check in once in awhile for updates. People can follow a creator and not be apart of their active audience or even like them. True super mega fans were being talked over ignored or written off by the loud influx of shitty people, people who just didn't care to get real facts yet, and SUPER MEGA HAS A HATE GROUP! Yes! There's a legit super mega hate group spanning way before this. So imo the fans never turned against them WE waited WE know the personality of these boys and how they approach personal important subjects as shown before. I'm a woman and I have to admit when it comes to female creators especially ones with egirl aesthetics and sexual shit on their platform their fans are zombies ready to attack for their princess even if she's the problem! Super mega had 2 or 3 fanbases attacking them NickIsUglyBabyBarfGreen, that ugly bowl haircut girl with bad eyeliner, and that one white dude no one remembers. That's 3 fanbases talking over megheads and attacking us too. People in the reddit tried insanely hard to speak up but the down votes were insane. It was too much for a rather dorky introverted fanbase. I was not about to get threatened by egirl crazed lunatics I trust my boys. Matt and Ryan have every right to step away they were attacking a man who committed suicide a sadistic predatory thing to bring up- no doubt money is tight as hell from the allegations because we know how media works- and maybe legal shit is going down. They aren't outspoken until it gets leaked about legal issues!
34:05 - 34:15 i'm sorry but this is so childish. so juvenile. is being taken off close friends in ig truly worth cancelling someone? the reason she's homeless is not because of these two people. she's homeless because of this level of pettiness and a mind-numbing lack of responsibility.
Holy sh*t all these creators in LA who are “broke” and claiming “homelessness” need to get over themselves and move somewhere cheaper & try to do something else with their lives.
The only victim who would be upset by any follow up questions are liars who are afraid of being exposed. It's hard to keep all the lies straight. People who are telling the truth don't need a good memory.
right? i think it's wild to think that large company owners wanting details and asking questions about a situation involving their STAFF is wrong. what kind of logic..
Which once again makes me believe the whole SA situation in the first place was mostly fabricated imo. I'm sure something uncomfortable happened but not to such levels that Lex makes it out to be. If it was legit, she'd have no issues with questions being asked.
nick: “this isn’t a situation where i look at all the facts and all that stuff, i’m gonna believe my friend when she comes out with this story because she’s my friend and of course i’m going to take her at her word no matter what” also nick: “i don’t make videos for personal vendettas, i don’t see how i am possibly capitalizing off of a victims story” 💀💀💀
I used to watch NickIsNotGreen semi-frequently. I am probably fairly far from the subgroup or demographic of people he refers to as “redditors/debate bros”, as I don’t necessarily always agree with some nuances that maybe Tom or etc express BUT Nick has become incredibly insufferable to listen to, even when he’s in the right. The way he frames his arguments (not necessarily saying this about things pertaining to this topic) is far from sufficient and he does 0 justice for the people like me he claims to support or align with. Same with Ethan Is Online too frankly. His commentary videos in general are rife* with formal or informal fallacies, and it is exhausting. I know this rant is probably pointless but this feeling has been sitting with me for months now, (before the Super Mega stuff) and I had to word vomit.
Yeah! and dev lemons too, i subscribed to their old videos then i saw the new ones and i hate how condescending they all sound and how obvious the lack of research of the topic went into their videos.
@@Mikoeditsfr I love Dev, but exactly. No one is perfect and Im sure Ive acted similarly (maybe condescending or ignorant on a topic) in private/around friends but I would try to filter myself more if in a published video. I know it’s easy to criticize from the outside looking in sometimes, so I don’t want to be “that asshole”. However, for example, Dev did not do the 5-10mins of research it would take to understand the burning man situation when she made a video about it/the events that occured. I can’t say it’s inherently indicative of anything persay, but there is a pattern Ive noticed and it is kind of disappointing. Her videos with Nick can come off as goofy, and sometimes they’re fun! But then there’s some videos that absolutely are just hot air. Im sure IF Nick sees this comment (not likely), I hope he’ll have the decency to take this criticism for what it is, and not project his own beliefs about who or what I possibly “subscribe” to as a person. But then again, Im a faceless nobody. It’s easy to disassociate from that and dismiss it as simply x y or z.
@@Tayl0r_ word, like they get more and more views and subscribers now especially after pinapple upside-down went viral so it feels like, very misinforming
i totally agree, i feel like lately him and ethan have been basing their content around personal attacks on people instead of actually caring about what they did wrong, it feels immature if u understand what i mean its like theyre excited to just dogpile on someone instead of having actual discussion
I agree about Nick, I started watching him bc of his interview on the Sad Boys Podcast but it’s becoming increasingly hard to watch his videos on any topic that isn’t clear cut black and white like the Colleen Ballinger. The way he talks about all levels of “conflict” like it’s got the same weight and importance def rubs me the wrong way. Like when he called Ashley’s husband cheating on her “drama” (Titktok Gel Lady involved in crazy drama) I understand that he’s doing this new online drama format to subsidize his real passion music, but since he doesn’t put any research into his videos it would def be better for him to stick to low stakes tiktok drama like the venmo girl or Redit AITA stories
I don't understand how Matt and Ryan caught more flack than the person actually accused of SA. This whole situation spiraled so out of control and people who freaked out at SM still feel like they're right. Ridiculous.
It's a big reason why I believe the SA allegation was blown way out of proportion. If I was actually abused, I wouldn't feel the need to go off on a tangent about the assaulter's friends 90% of the time to gain sympathy points.
That and both Lex and Don having moments of being lovey dovey months after the supposed incident.
Oh no he was completely wiped out of internet with a lot of death threats even though ALL the evidence supported his side of the story.
Lex won the Amber Heard 2023 title bring her the golden shit on the bed trophy!!!🏆
And when the allegations surfaced he refunded all the comission money to all the bloodthirsty believe all women leftoid's.
What a distinguished gentleman.
People should need to learn minding their own business in those he said she said situation and let the law deal with them.
Especially when you pretend to care about the situation over political brownie points.
@@blackdragon3748 Yeah, but early on in the drama you'd think SuperMega were the ones being accused of SA instead. Looking at their twitters, the hate was raining on Don, too, but it was a lot more volatile on Ryan and Matt's accounts.
@@oldoutlet6946there’s a specific text that Matt showed in his response between him and Rav where Rav said that after talking to lex it didn’t seem that serious. It really makes it seem like she’s told multiple versions of the story to people on top of the things she’s already lied about.
Hate to break it to Leighton, but two months’ severance after being fired is more than most employees get. Some people don’t get a dime if they’re fired; others get two to three weeks’ pay at most. The entitlement of these people is amazing.
It's at-will employment, he's lucky he even got a reason he was fired
my eyes rolled so far back my head when i heard him whine about that. i recently resigned and only got offered $200. buf complaining about how what was offered to him was not enough?? that's just insanity.
He's an white LA boy... he knows nothing about working an ordinary working class job.
And they were not legally required to give severance AT ALL. $12k is generous.
in my state, you don't get shit when you're fired or if you quit. if you're laid off, you get something. 12k was unbelievably generous, that's half of most people's yearly salary for fucks sake
Ryan had to see his best friend's lifeless body and Lex & Co. thinks they're in position to tell Ryan and Matt how to grieve over Daniel. These people are deranged.
It's worse than that, Daniel wasn't dead when Ryan found him. He died a few days later in the hospital.
That's what I've been wondering this whole damn time. Why do Lex, Nick, Leighton, and Ethan- four people who have NEVER met Daniel, and didn't even know him nor have any connection to him when he was alive- feel they have the right to use Daniel as ammunition against Matt and Ryan, his closest friends in life, and have the fucking audacity to tell them what they're allowed to joke about and how they should grieve?
It is absolutely fucking absurd, and I can't believe people are only beginning to talk about how ass-backward this situation is now.
I think one of the worst aspects of this sordid tale has gone completely unmentioned: Many of SuperMega's "supporters" totally bailed on them after these ridiculous made up bullshit allegations were made. How must that feel for Matt and Ryan?
yup, liberals
@aarondavis8943 People are free to bail, but the subreddit was absolutely unhinged. Disgusting and venomous.
The post that always stood out to me was a picture of Daniel with the caption "sorry you deserved better friends". Like holy shit, who the FUCK do you think you are?
"Not now, babe. I'm watching a TH-cam documentary about stuff I've never heard of before "
I was seeing who this SuperMega was after hearing they left game Grumps, then seeing they dipped out of town a few months ago. That led to this, which led to this drama. I have no idea who any of these people are, but I can form an opinion about the situation because I'm not a fan of anyone involved.
@iggins1679 yea i have no idea who any of these people are, edit: well i know these guys from markipliers videos from like 8years ago
oneyfan?
@@willnyanyan ?
I had to rewatch parts. Can't keep the characters straight
Lex stayed with them for three months rent free. Then Matt offers to house her for free, which she turns down. She buys a jeep on a whim which she has to sleep in for a single night. Then she stays in a hotel for a few weeks. Then drives home. All of that just to claim they made her "homeless." The fucking audacity of this shit is unreal.
being homeless isnt being in the streets begging for change loser, they absolutely made her homeless. hotels and a car are not homes, they do not provide true shelter especially if you’re a woman
I didn’t realize matt offered to pay for somewhere for her to stay and she’s like mmmm no thank you
Lex sounds like she needs BPD therapy jesus
@@nug9g you are literally wrong they didn't make her homeless she isn't going to sleep with you
@@nug9gyou just ignored that she had a house and was offered another house for free
If I decide to sleep in a hotel, am I homeless?
Interesting how she characterizes them letting her stay at their property rent free as "i was forced to clean up on my off hours, which means that i was paying THEM!"
Imagine being asked to clean up a rent-free apartment and whining about it. If it were me, i'd be offering to do laundry and treat them to a steak dinner once a month. But to her, it's basically slavery. Unreal.
That was unbelievably entitled... logic you'd expect from underaged kids who've never worked to live.
Yeah you cleaned the house for maybe $30 worth of labor. They saved you thousands.
She even admitted that she contributed to the mess.
Especially rent free in an LA apartment. That shit isnt cheap by any means.
I don't know how such entitled people can lack so much awareness
@@UnseenOcteasy. They're used to being coddled and enabled. Accountability is poison and extremely painful and an utterly alien concept. The longer they've been coddled and enabled, the more poisonous, hateful and intolerant, the more painful and alien and unreasonable the concept is to them. Narcissistic tendencies and social tendencies to protect "mental health" from the evils of responsibility accountability or consequences of actions. Because they're "disabled", and we should have sympathy. So much sympathy that we treat them like toddlers and hand wave away anything they say or do that causes harm because of their "disability". Even if the actions are horrific. Get out of jail free card by the perpetrators "mental health guys" followed by internet brigades who shout down anyone who disagrees or doesn't enthusiastically applaud them for their "disability". Because those people are bullies and bigots who don't care about "mental health".
As a supermega fan from the beginning, i felt disappointed when i saw this drama spark up, but my disappointment shifted to confusion almost immediately when i learned how little this situation actually has to do with Matt and Ryan
I don't understand how Matt and Ryan got the bad end of the stick anyway
@@jacobblackard2574I think cause of Allegations, of them ignoring the sa allegations and allegations of jokes about the suicide of a friend of them.
@@kenma5176except NONE OF THAT IS TRUE
cause this was all about emotional impact. Can't get much emotional impact from a dead man. Can get a lot of emotional impact from the faces of a (relatively) popular channel
@@kenma5176 so stuff that aint true.. and even if one of them was like the dead friend one its not related to what happened at all and kinda fucked to mention there dead friend and how they should be sad.
"I dont owe them anything, they weren't charging me rent". Well, most normal people would think youd at least owe them a smidge of gratitude, goddamn
I feel guilt whenever my dad gives me $20-$50 the few times i have free time to visit him (last time i saw him was last year in November for his birthday)
If i was giving housing with no rent i would feel like i do not deserve friends like them
@@GenesisBoi so true. My father helped me pay for my university and now I am a hard working individual. I decline everytime he tries to give me money (50$ for example) because I took enough already and instead I try to help them with stuff. Some people are just entitled brats
@@cumcumcum148 he just insists i take it likely partly in fue to always getting stuff for my younger brothers but nothing for me. (I rarely asked for stuff and im not his biological son)
@@GenesisBoi thats really sweet of him, i'm a sucker for stories about step parents trying to include all of the kids
and what did you not stop them thinking they were going to get out of this...
her saying the one guy who instantly took her side without asking any questions was the only one who ISNT a "yes-man" is so ironic it hurts.
Oh my god you are so right
Simp probably
@ville__definitely
@@Blazeinbluebecausewhynothe’s gay
A hat in time
Bro I've been actually homeless. Begging on streets homeless, abandoning every bit of shame and self worth you have so you can survive homeless, scrounging used needles for bits of bloody dope and stuff like that.... like this chick is so offensively privileged to be referring to herself as homeless in the situation she was in, and to talk about the trauma of it all and how it broke her.... I mean wtf.
I'm better now btw. Been clean for a few years.
Keep life going man! You're strong as hell
Proud of you internet stranger ❤️ you got this
She said she was homeless, but bought a Jeep
Fr tho all the people that are saying talking shit about the Mathew are a bunch of squares, liars, & fiends for attention. All of them are garbage
@@mariahcareysbiggestfartShe wouldn't need a damn car, she would need FOOD lmao
She says she was "made homeless". She lived rent free for months and was asked to leave. Then she went on vacation in her nice jeep. Then they told her to leave. They never kicked her out. She admits all of this. And this turned to spite and she made stuff up. Just like that.
That's the gist of what I understood. She was living rent free and was upset that they told her the find her own place.
Matt and Ryan should have never let so many ppl in close, their humor is grown 35/40+ type humor...when ppl weren't so fn sensitive and cry about every little joke. These fuckin kids these days wanna complain about every thing...claiming for everyone to get their pitchforks cuz their "feelings were hurt".
The sad part is, she's like 28 iirc so... she's a full grown woman. Which makes her trying to play it off like she's this small little girl worse
But yeah, I'm not putting the blame on them, but they should not have let all those people stay
@@jessmorri7194 Its even worse because Matt even said that theyd pay for to live in a place by herself and she just ended up refusing because of a reason I cant fathom.
We had a suicide in the family a few years ago and we joke about it sometimes to cope. It doesn’t mean we don’t care about him, or that we don’t miss him. It’s just that sometimes the pain is too much to handle without humor. He stills shows up in my dreams sometimes.
People needs to learn that everyone grieves differently.
Comedy is all about the audience and timing. Anything can be made into a joke.
Humour is one of the most common ways to cope with grief and trauma.
So true. There’s truth and humour to reality and sadly death is reality. It’s best to move forward in the only way some people know how ❤ best wishes. My loved one still comes in my dreams too
My brother OD'd and died, and I've done my grieving. I joke about him now, I laugh about the time we had, and I mourn in a more hapiful way now. Grieve the way that makes it easier for YOU.
My little cousin bumped his head and had a funny reaction right before my grandpa's funeral startes and at least half of us were laughing 😂 My grandfather would have loved that
the stream of ethan and lex watching supermega’s sub count go down is so sick, pretty much confirms she intended to destroy them over not letting her bum in their office.
Literal evil
They're petty leeches. They have nothing else going on in their lives aside from accumulating drama and burning someone else's money on fast food, expensive clothes, and shit from amazon.
This.
Hell it's not like they even kicked her out. She left out of her own choice because they weren't constantly reassuring her insecurity that living in their space of work is without issue
Hopefully Ethan reacts to his subs going down in the future.
Imagine someone offers you ten grand to get your own place and you're like "Nah, that makes me uncomfortable." Then larping you're homeless and then cry afterward that those people don't care about you
She has some issues, you can see it as she tells her story
I know, I was screaming at my phone: "Why? Why can't I find myself in this terrible, uncomfortable situation?" 😮💨
Call it a bribe if you want to, it's a heaven sent offer.
I got so angry when she said that, it was so hard for me to take her word for the rest of the video.
Its classic bpd/cluster b tard behavior. The grift must never end.
Not to defend her or anything but I understand how someone would find being given that much money sketchy, esp as a girl
Wait, so this WHOLE TIME, Lex wasn't even working for them?? And she was housed for free and they offered to pay months of backrent??? I completely assumed she was an employee holy sh*t... How entitled can you be, they were clearly going above and beyond to be great friends at every turn
Nick's whole beef with them is that they didn't do enough for her, as if they should have let her stay there until the end of time.
@@tanimal3964 They have a very warped concept of "friendship"
@@lil-soda-boi For some people, "friendships" and "relationships" are a purely transactional affair.
drop the lil tracy song
goat artist ily soda boi
Her entitlement really shows in her video, “I don’t owe them anything they said I could stay there” omg after Matt offers to house her and she denies it…
Like that specific point made me so irritated
@@jemimaclifordhemmings9488 RIGHT?!
"They wouldn't help us :("
Matt: "Here's months and months of living in LA, I'll pay for it"
"Omg he's clearly bribing me"
She's so out of her fucking mind. Such a god damn shame this psychotic twat ruined the lives of everyone at SuperMega.
she also specified how someone wouldnt offer you something like that for nothing, no one just gives someone a house out of the kindness of their heart
Denies it and tries to frame it as him "bribing her with hush money".
@@nug9g of course, they were seeking to have her out of their duplex lmao id do the same if I could.
I am a survivor of SA and also a trained Victim Service Advocate and the entire situation from the beginning made me uncomfortable. Something felt off. Nicksnotgreen can be more than bias and even manipulative in his content, he has even acknowledged that he’s gotten that feedback from other creators. Hassan Piker told him the problem with his content is, “he presents his opinions as facts.”
And discrediting a male victim of assault is the same grievance you are accusing SuperMega of except worse. I feel like he is saying, “Believe all victims…that I’m friends with. But don’t believe victims my friends don’t like.”
I've known many victims of sexual assault, listening to Lex stumble over exactly how everything happened is so fake. She does not sound convincing at all. She wasn't traumatized by anything that happened until it would become advantageous to do so in her mind
I know Tom's audience generally doesn't like Hasan, but I enjoy his content (mostly his non political stuff honestly ,as he has fun chemistry with a lot of people, including SM the boys) but I'm so glad he called Nick out. Given his disgusting unempathetic response to Ryan's note asking for accountability for tarnishing the legacy of Daniel and weaponizing his suicide against him and Matt (the ones actually affected by it), I hope more reasonable seeming people like Kurtis Connor drop his ass.
I've noticed it in his new videos where I thought he was interesting for being one of the few non neutral TH-camr
Trained in advocacy to, the first thing advocates should do after listening is to start giving the victim their power back. This begins with the open questions "what do you want to do about this?" and "what do you want me to do about this?". Supermega definitely made mistakes, it appears that they are learning. Anyone without advocacy training would. But I don't get why they were criticised for that and trying to establish facts.
Now when you have someone like Hasan Piker criticizes you for presenting opinions as fact, that's how you know you're doing something wrong.
It is actually INSANE that Nick ADMITTED to blindly believe his friend and ignore ALL THE FACTS.
incredibly this is very common. people think it's a virtue and that they're "true friends". it's actually insane, they think friendship is believing in everything the person says and accepting their every decision. Imagine if their friend got very depressed or addicted to drugs, they'd just enable them forever.
It’s not uncommon to take your friends/family/SO’s word on anecdotal experience; I’d take it one step further and say it’s usually what a good friend would do.
When you’re a content creator however, it’s a different story. You can’t make a heavily opinionated hit piece on someone just because you want to stick up for your friends.
You either keep an objective perspective by just recounting the accusations without inserting any opinions, or you wait until there’s enough information posted from both sides to make a subjective hairpiece.
That's pretty much the mindset of ppl who support the motto "believe all victims". They do not consider that the perpetrator/accused might be the victim.
yk like rex orange county, Johnny Depp, Slazo, Pyrocynical. Yeah they're ALL guilty. Women lying? women can't lie.
Trust but verify. Only a liar/manipulator gets offended when the truth is sought. If she was GENUINELY a victim, the truth will bear that out... but no, your "feelings" aren't facts: and regret isn't necessarily rape, sorry Alexis.🙄
@@pizletwizzler198 exactly, supermega tried to verify while also trusting her. nick will believe lex cuz shes his friend but supermega was friends with both lex and don so by nicks own logic doesnt it make sense that they wouldnt completely jump the gun on the whole situation?
ryan’s post at the end talking about his memories of daniel was so heartbreaking. i can’t imagine what this must feel like for him and matt. it takes such an insane level of narcissism to believe you have the authority to dictate how someone Really feels about the most traumatic event of their life, while knowing nothing about the situation yourself.
Ive lost a friend the same way they did. I cant imagine what id do if someone started accusing me of saying those kinds of things about my friend
It's the equivalent of scolding soldiers doing minor banters regarding a fallen brother
Man it's as if they were so close that they know that the fallen party wouldn't care and in fact would do the same because of the specific bond they made
@@Anne-ot8gqI’m so sorry you went through that
Seriously.
I lost my brother the same way that they lost their friend. I love him, and miss him every day. I often refer to him as a coward and talk crap about him, because my feelings tied to his memory are a huge jumbled mess that no one who has ever gone through any trauma of that level would fault anyone else for. These people trying to weaponize those often irrational, and always conflicting emotions tied to a loss like that tells me everything that I need to know about their motives.
This is why you hire employees, not friends.
But Leighton complained that they didn’t want to be friends with him 😂
Yeah or rely on as few people as possible because... it's very easy to get dragged down when just 1 person acts shitty.
Justin is the exception though, we love our little boy.
@@WorldBeansCan you blame them? Who’d want to be friends with some over-sensitive sissy who cries about offensive jokes made in the workplace?
@@ryenpdf yeah but idk if justin even started out as a friend.
Watching the internet turn on Nick in real time has been absolutely wild.
Has it? I liked Nick. He deserves the whole internet to turn on him for being so insanely irresponsible. Wish I could excuse it as a mistake but it’s to the point that it disgusts me. It’s clear that the disgruntled ex SM employee is pulling the strings on this and he’s most culpable but Nick can only be so much of a useful idiot before I have to condemn his character.
oh how the mighty has fucking fallen 💀💀💀
Nick is genuinely a Karen! He's so damn unlikable and is a straight up drama queen
I found his content okay, but his bits were fucking awful. He won’t be missed
I always felt like he was scummy af so it’s good to see the guy who u j didn’t rly fucked w got exposed for being shitty
Man her crying about them needing to be better cause they didn't kick her ass out to the streets or charge rent always gets me, like girl what are you even saying. As far as I'm concerned the only thing Super Mega is guilty of is being way to nice to people who don't deserve it.
Pretty girl syndrome and it's concequences on brain-dead mid chicks
I completely agree. She’s a spoiled little brat. Matt and Ryan showed her kindness, and she took advantage of them. She didn’t like being kicked out after living rent free for MONTHS, so she took that opportunity to start slandering them, and trying to deplatform them. I hope she gets the karma she deserves.
@@TangyNav Yeah like she really self reported on herself in her own video, you don’t make road trip plans while being homeless and staying at someones place, as someone who had someone take advantage of me in a very similar way this one was a big oof, I really hope the boys recover from this unfortunate incident.
@@Yeen_Beans Yeah. It’s absolute bs that she claimed she was “homeless”. Like, if she can afford a vacation, Amazon packages, and to buy an ENTIRE JEEP, she is obviously lying. Not to mention, people with ACTUAL trauma do not like talking about it. Let alone having the entire internet know. And yes, both Matt and Ryan deserve peace after this whole mess. They didn’t deserve to go through any of what happened. I hope this break they’re taking is helping them recover
Lmao I thought lex was like in her early 20s so it would make sense for her to be couch surfing, but finding out she's like 29 and homeless makes it way funnier, how you gonna be nearly 30 and living in an office.
It’s wild how lex says she only had one grievance but then adds a hundred other grievances to the story after the fact
i thought that was only nick who did that, did he add extra context that wasn't in his stream?
I can't tell whose worse, Lex or Leighton... I'm sitting here working 12 hour days 6 days a week and I don't have $100 to take my son to the theme park... Her trauma is being stuck with tens of thousands of dollars for vacations, gas, and some of the most expensive air BNBs in the world in fucking Hollywood.
The extreme privilege spewing from these people are actually making me nauseous.
@@adambonesaw3689
to make a living off of shit that’s basically half real (terminally online contrived drama) will most certainly rot the brain. It’s so disconnected and takes EVERYTHING for granted.
The older I get, the more grumpy I get about all these young and wealthy mid twenty year olds dying inside because they are unfulfilled and don’t realize it. I don’t feel envious or miffed about their income, I’m just upset that a lot of online “creators” can’t escape the delirium of the internet, or maybe the delirium of perceived success;
gotta get their hands in the dirt, earn a few years of callouses, spend less time on the internet. Makes a difference when you come back a few years later lol, even when the entire ecosystem of the internet has changed dozens of times by then.
@@adambonesaw3689dude Ik it’s fucking wild how these privileged people be whining so much about this
@@Marco-Sheep while at the same time thinking the words from their mouth should garner sympathy...
I always love when people with self-proclaimed crippling anxiety are always more willing to talk about issues on camera to thousands (potentially millions) of people instead of just speaking to the one or two people they have a problem with in the first place.
Yeah I know right, it's like watching Michael Cera do a Ted talk. SA is serious. A lot of the issue seems to be about her friends attitudes or reaction, not about the actual SA.
I get it but what can they do, what are they supposed to do? And now airing it on the internet, to more completely unrelated people. I don't get why this behavior is encouraged or looked at like normal. This would give me more anxiety than anything in life..
So much weird behavior is encouraged or at the least is accepted in this day and age
@dangbruhskyy to be fair I think a lot of these internet personalities have warped ass brains.
She's clearly some kind of sociopath. She liked using other people so she can get hers. She takes half naked photos for simps hoping she could siphon money from teen boys. She clearly doesn't want to work and just wants hand outs. When thr handouts stopped it was her time to leverage a horrible situation to benefit her. It didn't affect her, it was just something she could weaponize in the future
@@dangbruhskyy yeah most people wouldn't do it in a way that was clearly done for their own leverage. Most people don't use serious trauma as weapon to get revenge when handouts are stopped. Lex is a leech
@@experssion123 the level of maturity represented here compared to level of accusation is night and fuggin day lol. every relationship as a teenager i typed some ghoulish angsty shit on Facebook🤣 but dam this bitch grown af drinking alcohol in la making bad decisions. still hit you with a 3 hour upload tslkin shit 🤣🤣🤣🤣
SA accusation is serious on both sides too.. nah this bitch get the whole chicken sandwich economy locked up if she find chick fil a drive thru.. "my pleasure" huh.. last one u gonna have🤣🤣🤣criminal
jokes aside 🙏 fellas be safe out there dont let a e girl take your freedom
as someone who has watched Nick, he admits he puts out the videos ASAP even if he doesn’t have the full story. so obvious he literally did not gaf for this story too despite how SERIOUS these allegations are. life damaging allegations are not just some funny tiktok drama to go over, he should’ve done his research.
In his first video he was giddy about following this story because he was dunking on SuperMega. In his follow up video he was decrying having to make these videos and how it's not fun for him to follow this serious story about his friends SA...
Yeah okay, but Nick has done multiple videos without proper research before, this wasn’t a one time thing. I hope you can realize how terrible people like Nick and Ethan are, and unsub and stay far away from them.
Do you still watch Nick or did you decide to stop being braindead and consuming the worst content on youtube?
If my friend told me they get sa'd im not waiting to do "research" to defend them. I would just believe them and I'd expect the same
@princezeekie9311 What you specifically would do doesn't matter because you are irrelevant. This is a matter that involves people's livelihoods and reputations, so immediately tossing out a video without zero evidence is not only braindead but also potentially illegal if you are found out to be lying. Go rot in a basement, average nick enjoyer.
The worst part is, the damage is done. There’s never a mass retraction that tells everyone that they’re innocent. Everyone who believed the lie will believe it indefinitely. It takes more than a video like this to clear a person’s name.
When I hear people defend an accusation with “why would they lie?” Because people lie. Some people lie simply because they help themselves. I have known many liars. Most do it to protect their own self image. A coping mechanism to divert responsibility of ones own actions. I knew one girl that just wanted the drama. Like she fed on it.
People lie. It’s not a gender thing, it’s a human thing. Question everything until given enough evidence.
Edit: Using Daniel as a means of smearing Matt and Ryan is inexcusable. Even if it were true. That should always be off limits. I believe Matt and Ryan on this. I remember when Daniel’s death was revealed. I remember seeing the grief in Mark on his channel as well as Matt and Ryan on Cyndengo. It was clear they loved him and would never forget him. I don’t even think they’d grieve with humor. Outside of funny memories they had with Daniel.
I remember when Daniel died too. I didn’t even know about matt and Ryan and his channel at the time
Cancel culture most of the time is a flop. J.K. Rowling had more book sales during her "cancellation". Tony Hinchcliffe's show, Kill Tony, blew up once it returned after it was "cancelled". Shane Gillis career is better than ever after being tossed aside by SNL, although to be fair he would rather be doing skits. Joe Rogan Experience is still the largest podcast in the world despite the media's constant attacks. That being said there is a list of huge no nos you avoid and from my understanding Supermega had done anything major. The only thing I can see hurting them is Ryan's involvement with fans and cheating on his then girlfriend. Assuming none of them were underage, that's something that can be forgiven but remembered. That being said, the fans are overwhelmingly supporting them. This will correct the beliefs of some of those who believed in the lies and make new fans.
Matt and Ryan just have to decide if they can forgive themselves and wish to continue. They're some good dudes. Ryan is pretty torn up with his actions, and I can tell he expresses deep regret. I really hope he can make peace with himself and give Supermega a second chance. Both Matt and Ryan will see the world not only forgives them but see they did their best in a messy situation. Especially with Turkey Tom's help they'll be making a grand return, if they decide to.
I mean even if Matt & Ryan did joke about Daniel’s death, who cares? They’re his friends. Ryan especially had more loyalty to Daniel than anyone in that house. Ofc he can get get away with harsher jokes.
well idk theres plenty of people whose minds have been changed and are now on supermegas side. i didnt know anything about the situation other than watching nicks and lexs videos on it and thought supermega were awful people (i didnt even know who they were before this drama so it didnt really affect anything much). now i know it was a complete lie and from matts and ryans response videos they seem like very sensible people and ten times smarter and better people than lex and co will ever be.
consider this even more unfortunate reality; there are some people who are NEVER vindicated after being smeared and their credibility destroyed. they have no online presence (or cant) and those who could not just bring that person a sense of closure but also present a story with its missing pieces finally in place. this is why i kind of detest most youtubers. unless its beneficial to them somehow ultimately covering a story of injustice or calling out bad actors is of zero real concern.
perhaps its because im considerably older but i dont jump to any final conclusion on a matter until i have been able to fully evaluate it from as many angles as reasonably possible. i also react to witnessing something potentially criminal by treating it like a crime. same reason if i were to witness someone get mugged in front of me i wouldnt be tweeting about it id be helping the person report it and offering to be a witness.
this isnt to discredit or dismiss the impact of the situation but from what was described i struggle to think of any state law where it would be considered assault. this doesnt mean it wasnt wrong and caused harm but assault is misleading esp when taking into account what would fall under that definition typically.
theres also nothing weird about someone wanting to know the potential severity or extent of what happened when disclosing that kind of thing. this doesnt mean details but some frame of reference is needed to understand what the appropriate response would be. say for instance the incident involved being drugged/unconscious by the person. that is an important factor that absolutely changes the response.
i think those who have had more valid reasons for being given a voice are exactly the ones who wind up never being heard and not for a lack of trying.
The reason why Matt and Ryan asked questions...IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO! If anybody could say an employee of a company SA'd them, and they knew that employee would get fired, people would abuse it all the time. I'm for believing the survivor and supporting them, but when employment comes into play, employers NEED to ask questions. I'm not saying how they handled that situation was perfect, but then again, believing your boss is your friend never has a good outcome.
It's not even just a matter of employment. Both Don and Lex were friends of theirs. How irresponsible it would've been for them to blindly believe one friend and cut the other out of their lives based on hearing only one side of the story.
Yeah I was pretty impressed with the stupidity of saying that they shouldn't have asked any questions at all and just blindly believe her. Because there has never ever been a case of false allegations.
@@raychapman1134I'm still watching the video, but I just heard him say that and I had to pause and come to the comments looking to see if anyone else found that as stupid as I did. Thank you.
Yeah, I don't like how in his response Matt is like "I shouldn't have asked questions" like no, dude, you should have asked _more_ questions. I wish we could believe any accusation anyone makes but unfortunately that's not the reality we live in.
@@L33PL4YAnd they basically did that lol
"i was doing what a maid would be paid to do!!"
..you mean cleaning up _your own fucking messes?_
honestly, i have a lot to say about this, but all i’m going to is that i’m just happy ryan is going after all of them for tarnishing respect for his late friend and using his death as ammunition for unrelated drama. it’s disgusting, how can you care about mental health and SI all while going after the people who have lost loved ones to it? bringing a completely unrelated situation up in such a disrespectful way? that’s traumatizing as it is. the pain of losing someone that was that close to you doesn’t ever actually go away, it’s something you learn to deal with. obviously these people have no respect for that
Yeah I can only imagine how much those comments bothered him to the point of making another statement. The craziest thing to me is that none of those dipshits apologized. They tacitly admitted they made the Daniel stuff up but STILL refuse to do the barest minimum and own up to it. Sociopaths fr.
I guarantee they purposefully misinterpreted Matt and Ryan's jokes about Daniel, which is a more heinous thing to do than joke about a horrific loss you and your friend both experienced. What are they supposed to do, break down into tears every time they hear about suicide?
To some of these people its not about SA, Trauma and such, nah, its The Image of it that matters.
Did you see that the Cyndago channel was fucking hacked now too?
@ville__nup! Who tf are you?
When people talk about "male feminists" they're talking about people like Nick and Ethan. I remember this Tiktok where somebody said "name a creator who panders to female viewers by reacting to red pill/alpha male content and provide the most surface level critiques known to man so that they can get laid" and the most liked comment was somebody bringing up Nick, and then Nick had a panic attack on Twitter (bro was having a full on identity crisis, it's like when a Scooby Doo villian is unmasked, like "oh shit they found out my secret").
What do I search to read about this? I wanna see the tweets.
The most accurate description of Nick and Peethan I’ve seen
They're the same kind of people to call other people "pick-mes" even though the male feminist stereotype is a textbook example of a pickme.
yeah nick and his fans always came off as feminists who hate men and provide the most surface level commentary ever 😂😂
Give a link or archive of the tweets. That sounds hilarious, and completely in character for nick
Morgan adding nothing but lies to the equation purely cause he didn't want her is crazy, it's giving psycho ex but without the ex part.
That’s what’s crazy to me, she was sexually assaulted by don but then destroys Matt and Ryan’s reputation and reveals they cheated on significant others. Like why?! Why are you going harder on Matt and Ryan and lying about how they treated you and ignoring don. Leading to Morgan coming out and confirming Matt cheated as if any of this should be our business or matter in context of sexual assault
Idk why she was so offended that Matt only wanted her for sex, YOU'RE A SEX WORKER FFS!
She can deepthroat like a champ though. I've seen it.
Joking aside, this whole situation reminded me of a ProJared quote; "Nobody likes cancelculture, untill they get the oppertunity to cancel somebody."
Particulary that latter part seems to apply to most of the people in this vid.
2 different people, she's talkin ab Morgan not lex. how tf 29 other people like this? ion get yawl. rly shows how many didnt watch the whole vid or jus didnt pay any attention LMAOOO@@BaronVonBielski
@@BaronVonBielskiits because she wasn’t sexually assaulted….. what happened to her isnt SA she just can’t communicate
It is beyond infuriating watching Nick muddying the waters for no good reason but personal bias. Not questioning a victim and simply accepting all that they say as fact is irresponsible and naive.
And she's not even a victim. She's lying about the SA.
I won't be surprised if Nick eat some lex cake 🎂
I sincerely hope they do take Leighton, Nick, and the crew to court for defamation and slander. There’s no way this could be resolved over posts.
Absolutely agree. Especially on Daniel’s behalf. Fucking disgusting
Leighton has already won, but his paranoia will eat him alive, waiting for his come upping.
@@informitas0117 Naw I'm pretty sure the narrative has changed and he's seen as a massive manipulative piece of shit now, why do you think even Lex has distanced herself from him? I haven't seen much of anybody defending him at this point.
Don should sue them all.
@notville_nick literally made a video calling them horrible people and defaming them off of baseless claims with the intent to ruin their public image. This is supported by his mockery of them, ad hominem ridden exposé, and the fact him and his associates were celebrating their channel losing subs. He’s not innocent either
The whole Daniel bit was scummy as fuck, imagine using someone who you never knew to try and prove your point. I feel incredibly bad for them, super mega should have never had to go through that as a weaponized conspiracy
to use someones SUICIDE. I don't mean this hyperbolically, to use someones best friends suicide, of which they found the body, as a gotcha thing in a youtube drama video shows you DO NOT CARE about suicide. No one who genuinely understands and is sensitive to the weight of perhaps the most tragic thing someone can do would ever even think to use it in such a flippant and frankly irresponsible and callous manner.
@@HarshanSandhu-c4rNot only that but made it about THEMSELVES is the craziest bit. Jesus this whole situation is a clusterfuck.
I've been in the same boat before sadly. This is the reason I despise people like this. My mom died when I was young. And my fiancee and our newborn daughter died when I was in highschool. Didn't know how to deal with it so I locked myself away from people for 4 years till I had the will to keep going.mydad got remarried at the time. And his wife. Would always use my mom. Or fiancee and child against me to win arguments. I had to learn to try to ignore it so she couldn't get to me. But always did regardless. Why do people have to go to such lows..
And Ryan was the one who found Daniel... to lie about all of this is horrible but that was the most disgusting part.
@@mxnlie luckily I moved out and got away. No matter if she tries to stay in my life cause my dad. I had no choice but to comply most of the time cause I was threatened with getting kicked out. Even had to stay out one day just cause I got mail
"he asked for details, which i thought was weird"
Yes, its weird for people to ask for details of a serious accusation that may or may not have happened.
An employer should always just believe the victim without asking questions. Like last week I had an arguement with a coworker about whether Star Wars was good or not and they upset me. I told my boss that they assaulted me and they immediately fired them without severance and put a black mark to their name for future employers. I was so glad because had they asked any questions they wouldn’t have done that. I think that’s exactly how a business should be run, the truth should only matter if it affects me.
She kept saying this because she wants people to just be on her side 100%. No questions asked. BUT you must remain impartial until all the facts are laid out. He's asking to understand why she's coming to him about it and then figure out how to handle it. It's childish to expect people to just *believe* you. When you're an adult it's less about the details and more about you showing that you're rationalizing it all in a mature way.
This is all just doing your due diligence. Be patient and understanding but don't blindly take people at their word. You want to figure out what HAPPENED not just say accept someone's story. He said the questioning was to understand the severity of the situation. She WANTS everyone to just feel bad for her but a good friend would help you only as much as you NEED because you're not going to learn how to get through things if you're babied.
@@bj11755???
@@bj11755 Which side of the Star Wars debate were you on?
@@and_the_first_last The real question lol
"I want to accuse someone of something, but I don't want it documented" ... having worked as a behavioural psychologist for nearly 30 years, predominantly with children, teens, and young adults, I tend to find that young people these days WANT everything documented, UNLESS there's some kind of deception involved. They only care if something is verbal only, if they want the option to deny having said it later.
Absolutely agree. ESPECIALLY when it comes to something SO serious as it is SA.
I was 4bus3d too and let me tell you, I was desperate trying to find ALL the evidence I could and keeping EVERYTHING documented ALWAYS.
You always need your receipts, unless you have something to hide.
@@username-re9yki mean ... makes sense
And now that i think about it i guess this explains a few troubles in my life
(By that i mean getting asked the same questions when ive already awnsered them
It isnt fun when family life is a bit all over the place)
These people are more angry at Supermega than the actual “assault” that is so crazy to me. They bring up matt and Ryan’s name way more than they did Don. The intention is obvious.
Unfortunately even then, Don's career is in shambles because of this too. He's left his Twitter and deleted his Newgrounds all. All because of baseless accusations that people chose to blindly believe and stick to without even letting Don try to clear his name.
There was no assault! She is lying her asss off!
@@WrongJoke06i mean didn’t don admit to it tho. i still think she’s a shit person and a liar, but he admitted to the assault.
@@karlyoung5089how do you know that? false accusations are incredibly rare
@@WrongJoke06that’s what he gets for assaulting someone. stop babying grown men..
this video is the perfect example of why i have trust issues. So many people pretending to be their friend and happily living rent free, but the second that gets taken away they lie, lie, lie. Ive never watched supermega but i hope they can come back from this even stronger, such a shame.
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Honestly, I feel like this is such an LA problem. Am I saying people like this only live in LA? No, they are everywhere. Am I saying LA draws them in like moths to a flame? Yes, very much yes.
The only way fix it is to flush it all away @@zama422
@@zama422 I'm from Ohio and lived in L.A. for a while. The people are just incredibly vapid. The ones who are reasonably well off have never experienced trauma and/or serious adversity and it breaks them. It's like they live in a dream world where they are unable to mature and basically are incapable of thinking about others. It's pretty crazy and this mostly applies to those who never had money issues growing up and the trauma that causes, but it's absolutely unlike anywhere else I've ever been.
I feel so bad for matt and ryan. Imagine building something so great and it getting demolished over adults who are trying to live like children.
Yup 👏🏼 And to weaponize your dead friend who I’m sure they feel closer to more than those entitled babies.
Fucking zoomers dude I'm telling you. They can't interpret human interaction because they live on tiktok
Really got to be careful who you let sleep at your office rent free
couldn’t have said it any better
his magnum opus :((
Lex and Leighton lose a lot of credibility when the messages between Matt show how they talk to him one way, but later completely flip the script and say the opposite. Many instances of "Hey are you okay with this?" being affirmed and even encouraged on Leighton's part and Matt always made a point to let them know they (Matt/Ryan) would support them. As I don't know these people personally I can't form an opinion on what Lex is claiming is SA, but the persistent and underhanded slander towards Matt and Ryan seems completely unwarranted.
Also, notice her tone. She starts the video trying to seem like a meek and wounded victim but by the end she's lashing out, rolling her eyes being sarcastic speaking with an attitude as she reveals just how entitled she felt to be living for free in their space. More than anything, in her video, she across as angry that she's not getting to stay without paying rent in LA anymore.
Lex framing the moving out situation as if they were "forced out" instead of "overstayed their welcome after months of not looking for another place to live" triggers the ever living fuck out of me
Idk if you watched all the way through but she even admits they never asked her to leave and they left on their own accord which is bannanas.
@nasaten i did, did you?
she blames them for not giving her a deadline when she's been living there rent free.
"If you were a better boss, you should have given us a deadline"
Like imagine being so fucking shameless that while you live in your employers office rent free you complain about the mess you attribute too and take road trips instead of saving up to move out. Like, did she think she would stay there rent free forever?
Has she no shame in taking advantage of someone going so above and beyond that they even offer to pay her rent for a new place? These people are leeches and once you get old enough you will encounter these types of people if you haven't already.
@@kingghidra1032 no need to get aggressive bud. I was simply pointing out this extra context in case you didn’t know. Plus I’m not reading allat bro if ur getting this worked up over it maybe you should go outside it’s not that deep.
@nasaten dude...I read like the first line and immediately assumed you were defending this behavior. My bad, I do get super triggered over degenerates like this.
Sorry for unnecessary douchery
@@kingghidra1032 yeah my bad for slapping back too hard and telling you to touch grass. Probably should’ve realised you thought I was defending her.
So... She was given a free place to stay while she looked for somewhere to live, then she was offered for someone to pay her rent for three months to move out, said no, went on a trip and bought a brand new jeep and took a several week scenic route while posting multiple selfies a day about how much fun she was having... For her mental health. Then when she finally comes back and is told she needs to give them a move out date, decides on her own not to do that and live in her jeep instead and now claims it's SuperMega's fault she was homeless?
And all that while having a backup house she can drive to at any time. Just narcissist things.
@@2old2steak I noticed no one is really talking about this but like, her onlyfans is really famous? Like she is most def making 3-4k at the very least from that. Hell, that is how i found her because she was in the 1% like 5 years ago. I cannot believe the thought that she did not have money to straight up buy a full house just from onlyfans. She doesn't do nudes anymore but she has to still be making bank from it.
@@2old2steakwoman momento
Dont forget accusing jim of assault while following him to a closet after the first kiss was already unwanted
No landlord in the world would be kind unless their your parents, even then that is a maybe.
"I dont want texts, I dont want receipts." Yeah, if you're in her shoes, you want ALL the proof possible to back up your allegations. That was so sus.
And then later she’s mad Matt and Ryan didn’t publicly denounce don when she herself said she wanted it quiet??? Like what! Then she says at some point Ryan mentioned don over text and how she was stoked to have proof but like you specifically said you DIDNT wanna do it over text and have proof wtf
I have two phones of receipts from an ex that wouldn't let go. Years worth with time stamps. I also called the sheriff, who said they are viable in court. Got a restraining order through the magistrate.
Stuff like this cannot be taken haphazardly. Safety and receipts is fundamental.
@@BaronVonBielski The scary part is how 2-faced they all are. They at first displayed how they're cool with something only to say they weren't several months later and use it as material to slander. They deserve to have their careers ruined so much more than Don did imo.
She just wants people to blindly believe. She also complained that Ryan "asked too many questions"
The "sex trafficking room" thing shows a level of political brain rot that makes me question much of what she says. The straight-up lies have the same effect, tbh. Imagine being homeless and fortunate enough to be in a hotel with a master bedroom and hot tub and complaining about it. I've been homeless, I was in my car and I was in a tent, I would have _killed_ for a room with a place to bathe and a bed to sleep in.
with no sex trafficking actually taking place, to even invoke the concept of sex trafficking in that story shows how hard she was trying to make it sound bad
It's not politically adjacent. Some people are just actually disconnected from reality. Even if you put up all the safety rails for them they'll always find a way to act like they're dying. Death and poverty is real and we're surrounded by it, masquerading as it is beyond reprehensible.
And imagine being a 2/10 and complaining
I don't wanna be selfish but as a now 21 year old who grew up in poverty. Seeing this entire video with Lex and all the rest just rambling about being homeless meanwhile Matt & Ryan are giving them money, hiring them and do everything in their power to support them. It makes me cringe that they would backstab the people that let them feed off their hands. Some people just don't deserve what they are given 😐
Right if someone let me live with them for free, I’m doing all the cleaning in return
I'll add on to your point, I went to rehabilitation after a super rough childhood, I've met there most of my current & best friends, the rehabilitation org. helps us with being taught how to live normal lives despite our traumas & disabilities, as tough as it may be.
Those people... are genuinely POS, seeing Nick talk down to Jim while Jim is confessing to being a Victim is inhumane. While I do sympathize with Leighton since I have Bipolar too (or at least his rationale/thought process), he damages the reputation of people who are also diagnosed with Bipolar who try to live normal lives, after all - who would want to get a person who can potentially ruin the company randomly, even if their leave felt mutual with no bad blood remaining.
AND Matt offered to pay the DP and months of rent on a place for Lex, equaling 10k, that SHE turned down; then has the audacity to blame him for her being homeless...After living rent free too...They clearly brought up them needing to move out several times, then offered to get her her OWN damn place, and she acts like this??? Ungrateful as all hell.
It is very gross and this doesn’t apply to lex at all, but you can still be homeless and have money. Being homeless, simply classifies as not having your own home. There are obviously very different levels of being unhomed and while the most commonly found unhomed person is the kind of person that you would see on the side of the road that is not the only classification. If you’re living on your friends couch, you’re homeless if you’re a child and you live with your grandparents instead of your mother in the school system, you were legally considered homeless, there are many different examples I could go on and on. So, while in this instance, it truly is entitled of lex to act the way she has,as someone who genuinely was homeless, let’s not accidentally put others down who are genuinely going through that struggle in the process.
@notville_ you can keep kidding urself
Nick is so pathetic. The fact his fans are trying to act like it’s no big deal is exactly why this story needs to blow up
I use to be subscribed to nick but unsub after his terrible 2nd video on supermega. I think a lot of his subreddit has also turned on him.
I agree. More people need to get in really big trouble and have more consequences for false life ruining allegations like this.
Legit unsubscribed after this ( his content was getting really crappy and bad after that anyway I'm talking recording in cars dying mics and other shit)
Nick is so stoned all the time now, his content is so hard to watch.
The only part about it that genuinely makes me upset at him, besides obviously potentially ruining Matt and Ryans livelihood/ magnum opus (i say this unironically because so many of their videos are SO creative and have so much work and passion put into them verus Nick being a drama youtuber mocking their content, it made me genuinely confused), is that he used Daniel's SUICIDE as a petty gotcha thing.
I mean, what a callous lack of respect for human life and perhaps the saddest, most tragic thing someone can do. For god sake, Ryan had to find his best friends dead body, and then see his memory be desecrated not only in comment sections of old videos he had with him (which he says he viewed as memorials of their friendship, which he now cannot even look at due to bs drama comments), but to be used to level a false character assassination on SuperMega by people who clearly do not care about suicide or Daniel, i mean TRULY care. Because no one who truly cares for perhaps the most sensitive topic there is could use it in such bad faith.
Leighton blaming his personality disorder and BP disorder for why he thinks people are out to get him and for why he has to drink in public is a telling sign of his credibility.
He put his personal problem of "having to drink" around others as something they did to him lol.
Guaranteed if they asked him to stay away while they drank, he'd be out here telling us how he was meant to be an outcast for his "addiction" 😂
Right? I hate to see that
As someone with BPD this blows my mind and tells me everything I need to know about him
This is behaviour I expect out of kids and teenagers. Weaponizing your mental disabilities to avoid any and all accountability for your actions is heinous. You're an adult. You should be treating that shit and finding ways to better channel your mood spikes and depression and getting help. NOT letting it get worse and acting petty towards others for not tending to your every whim. Leighton gets no sympathy from me. I know folks who get severely depressed and feel the need to apologize afterwards because of how far it gets. They don't get upset with people for not knowing how to properly approach it nor pin blame on anyone for their condition. It's called not being a sociopath.
This is the gay dude you know who wants to be friends and says “I just want to be treated the same as everybody else.” Then you treat him the same as everybody else and he gets pissed. Fuck that guy.
Chuck E. Cheese’s middle name starts with an E
Cecil McFly jumpscare
His god given name is Charles Edward Cheese.
@@Hcaz1113 Charles Entertainment Cheese*
Idk man. This Lex person, I apologize for being an old guy and not knowing who these people are, but as soon as she said that the hotel in Pasadena was “obviously used for sex trafficking” she lost me. I’m am very sorry about anything that happened to this young lady. There is just a lot of sensitivity and immaturity throughout this entire situation. False accusations are not anything to joke about. Some people are not good people and regardless of your situation you need to distance yourself from them. I hope all parties involved are doing well and have moved on to live happy and healthy life.
I'm an old fart as well and i don't mean to pass judgement on the whole SA part of her story, but...
This btch had the audicity to stay in someone's place for months for free only to use that as an argument why she was treated badly by them in some way. How?!
my man i had the same thoughts at the same time. she’ll say anything to anyone who will listen
Nothing happened to her. She rejected a sexual advance and the other party complied when they were made aware of the rejection. She blew everything out of proportion 110%.
im not, she let it happen, didnt say anything, then stayed hanging around the guy and his friends, shes either lying and/or liked it, or lying. if her story was true or she had a brain, shed tell them immediately let alone the police and stop hanging around them immediately but noooo she stuck around for more haha
Yeah that was so melodramatic. She’s implying to some regard that she’s being forced into sex trafficking, or at least around sex trafficking, because of SM. Like okay, you’re not being sex trafficked so let’s calm tf down. Not to mention they literally offered to PAY for a place for her to live. So how the heck did they force her into that situation?
This video is almost the same length as the original lexupdog video but I come away from it understanding way more about what happened. Seeing this girl fake cry and ramble about unrelated shit for 3 hours was actually so infuriating, I'm glad you came into this situation and made sense of it all.
no actually, she kept “wiping” tears but deadass at NOOOO point do i see any actual tears???? i thought that was so weird since the start 😭
@@appletreeariathen she incriminates herself with her own words. Not even realizing we can tell you're not homeless if you have tens of thousands of air BNBs and vacations across the country several times, just on a whim
@@adambonesaw3689 I remember there was this one part of her video where someones wife attempted suicide and she said that her sexual assault (that happened 6 months ago at this point) was the "over arcing situation". The fact that she saw something bad happening to her half a year ago, as more important than someone's wife attempting suicide THAT NIGHT was crazy. Girl is so self centered and baby like it's ridiculous.
Bruh....the whole thing with Morgan is really creepy if I'm being honest. Im sorry you caught feelings, we have all been there. But to try to ruin someone's life because of it? Scary.
you can see how excited and giddy she got when talking about the potential downfall, really psycho behavior
Yeah and also like she basically knowingly was with someone who had a significant other and is somehow the victim and calls him a cheater. He is and is a piece of shit for that but like the person who willingly slept with someone in a relationship is at fault too. Even if she thought they were on a break everyone knows that that is still fucked
morgpie said he didnt want anyone to know they did anything together but they literally went to creator clash together?? she seems.... very 21 years old.
a mentally ill sex worker? say it ain't so!
"oh my god if LEIGHTON comes out it's over!" - absolute schizo @@creamy9
“I didn’t wanna kiss him” then “I followed him into the closet” ???? Girl
"Do you like me or something?"
like what did you expect ??? 😭😭😭
I'm still shocked at those statements. The way she narrated that whole interaction genuinely makes me question if the alleged SA with Don actually even happened or if she just made it all up twisting the original situation
@@username-re9ykif you’re doubting someone’s sexual assault because they keep making naïve decisions based on the fact they view every single person as inherently good intentioned and kind, then you are genuinely not equipped to make decisions about what did and didnt happen to people
@@nug9gpeople are doubting a sexual assault because she’s given us no reason to believe her considering 85% of her accusations can either be proven as false or exaggerated and considering how she treated two people who did back her up by distancing and liking tweets that bashes them and also can we stop blaming naïveté for bad decisions? if you’re so gullible and so without boundaries that you’ll fall for anything it’s no one else’s fault you keep putting yourself in those situations it’s like giving a stranger your social security number and being surprised you got your identity stolen
As someone who is actually homeless (I lived on the street until I was finally able to buy a car, which I now live in), it sucks when people like her whine about their circumstances, when in reality they have plenty of options and a huge safety net.
EXACTLY!!!!! The amount of entitlement Lex is showing is absolutely mind blowing to me. The fucking privilege she has to be able to turn down $10k for an apartment but then turn around a buy a new jeep and yet still claim you're homeless??? Not to mention that she admits to having a home back in Tennessee???? it's so fucking disrespectful to people who are actually going thru it! I've been homeless several times and it truly sucks and is a HARD situation to pull yourself out of. My heart goes out to you and I hope your situation gets better soon. Stay strong❤
Whaaa I had to pay for a hotel room, woe is me!
I hope it keeps getting better for you
Matt and Ryan have had the worst luck getting dragged down by toxic losers they thought they could trust.
Ding Dong and Julian.
word.
@@theminiaturemenace genuine question- whats the controversy with them? I know about the dingdong and game grumps thing, is that it? Do people not believe it?
@@Anne-ot8gq Yeah that's what I was referring to. Centered around Matt and Ryan agreeing with DD and Julian about the game they were working on being shit but when DD and Julian went public about their opinions expecting to be backed up by Matt and Ryan (and others), they weren't and got effectively blacklisted for it.
Been there. LA, and the west coast especially as far as alt, internet nerds is the most toxic, naive, irresponsible, backstabbing, self righteous "community" ever. Live an hour north of Seattle and lived and traveled a lot up and down. They're just normal dudes from South Carolina from a small town like me and when people can't understand the way you walk, talk, laugh, or make people laugh etc. and don't like how you manage to go over boundaries comfortably, naturally, without fucking up and getting in trouble, they spotlight you and assume and look for anything to bring you down. "does not compute" ass woke nerds who make the left and progressives look bad by using political correctness for personal self interest and gain, instead of something bigger and better or representing a whole. It's an irresponsible abuse of what these ideals, and safeguards were made for, and is instead used in the logic of gossip and trendiness instead of justice and equity, or for the benefit of any actual victims, just virtue signaling and attempting to like bully people you think don't understand progressive ideals as much as you or something like its uncool, not because it's ethically wrong or something idk. Bunch of shy kids who internalize shit too much, can't communicate and are punishing others for their own insecurity.
She accepted his apology until he took away her rent free living arrangement. Then she decided it was all an unforgivable situation, conveniently
Yup. People are so entitled and disgusting
I think the catalyst was that Leighton dude getting fired. She seems to have moved away a while ago.
im honestly in shock about all of this. i cant believe how many lying manipulative people genuinely thought they could get away with all of this. being mentally ill is not an excuse. im disgusted at how sexual assault and Daniels suicide were both weaponized for personal vendetta's. shame on all of these horrible self centered people.
It's sad how easy it is to make false allegations about anyone and make it so believable people can get confused from it.
just recently a cosplayer in tiktok killed himself over false pdo allegations :/
Aww man@@olga1231
Is this a meta reference to the pyro video?
@@olga1231aw dude that's super sad
No, it's just true@@PrisPrivate
The thing that really bothers me about this whole ordeal is that even if Ryan made jokes about Daniel's death, who the hell are we, or anyone else for that matter, to judge him for it? People handle loss differently, which includes making jokes about it to make light of the situation. The fact that it was brought up at all to try and cancel Supermega is honestly disgusting. Let the man rest.
Idk super mega or anyone involved but I do feel for them grieving and when I die I want my friends to make jokes about, not laugh at me but with me like I was there yk
I mean it's tactless, but joking around is a coping mechanism. so it's very possible. The whole situation is FUUUUCKED
@@TheMrrccavanah fuck you for that.
I had a friend that hung himself in the basement of our shared house. I found him. I make jokes about the situation and other friends in our group do too. It's a way of trivializing what otherwise would be an extremely fucked event. Makes it easier to cope. You don't get to have an opinion on if it's "tactless" or not.
It’s a pretty typical coping mechanism. My family jokes about our deceased relatives and friends all the time. I got bit by a fire ant on my wedding day last week and my dad said “maybe my grandpa sent it to bite you”. I responded “he’d probably say it’s to toughen me up”. Or one time I saw a fake skeleton and said “Grandpa, is that you? No, its shoulders are too narrow.”
I make jokes about my dad who passed away when I was 14- definitely not constantly or with someone I am not familiar with/strangers but I do them every so often. For me and my little brother we definitely use it as a coping mechanism, something to brighten the mood while also acknowledging how messed up it all was.
Again those types of jokes aren’t for everyone but holy shit, crucifying someone for how they cope in a (mildly) healthy way is fucked up. And quite literally exploiting and profiting off of a suicide victim is truly beyond me. Nick is awful, Ethan is awful, and so is Leighton. They all are
I only make $4,000 in two months of employment and Leighton is bitching about $12,000 severance?! That is spoiled brat behavior.
Fr some of us would be ecstatic to have that kind of money. Like $12,000 still isn’t a great living in the US but I mean it’s more than I’m able to get. I got a disability and chronic migraines that often prevent me from even being able to go to work, as of late it’s been so bad I’ve only gotten like $22 dollars a week. $12,000 sounds great.
@@wispisang have you filed for disability yet? especially if it limits your ability to work, id look into it if you havent already
@@basedtortelliniprobably have
Yeah this guy was making $72,000/yr to be incompetent, got a massive severance package that he didn’t deserve, and still cried and complained about it online. Some people are just evil for no reason man
@@basedtortelliniI also get chronic migraines, is that something you can claim disability for? Is there any drawbacks to claiming disability, does it stop you from anything important in life?
Crying about 2 months severance is the most entitled thing ever. That’s so much more money than like any normal person gets when fired if anything at all
I've been fired before and I got nothing after working really fucking hard to hold up this company for 3 years. It was rough so hearing this makes my blood boil.
used to be an avid nickisnotgreen watcher until i realized all his content gives "im such a good person and if you disagree im going to come after you"
Nice guy energy
he is a fukkking 4@66ET straight up. dood makes more money than 99% of the American people but loves the disheveled intellectual trope.
i got that vibe from him immediately
He’s always kinda had a holier than thou douche vibe to him
He gives "I've never lived a real adult life and don't understand nuance, difficult situations, compromise, or empathy for imperfect people" energy.
I've never really followed SuperMega beyond their involvement in Game Grumps so the first part of this video had me thinking "damn this sounds pretty indefensible," but then the second part hit. Everything about Matt's response and the extensive evidence he showed makes me think he's a genuinely good dude and I feel bad that he got dogpiled like this. If anything, Matt and Ryan's response to this whole situation just makes me think they need to stop being so accommodating to people who are clearly unstable.
It's wild to me that Lex somehow managed to spin "they let us crash rent-free for months in an extremely high COL city and even offered to pay for us to live somewhere else" into "they made us homeless" and people just thought "yeah that checks out."
Matt and Ryan actually being punished for being nice. You hate to see it
Good intentions, sure, but after the veerryyy obvious fence-sitting attitude he'd shown to DingDong and Julian after previously backing them after they went public with their thoughts on Dream Daddy, nah. Scumbag move motivated solely by self preservation.
I remembered them back when they used to collab with markiplier
@@umairashraf5167 that's how I found out about them, it really sucks how unlucky they been with their employees. I hope they return.
I didn't know about any of this "drama" till watching this video, but I genuinely can't imagine The Grumps keeping them around as long as they did if Matt & Ryan were any where near as awful as these people claim.
Dubious from the start, and I'm glad to see the overwhelming evidence in their favor.
He offered her free housing to go away for FREE and she thought this was creepy and weird.
But she also somehow thought that throwing some of the garbage from the mountains of food everyone there constantly ordered from Grubhub/whatnot. Was totally worth a free room in LA forever apparently.
The fact she is blaming her own lack of communication on everyone else is insane plus her whole “homeless” shtick is just her showing how absolutely entitled and spoiled she is
Yeah ive been sa'd multiple times and it's legit frustrating when people try to act like the other person is supposed to know that x was too far and you went along because you were scared to say something.
That doesn't mean your feelings aren't valid, you can still be hurt by things you didn't actively fight against. It just means
1. It's not gonna win in court.
2. You need to work on that or it will happen again.
big facts!💯💯💯
@@dismurrart6648legit same situation, they make sa look so much less bad because the situations they call sa are just misunderstandings
@@dismurrart6648mfw someone asks to have sex with me, I say yes, and then we have sex 🤯
@@dismurrart6648 so people only commit sa because they “just didn’t know” that it was too far?
There are so many red flags in the accusations. One that really sticks out to me is Lex making a point multiple times about how she actively avoided talking about issues in ways that would leave receipts. She frames it as trying to avoid her story getting leaked or something? But it seems awfully convenient that doing so also makes it harder for Matt and Ryan to disprove any accusations about what they may or may not have said since it was all in calls or in person.
And in the same breath talks about how happy she was when they brought it up in text so that it could be verified and feel real to her
another one i picked up on was how lex kept harping on being “homeless and having nothing” even though she said “we knew they wanted us out so we got as much of our stuff as we could.” also her saying “we were living there rent free! we didn’t owe them anything!” is absolutely crazy to me. you live in someone’s space for FREE for MONTHS and don’t think you owe them decency at the very least? jesus christ have some gratitude
Ive seen girls like Lex too often. They are emotional wrecks and have terrible communication skills, entering casual situations irresponsibly and suddenly a guy is accused of SA when he thought she was totally into it because she didnt have the courage to speak what she wants.
She mentions multiple times situations where she clearly did not communicate what she wants and just 'went with it'
@@inframatic i don’t want to outright say she wasn’t assaulted, as accidental sexual assault can occur, and being a victim of that is very real and shouldn’t be overlooked. however, don should be given some grace, in the case that it is accidental assault. lex tried to simultaneously paint it as an accident and as an intended assault, and it obviously cannot be both. based off of what don said in his statement, it was absolutely an accident and he didn’t intend to hurt her. he very well may be traumatized from it as well, living with the guilt of unintentionally violating someone. situations like this are incredibly complicated, but i absolutely believe that she shouldn’t be treating the situation like he sought out the opportunity to assault her
@@lizroszel265 okay so, then it wasn't assault, due to the fact that if it was an accident, as you can't accidently assault someone, as Assault by Florida state law requires it to be intentional, which by Florida State Law it wouldn't even be make it to court, even more so since in this case, it was a consensual act, that due to her having a mouth ulcur and his... well thing rubbing against it due to him being used to have a bit of force, caused it to rub against her ulcer, thus under Florida state law, due to the fact there was prior consent, Don would not be prosecuted under the statute that covers sexual Battery, Florida Statute 794.011, if you want the full statute to look over.
other than that, Lex is a liar and Don has indeed been done dirty by her, as has Super Mega.
"Your comedy gaming youtube channel with 1,000,000 subscribers is nothing to be proud of because you use crude humour, unlike my band "Queef Jerky" which is definitely something I'm proud of" - nick
Lmfaooo that part fucking killed me. He really thought that was a slam dunk too
💀💀
You gotta admit though, "queef jerky" is a funny pun, not defending nick, I just like crude humor
@@BarbieDreamDungeon idk if that even meets the threshold for pun
@@pj2345-v4xit does lol
The Morgpie stream is by far the funniest of the call outs because the story essentially boils down to her and Matt hooking up (With both aware it would be a one time thing) and then Morgan fell in love with him and he ghosted her and that's literally the entire story
i can’t believe people didn’t bully her harder for that? like she exposed this man intimate details and accused of him cheating with no evidence cause she got curved. crazy man
It's a real woman moment
What I learned:
- Don't live in LA
- Never date a girl who looks like nickisnotgreen
Bro everything I hear about people who are in or end up in LA is just vapid nonsense filled with main character syndrome. Friendships go there to die.
I still think he’s guilty. These pervs have got to stop getting away with this, and Tom is just enabling predators. He should get demonetized in my book
@@TheBeigeRaider Great name lmao
@FreeHarveyWeinstein dam your totally not a troll never would guess that
@@TheBeigeRaiderIf you're gonna bait us like that change your username first 💀
this enrages me, the way she describes these situations you would think she is a three year old baby with late stage alzheimers, her constant confusion is legendary, her ability to perceive her surroundings and actions is missing entirely, from her description of these events i would have to assume that life for her is just a slideshow of the 5 minutes per day she has object permanence
She seems to muddy the waters as much as humanly possible so that when this comes back to bite her she can just walk back her statements and claim that she didn't make any declarative statements, as if she knew there was more to come and possible legal actions taken. If that wasn't the goal, it sure is convenient that she put things that way ahead of rest of the allegations that were raised.
When you’re dabbed out constantly (or edibles maybe) you basically become a three year old baby with Alzheimer’s. I know they don’t grow their own so its definitely roided out 502 grow shit.
@@retrohanska4441 its literally this. She's actually a machavelian master mind pretending to be clueless, innocent, and pathetic to garner sympathy, all while its true purpose is to mask everything behind a veil so that people have no choice but to go along with her narrative alone, without having any actual facts to back anything up.
Its also really hard to concretely defend oneself when there's no real physical evidence to refute. She purposely early on kept repeating "I didn't want my messages recorded, I didn't want chats for there to be screenshots" and she paints this as a 'privacy' thing. An 'anti-doxxing' thing. Her being nervous, and scared. But in fact its a ploy to make clearing the record as hard as possible, while being able to lie straight through her teeth better.
The less details you give while lying, the easier it is to pass the lie, as there is less to pick apart.
Yeah shawty goes “he just starts making out with me and I didn’t like it then disappears and tells me to come into the closet, and I dunno what he was doing so I went into the closet and he kissed me again” 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ there has to be no brain-activity going up there boys
@@ihateanimebutonlywhenitiso7227
Oof. We're approaching Chris Chan levels of inability to understand or make conscious rational decisions. Does she want to be treated like Chrus chan, because she certainly seems incapable of making any cognitive emotional legal mature adult decisions on her own.
I’m not a big fan of super mega but slander like this isn’t ok and I appreciate you telling viewers like me the whole truth.
*OH NO BRO*
can i ask why you dont like their content? just genuinely curious! personally im a megafan but i just want to hear your reasons why.
@@gappzapp1248MY MOM?
@@gappzapp1248 MY MOM *muscleman squealing* also based Orthodox Icon pfp bro
@@ReosirWasGone Mainly this is directed towards Matt but when Ding Dong was being slandered and bullied by Game Grumps over the whole Dream Daddy crap, Matt didn’t wanna associate with Ding Dong and Julian anymore because being friends with them could ruin his “Magnum Opus” which I find really scummy but that’s just my opinion. Also I never really liked watching their vids
Soooo she wants us to be mad that they guys let her stay in a place rent free and didn’t give her a deadline to move out? And then Matt had the audacity to offer getting her an apartment (cause she was messy af). The lies just didn’t even make sense! Why did anyone believe this crap? I feel so bad. Matt seems just so genuinely sad for these people who took advantage of his kindness.
Straight up, Lex came across as super entitled and self absorbed. Listen, SA is horrible and admittedly Matt should've handled it better (as he said in his own video), but he's not responsible for her housing, nor is he to blame for her being "homeless". She's an adult, she didn't pay rent, she wasn't "pressured or pushed" out of the office, she left of her own validity. Jesus.
He is not even in charge of being her judge at work. Without any proof, he hardly has any burden towards her as an employer.
they even said (rav and lex) that they've been viewing places but nothing struck their fancy. claiming to be forced to be homeless when you 100% can afford a home, you're just being picky because you want your dream place is kinda wild
It wasn't even SA though, Her entire argument was a lie from the get-go, Just to try and take down SuperMega, It's so disgusting... :l
@@Joshuamiller19570 Judging by this video alone, it certainly seems that way. However, there's no need to question whether it happened or not, even if it happened she's still a terrible person.
Ding Dong put it best when he said that the entertainment industry is just non stop ppl hurting one another to get on top. It’s no coincidence that Ethan and Nick dropped a new song and promoted it along this smear campaign.
If only all those kids who dream of being massive youtubers could know what a nightmare it can end up being.
Crabs in a bucket
my favorite part is when matt comes forward with screenshots, and suddenly they all feign ignorance and distance themselves from each other.
Yeah let’s go ask any random homeless person off the street if they could purchase a newer jeep and stay at a hotel for 2 weeks, while ordering food and buying things on Amazon. This generation is truly spoiled rotten, not being completely opulent is now considered homeless status to young people.
Not to mention that they were smoking weed all day, every single day. That is not cheap.
Oh, and she also could have went back to her parents home at any time but she just didn't want to do that. So yeah, she had never experienced homelessness in her life
Please don't have this impression of young people, many of us are struggling and could face homelessness at any time because of financial insecurity which these spoilt LA kids obviously don't understand. I live in a homeless shelter, I know many people who've been on the street and are even younger than me, please have faith in us. What you're seeing is just niche internet celebs who think they're hot shit and have a victim complex.
@critastic @@volkatthew I second this. these spoiled individuals on the face of the internet with thousands-to millions of views, absolutely do not represent the whole youth of our nation- or any nation at that. and it's sad that the rest of us will get thrown under the bus because of this. I'm trying so hard out here, and this girl is just....I can't even put it into words, it's infuriating. It's really demoralizing.
"they wouldn't ask so many questions if they'd believe me" is such a stupid and irrational take. No one should just believe someone based on nothing. If you want someone to believe you you should give them something they can believe in regardless if they are friends or not because it is just a logical thing to do.
Yea. With SA cases its important to get all the details instead of just blindly believing. Turns out this woman has SO much baggage
@@meyeneetuks4680 Eh, my only argument against this is, do you really need ALL the details for an SA case to be legitimate? Like, if you approach the accuser and either they fall apart and admit or something similar, you call it then and there. You only scrutinize for me if you absolutely have to.
I agree that Lex is in the wrong, but I feel like some commenters are going in the full opposite "No they should've asked as much as they possibly could in an SA case" when really they just needed to do even just a little more to be effective, which they agree with.
Sorry I know that's kinda tangential but I find that discussion a bit interesting to have too.
“What’s the source ?”
“Believe me bruh”
@@ShyRanger@ShyRanger Maybe not ALL the details but there is a realistic expectation that we ask questions. This stuff is extremely sensitive and can be very hard to prove.
There are also a lot of bad actors (as we know) who just say shit because they feel like it. I mean supermega even has a reddit page who just schemes their downfall like rats by manufacturing outrage.
We MUST ask questions so that people like supermega doesnt get all the flack but we also have to give the benefit of the doubt to the victims.
The internet likes to take things at face value regardless if it is bullshit or not. People still get scammed from logan pauk for example despite having many scams.
@@ShyRangerwell when Its in a case like this when its an SA that involves not only two friends but two employees having some detail is probably needed
she's literally a glorified groupie who takes financial advantage of the men in her life and when something bad happens to her she's dumbfounded that the men in her life protecting her like a little princess and fighting her battles for her. Those "content creators" used her as a weapon in order to spite super mega and she went along with it simply due to the fact that she has now found a different group of men to be their groupie and will do anything to get ahead in their circle. This kinda shit ain't new, but with the rise of social media, narratives can be spun in all different kinds of directions.
don't imagine this is a popular thing to say, but you are totally right
Special word for this,. Pretty Woman Syndrome.
I think Lex probbably has a more active role in things then people consider. Shes not a pawn she was the whole lynchpin of the operation. She had a very active role in the hitjob.
@@frohawkmaster Honestly, the fact that she didn't want her relationship with Don to be public and she cut him off on the podcast and only shared the "assault" with Ethan after he got word that they were dating in order to deny the validity of the relationship reeks of her trying to flirt/play girlfriend with multiple guys and she's trying to cover her ass.
Edit: Ha! I posted this before getting to the part where she's polyamorous. Ofc she is.
I couldn’t of said this better myself.
I like how she complains about being homeless right after letting us know she was offered to live in LA for free basically
and bought an a jeep. How is it to be homeless in USA guys. How. I dont understand...
And then even admits to having to "go back home to Tennessee" UMM IF YOU HAVE A HOME IN TENNESSEE, YOU ARE NOT HOMELESS???? I really wish she would stop using the term "homeless" to describe her situation...
I'm a little late to this video. But speaking as someone who actually used to be homeless for a year and a half. I know exactly how it feels to not have a roof over your head, not having a safe place to go, sleep, eat, charge a phone, wash clothes, having to walk around aimlessly for 18 hours a day. The fact that they weaponized the idea of being homeless to create a narrative that people in SuperMega were deliberately putting this stress on them, when they had a home to go to, they had cars and an airbnb. Like that's just disgusting to me. It's just a pure example of privilege. Acting like they know how it feels to be unsafe and vulnerable everywhere you go. Unbelievable.
The lack of response from nick, ethan, and morgan is so disgusting. Every post on nicks instagram is flooded with comments asking when he's going to address any of the lies he spread and hes just ignoring them all. Saw him liking and replying to dozens of comments that are just generic dickriders but they are buried under like half a dozen people calling him out with 100s of likes.
Just finished the entire video and holy shit this was a hit piece from the start. I don't even know if I believe lex was ever even assaulted anymore.
I barely believe Lex was assaulted. Cause man SA is serious, and I don't wanna just not believe her....but she is such a liar that she probably made it all up.
These people attacked and lied because theyre cowards, sadly they’ll never admit they were wrong because they’re cowards
Lex was definitely assaulted. It’s just very clear they’re using their assault as a weapon to take down Matt and Ryan. Which is messed up but whatever
@@dog_1458I believe she was assaulted too. But she totally lied about everything else, including Jim. She even specifically says she never told him no, went along with everything, but her claims he assaulted her for kissing her WITH consent. Is it weird to kiss someone in that moment? Yeah kinda, but he claims he specifically said “can I kiss you” and she said yes. Genuinely insane behavior to turn around and call him a predator. Also to lie about her living situation and how Matt treated her. every text he sent her was extremely sweet, and caring.
Lex is not fit for adulthood, i swear. Self-sufficiency, boundaries, communication. These are foreign concepts to her it seems.
She takes no accountability either, it's frustrating and disgusting. From making her problems other peoples problems to straight up throwing irrelevant lies out from her BPD compulsive liar friend.
No one sought the law or professional help
Typical woman behavior
She got robbed twice and somehow lost her wallet as well, maybe she does have a broken brain. 😂
Modern woman
Lex claiming homelessness and being unable to afford to go home, but has the money to get Airbnb's, a car, go on vacations etc? She's just mad that shit isn't handed to her, EVEN WHEN IT IS!
I've been more functionally "homeless" while having an address (as I didn't have a bed and slept on the floor at one of my places because I couldn't afford even a mattress).
I've noticed this about a ton of youtubers. (ehm, oompaville. Sad situation, but bruh). They go through a minor period of time where they are between homes and they doubledown to say they're homeless for pity points. You have people you can stay with. You had prep time to make sure you didn't have to be in that situation. You have funds you could have better allocated to make sure you had a place.
I know they technically didn't have a home of their own at that point in time, but i feel like its a slap in the face of people struggling with homelessness to call such a temporary and cushy situation 'homelessness'.
@@kiraeckard7625 I don't think most TH-camrs who say that legitimately believe they are homeless or expect others to think they're on the street. Its just hyperbolic statements, it's ironic as hyperbolic statements usually start with "literally" now so it is confusing but it's pretty easy to pick up who wants pity and who doesn't, Oompaville is the only TH-camr you mentioned that I have watched, and for him I'm sure it wasn't pity points for "being homeless" he jokes around and pretty much always in character
@@_lil_lilthat's not being homeless, that's just not owning a bed lmao
@@kiraeckard7625Fr. I’ve been kicked out on the street without a moments notice and had no car and nowhere to go… that’s real homelessness
So the TLDR is:
1. Lex is an unreliable narrator
2. Leighton is an unreliable narrator
3. Nick is an unreliable narrator
4. Morgan is an unreliable narrator
I feel so bad for supermega. All they wanna do is be goofy and bring laughter to people online, and they keep getting the worst possible luck with the shittiest possible people.
Which should tell you, they're not mature enough to actually handle real life situations that require forethought and common sense and really shouldn't be doing content anymore.
@@larkan511 absurd takeaway from this situation which spiralled out of control through very little fault of theirs, but sure. Go off
@@larkan511 people do good things knowing they might suffer as a result not because they want a better future. But rather they want to create a better present/future for someone else. "no good deed goes unpunished" but if you're willing to risk suffering, you can change other's lives
@@larkan511Peabrain comment
@@larkan511 lol everyone goof around it part of having fun so been adult is been serious and boring lol great content they will have 🤦
It’s crazy how their biggest controversies are just “they could’ve done better with something that had nothing to do with them”
they seem to be magnets for the mentally ill. you hate to see it.
And also "they were selfish and uncooperative for letting me stay on their property INDEFINITELY for FREE"
“nothing to do with” is a bit of a stretch. Don was an employee of theirs, and Lex was their friend. Is it not SM’s place to make their friend feel safe?
@@docsamurai9199 the only thing I think you could be talking about is the situation in the office but that was an accident from Matt.
@docsamurai9199 still even legally, they couldn't do anything. Lex herself needed to reach out to authorities. They also wanted to get Don's side as he was also a friend
Imagine if you worked for a company and someone came to your boss, alleged SA and they didn’t do their due diligence to get all the details before taking action against you. That would be a lawsuit.
As an employer, they have a job to find out all the information before taking action. It sucks, yes, but they can’t just fire people Willy Nilly. There has to be documentation.
“Someone assaulted me”
“This is very serious. Please tell me what happened, so I can conduct a proper investigation.”
“Ewwwwwwww that’s so creepy! Why would you ask me personal questions????”
She thought that because they were friends, they wouldn't do due diligence. Which, as someone who is trying to start a company and bring on some of my friends to help out, is something we can't do professionally. That's just bad ethics
@stellarstar6553i agree that it’s really hypocritical to call him a “weenie” for not making a move, but i do want to say that the rest of your comment is really not it and super victim blamey. not every person facing abuse will react the same way, some people would easily get out asap while others will stay to try to make it better or even stay because they’re convinced it’s not actually abuse even if it is
@stellarstar6553 not saying no to a superior coming onto you is NOT consent. Freezing or fawning is not consent.
@@jadeelissIt’s not “victim blamey” (first off, talk like an adult, unless you’re a kid, which come to think of it you probably are). It’s factual. She’s a grown ass woman with a mouth, she can communicate and say no. You’re just splitting hairs.
My mum lost her best friend to suicide a couple years ago. Shes always makes fun of it that’s how she copes. She always implied if she didn’t she’d probably end up joining her. It always annoys me when people judge people for coping like that because it’s a very real coping mechanism.
Every time I hear the part about her complaining that Ryan was going to pay for her to get an apartment for several months it leaves me mindblown every time. Imagine you're crashing at someones place, they think you should go. you have no right to be there and yet they still offer to give you money for a place and then act like its a shitty thing to do? Like wtf with those mental gymnastics? So infuriating.
Women ☕️
@@rusteddenial453no asshole
That was Matt, not Ryan.
It's textbook psycho/sociopath shit dude. Woman's a predator. She doesn't want to have to do any work. She weaponized a SA against people who were done giving her handouts.
@@L33PL4Ypoint still stands lol
Leighton cried on stream and made a huge deal over Ryan misgendering his ex.
Then, not only he discovers Ryan's ex was gender fluid, but he also misgendered them while also calling Ryan a monster for "supposedly" doing the exact same thing lmfao.
I honestly don't give these things much importance, but this gets me thinking, if Leighton was able to cry and be visibly distraught over retelling his view of Ryan misgendering someone, you don't get to do the same without knowing, then find out you messed up in the exact same way, and then be like "Yeah, let's brush it off, alright?" lmfao, this really gives you an idea of how much these things actually matter to Leighton, or rather "how little" these things truly matter to him.
Leighton is the epitome of “I’ve grown from edgy content”. They joke police everybody, cry about how this person was x-y-z to them, yet still do the same behavior behind close doors. It was never about ethics, just clout.
@@paperbag4477 Dude, i've seen it a bunch of times now lmfao
"Heh! You still watch edgy content? Don't you know that's problematic and childish? I have grown out of it for a long while, maybe you should try being mature and more adult like me instead of acting like a teenager, those things were NEVER funny to begin with dude, you should try doing stuff that actually matters and be an actual adult, like me ;) "
-Proceeds to be the most toxic and scummy human being in real life.
@@hermeschase4113literally saw a guy in another video commenting that everyone interested in this drama are too “chronically online” then they brag about watching every video Nickisnotgreen has put out and will continue to do so
Quite frankly, he should have left when he realized they didn't share the same sense of humor
Leighton is a clear manipulator and sociopath. He just wanted to ruin SM and is smiling the whole way. SM made some mistakes, but human ones. Leighton has been trying to capitalize on anything possible. It honestly has nothing to do with ideology and all to do with what you can abuse to get what you want
Bro why is no one talking about the part where Leighton described the "trauma" of seeing Matt and Ryan compare assholes? That shit was so funny. Ah yes 2 consenting adults exposed themselves in the comfort of their own building to compare one another's buttholes. Really terrible crimes, too bad Leighton couldn't have just closed his eyes. He was subjected to saw level TORTURE.
*Leighton walks into room with balls out*
Im waiting for them to upload those videos on the channel it would be legandary 😂
best comment on this video lmfaooo
Whahahah
He was upset they weren’t comparing his asshole with their dicks.
The entire “homeless” dialogue is really frustrating.. They have a free place to live for months, they are offered thousands of dollars for housing… that’s the opposite of homeless.. and then she has the audacity to complain about the massive hotel room with a hot tub that felt “trafficy”.. reality check most of us don’t stay in massive hotel rooms with hot tubs or sporadically buy brand new Jeeps…
Hopefully the irony of character assassinating the group via a reddit post and then calling out critics as 'reddit dorks' isnt lost on ppl
Holy shit. Just realized this. Hahaha
Leighton is quite the evil "genius" isn't he? Dude made sure to include the LGBT, his mental illness, and a guy's (whom he never met) suicide in his expose video to make sure nobody would dare call him out on his bullshit. Even added tears for bonus points.
It pays to portray yourself as a victim. It keeps people from holding you accountable when you speak lies since you can dismiss them as being homophobic or whatever
On top of him weaponizing Daniel's suicide (which I don't even have to explain why that's horrible), him outing Ryan's partner as non cisgender when that person wasn't out publicly is vile, and as a gay man himself, you'd think that would have crossed his mind (not to mention that that person actually does go by he/him pronouns as they're nonbinary, so Ryan didn't actually misgender them in the first place).
cause it unfornatly works take the youtube hyojin for example one of the key false accusers agasint slato while everyone else was getting cancled she pulled the "waaaa you making depressed by calling you bullshitte im gonna blam myself" and everyone stopped critizing her and she went on to false accuwser more people shamelessly.
peak manipulation
@@housewilma4904 And all it took to get Squizzy off the internet was her stabbing her own BF
Thank you for covering this. I was sick to my stomach seeing how their audience turned on them on a dime. I was an OG Grumps fan, and always loved Matt and Ryan's humor. I can't believe a huge portion of their fanbase bought into this as a valid reason to drive them into giving up on the channel.
Yeah I felt like I couldn't find anyone who stayed a fan. It really wasn't hard to look at the info and realize it was a smear campaign, considering all the times the stories changed on the accusers end. And then factor in all the irrelevant things they brought up just to elicit negative emotions towards the boys 🙄
She dated this guy, didn’t want anyone to know she was Fing him. Then she cried rape after the relationship crashes.
@@6millioncats I stuck around and even tried to defend against all the attacking on Twitter with solid evidence as shown, people will set pure evidence aside to get whatever they want it’s insane
I legit believe a majority of the people blasting them on Twitter were not their fans. I was a patreon patron and it was just hundreds of support comments.
They legit got brigaded from band wagon idiots looking to be offended.
It's not their audience in fact I'm a super mega butthead and those were randoms from other places. SM had above 1mil and they are now 952k the patreon is still open and meg heads like myself check in once in awhile for updates. People can follow a creator and not be apart of their active audience or even like them. True super mega fans were being talked over ignored or written off by the loud influx of shitty people, people who just didn't care to get real facts yet, and SUPER MEGA HAS A HATE GROUP! Yes! There's a legit super mega hate group spanning way before this. So imo the fans never turned against them WE waited WE know the personality of these boys and how they approach personal important subjects as shown before.
I'm a woman and I have to admit when it comes to female creators especially ones with egirl aesthetics and sexual shit on their platform their fans are zombies ready to attack for their princess even if she's the problem! Super mega had 2 or 3 fanbases attacking them NickIsUglyBabyBarfGreen, that ugly bowl haircut girl with bad eyeliner, and that one white dude no one remembers. That's 3 fanbases talking over megheads and attacking us too. People in the reddit tried insanely hard to speak up but the down votes were insane. It was too much for a rather dorky introverted fanbase. I was not about to get threatened by egirl crazed lunatics I trust my boys.
Matt and Ryan have every right to step away they were attacking a man who committed suicide a sadistic predatory thing to bring up- no doubt money is tight as hell from the allegations because we know how media works- and maybe legal shit is going down. They aren't outspoken until it gets leaked about legal issues!
34:05 - 34:15 i'm sorry but this is so childish. so juvenile. is being taken off close friends in ig truly worth cancelling someone? the reason she's homeless is not because of these two people. she's homeless because of this level of pettiness and a mind-numbing lack of responsibility.
Holy sh*t all these creators in LA who are “broke” and claiming “homelessness” need to get over themselves and move somewhere cheaper & try to do something else with their lives.
they literally have houses just not in state they're basically on an extended staycation AKA... MOOCHERS
@@ihateanimebutonlywhenitiso7227 yeah but she didn't have her home with her, therefore, she was technically homeless at the time 😂. I'm joking btw
@@sparkyspinz9897She forgot to pack her home in her suitcase 💀.
“I LEFT HOME AT HOME😮”
I was thinking the exact same thing just fucking move somewhere else and work at Walmart
I love how asking questions makes you a doubter
The only victim who would be upset by any follow up questions are liars who are afraid of being exposed.
It's hard to keep all the lies straight. People who are telling the truth don't need a good memory.
right? i think it's wild to think that large company owners wanting details and asking questions about a situation involving their STAFF is wrong. what kind of logic..
because cant have the narrative crumble like a card house the moment somebody starts probing! So discrediting you asap it is
I SAID IT HAPPENED. THAT'S ALL THE EVIDENCE I NEED!
BeLIvE SOrVIvERz!11!
Which once again makes me believe the whole SA situation in the first place was mostly fabricated imo. I'm sure something uncomfortable happened but not to such levels that Lex makes it out to be. If it was legit, she'd have no issues with questions being asked.
nick: “this isn’t a situation where i look at all the facts and all that stuff, i’m gonna believe my friend when she comes out with this story because she’s my friend and of course i’m going to take her at her word no matter what”
also nick: “i don’t make videos for personal vendettas, i don’t see how i am possibly capitalizing off of a victims story” 💀💀💀
Also Nick: literally says that super mega should’ve talked about Don even tho it was againsts lex’s wishes. Like bro are u defending ur friend or not-
I used to watch NickIsNotGreen semi-frequently.
I am probably fairly far from the subgroup or demographic of people he refers to as “redditors/debate bros”, as I don’t necessarily always agree with some nuances that maybe Tom or etc express
BUT Nick has become incredibly insufferable to listen to, even when he’s in the right.
The way he frames his arguments (not necessarily saying this about things pertaining to this topic) is far from sufficient and he does 0 justice for the people like me he claims to support or align with.
Same with Ethan Is Online too frankly. His commentary videos in general are rife* with formal or informal fallacies, and it is exhausting.
I know this rant is probably pointless but this feeling has been sitting with me for months now, (before the Super Mega stuff) and I had to word vomit.
Yeah! and dev lemons too, i subscribed to their old videos then i saw the new ones and i hate how condescending they all sound and how obvious the lack of research of the topic went into their videos.
@@Mikoeditsfr I love Dev, but exactly.
No one is perfect and Im sure Ive acted similarly (maybe condescending or ignorant on a topic) in private/around friends but I would try to filter myself more if in a published video.
I know it’s easy to criticize from the outside looking in sometimes, so I don’t want to be “that asshole”. However, for example, Dev did not do the 5-10mins of research it would take to understand the burning man situation when she made a video about it/the events that occured. I can’t say it’s inherently indicative of anything persay, but there is a pattern Ive noticed and it is kind of disappointing.
Her videos with Nick can come off as goofy, and sometimes they’re fun! But then there’s some videos that absolutely are just hot air.
Im sure IF Nick sees this comment (not likely), I hope he’ll have the decency to take this criticism for what it is, and not project his own beliefs about who or what I possibly “subscribe” to as a person. But then again, Im a faceless nobody. It’s easy to disassociate from that and dismiss it as simply x y or z.
@@Tayl0r_ word, like they get more and more views and subscribers now especially after pinapple upside-down went viral so it feels like, very misinforming
i totally agree, i feel like lately him and ethan have been basing their content around personal attacks on people instead of actually caring about what they did wrong, it feels immature if u understand what i mean its like theyre excited to just dogpile on someone instead of having actual discussion
I agree about Nick, I started watching him bc of his interview on the Sad Boys Podcast but it’s becoming increasingly hard to watch his videos on any topic that isn’t clear cut black and white like the Colleen Ballinger. The way he talks about all levels of “conflict” like it’s got the same weight and importance def rubs me the wrong way. Like when he called Ashley’s husband cheating on her “drama” (Titktok Gel Lady involved in crazy drama)
I understand that he’s doing this new online drama format to subsidize his real passion music, but since he doesn’t put any research into his videos it would def be better for him to stick to low stakes tiktok drama like the venmo girl or Redit AITA stories
And THIS is why managers should have boundaries between their employees and their friends.
This is why you should never hire mentally ill people. The moment Leighton says he has BPD is the moment he should have been fired with no severance
@@amazin7006yikes
sadly that’s what happens when u try to work w friends, give them jobs, etc. instead of going out n looking for actual employees