RAF and Nato allies play out an Article 5 scenario on major exercise
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 มิ.ย. 2023
- Never before have so many countries' planes left home bases for one Nato exercise, one of the biggest for decades.
As fighting continues in Ukraine, the German-led multinational air exercise, Air Defender 23 - which features four RAF Typhoons - has been playing out a Nato Article 5 scenario.
Under Article 5 "the parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all".
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"The German airspace is a little bit smaller and a little bit more congested" is the most diplomatic understatement I've heard in such contexts, ever. Germany is half the size of Texas with a population of about 82 mio folks, decentralized as hell and though we were used to this in up to the end of the Warsaw Pact, deconfliction would be a nightmare if not for the professionalism of military crews.
i think she meant the airspace the military is allowed to use, wich is rather smaller and definetily congested.
@@sqnder5565 Both are, usually, but the scope of this one does block three zones which are very adequate for such an exercise. Well, it's not Alaska, but the deployment to Germany per se is already part of the challenge.
only 4 of our fighters joined? that's very disappointing
The West’s equipment is the best in the world. They need a lot of servicing. In a shooting war that is a huge issue
Aren’t we covering the Baltics as well as our own airspace atm meaning committing more Typhoons would weaken our own air defence.
If I'm not mistaken, the RAF is also participating in the Arctic Challenge 23 exercise in a leading role which would explain why only four Typhoons are seconded to Air Defender 23. And don't forget the ongoing Air Policing Mission in the Baltics where the RAF is a major contributor alongside the German Luftwaffe.
well the Americans only sent reserves, so at least we didn't fob everyone off by sending part timers
@@Rednukegamingyou clearly have no idea who or what the ANG is do you?
Thanks, Putin, for helping to get NATO up and running as it should be!
The extra members are great too!
nato getting destroyed in ukraine
Stop fooling mate
@Frank Renda comrade from Glavset you've truly earned the 2 rubbles🪨🪨 for that comment
Putin looks not worrisome at all! Should save the money and time!! Nobody survives ww3
@@Mwwwwwwwwe so did your mother last night.
Love the sound of the A10 flying low!
Way ta go guys !!!
Super 🙂🙂🙂🙂
Pip Pip! God bless guys n gals!! All the best!
Great job we have to be ready . Make sure a proper defence and attack plan is in place. And all because of the Russian aggression ❤ stay allert and save.
There will never be a scenario where Russia marches into a nato country so this is pointless
Who is the biggest aggressor in the world....... The usa and it's friends have been at war for the last 20 years for what? Russia has been at this one for 8 plus years. The west is the biggest aggressor not a country which has been within it's borders since the 80's, except for the last 8. Unlike the west.
Russia isn't a threat anymore- its the CCP we gotta defend against now!
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"Does anybody fancy going to Europe for the summer ??" asks the Colonel
Practice all you need
Team NATO.
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How about playing out Article 1 ???
This is the Eurofighter. It fights Euros.
What is the difference between a deployment exercise and a regular exercise?
for a deployment exercise the main character is already in the name. you train to get from point a to point b as fast as possible to fight alongside your allies in an article 5 scenario. a regular exercise is all about combat training and no one cares how everyone got there.
What if anything did Canada manage to send ?
Nothing, 😥
We have sent 4 Typhoons, oh wow (sarcasm). When I served in the 1980's we had squadrons of Harriers, Jaguars, etc based at Bruggen, Laarbruch, Gutersloh. Now we send just 4 aircraft, we have become a mere shadow of what we once were. It is 1938 all over again. Years of cuts and then cuts on the cuts, until we are down to bare bones.
We need to re-arm asap.
Don’t forget 19 and 92 Squadrons based at RAF Wildenrath . As the fighter we had a permanent Q force of loaded live weapon aircraft. We were scrambled on numerous occasions to turn back idiot light aircraft straying into the buffer zone.
Completely agree. Every political party in the UK is interested in only one thing. How much money they can pocket for themselves. I mean, having a multi millionaire as PM is going to help who exactly when they are living in poverty? Corrupt AF.
Don’t vote the BUDGET Tories then because they are the ones who have made all the cuts including selling off the jet powered VTOL technology plus making our two new carriers STOVL that were ordered as Catobar
Were undertaking 4 different opperations at the same time if you have forgotten, cut em a bit of slack haha
Saw the us doomsday plane leaving German airspace
I'm sure you know you're right from left.
This is just a little dress rehearsal, for the day when the ruschist criminal state is eliminated forever. The sooner the better
Keyboard warriors seem to be out in force today. Shame, as there are thousands of dedicated people here, away from their homes and families, all honing their skills and risking their own lives (this training has its own risks) so that if the worst should come to pass. they can more effectively protect us all. Something to think about when you're at home playing with your phone.
Says you typing garbage.
So why are you on here?
@@eligebrown8998Because I'm interested in the work our armed forces and allies do to protect us all, and I was hopeful I'd get others to think about that instead of being insulting. What about you? Why are you here?
@@luciussander8217its like your garbage comment is any better
Time to step in Ukraine. After 9 years 🇺🇦🇪🇺
Also signal to China to not invade the democratic country of Taiwan. 🇹🇼
China? I think you mean West Taiwan
While the UK plays games, it serving members are leaving in vast numbers...... If you saw the numbers today compared to 20/30 years ago you'd be shocked.
100%. The government has stripped everything out of it's armed forces. Disgraceful.
They were weened down and now are being ramped up again. That happens
China ,India will soon join usa Ireland is smaller then india
NATO air forces needs an additional fleet of no less than 100 brand new Eurofighter Typhoon GR3 (Tranche 8) multi role all weather fighter . . . or alternatively 100 brand new F-15EX Strike Eagle II multi role interdictor strike fighter . . . aging fleet of F-16B Fighting Falcon (Block 30) multi role air dominance fighter operated by some NATO air forces, needs to be upgraded or replaced with brand new F-16V Fighting Falcon (Block 70+ Advanced) multi role interdictor strike fighter airframes . . .
Not really disgreeing, but a couple of thousands Meteor, PrSM, Taurus and SS/ Apache each would be much faster, cheaper and just as useful for complete conventional deterrence on our eastern flank.
It could be worse...if nato only had soviet migs and faulty prototypes (the 'checkmate') like russia 😂😂😂😂
Nope were working on something much more special :)
@@Mwwwwwwwwei Is that why Russia currently has air superiority over most of the Ukraine? Because they’re equipment is so bad?
@Emsb6969 define 'most ' comrade ? russia does definitely have air superiority over the occupied regions and a lot of the frontlines but nowhere else...but yes good idea keep pushing that narrative and citizens will put pressure on their governments to send more AA/ F16s to ukraine
ı didnt know japan is part of nato?
I hope germans were good hosts
Oooo we sent 4 Typhoons, what an embarrassment. Talk about a token gesture, we might as well not have bothered.
Clueless.
If I'm not mistaken, the RAF was (is ?) participating in the Arctic Challenge 23 exercise in a leading role at the same time which would explain why only four Typhoons were seconded to Air Defender 23. And don't forget the ongoing Air Policing Mission in the Baltics where the RAF is a major contributor alongside the German Luftwaffe.
No WW3 thank you.
The German's still have Tornado, Italy and the Saudi's still do yet the UK retired their remaining ones in 2019. Imagine if they still operated them alongside the newer aircraft. The RAF would be sizeable.
Size isn’t everything…
The Tornado was a great aircraft.
That choice must have been tough. I would suggest to offload last gen aircraft earlier with a useful lifespan of 10 - 15 years to poorer NATO allies. They have lower personnel costs, but interoperatbility remains high, the punch is real, but if you consider Romania and Croatia phasing out their MiG-21s now (!), Poland still operating 12 SU-22, well at least they still slowly all got rid of their Su-25 and MiG-29 recently. Too late, but anyway.
Just my 2 cents.
@@SpecJack15 Even the worst Tornado is better than any Ruskie rubbish.
The Tornados still in use in Germany are all equipped for special tasks, otherwise they would have been retired long ago. I'm also a bit nostalgic that you won't see anything from them in a year or two. They were great planes.
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Russias stubborn and dangerous moves have been a catalyst for many of us...the practical applications due to Russian aggressive behavior. Better to be safe than sorry...
Brainwashed 😒
The two words 'British Intelligence'.
Must never be used in the same sentence!!
Clueless
Only four RAF typhoons? Wow! That's all we could spare?
Just because you only seen 4. That's because that's all they filmed. It doesn't mean UK or NATO is weak.
That’s about all you have left, as it seems nowadays.
God, I hope your country gives more support and significantly increases your great military!
@@markcummings6856nfortunately the government has been bleeding the military budget dry. However even with smaller numbers, the UK military is a formidable fighting force with some of the most advanced military tech, albeit in small numbers.
Most of the British public support a huge increase in defence spending, but the government just won't do it.
@@KissMyFatAxe Why do you peddle this lie? the military budget has been increased year on year for decades. The most recent settlements have been the largest ever. Just look at all the new ships, aircraft and Army kit being delivered.....
But well done for pointing we are still a major fighting force.
As for support for more defence spending well not when that means less benefits, less NHS budget and all the other sacred cows we have to fund.
@@markcummings6856 A perfect example of a Yank's arrogance exceeding his ignorance.
No Mark we have more than 4 Typhoons thank you. Germany not so much as they are still freeloading off the UK and USA for their defence.
4 RAF Typhoons 💪🏼 that’s the whole serviceable fleet 😂
Forgive me but I had to smile at an American saying they speak English....
English is a German language..
German, like your King.
I wonder how many minutes putin's air force would last against NATO?
I'd give it about 2 hours
China India is there not only to import oil
@@Waiting664India would most likely be neutral, and Chinese fighters are just copies of Russian and American ones anyways
We are in a similar situation to Britain in the 1930's. Facing an aggressive and expansionist enemy with forces that are far too small. We have been obsessed with wokery instead of security.
The thing about article 5,
We know that French won't stick to it. Nor would the Turks and the Germans.
All for them and them only for themselves.
Must be the reason why nato article 5ed Afghanistan and the mentioned countries send troops.
@@SierraKilo76 do you even know what article 5 is? Cause your comment is just dumb
Will the German public back this when their sons and daughters come home in body bags? Just wonderin!
Yes they would. All volunteer force, defending the alliance. Afghanistan was partially debated, but since we were not stupid enough to follow W into Iraq, most use of military force was stabilizing COIN-missions against fundamentalists. There's always a naive hug-it-all-out fraction, but that's negotiable. The left wing SPD members have some leverage nowadays, but even they conceded budget raises of noteworthy proportions.
Good to see that the Americans sent a shedload of amateurs to this so I'm sure they'll be jolly useful against squadrons of battle-hardened Russians.
Russian conscripts don't survive long enough to be battle hardened 😅
Those "amateurs" in the US ANG probably have more flying time than most of those "battle hardened " pilots.
Don’t be fooled of the US Air Guard as amateurs. Most pilots in the Air Guard are active guard reserves. They are in a reserve status but are actives and flies the most advanced fighters in the world like the 199th Fighter Squadron of the Hawaii Air National Guard and 149th Fighter Squadron of Virginia Air Guard both flies the F-22A, the 158th Fighter Wing of Vermont Air Guard and the 115th Fighter Wing of Wisconsin Air guard both flies the F-35.
America has a huge recreational flying scene, their hobbyists probably spend more time in the air than the Russian military. They are almost as enthusiastic about aircraft as they are about guns or cars.
Useful for russia to train against it 😂
They’re losing a war against NATO and NATO hasn’t even shown up yet.
Russian military is only good for one thing,. Target Practice
Play Stupid Games, You’ll Win Stupid Prizes..
you mean the game putin is playing
@@sp7873 No the western woke proxy game, that is failing miserably I might add..
At least, unlike Putin, we are only doing a defense exercise and not invading sovereign neighboring states with an exercise force.
more shade thrown Russia's way. Nato BESIDES PROVOKING the Ukraine conflagration to fight Russia by proxy, never carried its DEFENSIVE mission, rather pick on nations that posed 0 threat.
Yes, Russia attacked a nation that posed 0 threat.
Ah yes, the Russian trolls come out. We had to invade Ukraine and murder civillians because of NATO...
@@MrDontclickthislink Barack overthrew UKraine's 2014 gvt and if researching and continue to spout While House fluff, no hope your way.
@@MrDontclickthislinkafter a ten year civil war
Clueless or brainwashed? Either way, you need a check up from the neck up buddy.
What Air Force officers with obvious brain damage from lack of oxygen allowed this to happen while the world is on the brink of a nuclear war? Something wrong with their hearts too because they obviously don't love their kids also
Bye bye Washington and every Nato Capital City .
Why that then vlad
P.S your copium is weak!
Bye bye, Bot 🤖.
You want to say ruZZia will attack Washington and European cities, then it just confirms that ruZZki are terrorists, and you, too. You are not smart if you are exposing yourself, and ruZZia, on internet 🤮👎🏼
You realize NATO has nukes too? If we go down, you're sure as hell going with us! Bye bye Moscow and St. Petersburg.