"Luigi... is that you? I don't know how you made it here, but that's the same for me. I tripped, everything froze and then went black, and two seconds later I'm only a head attached to this chain of bricks... all there is to do in this place is eating to sustain yourself, but the bricks that are now my body increase as I feed. I'm struggling to accomodate this monstrous, growing body within the edges of this realm. I tried to stop moving, but this restless body refuses. As time pases, I feel I get closer to choke to death with my own flesh. Please Luigi, end this, save me or... just end it. And if you can't, run, run so you don't face the same fate."
So out of curiosity, is it programmed to simply softlock at that point, given it would need to add a block to the end of the tail, but cannot due to mario's head/the apple filling that space, or due to an apple having nowhere to spawn? Or is that simply the end state you programmed in, due to reaching a maximum number count.
Excellent question! This question is one of the reasons I made this video in the first place. I wondered the same thing. (You'd think I'd know what would happen, having programmed the game and all, but this was the last thing on my mind when I finished coding the game less than 24 hours before the presentation.) As it turns out, it softlocks in the subroutine to spawn the apple! I programmed it to take a random byte from the SMW RNG routine and apply the modulus operator with the number of free spaces (thus giving a roughly even distribution over all empty spots). Now, with no empty spots, it tries to calculate modulus 0, and this can be kind of undefined, just like division by 0. (Ever seen those "mechanical calculator divides by zero" videos with the machine getting into infinite loops? This is what happens here.)
May be the first time I've watched a snake full clear. I wonder if some of the spawns could have been manipulated to be closer, but as if anyone else knows anything about the spawning algorithm used
i'm sure if nothing else someone with a lot of free time could suss out more optimal paths. i hear the fruit spawning algorithm is just whatever the base RNG algorithm in SMW is so i'm sure it's highly documented, not that i personally know what it actually entails lol
@@poudink5791 it does use the already in place rng function but it uses save states to create the tas, hence, re-rolling rng values to get some kind of an optimal pattern
@@camwoodstock it shows 2 replies but only shows yours. I think something bad happened. Also, if anyone sees this, it'll probably say 3 replies but show only two
I think that was the ‘programming’, all the movement at the start. ACE can let you do some crazy things… And from memory snake is pretty simple to program.
People wanted to Kaizo so hard that they decided to reward you with another game if you did it perfectly. This is the next level of speedrunning I never knew I wanted to see before.
i wonder how it feels to hear the bonus music for around 5 minutes on end playing a game like snake and trying to fill the entire game with your snake tail
this video strikes so much anxiety in me, i kept getting so worried that the long little Mario snake was going to accidentally bite his tail with how close he was getting to himself near the end, and then he just... perpetually got himself forever stuck within his own one-block prison...
Extremely cool TAS!! Though I can't get it out of my head how horrifying a transformation this was when you turned Mario into a snake where he traps himself for eternity within his own coils. Cool!
Hey, what do you think you're doing?! It's not April yet! Also, hearing the switch palace jingle looped this many times made me realize the drums actually never change.
I forgot what happens but after a certain crash in mario world it is possible to write code via input but it needs 20 controllers for every byte This was shown off at a GDQ i think
I love how for a few frames before the menu showed it was just like: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
am I the only person that misread and thought that this was posted 12 years ago instead of 12 days? I only clocked that it was recent by the end, probably because it generally *feels* like an elderly youtube video that would randomly get recommended out of nowhere
I'm wondering... If you were to abuse randomness by rewinding, could you get an apple to spawn in front of you every time? If you could, it would probably take super long though...
@@bigboi0 it depends on what the game uses for RNG really (DS games like New Mario use internal clock) but I ain't no expert either. I hope someone who's into Mario World romhacks tells us a definite answer.
@@mohamedaminekhadhraoui6417 I don't do ROM hacks, but I do know how RNGs work with other games and systems. It's up to the game to produce random numbers and they either use one of three different methods of seeding or sometimes a combination: 1. The SNES doesn't have an internal timer per se. It keeps a count of the number of frames it has drawn or CPU cycles it has gone through since power on. Expert ROM hacks can potentially get/set a clock based on some emulator metadata (the ROM hack has to be written for a specific emulator). RNGs seeded with a time-based RNG will not be consistent during TAS playback (which in most cases just record controller interrupts based on input read cycles) and thus are not consistent with recorded input playback unless the playback file contains the initial metadata state. I think something like this happened for the SNES Star Wars games to have their playback be consistent. It's been years since this issue was fixed, but I remember them being inconsistent. 2. Games could have a RNG look-up table for a pseudo-RNG (or PRNG) that shuffles around during specific events so it feels random. FF7 does this (not SNES, but the concept is identical) 3. RNG can be seeded based on input combinations from the different controllers. Pressing left might produce a different random value than pushing right or holding L for 45 frames might produce a different result than holding L for 42 frames.
Manipulating RNG needs a way to call the RNG repeatedly. Since it's likely the only thing calling RNG is collecting the apple / spawning the next one probably not. Likely the only thing that can be manipulated is where the next apple spawns, rewinding and blocking that location off with your body. But that only goes so far before it wastes more time than just getting the next apple. The random weird turns in the later half of the video were probably this manipulation.
![[TAS] SMW "mobile version" in 06:57.74](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/jMgOU10I-DM/mqdefault.jpg)
![[TAS] SMW "mobile version" in 06:57.74](/img/tr.png)
this made me realize how weird the eating sound is in the game
ulp
ulp bmm
But the eating sound doesn’t play.
@@cringejuicedavidson8288 it literally plays every time mario gets the apple wym
Just made me realize that it's the yoshi sound effects but just pitched down and slowed down a little bit.
How tf did I just spend 4+ minutes of my life watching some dude play snake and still enjoyed it
Prolly the music
I ask myself the same thing
yea
It's 2-3 seconds below 5 minutes.
some dude?
There’s something oddly hilarious about people going from one game to another and instantly playing it without delay
"Luigi... is that you? I don't know how you made it here, but that's the same for me. I tripped, everything froze and then went black, and two seconds later I'm only a head attached to this chain of bricks... all there is to do in this place is eating to sustain yourself, but the bricks that are now my body increase as I feed. I'm struggling to accomodate this monstrous, growing body within the edges of this realm. I tried to stop moving, but this restless body refuses. As time pases, I feel I get closer to choke to death with my own flesh. Please Luigi, end this, save me or... just end it. And if you can't, run, run so you don't face the same fate."
kino
Yo new creepypasta
finally, this is what we've all been waiting for these past eight years
So out of curiosity, is it programmed to simply softlock at that point, given it would need to add a block to the end of the tail, but cannot due to mario's head/the apple filling that space, or due to an apple having nowhere to spawn? Or is that simply the end state you programmed in, due to reaching a maximum number count.
Excellent question! This question is one of the reasons I made this video in the first place. I wondered the same thing.
(You'd think I'd know what would happen, having programmed the game and all, but this was the last thing on my mind when I finished coding the game less than 24 hours before the presentation.)
As it turns out, it softlocks in the subroutine to spawn the apple! I programmed it to take a random byte from the SMW RNG routine and apply the modulus operator with the number of free spaces (thus giving a roughly even distribution over all empty spots). Now, with no empty spots, it tries to calculate modulus 0, and this can be kind of undefined, just like division by 0.
(Ever seen those "mechanical calculator divides by zero" videos with the machine getting into infinite loops? This is what happens here.)
Nice ratio
@@mrrfyW lmao
@@mrrfyW not anymore
@@Masterjun3 Instructions unclear, SNES turned into a graphing calculator.
May be the first time I've watched a snake full clear. I wonder if some of the spawns could have been manipulated to be closer, but as if anyone else knows anything about the spawning algorithm used
i'm sure if nothing else someone with a lot of free time could suss out more optimal paths. i hear the fruit spawning algorithm is just whatever the base RNG algorithm in SMW is so i'm sure it's highly documented, not that i personally know what it actually entails lol
Check out code bullet...
@@wesss9353 he didn't do RNG manip unlike what the comment said tho
@@NOT_A_ROBOT he is talking about the unoptimal paths
@@yt_is_a_pussy Optimal paths to manipulate RNG, read beyond the first line please bruh
I won't lie, this is definitely me when I'm AGDQ 2014.
...💀
Ok MrCheeze lol what a funny name
I too crash a game and become a snake block with Mario's head on it when i am AGDQ 2014.
bruh imagine literally programming rng into a game using only the game just to then manipulate that rng 💀
That is a certified bruh moment 💀
Is this not using the game's already existing RNG function?
@@poudink5791 it does use the already in place rng function but it uses save states to create the tas, hence, re-rolling rng values to get some kind of an optimal pattern
Mario Head on an Snake is one of the most bizzare things that I have ever saw in my entire life.
A TAS in a TAS? Now I've heard everything...
You think so? But this TAS... th-cam.com/video/Vjm8P8utT5g/w-d-xo.html
"1 reply"
(TH-cam refuses to show me it)
Either TH-cam's having a stroke or something terrible has happened
@@camwoodstock it shows 2 replies but only shows yours. I think something bad happened. Also, if anyone sees this, it'll probably say 3 replies but show only two
@@ashleycd6487 i am the one who reply`d (i said there is a TAS who are Multiple TASes in there)
It thinks they're 4-prob now 5-now.
Super Mario World briefly screams in agony while being transformed into snake
my mind went "mf corrupted the game so much it changed into whole another thing"
and then I read the decription
I think that was the ‘programming’, all the movement at the start.
ACE can let you do some crazy things… And from memory snake is pretty simple to program.
Apparently you can use extra controller inputs to program the entirety of snake while it’s in that frozen state.
@@JACKHARRINGTON WHAT XDD
Corruptions are more like romhacks than ACE, though they look similar visually during the programming for sure
...that is what happened though...
this is the true smw gameplay we have all wanted
This is something I would find on youtube in Japanese letters way back in 2012, it just gives me that vibe
My recommendations have blessed me with this masterpiece
Knowing you, I expected this to be some easter egg that was hidden for 8 years! :P
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the video ended at the perfect timing with the music? Simply glorious.
No, we can't.
Its not like the game ended a few seconds before that and he just deliberately let the music play to the end.
People wanted to Kaizo so hard that they decided to reward you with another game if you did it perfectly. This is the next level of speedrunning I never knew I wanted to see before.
Ah, I remember doing this back when the game released, such fun memories
i wonder how it feels to hear the bonus music for around 5 minutes on end playing a game like snake and trying to fill the entire game with your snake tail
when you want to TAS snake but can't find a program to do it:
this video strikes so much anxiety in me, i kept getting so worried that the long little Mario snake was going to accidentally bite his tail with how close he was getting to himself near the end, and then he just... perpetually got himself forever stuck within his own one-block prison...
mario’s head on a snake block gives me life
how were you alive
@@ahmetkeremsekizsu8 he was on life support up until this point
@@ahmetkeremsekizsu8 he was created on june 14th, 2022
apples cause mario to shit literal bricks
This is beautiful. I've looked at this for 5 hours now.
Extremely cool TAS!! Though I can't get it out of my head how horrifying a transformation this was when you turned Mario into a snake where he traps himself for eternity within his own coils.
Cool!
This is cute in a weird way
Hey, what do you think you're doing?! It's not April yet!
Also, hearing the switch palace jingle looped this many times made me realize the drums actually never change.
Finally some real, fun gameplay!
I love how the eating gets faster and faster towards the end, as the apples run out of place to spawn
I'm actually wondering how with such a precise setup like that, you could write Snake byte by byte in Super Mario World?
I forgot what happens but after a certain crash in mario world it is possible to write code via input but it needs 20 controllers for every byte
This was shown off at a GDQ i think
@@Nater_Marson no way I just found the real Nater Marson
@@Nater_Marson this is pretty dang interesting
@@Nater_Marson holy crap nate naterson
@@Nater_Marson so with 47800000 controllers you can theoretically run DooM in SMW?
My brain: why do I keep watching this ?
Me: yes
cant wait for the pong tas
Therapist:Snake Mario Isn't Real He Can't Hurt You
Snake Mario:
Watching the last 30 or so seconds amazed me.
I like how it plays the secret exit sound effect. Very fitting.
when the snake is so long that you don't even get the illusion of it moving anymore
I'm kinda disappointed a victory theme wasn't played at the end after getting the last apple
when i was younger I never realized how old this game was.....
Mario achieves his dream of becoming a wall
I love how for a few frames before the menu showed it was just like:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
いつ画面全部埋まるかドキドキしてたわ
am I the only person that misread and thought that this was posted 12 years ago instead of 12 days?
I only clocked that it was recent by the end, probably because it generally *feels* like an elderly youtube video that would randomly get recommended out of nowhere
In five years we will be able to emulate breath of the wild in super Mario world
or do a ps5 emulator on the game
@@Null42x86 yes but only with a snes sound card lol
I don't know the bytes it takes up, but I can tell you it would take over 956900 SNES controllers.
@@trollsansofficial haha
i love how it literally started off like a creepypasta thing then you just got mario snake
I gotta admit, I’m legitimately impressed.
Imagine living in a world in which the only thing that exists is yourself.
The music makes it so funny.
“I don’t have an old mobile phone with snake on it, but I do have a SNES and a very large brain”
This is absolute insanety and I love it!
From now,snake is not an endless game anymore
TAS
T=Tool
A=Asisted
S=SPEEDRUN!!1
Impressive apple sprite! It's not like there's already a fruit sprite in the game you could use...
This is memorizing
He did it. He won snake mario game
At 0:07, if you’re precise enough, you can see repeated AAAAs on the screen
I cant believe i watched every second of it
Imagine if this was the Easter egg nobody even found, and this guy found it
I completely forgot people can just make games like this so I was surprised
Look at-a me Luigi. I've become-a snake-a.
When you see the thumbnail and knows exactly what the video is about.
What have I been doing with my life?
I was surprised by the auto caption saying "bye" at the very end
legit should have been an official mini game, at least to eat 10 apples
I would like to see the original programmers of SMW reacting to this crazy stuff
ive been hacking for 2-3 years, and ive learned a lot in this time, but this still scares the everliving shit out of me
4:52 Congratulatuons you WON the snake game!!!
why did that feel like a 5 minute long fever dream?
Turn on captions and watch the very end.
We need Retro Game Mechanics Explained in here
I just now realized that the orchestral hit is from the Yamaha piano library
My man just completed snake
I can't even count, how many points have been scored by eating the apples in this Mario Snake game.
Mr programmer please don’t turn me into a snake oh mamma mia.
Using TAS is so cool
so apparently the game says everything it feels in 1 frame
I can't believe Miyamoto hid this in the game for this long
Mario: eat apples
Yoshi: **why do I have this live**
Perfect sync at the end
The music hits my g spot
YOU ARE SO GOOD AT SNAKE
The only snake game that u can actually win
I was today years old when I realized this was possible…
"Honestly, the thumbnail is way cursed then the content"
Validated
I'm wondering...
If you were to abuse randomness by rewinding, could you get an apple to spawn in front of you every time?
If you could, it would probably take super long though...
@@bigboi0I think it's not consistent. You can abuse randomness for that to happen I think (based on experience with rng on different games' TAs.
@@bigboi0 it depends on what the game uses for RNG really (DS games like New Mario use internal clock) but I ain't no expert either. I hope someone who's into Mario World romhacks tells us a definite answer.
@@mohamedaminekhadhraoui6417 I don't do ROM hacks, but I do know how RNGs work with other games and systems. It's up to the game to produce random numbers and they either use one of three different methods of seeding or sometimes a combination:
1. The SNES doesn't have an internal timer per se. It keeps a count of the number of frames it has drawn or CPU cycles it has gone through since power on. Expert ROM hacks can potentially get/set a clock based on some emulator metadata (the ROM hack has to be written for a specific emulator). RNGs seeded with a time-based RNG will not be consistent during TAS playback (which in most cases just record controller interrupts based on input read cycles) and thus are not consistent with recorded input playback unless the playback file contains the initial metadata state. I think something like this happened for the SNES Star Wars games to have their playback be consistent. It's been years since this issue was fixed, but I remember them being inconsistent.
2. Games could have a RNG look-up table for a pseudo-RNG (or PRNG) that shuffles around during specific events so it feels random. FF7 does this (not SNES, but the concept is identical)
3. RNG can be seeded based on input combinations from the different controllers. Pressing left might produce a different random value than pushing right or holding L for 45 frames might produce a different result than holding L for 42 frames.
@@NFITC1 very helpful but how is it in this specific case tho?
Manipulating RNG needs a way to call the RNG repeatedly. Since it's likely the only thing calling RNG is collecting the apple / spawning the next one probably not.
Likely the only thing that can be manipulated is where the next apple spawns, rewinding and blocking that location off with your body. But that only goes so far before it wastes more time than just getting the next apple.
The random weird turns in the later half of the video were probably this manipulation.
This is exactly how I envisioned my 2AM
I want snake on SNES.
Mom we have snake on SNES at home:
a snake game in a mario game, nice. it even has pong too
Now to wait here 7 years and knowing the funky algorithm this video will have at least 10 milion views (or idk im guessing based on my experience)
I live in the timeline where a Mario game (bug counted) is Turing-complete.
As a meme, sweaty speedrunner plays this 😎
Best snake version
the intro is too confusing for my brain to handle
i like how for like one frame it just said AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
This just mentally broke me...
You can't just *do* that!!!!
HOW DO YOU EVEN!?!!?!?
Mario after walking up:
Luigi, I had that dream again :'D
Marios head is literally shitting bricks
What a passionate man!!!🤯🤯🤯
Mario snake is fearless