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The Sad Story behind Moonlight Sonata
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What's so brutal about the story behind Moonlight is that it wasn't unrequited love, she loved him back. They could've had a happy life together but someone else swooped on and broke them apart. I can't imagine how terrible it must've felt to love someone who genuinely loves you back only to be ripped away.
reminds me of miraculous ladybug like how marinette loves adrien but i think adrien's father rips them away in season 5!...
@@franc3sca.08x oh wow yeah! They have the class difference too!
@@suckitmozart4623 yes!!
same thing happened to Chopin and Liszt.
The fact that they were in love with eachother doesn't necesssarily mean that they would have lived happily as a couple. So... who knows? Maybe it was a good thing they didn't end up married.
All in all, I'm so grateful that he was so good in turning his heartbreak into art.
Time to talk a little bit about all the dirty gossip in music history again ;P Who of you is playing this sonata right now? let me know in the comments!:)
The most early I been for your videos👏🏽
not moonlight sonata, but I am currently practising Fantaisie-Impromptu, which was heavily inspired by it!
@@cameronbegay9016 and remember -" playing without passion is inexcusable"
---- Ludwig van Beethoven
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That's why I love Beethoven. He could put all of his tragedies into formidable music. We don't need to be happy 24/7. There must be space for melancholy.
I really appreciated your exposition, Frau Annique. I would enjoy seeing you talking about Chopin's 2nd Sonata (Op. 35).
I'm glad you mentioned melancholy. That's the impression I get when I listen to this most beautiful sonata.
@@kade82, now that Frau Annique mentioned the story behind this piece, I really see this first movement as pure solitude. The melancholy of being alone.
Or course, artists have moments of isolation (mainly in times of increased creativity), but this is the certainty of not having anyone to share your life with you.
As a Historian, I can not criticise _Frau_ Guicciardi's father, as he was a man of his time. But I can and will criticise those awful times when some old grumpy man decided the marriage choices of his Daughter.
Now, Master Beethoven is getting worse each day from an illness and had denied the love of his life. He is immersed in the shadows of pure melancholy.
Perhaps the fast 2nd movement represents a fleeting glimpse of happiness and light, and then, the tempestuous enraged last movement comes.
I'm starting to learn the first movement of this Sonata. And now I know I can pour melancholy over it.
Same, I agree. Along with Beethoven though, I also like Schuberts music. Tragic backstory, and the feels his pieces gives area clear demonstration of that
Wow, my teacher gave me the piano sheet for this song, I started playing it and I really just wanted to finish the song asap bc I really didn’t find meaning to it, so when I finally learned it I just played it dry, with no feeling to it, now that you explained to me the story behind it, I play it with the bottom of my heart…
Thank you
Thank you Annique for this wonderful video. This work of Bethoven is one of many favorites by this excellent composer. Everytime I listen to it I can feel his heartache of not being able to share his life with the woman of his dreams.
Again, Thank you !!!
God bless you always ... 😇😇😇
One of my favourites, you can continually finding new ways of playing this, in part because it’s “quasi phantasia”. In his time, iirc, his critics weren’t very impressed by this sonata, though. Now it’s a standard :).
I really enjoyed this video and would like to hear more backstories of pieces in the future.
Thanks for the video! Bethoveen is my favourite composer. I read much about him and know that he wasn't an esy-going person but I totally understand it because of all his personal tragedies and how he dealt with them. It makes me admire him even more. To my mind, he's a genius. I'm happy to be able to play Moonlight Sonata as it has such a profound message and always resonates with my heart and soul.
The first movement of the sonata is somber and introspective. The second movement is a sprightly dance. And the third movement is running through the woods at night while being chased by wolves. Thank you for the interesting analysis. You are a very good storyteller
I started playing it like a year ago and it's the most dark and sad thing ever but i never get tired of it. It's delicate and strong, the masterpiece that was needed to start romanticism in music. The introduction sounds like something psychedelic to me but immediately the sadness begins. The atmosphere is 100% nocturnal, more nocturnal than Chopin's nocturnes. There is great heaviness, frustration and drama, but impotence wins. There are times when happiness is almost achieved but immediately falls to the deepest and darkest.
At the end the left hand suggests a funeral march, while the right hand makes the piano cry, ending with that cemetery C# minor chord. Very amazing move.
This is the best thing I've ever read. I agree with each and every word.
Totally changed my perception of this beautiful piece. Thank you for the video, Annique !
I actually returned to playing piano again after not touching the keys for over 25 years and recently just taught myself this piece! Every time I play it I think of the story behind this sonata and the unrequited love. It really gets you into the flow of playing this sonata.
I’m considering getting a tutor mainly because I’m having a hard time finding a new piece to learn that is in my skill set!
Same story for me. I recently started to learn the little preluce in C minor from Bach BWV999 and even if it is really hard it slowly starts to come together. My advice would be to just listen to a lot of music and try to find something not too rapid on the left hand that sticks in your head.
I love these type of videos so much, please do more music history! It's unbelievably eye opening
First time I hear the story of this piece, it's amazing! I never thought of it that way!
thanks so much for the videos. makes me so happy and inspires me to keep practicing!
you can finish the whole sonata and upload to this channel or your other channel...
you're the pianist whose interpretation I like the most!
thanks again!
Random, but I was so lonely at one point that i arranged the bach/gounod ave maria for SATB. I thought the original was so beautiful, so i tried to make it in a slightly more modern style to express my emotions while still following the wishes of the original composer/arranger. It turned out almost exactly how I wanted.
Hello,
according to Giulietta, the two opus 27 were originaly dedicated to the Princess of Lichtenstein and the op51 n2 was dedicated to Giulietta. But he gave the op51 n2 to the Countess Lichnowsky and as gift for not giving her the Op52 n1, he cut the Op 27 in two and dedicated the n2 to Giulietta.
The dedications of pieces were gifts : seldomly did composers wrote thinking of someone.
This is not a love song for Giulietta but just a gift because he loved her.
He composed the piece before meeting Giulietta.
The girl was 16 at the time : she was kind of toying with him because aristocracy still considered the musicians as servant.
She knew very well she'll never marry him and she choose Count Gallenberg to be her husband.
(sources : "Beethoven" by Jean and Brigitte MASSIN)
Op27 n2 was composed during a time when Beethoven realised that his growing deafness might be permanent and the sonata might reflect his despair in the 1st movement (a funeral march inspired by Don Giovanni) and the last movement might be his will to not give up and fight
100% agreed. The image of moonlight or unrequited love are popular explanations but the seriousness of Beethoven’s condition (hearing loss) had far more impact on this music. Thank you for your comment.
Our brains' natural synesthesia tells all of us: this song REALLY sounds like the moonlight! It got this peaceful, relaxed feeling that no other song has ever come close to, IMO. It's certainly my favorite classical piece.
song?
@@cock-asianscamservicegamin3012 what do you think the video was about?
I really really appreciate all of your content. You are a passionate musician, and a good video maker. From one musician to another. Cheers
This was a wonderful video and a fresh look at this beautiful piece that I hadn't gotten to see. :) I started playing the Moonlight Sonata (first movement) when I was around 16, about a year after my then-piano teacher refused to teach it to me because she said I wasn't "mature enough." I stopped taking lessons soon after this incident xD, and spent a few years playing just for myself, before picking up lessons again at the age of 18 (at which point I found a piano teacher who was VERY enthusiastic about helping me learn what *I* wanted to play). The Moonlight Sonata will always have a super special place in my heart because it reminds me of that time when the piano stopped being a chore & started to become fun again. I had such a fantastic time puzzling my way through the piece and learning it little by little (and wow-ing my friends once I felt confident enough to play it for a small audience :p). My technique did suffer during my teacher-less time, but I learned that for me personally, great technique is worthless if it isn't backed up by passion and enjoyment. -- Anyway, sorry for this novel :p, and thank you for this inforamtive video! I think I'll go practice now. ;)
(P.S. At the time, I resented my teacher for that "not mature enough" comment, but I no longer do! She was sort of right, and sort of not - it's difficult to explain. But the journey I went on while trying to learn this piece was an important one to make, and my failures were important as well. And over the years as my playing evolved under the tutelage of that second teacher, I realized that the difficult parts HAD to happen so I could come to a deeper understanding of this wonderful, sublime piece of music. I hope that makes some kind of sense! I think back to that first teacher only with fondness now. No more resentment. ;) )
As hobbyist pianist and composer, I can ensure that unfulfilled love is the de facto source of inspiration for the best compositions.
I did not know the story. I loved learning what the inspiration was. Yes, yes to more stories! Great video!
You did a great job with that long-ass sentence. It's written in very old-fashioned English (I guess translated from old-fashioned German), and I think most English people would have to take a second to figure out what it meant so brava. Honestly I sometimes forget that there might be English words you don't know, because it's really excellent.
Very interesting, if sad, video. Would like to see you do more like this for sure ☺️
I never could relate this piece with the moonlight tbh. I just always felt a sense of dread listening to the girst movement. Like someone really important to me passed away.
Moonlight sonata is my favourite piano piece. Now I know the reason why I always feel sad whenever I listen to this music.
The 3rd movement is very popular for guitar.
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I loved this history video! I would love some more
I'm curious about Chopin's Op. 28 no. 15. I've heard stories about this piece and how he came about it. But I think maybe you could give a more accurate historical perspective on it. Just a thought. Loved the Beethoven story! Beethoven's life is always so interesting to me and I love hearing new stories or history about him.
unfortunately there isn't much to say about chopins inspirations because he didn't document them for more than a handful of pieces. the prelude set was started sometime before chopin and George sand went to Majorca in late 1838 and was finished by January of 1839. George sand wrote that one of the preludes reminded her of water falling on a rooftop which chopin disagreed with. it's likely 15 was the prelude she was referring to.
Thank you so much for the effort you put into this video. I'm not a professional musician nor am I a good one but I love music I admire it respect it. And moonlight sonata is one of few pieces that constantly gives me goosebumps
Awesome video and i appreciate it so much! Definitely one of my favorites. Love your videos!
I started piano as a 37 yo adult to play the first movement. It was stuck in my head. Took me 6month to be able to play it. Still working on it but I must admit I am quite proud. Hence my comment :)
Congrats Julien!
One of the most beautiful songs that will ever be written
😳 wow I just played a new interpretation of this piece similar to what you just described literally just 2 hours before watching this video. Thanks for this video. I love that you’re such an expert with your playing and your knowledge.
Thank you. A beautiful story.
Giulietta Guicciardi is pronounced something like “Juliette-a G-witch-ar-dee”
I’m italian 🇮🇹❤️
From an Italian perspective..sonata comes from suonata aka "a sound" . So it's called "a sound almost (like) a fantasy"
I had heard the story before, bc I fell in love with the piece (especially the 3rd movement, I mean listening it) and I googled the piece. But I didn’t know Beethoven didn’t name it! Such a sad story, what a loss!
A young composer named Alma Deutscher is bringing improvisation back to classical music.
She's an incredible composer, pianist and singer. A real musical prodigy ❤️
That's very good of you for posting a history of this piece. Hope you will do chopins pieces next
You made my day brighter. Thank you.
Theses vids are so interesting! Rlly looking forward to more vids like this 💯
You should do more of this type of video. To explain in details the meaning of each piece! I always listen to the classical musics but never able to relate to them.
Just finished learning the full sonata omg I needed thiz
Thank you for telling this story!
Thank you for that amazing video🙏🏻✨🥰
I love your videos especially these types of backstory videos 🙂👍🏽
Annique, thank you so much for this informative and interesting vlog, I did not know all of that. Beethoven is my favorite composer and to learn all of this is remarkable and makes me understand him a bit more. Thank you so much for all of your vlogs, I watch them all and am amazed at your wonderful talent both of playing the piano and developing your vlogs.
never knew it had such a deep background, cool to listen about
Bravo! Thank you!
This was such a good video,More like this!!!!💖
Good to know‼️❗️❣️👋🏻😎🫶🏻🇨🇦👍🏻👀🎼🎹
Re form I do like the way that Koch referred to the 'male and female' themes.
Nicely Done!
currently struggling with this sonata 😥
I agree we should liberate compositions like this from nicknames that strangle the imagination. This is about emotion. Don’t blame it on the sunshine, don’t blame it on the moonlight....
Love this story time 💔
Don't cry annique
Do a challenge of one hour, half an hour, 10 minutes, one minute of Mazpa List
What about the second and third movements then?
Have you seen the film Immortal Beloved? Bernard Rose directs and Gary Oldman as Beethoven. Came out in the late 90s. Check it out.
adorable video. thank you for sharing. ❤
Thank you this was a very interesting video!!
That was fascinating! I didn't know that story but as a period piece fan myself, i am not surprised by the objections of the lady's family. It is very common of the time. Still very sad for him!
I was would be so interested to learn more about G Minor by Bach. I love that song! I would have loved to hear him play it....
Bruh imagine getting piano lessons from Beethoven.
The first movement has a prelude form, the sonata form with the two contrasting themes comes up until the third movement
My man was just going through it
Thank you for this video! The story behind this masterpiece is actually really interesting. I'm currently practising the third movement of Moonlight Sonata, and it's really hard. I can't play the piece fast.
The first movement is written in "alla breve", which is of high importance for the tempo. Basically it means, that most of the interpretations are way too slow.
I love these videos!.. ❤️❤️❤️
Also perhaps an inspiration for Twenty Øne Pilots 'Neon Gravestones' 💛 🖤
Quasi una fantasía means ALMOST A FANTASY
This song is fitting for Jane Austen's Persuasion regarding Anne and Frederick's romance. It was played by Anne in Persuasion 2007. Your explanation gives that scene so much more meaning! 🥰
Well, Herr Beethoven apparently addressed his frustration with the family in the third movement (which I totally enjoy).
Love your video videos are always amazing I want to become a pianist
You should analyze Tempest or Appassionata
Excellent 👏 Very interesting facts about Beethoven's sonatas & sonata form. Also his relationships. Very inspiring ❤️
Love yah💕
5:26 that sounds so much like the ‘other side’ of Jane Austen’s famous opening sentence: “It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife.”
5:11 Suddenly , i can imagine what Beethoven was probably thinking in that 3rd movement
Great information
Hey, nice video! It would be very nice if you try to improvise over Moonlight Sonata one day and upload it!
So this is the main plot of Immortal Beloved
I once read somewhere that the maintheme is inspired by Mozarts Don Giovanni. Apparently researchers found notes by beethoven referencing Don Giovanni.
At the 14 Second Mark th-cam.com/video/BXx4qPf_saM/w-d-xo.html you CLEARLY can hear the transposed Moonlight Sonata Theme.
Im sure your research is completely accurate, I just wanted to add this interesting fact.
Therefore I always try to emphasize a "murdery vibe" to the moonlight sonata. I always imagine a sneaky Murderer whos following his victim.
Yes, I knew the story about his love. When you talked about, later in the video, translating quasi una fantasia, I thought "like" a fantasy would resonate with youngsters as they like to use the "like" word like all the time. I would translate quasi with "sort of" or "kind of". But that's sort of the same as "like".
I had heard so many performances of this sonata, over decades, by different pianists and they generally never rang a bell. And then I heard Schiff play it and after a few bars thought, "that's it". Not a fanboy of his in general, but his Van Beethoven sonatas resonate with me.
Talk about Beethoven. It's a Dutch/Flemish name and the "Van" is really part of the last name. In German "von" generally points to a family of nobility (and the geography of their territory), in Dutch the "van" does not, but rather points to geographic origin only. Omit "von" from a German family name and you start a war. Writing etiquette dictates "van" with capital v when not preceded by first name or initials: Mr. Van Beethoven, but with lowercase when preceded by first name or initials: Ludwig van Beethoven. Post WW2, the Flemish have really messed this up.
As you play Chopin most of the time, talking about where people are from, you know his dad was French and in Poland to teach French to the well to do? In that position he married a Polish woman that became Frédéric's mother - or, the French also have a claim on this composer. Less of course than the Polish because a man inherits the anatomy of his brain from his mother only (on the X chromosome) and his mitochondrial DNA from his mother only too. Why the Y chromosome is there, really, fundamentally - I guess that's why it's called Y?
The question with this Van Beethoven sonata is if it tries to tell a story or if it is just inspired by a mood, or a few sentiments. It's not like Berlioz's fantastic symphony in that we can point out how the story with it evolves with the progression of the music.
I think you should put what movement it is on the title
Random thought:
Do a 1 minute 10 minute 1 hour challenge with La Valse by Ravel
(I haven’t seen any videos with the piece so I assume there are none)
“Sound In The Manner Of Fantasy” in Italian
Another interpretation of the piece is that it's a funeral scene (and as such not very romantic).
For that, people point out to the similarity of the accompaniment to the death scene in Don Giovani's opera by Mozart (which Beethoven has transposed to C# minor for his sonata) for example here: th-cam.com/video/xdrK8EmpuF4/w-d-xo.html. So, I don't know if Beethoven did it on purpose (was inspired by Mozart's work) or if he just happened to come up with a similar sound. It also makes sense to associate it to a funeral due to the rhythmic pattern of the melody (that resembles a funeral march).
Improvisation on the piano is something Elisey Mysin does. He says that, "You can play any music on it, move in time and
space, without noticing anything around."
This new idea is cool actually
In a review, just a few years after the maestro's death, poet and music critic, Ludwig Rellstab compared the first movement of the piece to a boat floating in the moonlight on Lake Lucerne in Switzerland, an image that has often been associated with love and romance. However, nothing could be further from the truth. As subtly implied by its original title, "Quasi Una Fantasia", Beethoven's world-renowned first movement is more of a "Song of Death" than a "Story of Love". It was undoubtedly written by a troubled man suffering from the heartbreak of a lost love, the grief from the death of a close friend, and the devastation of an impending and unavoidable world of silence. Here is the story behind the masterpiece. th-cam.com/video/EuiMxkRTAJw/w-d-xo.html
but, Sonata quasi una fantasia, means that the composition is a Sonata but almost a Fantasia, as in the compositions.
I guess there's been a mix-up with 'sonata' (the composition) and 'suonata' (to play, past tense(more o less)).
Never knew the story behind this piece, it changed a bit my perception of it, the drama is palpable
The marriage proposal - the Parent’s’ reaction: is this the 3rd movement??
Thank you for this🎶🇳🇿
currently breaking my fingers playing the third movement of this sonata
Ever heard it on guitar? This version has been going viral in the last few years: th-cam.com/video/o6rBK0BqL2w/w-d-xo.html
This is so interesting!! Thanks for this video 🥰
Also you've got an accent when saying for example "reprise", where are you from ?
Now we have two different versions of the origin of this sonata Andras Schiff suggests that Beethoven was influenced by Mozart's play Don Giovanni . Interesting indeed . But thanks for the second version beautifully presented as well aporeciated
What about the third movement
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But what about the mood of the mood of the second and third movements?
Please do it with the ballade n.1 by chopin