well batfleck doesnt kill. bvs story line is the reference story of the dark knight in comics. read comics to understand. he didnt kill. or meant to kill if any. but he hurts the victim so badly because batman is worried that criminals are not afraid to him anymore . if batfleck truly kills why he didnt use his jet? or guns? to kill those criminals why he chooses to beat them using his barehand if he can just spray some bullet on them while saving martha?
Batfleck gonna crush your nuts, bomb you and shoot you with his grappling gun. I believe his motto is: "I'm gonna protect and serve the living shit out of you!"
Let me tell you guys a story about 2 inmates who are in an mental institute. One day these guys decide the place sucks so they try to escape.They end up on the roof of the place and they see a building next to the institute that leads to the city *FREEDOM!*. so the one of the guys make the jump to the other side but one is afraid of heights so the guy who made it says ''Don't worry i'll shine my torch across the gap so you can walk across the beam'' the other guy replied with ''No i know you'll just turn it off as soon as i make it halfway across''. THE END? Ha quoting is fun. Two questions Which inmate are you? Which one is Batman and which one is Joker? *BONUS ROUND* God i have nothing better to do with myself Or do i? But hey that's just a theory A GAME THEORY thx for watching guys They did a video on joker recently and now treesicle MAN this subject is popular.
+John Man "Which inmate are you?"-don't know "Which one is Batman and Which one is the Joker?"-the first one who jumped over the narrow gap is Batman, and the other who is afraid of falling is the Joker.
the joker isn't actually insane he is known as super sane AKA he knows he's in a comic book and that he is supposed to be the bad guy. the imaginary axis explained more on this
A better question is: Is Bruce Wayne/Batman insane or super sane? There are theories that he is "as insane as the Joker". If Joker is super sane, then Bruce Wayne is also super sane, dress as a bat, because he knows he is Batman - a comic book hero.
yaajf comments No Batman is just insane. His consciousness still exists in the comic books, which is why he upholds the imaginary morals of them. The Jokers consciousness exists outside of the comic books, he's aware of the pointlessness of the actions inside them which is why he does the things he does. He kills people because he knows it's not real, and isn't afraid to die because he knows he'll be brought back in the next issue.The reason he's laughing is because he finds it funny that everyone else doesn't know they are in a comic book, and so he laughs at how seriously they take everything thinking it's real.
+Miguel The dankest of all memes joker is not a coward he is just free of all emotions he is not scared as he lets batman beat him up all the time he's not a coward he knows batman won't kill him
+Miguel The dankest of all memes idk i see his refusal for help not like "nah i'll just keep on killing people" but more like "no thank you there's no way things could be like the way it was"
+Miguel The dankest of all memes you clearly don't understand the joker as if he was a coward why did he send batman a ticket to the theme park where he was he is not a coward
Both Batman and the Joker had terrible events happening to them, but there's an important difference. Bruce Wayne had the resources and ability to help people, whereas the Joker did not. Also I think The Dark Knight captured a very important point in the scene where Bruce almost goes to kill the man who shot his parents, decides against it, then almost feels bad for the dude when he's shot exiting the trial. We all feel rage and hatred sometimes, and occasionally it pushes people over the edge. But at the end of the day, most people keep their morals even after traumatic experiences. It takes a lot to break a person completely, and while it can and does happen, I think it takes a special kind of person to actually flip out and kill another
I like that gets killed afterwards and the whole time, I feel like April knew what he was planning to do. It just relieves me because I can relate to it. He had the power to get revenge but he chose a more better path and it was immediately taken care of. It reminds me of the quote that sums a bible verse "Revenge is the Lord's."
listen to your first line exactly like you said, batman had more then enough money to handle and take care of it. Joker had none of that and had a way worst day (going off of the killing joke lore) he had his wife and kid killed, to only then be dumped in a batch of chemicals which ruins his skin and burns his nerves and then forced to be alone and deal with these problems. While batman only had his parentsk illed and had resources to cope
“When your the villain of the story nothing matters except keeping the audience entertained cause......well........if they don’t care to read you why would you keep on existing” -the Joker
“All it takes is one bad day to reduce the sanest man alive to lunacy. That's how far the world is from where I am. Just one bad day.” ― Alan Moore, Batman: The Killing Joke I am honestly that close. I realize I am the Joke one day at a time. I always get dealt the wrong hand all the time.
@@anythinggoes4907 Just checked his account. At minimum everything was 2+ years old, that I saw. So yeah, might actually be dead. RIP 2012 account. Or he has a new account.
DevilsBathtub the best explantion theory on why homer acts the way he does is because he KNOWS it's all fake and nothing matters. like the nihilism theorem where morals don't matter. he knows they don't. he knows they are just meaningless comic book characters he is killing. like is playing gta. we know it's only a game so we don't care.
Then explain this: Why didn't Bruce Wayne become The Joker? Why didn't James Gordon become The Joker? Simple: Because BATMAN was right. He believed that everyone was moral, and good at heart. That not everyone is a monster like Joker. There is the desire to do bad, it is there. But it's our choice whether we do bad, or not.
Isn't that what was said in the video? That the joker snapped but we don't all have to? You have to admit that it's more fun to me immoral and nihilistic than to be moral - and that is NOT to say that I don't believe in morals, because I believe the world can't run without them - but the video explains that because the Joker KNOWS that he's in a comic book, none of his actions actually matter. But Batman doesn't know that so he operates as most normal people do: with a moral conscious to do whatever he can to help.
zsombor1 You, think you get a choice? I'm sorry to say this but the joker is right. All these people were just like any other until one bad day. You have that shadow in you too. It is what mankind truly is. Animals and monsters, we are a part of the shadow
I never said that they chose it. According to the Joker, one bad day, and you'll become like him. This has nothing to do with the chemical stuff. Batman had his bad day, when his parents were killed, he didn't snap. Gordon also had his bad day, he also didn't snap. Can you explain this?
Treecical I have been feeling depressed and I got a notification saying joker I love him but when I saw this I feel less depressed and know I know what's going on thx treecical
"That's the painful bit of comedy, you always take shots from folks who just don't get the joke. " "If you explain a joke, there is no joke." Some Joker quotes from the animated series.
to be honest the joker is the absolute embodiment of a person turning mad, look into the world of today, somewhere a person gets murdered, killed or tortured for very little, a person can kill without quarrel, harm animals and children without remorse.. he's the best version of the madness that drives to consume the common man, only difference is...who can be strong enough to suppress it for life?
"The best of the best can be brought to [the Joker's] level with a few turns of misfortune". Yep, a philosophy disproved (in the DCU) in The Killing Joke ---regular good people CAN'T be turned into Joker because of a bad day, only people who are already sick.
me and my "shadow" as he called it kinda get along. i dont ignore it but i dont give in to it either i just dream about what i want to do to some people and that calms me and the "shadow" down!
+Shea McGladdery it was actually from the imaginary axis video which proves that instead of being insane, he's super sane. He is nihilistic because he knows he's in a comic book
id be batman and instead id use my money become iron man and create a paradox where ironman is from dc and marvels civil war was between batman and captain america, batman would be the stan lee drawn version of course!
And that is why I LOVE BATMAN. Bruce Wayne didn't even have a girlfriend, can't remember of his close friends, and he has been bullied at school all his life and his parents died. Sure, at first he decided to avenge them like everyone would. You guys think, sure, they left him billions of $$$ after they died. For YOU and ME, that sounds like a good thing. But for HIM, that's responsibilities. Bruce Wayne took his horrible fucking day to Ra'sAl Ghul, who tried to make him a sociopath. But this guy, instead of submitting his will to the darkness, decided to be a candle where there was no light to be found. There is something about Bruce Wayne, Altair Ibn La-Ahad, Ezio Auditore, Connor Kenway that makes me look up to them as elder brothers. From AC3 "Why do you STILL defend those who do not care about you ??" "Because if I don't, no one else will !!!"
We all have bad days. We all have darkness inside us. The difference is some of us become Batman, and a few others become The Joker. Everyone else just keeps living in the grey area in the middle.
This needs to be framed on a wall somewhere. Also Batman getting out of Bane's Prison in The Dark Knight Rises symbolizes everything that Bruce Wayne is: He's not clawing out of the prison for himself, he did it because his knowledge that he can be a candle where there was no light to be found wouldn't allow him to stay there. That one scene in The Dark Knight Rises is something that I believe can prevent suicides. All you have to think about is ONE person who needs you. When you think of THEM, your decision will go from "I can't go on" to "I MUST go on." I went through this in high school, when I drew out a plan to off myself. But I had a childhood friend who hung onto my every action because I was his ONLY friend. I needed to keep living so that HE could keep living.
I hate to be the devils advocate, but i think you guys are kinda missing the point. Sure, Batman is deffinitely better than the Joker, and is far from Bruce Wayne's shadow, but...Just look at what he does throughout all his cannon. He beats, tortures, disfigures, and brands people regardless of who they are or why they have dont what they did, and if you think about it, Batman indirectly causes harm and danger to everyone around him just by existing. He keepd to his morals, sure, but he very often doesnt shy back from doing this to even police officers. Batman has a god complex, he believes he stands above the law and humans, and thus can do as he pleases. Batman isnt the candle in the light, thats his whole point. Batman is meant to be terrifying to everyone. Sure, WE know he doesnt do bad, but one scene (from a horrible movie, i know, but it still gets the point across) from Batman V. Superman, the scene where he is first introduced, shows that even everyday civilians, even victims, are TERRIFIED of Batman. He doesnt give people hope, because of his unpredictability, the fact of how unkown he is to the public induce pure terror. Batman isnt the light in the darkness, he isnt justice or righteousness. Batman is more like Light from Death Note in the early stages of the show, or the War Doctor from Doctor Who. Batman is someone who, out of a sense of justice, does absolutely horrible things to those around him, but, unlike the two examples, he doesnt realize how inherently wrong it is what he is doing.
I played GTA 5 and I felt bad whenever I killed someone, but then I guess I got use to it... (*_*) I would never kill someone though or even hurt someone, unless they push me far enough, then well I yell at them, but it makes me feel bad and apologize for yelling at said people.
Keven Guzman Wooooow. Good luck, whenever you go through the intense feeling(s) of betrayal, disappointment, discouragement, spite, condemnation, heart-break, loss. You be older or younger, my heart goes to you, regardless.
I don't think that was quite right tho, I believe joker is insane because he knows he's in a comic book, joker has broken the 4th wall numerous times and the reason he kills so many people and doesn't care what he does that could " potentially" kill him because he knows if he died the comic writers would bring him back and that the people's lives don't matter. Actually Martian man hunter saw that this is what joker believed and actually pushed that theory of his out of his mind and after he did that joker actually quit crime and became normal again.
The Joker is extremely smart and manipulative, the red hood flashback in Arkham Origins is a perfect example of that. The way he squirms his way into Harleens psyche. Also Arkham Origins Joker was my favorite video game portrayal of the character. Totally, completely unhinged.
"everyone thinks they are moral" sorry buddy, not everyone, i dont consider myself to be moral, but im not evil, id say im sowhere in between this is what i mean "SOUL! YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SAVE HUMANITY!" "ok, how?" "YOU HAVE TO TRAIN HARDCORE FOR 1 YEAR STRAIGHT NONSTOP! AND THEN-" "hold on, let me stop you there, 1 year straight? no thanks" "BUT HUMANITY NEEDS YOU!" "nah"
I wonder what causes the difference between the type of nihilism the joker shows and the type that is more indifferent to suffering rather than having any desire to cause it. By the reasoning of nihilism why should the joker care at all what anyone believes about their morals? What meaning is there in making them believe what he does?
Maybe the joker isn't really a full on nihilist. With the concept of subjective morality, you could say his actions are justifiable and he believes he is doing the "moral" thing by trying to make people understand what he believes is the reality of the world.
Think about these 2 things: 1. Karma - what goes around comes around 2. The golden rule - do on to others, as you want done apon you There are always consequences for your actions, even if you go very dark.... The extreme of having no values will play into who you are. (in this lifetime or in the next)
To truly succumb to nihilism is to give up living because there was never a point to live in the first place and the experience we call "life" is filled mostly with pain leaving us to scramble for the fewer moments where we are truly happy. Nietzsche himself called nihilism a "sickness" and to submit to it was to be a "passive nihilist" and to recognize the meaninglessness of life yet still continue finding a reason to live is to be an "active nihilist". Essentially, once nihilism is recognized, you either waste away or accept that you need to keep lying to yourself to keep living and be okay if you end up dying before you achieve everything you've wanted to. The Joker seems to fall in a grey area between the two because he's given up on everything he was ever told about the world and decided that life is worth living if he's able to do everything he's ever instinctually wanted to do: to tear down the ridiculous societies that screwed him over, to take immediate vengeance on the people who wronged him, to have fun without giving a flying fuck of what anyone else thinks. However, the Joker is still afraid of the idea of dying, of being forgotten, of apathy. This has been shown many times in the comics, TV shows, movies, and games. He is afraid of true nihilism so he clouds his mind from thinking about what any of his actions and efforts mean ultimately. He's eager to point out the absurdness of common morality and society, but he's terrified to see that same ridiculousness in himself.
depends on who you take it out on, how badly you beat them up, and if it prevented something that the person would have done /was doing that it is considered good or bad.
Deadpool's limits are his contracts and any bad guys that need killing. real people don't have limits. once they lose it, they do whatever they think is "fun" for them
Well, there is psychological fear, and then there is fear after something physical happens. When you cross the line of doing really bad things - it becomes your life. You will carry it with you, and have to correct it. Even the worst things imaginable, can be forgiven. Because, all of us have done really bad things before. (just not in this lifetime)
+Job sih When he says the jokers right about everyone being one bad day away he was still right but that just wasn't Gordons bad day, it was a really shitty day but clearly not enough to send him over the edge. That isn't saying it's impossible for it to happen to Jim its just saying the Joker failed to create that bad day. There's no way of knowing exactly what combination of shitty things causes someone to snap like that and it's going to be different for everyone. All the Joker did was give Jim the shittiest day he could, the Joker is no magician he couldn't know exactly what it would take to throw this exact guy over the edge so he just does what he can, the failure isn't his fault the human psyche is just still too unpredictable. The mere fact that Jim knew why the Joker was doing what he did could alone have a massive impact on how he views the experience making him potentially able to take much more abuse. His point was that everyone even batman has the potential for that bad day, we can't know what it would take but that's what makes the character so interesting, the fact that at any moment that day could come for us in its own unique way. Lets hope we never see that day come for batman, the fans would riot.
InMaTeofDeath You're ignoring the possibility that it just couldn't happen to Gordon. Not everyone has a snapping point. All it takes is one person to not go bat shit crazy to prove the Joker wrong which Gordon did.
Brandonious15987 As I said all that proved is the Joker failed to give that bad day to Gordon that says nothing about if its possible for Gordon to have that day. And I disagree with the idea that not everyone has a snapping point. If you think you can prove that wrong with evidence and facts to show its impossible for some to go over the edge I'll be happy to see it.
Everyone has a breaking point, all brains can only take so much. What do you mean couldnt happen to Gordon? He was already on his way. Collapsed and puked after the tunnel of horrors. Fortunately for him as his mind began to bend Batman arrived to get joker away from him and told him Barbara was alive in hospital. Had batman arrived a few moments later Gordon wouldve been beyond saving. You have absolutely no idea what youre talking about. You are a small thinker who misses details, the big picture and so you draw false conclusions.
"Government employees these people walked around us everyday" you sure about that one I pretty sure government employees pretty much live in high castles.
there are 3 jokers. the crime killling (like the one you explained) the prankster gangster mentally unstable likely the first death joker is the crime killing
Tbh I kinda understand joker's philosophy and I think deep down we are all just like him we all have bad days but he just had one so bad that it made him give in to his insanity he embraces his psychotic and twisted side unlike us but only cause we haven't had a day that bad...yet batman has had a day just as bad as joker but instead of giving into his insanity he learned to fight it and become a knight for justice but it will only be a matter of time before batman has another one of those really bad days only then will he finally give into the insanity
+Ejstorm So someone who is basically a son to you being beat to death isn't as bad as your parents being shot in front of you? I sort of doubt that because at least the parents' deaths were quickish
+Navyseal4000 that moment nearly did drive him to to the point of insanity as he explained to Jason as to why he didn't kill the joker he wanted to kill him but he fought the urge to do so batman is strong physically and mentally so that's why I'm saying it would have to be the worst day of all time in order for him to finally break
he is to determined he has a goal wich realy is what was taken away from joker all his goals in life were taken away from him in an instant and he had no time to rebuild so he just snaped where as batman he has a goal and he will always keep defending that goal so all of gotham and everything he has ever cared for would have to be prety much nuked and made uninfabitable because he would help rebuild it if it wasnt.man i dont understand why batman isnt a green lantern.or why the scarecrow isnt a yelow one.
This reminds me of the Yen Yag (I don't know how to spell the circle with the white and black halves with the opposite dot inside) good people are capable of evil and bad people are capable of good
Joker isn't a Psychopath, psychopaths are BORN, however sociopaths aren't born, they are turned into that..... Idk? I was doing to start something, but that's only going to leave this into a more complicated road......nah
I don't think the reason joker is so crazy or insane is nihilism I think it is in fact because he knows he's in a comic book. He becomes so ruthless and careless because he knows he can't actually die because the writers will just bring him back, he kills people carefree because he knows their lives don't matter. In a comic awhile ago Martian manhunter saw this theory in jokers head and actually forced that outta his mind and after that joker actually became normal and gave up in crime fighting.
all it really takes is one bad day, thats the point of the story of Batman and Joker, both are the same, representing the most base forces in their true form, one is the spear that destroys all, the other is the shield that protects everything, thats the real reason why Batman takes on Joker, if anybody else were to they would lose
A man who does good things but is not aware of the other option is not a good person, he is naive. A truly good person is one who knows he is capable of doing terrible things, for personal gain or otherwise, and yet chooses to do good...
that is extremely interesting. I'm trying to study the Joker at the moment, well, studying mindsets and sanity. I'm trying to gather more sources. so I would really appreciate if anyone could tell me about a website that could give me a hand, minus Wikipedia of course! 😀😀😀 thanks!
I don't have any comics and my parents are reluctant to get some featuring the Joker psychological state of mind, I'm just trying to study the mind of a suppressant man
Oh....in that case, you can follow some youtube channels like comicstorian or comics explained that read the comics and tell you the story! At least that's what I do! Next best thing, bud :)
8:17 is ironic since Luke Skywalker is portrayed by Mark Hamill. Decades after Star Wars Episode VI: Return of The Jedi, he voices The Joker in Batman: The Animated Series and various other Batman media from that day fourth.
I'm watching this video over and over and over again... im watching this too much... This video is like... drugs to me, im obsessed with the joker and I want to understand him, and you explained more about him. Thanks man/men (cuz its more people working on the channel)
Best joker origin is telltales joker hands down. It may not be your personal favourite joker or the best joker but the origin story is by far the best. It took more than just being pushed into a chemical bath. It took being lied to, having no memories,having no idea who you are, being alone, never having a childhood, your whole life behind bars in an asylum with no recollection of who you are, being abused, getting in with the wrong crowd, it would be traumatising. Waking up in an asylum with bleach white skin and green hair with no memories at all. Having doctors ask you questions and prod and poke you. Being surrounded by nut cases and then getting out of the asylum only to realise the real world is worse than the bubble you lived in your whole life.
as an armchair philosopher and self-described active nihilist - THANK YOU for not calling nietzsche a nihilist. he was a brilliant man, no doubt. but he was no nihilist, at least certainly not in his later years.
"What makes The Joker so universally loved...?" Jessica Rabbit: "He makes me laugh." "How can you form a connection with someone who's beliefs are so far from your own?" Me: One bad day! (Watches video) Me again: Oh, I got it right.
I always saw it that they were both pushed to the edge of insanity, but Batman was strong enough to fight the temptation and rise above it, while Joker embraced the darkness
I think you're forgetting something: those people you mentioned obviously had serious mental issues. We all have bad days, hell sometimes we have a STRING of bad days yet we somehow are able to not slaughter everyone around us in a laughing, blood-crazed fit of rage. The Joker's useage of 'one bad day' is just him excusing his behavior. What separates us from Joker and those people you mentioned is that we understand that hurting others is wrong and we seek out other, non-violent means, to vent out our anger.
The Batman and The Joker are opposite equals. Sure, Joker is not a billionaire bachelor, but their origin stories are similar. The one difference between the two sociopaths is choice. Batman chose to use his bad day to make sure others don't end messed up like him. The Joker gave up on society. It is easier to quit caring, to be a troll. It is too easy. To better yourself, to push for a better world that allows children the things Bruce was deprived of is a bigger challenge. I personally would go through door number 3. Commissioner Gordon. He had a bad day and was not broken. The Joker tried his best, but Jim was incorruptible. Choice is the only factor that determines our direction in life. We choose to be our future self
Batsy did snap he said that in the killing joke to babara " you haven't been push over the edge of abyss where you don't care anymore and all hope dies." Now what I'm trying to shape is that what if bat man was poor? and was raised not by Alfred....he could bd worse than the joker.
This may sound crazy, yes, but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't. The way I see things is balance; so, you must work together with your darkness if you are wishing to do good in your life. Therefore, while you do good things, you MUST do something dark in order to stay balanced, or else "the scale will tip over." Same meaning of the Joker's saying, It just takes one bad day. Furthermore, if you think about your life as a scale, too much of good or evil would cause that scale to become greatly imbalanced on one side. Again, it takes one bad day... you are constantly fighting to do good, the scale keeps going onto one side to the tipping point, and then BAM! Evil took over because the scale fell over; you lost control. However, visa versa for those who wish to do only evil. This is why I choose balance so my scale will NEVER tip over.
There is one man... Whom the Joker has never come across... He died with his family. Three: in certain extreme situations, the law is inadequate. In order to shame its inadequacy, it is necessary to act outside the law. To pursue... natural justice. This is not vengeance. Revenge is not a valid motive, it's an emotional response. No, not vengeance. Punishment.
I have to agree that everyone can reach point where they snap and turn to insanity/ break mentally... but it takes more than just one bad day. We don't know the history and the context of the real life cases you mentioned as an example.. we don't have a deeper understanding of what was going on with these people that snapped, all the other things going on in their lives, their pasts, their minds that might've led up to this.
Everything you say makes sense to me... I have days where I feel the shadow in me wanting to do a bad thing but then I bring myself back to reality and how do I stop myself from it taking over me because if it only takes one bad day..... then I’m now scared that we’re all going to have a bad day at some time and if I had a choice I’d be batman because I’d love to be rich and glide
Does Batman really think that people are inherently good? He's been shown to be pretty skeptical towards even his own allies. He goes so far as to learn all of the secret identities and weaknesses of the other members of the Justice League, which he plans to use on the off chance any of them go rogue.
I am pretty mental strong. I've never got in a fight. I've had thoughts and had out bursts of anger, but it takes a while to build up. I've had one burst of anger which 'crossed the line'.
The Joker of course. The Joker is mentally an adult and learned the hard way that morals and aesthetics are a prison for children. Be the Joker, in sense of being hardboiled and uncaring. The Batman is in essence a stubborn child that refuses to see truth of the world. Alfred even states that he doesn't believe that Bruce's mind ever matured with his body. Batman is a child with the strength and influence of a man. Why else would you continue to fight an never ending battle "every single night" for 40 years.
"Incorruptible in his rule to not kill anyone" except batfleck, he don't give a fuck
I believe you
well batfleck doesnt kill. bvs story line is the reference story of the dark knight in comics. read comics to understand. he didnt kill. or meant to kill if any. but he hurts the victim so badly because batman is worried that criminals are not afraid to him anymore . if batfleck truly kills why he didnt use his jet? or guns? to kill those criminals why he chooses to beat them using his barehand if he can just spray some bullet on them while saving martha?
i mean the bvs plotline refers to the plotline of the dark knight returns
Batfleck gonna crush your nuts, bomb you and shoot you with his grappling gun. I believe his motto is: "I'm gonna protect and serve the living shit out of you!"
Unless the person's mom is named Martha
''why so serious'' You were waiting a long time to use that line weren't you? (¬0¬)
Pretty much yeah.
Knew it!
Let me tell you guys a story about 2 inmates who are in an mental institute. One day these guys decide the place sucks so they try to escape.They end up on the roof of the place and they see a building next to the institute that leads to the city *FREEDOM!*. so the one of the guys make the jump to the other side but one is afraid of heights so the guy who made it says ''Don't worry i'll shine my torch across the gap so you can walk across the beam'' the other guy replied with ''No i know you'll just turn it off as soon as i make it halfway across''.
THE END?
Ha quoting is fun.
Two questions
Which inmate are you?
Which one is Batman and which one is Joker?
*BONUS ROUND*
God i have nothing better to do with myself
Or do i?
But hey that's just a theory
A GAME THEORY
thx for watching guys
They did a video on joker recently and now treesicle MAN this subject is popular.
+John Man lol....I heard that from batman the killing joke
+John Man "Which inmate are you?"-don't know
"Which one is Batman and Which one is the Joker?"-the first one who jumped over the narrow gap is Batman, and the other who is afraid of falling is the Joker.
the joker isn't actually insane he is known as super sane AKA he knows he's in a comic book and that he is supposed to be the bad guy. the imaginary axis explained more on this
Amos Doyle oh my gawrd you saw that.
He knows the 4th wall and I watched the same video
A better question is: Is Bruce Wayne/Batman insane or super sane? There are theories that he is "as insane as the Joker". If Joker is super sane, then Bruce Wayne is also super sane, dress as a bat, because he knows he is Batman - a comic book hero.
yaajf comments No Batman is just insane. His consciousness still exists in the comic books, which is why he upholds the imaginary morals of them. The Jokers consciousness exists outside of the comic books, he's aware of the pointlessness of the actions inside them which is why he does the things he does. He kills people because he knows it's not real, and isn't afraid to die because he knows he'll be brought back in the next issue.The reason he's laughing is because he finds it funny that everyone else doesn't know they are in a comic book, and so he laughs at how seriously they take everything thinking it's real.
Amos Doyle I'm not in a A COMIC BOOK!
but that would be Kinda
funny.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!
imo i think it's easier to be joker, not everyone is as rich as bruce wayne
+Miguel The dankest of all memes he's not a coward though.
+Miguel The dankest of all memes joker is not a coward he is just free of all emotions he is not scared as he lets batman beat him up all the time he's not a coward he knows batman won't kill him
+Miguel The dankest of all memes idk i see his refusal for help not like "nah i'll just keep on killing people" but more like "no thank you there's no way things could be like the way it was"
+Miguel The dankest of all memes you clearly don't understand the joker as if he was a coward why did he send batman a ticket to the theme park where he was he is not a coward
+Miguel The dankest of all memes whet do you live it's mid day
Both Batman and the Joker had terrible events happening to them, but there's an important difference. Bruce Wayne had the resources and ability to help people, whereas the Joker did not.
Also I think The Dark Knight captured a very important point in the scene where Bruce almost goes to kill the man who shot his parents, decides against it, then almost feels bad for the dude when he's shot exiting the trial. We all feel rage and hatred sometimes, and occasionally it pushes people over the edge. But at the end of the day, most people keep their morals even after traumatic experiences. It takes a lot to break a person completely, and while it can and does happen, I think it takes a special kind of person to actually flip out and kill another
I like that gets killed afterwards and the whole time, I feel like April knew what he was planning to do. It just relieves me because I can relate to it. He had the power to get revenge but he chose a more better path and it was immediately taken care of. It reminds me of the quote that sums a bible verse "Revenge is the Lord's."
I'd choose the Joker
That's a good point
Nathan Moore i know how it feels to be mentally broken and then to just snap into bloody rage
listen to your first line
exactly like you said, batman had more then enough money to handle and take care of it. Joker had none of that and had a way worst day (going off of the killing joke lore) he had his wife and kid killed, to only then be dumped in a batch of chemicals which ruins his skin and burns his nerves and then forced to be alone and deal with these problems. While batman only had his parentsk illed and had resources to cope
This is a story all about how Joker's life turned upside down
I'm singing Prince of Bel-Air now. Thanks.
I'd like you to take a seat close your mouth like you're dumb, I'll tell you how he became the Clown Prince of Gotham
😂😂
"We either die a hero or live long enough to see ourselves become a villain."
Awesome quote and reference.🙂
Where was that quote from again? I know it and it sounds so familiar but where was it from?
Mine Jaeger The dark knight
“When your the villain of the story nothing matters except keeping the audience entertained cause......well........if they don’t care to read you why would you keep on existing”
-the Joker
Magnetin Darkwind I hate that line!
Joker: there's a little of me, inside everybody
Chaotic Gamer, someone said to me that nobody can insane as the Joker, but these examples of people prooved that the Joker was right
True
That Sounds Disgusting.
When It's Out Of Context, Of Course.
“All it takes is one bad day to reduce the sanest man alive to lunacy. That's how far the world is from where I am. Just one bad day.”
― Alan Moore, Batman: The Killing Joke
I am honestly that close. I realize I am the Joke one day at a time. I always get dealt the wrong hand all the time.
Wanna talk, or just vent?
@@anythinggoes4907 Just checked his account. At minimum everything was 2+ years old, that I saw.
So yeah, might actually be dead. RIP 2012 account.
Or he has a new account.
What do you think about nihilism? Is it a realistic viewing of the world or are nihilists simply pessimists? Also here's a butthole > ( o )
So were you like livestreaming while waiting for the video to upload Treesicle?
mmhmm a butthole
joker
ddduwj
Why'd you copy off Wisecrack?
i don't think the joker is insane, he just doesn't give a fuck what people think about him.
he is truly free.
DevilsBathtub the best explantion theory on why homer acts the way he does is because he KNOWS it's all fake and nothing matters. like the nihilism theorem where morals don't matter. he knows they don't. he knows they are just meaningless comic book characters he is killing. like is playing gta. we know it's only a game so we don't care.
joker* my phone auto corrected to homer
fuck school i wanna blow shit up
DevilsBathtub he is supersane see imaginary axis's video
DevilsBathtub he knows he is in a movie/comic and all that shit thats why he doesnt care what happens and shit
"I used to think my life was a tragedy but now I realize it's a comedy."
Greatest line ever
"The Joker is in you"
Me: Oh
Joker: What? It's just the tip.
I was thinking of another tip 😂
Joker amd vader
the best villains in cinema history
and star wars is a terrible series of movies that people like because their popular, thats the only reason ive gotten from any star wars fan
I liked Star wars not even knowing it was popular, I personally just like the Lore.
Nick Daniels I like the series of Star Wars, not the movies, because of its great expansive lore
@@nickdaniels7615
If you've seen Star Wars the clone wars, out definitely makes you like The star wars movies s bit more in my opinion
Then explain this: Why didn't Bruce Wayne become The Joker? Why didn't James Gordon become The Joker? Simple: Because BATMAN was right. He believed that everyone was moral, and good at heart. That not everyone is a monster like Joker. There is the desire to do bad, it is there. But it's our choice whether we do bad, or not.
Isn't that what was said in the video? That the joker snapped but we don't all have to? You have to admit that it's more fun to me immoral and nihilistic than to be moral - and that is NOT to say that I don't believe in morals, because I believe the world can't run without them - but the video explains that because the Joker KNOWS that he's in a comic book, none of his actions actually matter. But Batman doesn't know that so he operates as most normal people do: with a moral conscious to do whatever he can to help.
Thank you I can sleep at night nowing I have a choice
zsombor1 You, think you get a choice? I'm sorry to say this but the joker is right. All these people were just like any other until one bad day. You have that shadow in you too. It is what mankind truly is. Animals and monsters, we are a part of the shadow
+The beach Bum I would recommend learning how to read, moron.
I never said that they chose it. According to the Joker, one bad day, and you'll become like him. This has nothing to do with the chemical stuff. Batman had his bad day, when his parents were killed, he didn't snap. Gordon also had his bad day, he also didn't snap. Can you explain this?
Joker the type of guy to not brush his teeth
hes killing so much people that he doesnt have time to do thar
So batman are go to die or do you need me to kill you batman
Luis Torres your teeth turn yellow sometimes when you get red grease paint on it depending on the brand type and things like that
some edgy teen in the comment section is probably saying he could be like this.
Joker the reason why you even care about this is weird enough to care
Treecical I have been feeling depressed and I got a notification saying joker I love him but when I saw this I feel less depressed and know I know what's going on
thx treecical
Glad we can help, Rory!
+Treesicle you're not a little worried this guy felt less depressed when he saw video explaining why the joker is a masochistic mass murderer?
+Vinal Chaudhary Ehh, the cops can deal with it if it takes a bad turn.
I am joking pls don't sue me.
Olie of Terra too late the cops are on the way to arrest
And thats the story you never knew
Vinal Chaudhary But I know it now.
So rename it to 'The Story You Just Knew'?
"That's the painful bit of comedy, you always take shots from folks who just don't get the joke. " "If you explain a joke, there is no joke." Some Joker quotes from the animated series.
*Painful truths
to be honest the joker is the absolute embodiment of a person turning mad, look into the world of today, somewhere a person gets murdered, killed or tortured for very little, a person can kill without quarrel, harm animals and children without remorse.. he's the best version of the madness that drives to consume the common man, only difference is...who can be strong enough to suppress it for life?
Also Joker did not corrupt Harvey Dent---that's just in the movies. Dent has had a split personality disorder since forever.
"The best of the best can be brought to [the Joker's] level with a few turns of misfortune". Yep, a philosophy disproved (in the DCU) in The Killing Joke ---regular good people CAN'T be turned into Joker because of a bad day, only people who are already sick.
The few examples you listed are the EXCEPTIONS.
Injustice Superman
And Red Hood and Harley Quin
He screwed up Superman tho
you are a joker, and you are a joker, everyone is a joker!
I don't hear people laughing
That's because they're dead, joker release the laughing gas again.
hahaha HAHAHA HAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
THERE CAN BE OOONLY ONE!!!
+Onkledonk well, _technically_ there's 3.
me and my "shadow" as he called it kinda get along. i dont ignore it but i dont give in to it either i just dream about what i want to do to some people and that calms me and the "shadow" down!
and ive had MANY bad days...
so do I
I drew one teacher geting burned and eaten alive!
Sounds brutal but as long as you take it out by drawing and not for real
it calmed me down fast and i have a game called torcher the murderer
when you really think about it joker is a fucking psychotic genius.
He's not insane, he's super sane
+Kaeden Ngai-Natsuhara wasnt that revealed in film theory or one of the comic books, i can't remember tbh
Kaeden Ngai-Natsuhara I wouldn't say he's sane since he clearly does have some sort of trauma from that one bad day
+Shea McGladdery it was actually from the imaginary axis video which proves that instead of being insane, he's super sane. He is nihilistic because he knows he's in a comic book
+Titan kroW he was called supersane in a comic by a theripist.
id be batman and instead id use my money become iron man and create a paradox where ironman is from dc and marvels civil war was between batman and captain america, batman would be the stan lee drawn version of course!
And that is why I LOVE BATMAN. Bruce Wayne didn't even have a girlfriend, can't remember of his close friends, and he has been bullied at school all his life and his parents died. Sure, at first he decided to avenge them like everyone would. You guys think, sure, they left him billions of $$$ after they died. For YOU and ME, that sounds like a good thing. But for HIM, that's responsibilities. Bruce Wayne took his horrible fucking day to Ra'sAl Ghul, who tried to make him a sociopath. But this guy, instead of submitting his will to the darkness, decided to be a candle where there was no light to be found. There is something about Bruce Wayne, Altair Ibn La-Ahad, Ezio Auditore, Connor Kenway that makes me look up to them as elder brothers. From AC3 "Why do you STILL defend those who do not care about you ??" "Because if I don't, no one else will !!!"
We all have bad days. We all have darkness inside us. The difference is some of us become Batman, and a few others become The Joker. Everyone else just keeps living in the grey area in the middle.
This needs to be framed on a wall somewhere. Also Batman getting out of Bane's Prison in The Dark Knight Rises symbolizes everything that Bruce Wayne is: He's not clawing out of the prison for himself, he did it because his knowledge that he can be a candle where there was no light to be found wouldn't allow him to stay there.
That one scene in The Dark Knight Rises is something that I believe can prevent suicides. All you have to think about is ONE person who needs you. When you think of THEM, your decision will go from "I can't go on" to "I MUST go on." I went through this in high school, when I drew out a plan to off myself. But I had a childhood friend who hung onto my every action because I was his ONLY friend. I needed to keep living so that HE could keep living.
So your greatest heroes are fictional characters?
I hate to be the devils advocate, but i think you guys are kinda missing the point. Sure, Batman is deffinitely better than the Joker, and is far from Bruce Wayne's shadow, but...Just look at what he does throughout all his cannon.
He beats, tortures, disfigures, and brands people regardless of who they are or why they have dont what they did, and if you think about it, Batman indirectly causes harm and danger to everyone around him just by existing. He keepd to his morals, sure, but he very often doesnt shy back from doing this to even police officers. Batman has a god complex, he believes he stands above the law and humans, and thus can do as he pleases.
Batman isnt the candle in the light, thats his whole point. Batman is meant to be terrifying to everyone. Sure, WE know he doesnt do bad, but one scene (from a horrible movie, i know, but it still gets the point across) from Batman V. Superman, the scene where he is first introduced, shows that even everyday civilians, even victims, are TERRIFIED of Batman. He doesnt give people hope, because of his unpredictability, the fact of how unkown he is to the public induce pure terror.
Batman isnt the light in the darkness, he isnt justice or righteousness. Batman is more like Light from Death Note in the early stages of the show, or the War Doctor from Doctor Who. Batman is someone who, out of a sense of justice, does absolutely horrible things to those around him, but, unlike the two examples, he doesnt realize how inherently wrong it is what he is doing.
Batman didn’t find light, if anything he found a way to be the joker but in a way that we think is “right” he crippled and beats people.
admit it, when you say The Joker, you will always picture Ledger, not Leto!
Nope I go back to Mark Hamill Joker
Cesar Romero,
FOR THE WIN!
Exactly
you're not special. No one automatically pictures every single joker thats ever been played when they hear joker
+Joey K that literary makes no sense
I played GTA 5 and I felt bad whenever I killed someone, but then I guess I got use to it... (*_*) I would never kill someone though or even hurt someone, unless they push me far enough, then well I yell at them, but it makes me feel bad and apologize for yelling at said people.
Keven Guzman Wooooow. Good luck, whenever you go through the intense feeling(s) of betrayal, disappointment, discouragement, spite, condemnation, heart-break, loss. You be older or younger, my heart goes to you, regardless.
Me being sadistic: *Push*
Look at this boy scout
(I mean that as a compliment)
What really gets to me is that there's like 100 billionaires in the whole world, and not one of those losers has decided to become batman
So Joker is that child who n one not even teacher believes in his right statement so he does anything to prove himself right
Did anyone notice markiplier in this video lol
I saw it lol
4:07 and 6:22 for anyone who can't find him;)
How old are you people... Of course everyone saw him, it's not like he was hidden or anything.
+Matías Ibañez im 15 mate
24...
If i have a bad day, i just sing
Cheesei Games What do you sing mostly? If you don't mind me asking.
Cheesei Games if I have a bad day I use that to make the next day good
If I had a bad day I kill myself
That's so wholesome.
"The Joker is in you, he's in me, he's in all of us!" - She
Batman. I always wanted to be Batman 😂😂😂 My favourite villain was Poison Ivy ooooo she was pretty cool lol
He's your reflection! He lives in me!
+Joeley747 fucking savage
She being Harley Quinn?
+Joeley747 You're profile picture matches that comment perfectly 😂
Good job using only the Mark Hamill laughs
Gabriel Martinez WHO's he?.... Sound's like a great dude.
he played Luke Skywalker in Star Wars
we all have a little monster inside us
@Pallten32 Or is Doki Doki a reference to that fact?
Am I insane for thinking that Nihilism is the only thing that makes sense? Doesn't stop me from enjoying myself though.
We've all got different opinions on life. If Nihilism makes sense to you...then roll with it!
I don't think that was quite right tho, I believe joker is insane because he knows he's in a comic book, joker has broken the 4th wall numerous times and the reason he kills so many people and doesn't care what he does that could " potentially" kill him because he knows if he died the comic writers would bring him back and that the people's lives don't matter. Actually Martian man hunter saw that this is what joker believed and actually pushed that theory of his out of his mind and after he did that joker actually quit crime and became normal again.
it is one of the only things in this world that make sense but dont be consumed by it
+Devin Williams woah *mind blows up*
You're right dude! I've seen lots of vids here in youtube proving that.
I'd want to be the joker my friends say I'm already mental
Me too
SAME
Chelsie Ellis agreed😈
@Aaron Judge Well, No One Can Be The Joker.
N o O n E-
The Joker is extremely smart and manipulative, the red hood flashback in Arkham Origins is a perfect example of that. The way he squirms his way into Harleens psyche. Also Arkham Origins Joker was my favorite video game portrayal of the character. Totally, completely unhinged.
"everyone thinks they are moral"
sorry buddy, not everyone, i dont consider myself to be moral, but im not evil, id say im sowhere in between
this is what i mean
"SOUL! YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SAVE HUMANITY!"
"ok, how?"
"YOU HAVE TO TRAIN HARDCORE FOR 1 YEAR STRAIGHT NONSTOP! AND THEN-"
"hold on, let me stop you there, 1 year straight? no thanks"
"BUT HUMANITY NEEDS YOU!"
"nah"
the cringe is real.
ah yes i remember what i was like when i was 15. good times.
what the fuck was that?
+geasslordzero change your profile picture before you leave that comment
+Kyle Reaume What's wrong with his profile picture?
This is why i subscribed to you. I like to think of you as MatPat Jr.
Only with a more manly voice.
MatPat Senior
This is Mat Pat's opposite, just like Joker is to Bat Man......or Mat Pat's equal, just like Green Arrow is to Bat Man.
LilPrince Killa eh, green arrow was a rippoff.
He sort of became his own charscter over time but..... Origins sre still there
The Aussie Boy Rip off or not, he's still awesome, even though I don't like him.
"I'd rather have a multiple choice past"
~Joker
I wonder what causes the difference between the type of nihilism the joker shows and the type that is more indifferent to suffering rather than having any desire to cause it. By the reasoning of nihilism why should the joker care at all what anyone believes about their morals? What meaning is there in making them believe what he does?
Maybe the joker isn't really a full on nihilist. With the concept of subjective morality, you could say his actions are justifiable and he believes he is doing the "moral" thing by trying to make people understand what he believes is the reality of the world.
Think about these 2 things:
1. Karma - what goes around comes around
2. The golden rule - do on to others, as you want done apon you
There are always consequences for your actions, even if you go very dark....
The extreme of having no values will play into who you are. (in this lifetime or in the next)
To truly succumb to nihilism is to give up living because there was never a point to live in the first place and the experience we call "life" is filled mostly with pain leaving us to scramble for the fewer moments where we are truly happy. Nietzsche himself called nihilism a "sickness" and to submit to it was to be a "passive nihilist" and to recognize the meaninglessness of life yet still continue finding a reason to live is to be an "active nihilist". Essentially, once nihilism is recognized, you either waste away or accept that you need to keep lying to yourself to keep living and be okay if you end up dying before you achieve everything you've wanted to.
The Joker seems to fall in a grey area between the two because he's given up on everything he was ever told about the world and decided that life is worth living if he's able to do everything he's ever instinctually wanted to do: to tear down the ridiculous societies that screwed him over, to take immediate vengeance on the people who wronged him, to have fun without giving a flying fuck of what anyone else thinks.
However, the Joker is still afraid of the idea of dying, of being forgotten, of apathy. This has been shown many times in the comics, TV shows, movies, and games. He is afraid of true nihilism so he clouds his mind from thinking about what any of his actions and efforts mean ultimately. He's eager to point out the absurdness of common morality and society, but he's terrified to see that same ridiculousness in himself.
read the last few pages of The Killing Joke, he kinda answers that
Absence of morality
You can be dark, but still be good - look at Deadpool!
(Reallly, when you go really dark - what defines your limits?)
depends on who you take it out on, how badly you beat them up, and if it prevented something that the person would have done /was doing that it is considered good or bad.
Deadpool's limits are his contracts and any bad guys that need killing. real people don't have limits. once they lose it, they do whatever they think is "fun" for them
Well, there is psychological fear, and then there is fear after something physical happens. When you cross the line of doing really bad things - it becomes your life.
You will carry it with you, and have to correct it. Even the worst things imaginable, can be forgiven. Because, all of us have done really bad things before. (just not in this lifetime)
You can kill people, just like Deadpool. It's just that people aren't good and evil - were all human.
+Jeremy Thelen
if there is no good or evil ,why is there a concept called good and evil?
Jared Leto's joker is awesome, but Heath Ledger's joker can't be beat
Dank Terrorist Letos joker is a garbage joker he’s boring and If a joker is boring then they are horrible
**looks at Juaqine Phoenix**
@@brubio39 yup my favorite actor and joker
What about Jim Gordon? He didn't snap, and he had a very bad day
he didn't snap but he did go in a fedal position and weep his eyes out
+Job sih When he says the jokers right about everyone being one bad day away he was still right but that just wasn't Gordons bad day, it was a really shitty day but clearly not enough to send him over the edge. That isn't saying it's impossible for it to happen to Jim its just saying the Joker failed to create that bad day. There's no way of knowing exactly what combination of shitty things causes someone to snap like that and it's going to be different for everyone.
All the Joker did was give Jim the shittiest day he could, the Joker is no magician he couldn't know exactly what it would take to throw this exact guy over the edge so he just does what he can, the failure isn't his fault the human psyche is just still too unpredictable. The mere fact that Jim knew why the Joker was doing what he did could alone have a massive impact on how he views the experience making him potentially able to take much more abuse.
His point was that everyone even batman has the potential for that bad day, we can't know what it would take but that's what makes the character so interesting, the fact that at any moment that day could come for us in its own unique way. Lets hope we never see that day come for batman, the fans would riot.
InMaTeofDeath You're ignoring the possibility that it just couldn't happen to Gordon. Not everyone has a snapping point. All it takes is one person to not go bat shit crazy to prove the Joker wrong which Gordon did.
Brandonious15987 As I said all that proved is the Joker failed to give that bad day to Gordon that says nothing about if its possible for Gordon to have that day. And I disagree with the idea that not everyone has a snapping point. If you think you can prove that wrong with evidence and facts to show its impossible for some to go over the edge I'll be happy to see it.
Everyone has a breaking point, all brains can only take so much. What do you mean couldnt happen to Gordon? He was already on his way. Collapsed and puked after the tunnel of horrors. Fortunately for him as his mind began to bend Batman arrived to get joker away from him and told him Barbara was alive in hospital. Had batman arrived a few moments later Gordon wouldve been beyond saving. You have absolutely no idea what youre talking about. You are a small thinker who misses details, the big picture and so you draw false conclusions.
"Government employees these people walked around us everyday" you sure about that one I pretty sure government employees pretty much live in high castles.
no, joker knows his in a comic book
The universe tries to make me the Joker everyday but I'm still laughing
:D
Ψ C.S doubt it mate you wouldn’t be a very good joker you don’t even have hair
there are 3 jokers.
the crime killling (like the one you explained)
the prankster gangster
mentally unstable
likely the first death joker is the crime killing
Tbh I kinda understand joker's philosophy and I think deep down we are all just like him we all have bad days but he just had one so bad that it made him give in to his insanity he embraces his psychotic and twisted side unlike us but only cause we haven't had a day that bad...yet batman has had a day just as bad as joker but instead of giving into his insanity he learned to fight it and become a knight for justice but it will only be a matter of time before batman has another one of those really bad days only then will he finally give into the insanity
What about when Jason Todd died and he kept going
+illumiNATI it has to be a really bad day
+Ejstorm So someone who is basically a son to you being beat to death isn't as bad as your parents being shot in front of you? I sort of doubt that because at least the parents' deaths were quickish
+Navyseal4000 that moment nearly did drive him to to the point of insanity as he explained to Jason as to why he didn't kill the joker he wanted to kill him but he fought the urge to do so batman is strong physically and mentally so that's why I'm saying it would have to be the worst day of all time in order for him to finally break
he is to determined he has a goal wich realy is what was taken away from joker all his goals in life were taken away from him in an instant and he had no time to rebuild so he just snaped where as batman he has a goal and he will always keep defending that goal so all of gotham and everything he has ever cared for would have to be prety much nuked and made uninfabitable because he would help rebuild it if it wasnt.man i dont understand why batman isnt a green lantern.or why the scarecrow isnt a yelow one.
This reminds me of the Yen Yag (I don't know how to spell the circle with the white and black halves with the opposite dot inside) good people are capable of evil and bad people are capable of good
you mean Yin and Yang?
+JustAPerson lol
+JustAPerson lmao
Ying Yang?
Its YING YANG
Joker isn't a Psychopath, psychopaths are BORN, however sociopaths aren't born, they are turned into that.....
Idk? I was doing to start something, but that's only going to leave this into a more complicated road......nah
I'd rather be the joker he seems like he has a lot of fun in what he does I'd rather not be some bored bat
do the story you never knew on Harley Quinn
I second that!😁
But she's practically a victim of the Joker's philosophy. You know that one bad day thing.
He's not just a lunatic, but he's a philosopher and a true artist.
Not only a philosopher but also a poet and an artist. Batman constantly works to destroy that.
Markiplier is Joker. Done.
He's there he' here he' over there psyhic friend fredbear
Has anyone watched the stream that just happened
I sure didn't see it.
what happend
what stream .. TALK TO ME I NEED TO KNOW BEFORE I SNAP
Wait what stream?
?????
I don't think the reason joker is so crazy or insane is nihilism I think it is in fact because he knows he's in a comic book. He becomes so ruthless and careless because he knows he can't actually die because the writers will just bring him back, he kills people carefree because he knows their lives don't matter. In a comic awhile ago Martian manhunter saw this theory in jokers head and actually forced that outta his mind and after that joker actually became normal and gave up in crime fighting.
Probably a combination of both
But wouldn't you think that Batman would eventually catch on and quit fighting crime
not canon. And it kinda cheapens his character a little imo
so your saying is that Joker is like Deadpool, like Deadpool knows he is a comic book character.
You watched the theory by imaginary axis too huh
we've all been close to snapping after having a "Bad Day"......i know I sure have.....fuckin people.
im on a thin line of being the joker
We all are. That's the point.
dude im like halfway down the thin ice everyday
+Evkro Gaming I'm already there
Ooh, edgy.
all it really takes is one bad day, thats the point of the story of Batman and Joker, both are the same, representing the most base forces in their true form, one is the spear that destroys all, the other is the shield that protects everything, thats the real reason why Batman takes on Joker, if anybody else were to they would lose
Is this where all emo people comment??
Funny. ,_,
A man who does good things but is not aware of the other option is not a good person, he is naive.
A truly good person is one who knows he is capable of doing terrible things, for personal gain or otherwise, and yet chooses to do good...
that is extremely interesting. I'm trying to study the Joker at the moment, well, studying mindsets and sanity. I'm trying to gather more sources. so I would really appreciate if anyone could tell me about a website that could give me a hand, minus Wikipedia of course! 😀😀😀 thanks!
Instead of websites, try reading some of the stories....there are so many hidden implications in most stories telling a lot about the joker....
I don't have any comics and my parents are reluctant to get some featuring the Joker psychological state of mind, I'm just trying to study the mind of a suppressant man
Oh....in that case, you can follow some youtube channels like comicstorian or comics explained that read the comics and tell you the story! At least that's what I do! Next best thing, bud :)
Thank you so much, mate!👍👍👍👍👍
Oh, yeah I don't know what suppressant means, my phone glitched, I meant super sane
I would be the joker!!
Actually the joker just breaks the 4th wall and kills people because he knows if he wasn't there as the bad guy no one would buy the comics.
Potato Man That's just a theory.
I'd be the joker
Aid -Kit You're making a mistake.
the joker
lukaza12 dah jokeeeeeeerrrr..
lukaza12 dun dun dun!
lukaza12 dah dah dah jokerer
lukaza12 Yes
You're making mistake....
I would honestly be the joker. He seems to have a better understanding of how people work over the batman himself.
the joker 🌚🃏
Joker all day everyday!😆😁😆😁😆😁😆😁😆😁
First of all like your pic and fallout second of second of all he's a monster
Captain deadpool HA HA HA!
he already proved that I'm not the only one.... heheheHAHAHAHA!
8:17 is ironic since Luke Skywalker is portrayed by Mark Hamill. Decades after Star Wars Episode VI: Return of The Jedi, he voices The Joker in Batman: The Animated Series and various other Batman media from that day fourth.
I'm watching this video over and over and over again... im watching this too much... This video is like... drugs to me, im obsessed with the joker and I want to understand him, and you explained more about him. Thanks man/men (cuz its more people working on the channel)
Best joker origin is telltales joker hands down. It may not be your personal favourite joker or the best joker but the origin story is by far the best. It took more than just being pushed into a chemical bath. It took being lied to, having no memories,having no idea who you are, being alone, never having a childhood, your whole life behind bars in an asylum with no recollection of who you are, being abused, getting in with the wrong crowd, it would be traumatising. Waking up in an asylum with bleach white skin and green hair with no memories at all. Having doctors ask you questions and prod and poke you. Being surrounded by nut cases and then getting out of the asylum only to realise the real world is worse than the bubble you lived in your whole life.
"but the joker didn`t sing a song to turn it around" - Treesicle 2016
as an armchair philosopher and self-described active nihilist - THANK YOU for not calling nietzsche a nihilist. he was a brilliant man, no doubt. but he was no nihilist, at least certainly not in his later years.
"What makes The Joker so universally loved...?"
Jessica Rabbit: "He makes me laugh."
"How can you form a connection with someone who's beliefs are so far from your own?"
Me: One bad day!
(Watches video)
Me again: Oh, I got it right.
if the Joker's crazy so is Batman the only difference is the Joker's accepted it
I always saw it that they were both pushed to the edge of insanity, but Batman was strong enough to fight the temptation and rise above it, while Joker embraced the darkness
I have had my "Joker" moments when I felt I was actually becoming him
I find the more you spread out the bad days, the more used to them you get. New York is a good example of that.
it is easier to be the Joker than Batman, you'd have to be a multimillionaire to be Batman but the Joker can be anybody
I think you're forgetting something: those people you mentioned obviously had serious mental issues. We all have bad days, hell sometimes we have a STRING of bad days yet we somehow are able to not slaughter everyone around us in a laughing, blood-crazed fit of rage. The Joker's useage of 'one bad day' is just him excusing his behavior. What separates us from Joker and those people you mentioned is that we understand that hurting others is wrong and we seek out other, non-violent means, to vent out our anger.
This channel is amazing, great work!
Two Face fits my moral and philosophy most. "Leave it to luck to determine not only mine... but other's fate." --Me. just now...
In another universe Joker never became Joker.Instead of falling into that acid,he revealed his face,told Batman everything and becoming Red Hood.
The Batman and The Joker are opposite equals. Sure, Joker is not a billionaire bachelor, but their origin stories are similar. The one difference between the two sociopaths is choice. Batman chose to use his bad day to make sure others don't end messed up like him. The Joker gave up on society. It is easier to quit caring, to be a troll. It is too easy. To better yourself, to push for a better world that allows children the things Bruce was deprived of is a bigger challenge. I personally would go through door number 3. Commissioner Gordon. He had a bad day and was not broken. The Joker tried his best, but Jim was incorruptible. Choice is the only factor that determines our direction in life. We choose to be our future self
Batsy did snap he said that in the killing joke to babara " you haven't been push over the edge of abyss where you don't care anymore and all hope dies." Now what I'm trying to shape is that what if bat man was poor? and was raised not by Alfred....he could bd worse than the joker.
This may sound crazy, yes, but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't. The way I see things is balance; so, you must work together with your darkness if you are wishing to do good in your life. Therefore, while you do good things, you MUST do something dark in order to stay balanced, or else "the scale will tip over." Same meaning of the Joker's saying, It just takes one bad day. Furthermore, if you think about your life as a scale, too much of good or evil would cause that scale to become greatly imbalanced on one side. Again, it takes one bad day... you are constantly fighting to do good, the scale keeps going onto one side to the tipping point, and then BAM! Evil took over because the scale fell over; you lost control. However, visa versa for those who wish to do only evil. This is why I choose balance so my scale will NEVER tip over.
There is one man...
Whom the Joker has never come across...
He died with his family. Three: in certain extreme situations, the law is inadequate. In order to shame its inadequacy, it is necessary to act outside the law. To pursue... natural justice. This is not vengeance. Revenge is not a valid motive, it's an emotional response. No, not vengeance. Punishment.
I have to agree that everyone can reach point where they snap and turn to insanity/ break mentally... but it takes more than just one bad day.
We don't know the history and the context of the real life cases you mentioned as an example.. we don't have a deeper understanding of what was going on with these people that snapped, all the other things going on in their lives, their pasts, their minds that might've led up to this.
Everything you say makes sense to me... I have days where I feel the shadow in me wanting to do a bad thing but then I bring myself back to reality and how do I stop myself from it taking over me because if it only takes one bad day..... then I’m now scared that we’re all going to have a bad day at some time and if I had a choice I’d be batman because I’d love to be rich and glide
Does Batman really think that people are inherently good? He's been shown to be pretty skeptical towards even his own allies. He goes so far as to learn all of the secret identities and weaknesses of the other members of the Justice League, which he plans to use on the off chance any of them go rogue.
this is one of my favorite videos on this channel
Amy? Neurobiologist?
Oh, Sheldon's gonna be flipped.
I am pretty mental strong. I've never got in a fight. I've had thoughts and had out bursts of anger, but it takes a while to build up. I've had one burst of anger which 'crossed the line'.
4 years and i don't know how many times i watched this
The Joker of course. The Joker is mentally an adult and learned the hard way that morals and aesthetics are a prison for children. Be the Joker, in sense of being hardboiled and uncaring. The Batman is in essence a stubborn child that refuses to see truth of the world. Alfred even states that he doesn't believe that Bruce's mind ever matured with his body. Batman is a child with the strength and influence of a man. Why else would you continue to fight an never ending battle "every single night" for 40 years.
This is Persona 4 in a nutshell when he talks of shadows. The only way to beat them is to accept that they are a part of you.
'There is good in all bad, and bad in all good.'
Yin and Yang.
The whole point of The Killing Joke is that the Joker is wrong he may have been corrupted on "one bad day" but he couldn't do the same to Gordon
Blankie of protection - i broke out laughing despite the fact that it`s 03:16 at night :D