The single shot 12ga videos and 21st Century Longhunter series’ are some of the best videos you have made. Very glad to see more of the trusty single shot.
I've always loved black powder for as long as I can remember. Excellent shooting kit you have, no bells and whistles needed, just the minimum gear for your hunt/trek. Hope your hunt went well. Anytime spent out in the woods is a reward in itself!
Thanks Dave. Sam Fadala is a big promoter of using Paper Hornet nest material in muzzleloaders. It helps to not scorch the patch, to get a more consistent barrel pressure. Put just a small wad on the powder charge before you seat the patched ball.
I'm glad I added you on Facebook and stumbled across your post about this video I wasn't getting notified of your videos very often I'll have to keep an eye out more often for them, like I said over on Facebook, the H&R 12 gauge 3" MOD pardner was my first gun I bought I figured it was one gun that I could afford and it could do everything I wanted to do go hunting with my grandpa defend your home whatever you wanted to do yes there's better options but at the time you could pick one up for $80 brand new out the door 90 bucks, for a super nice gun.
i got one in 12 gauge and 20 gauge, used it for deer to rabbits. slugs, buck, bird shot all work good. i use my bp adapter in a cooey.. one best investments i made.
I got to admire your love and patience with old timey things. I myself would just head out with ready-made shells. Don't get me wrong, just because I personally wouldn't do it, doesn't mean I don't like seeing the form and function of it.
Nice hunting bag ty for your knowledge on black powder shooting,I've personally never had the opportunity to shoot one,I like the conversion kit that adapts a shotgun into a muzzleloader.👍☘️
Great video. Black powder is super cool. I'm planning on picking up a new single shot shotgun. I've used my old one for testing black powder shot shells. I like the way they work. Great stuff here as always.
I’m learning so much, it’s like the American musketeer never died just evolved. I wish hi point would make a us made double barrel 2 3/4 inch survival double barrel
Since you're using fluff wadding have you ever tried copper speedloaders? You can take a copper tube the same diameter or a little bigger then that's 72 put a bull cap on one end load your powder fluff then ball and bull plug it again. I always mark one of my bull plugs to let me know which end is the powder. It's a pretty quick speedloader system. And works with shot also. Great video and happy Hunting.Keep your eye on the skyline and keep your powder dry.
Nice man. Still have my Pardner. The "survival furniture" on it, to hold all the adapters inside, etc. Lady made a paracord sling. We can't use 209 here in Idaho for deer, but still fun. I just use an spent shell for it. But do love their adapters.
I saw your videos on using the 12 gauge as a black powder rifle and I have taken what you showed and used it with my own as I don't have the same type shotgun that you have I do have a single shot Ria traditions 12 gauge shotgun that I use the same way it only has smoothbore I do not have the rifle board and I wish I did but I carry pretty much everything that you just described there except that I don't have a round ball mould. I also used an empty 45-70 shell to use as my powder measure although I don't use the whole thing. Anyway that works fantastic I'm very pleased with the way I have mine set up and I'm sure you are also. As I don't have lead shot I use BB's when I want to shoot shot that is until I can come up with some lead shot but I do have the stuff to melt it and make my own round ball once I ever get a mould. It would do people to watch your videos on that because it teaches exactly what you were just talking about. By the way I don't use the short Lanes adapter but I do use a 12 gauge cut off shotgun shell but you still have to catch it before it flies out and you still have to clean it like you would your adapter only a few extra steps that's all. I really do like shooting this little single shot that way. Thank you so much for those videos they really did help me to shoot my little single shot shotgun. PS I also tried it with my grandson's 410 and it works great that way also. Thanks for the video and always remember to stay vigilant! Sorry this was so long.
Have seen you other vids on this set-up. I have the H&R 12 slug smoothbore gun. I bought it in 1979 when I was a junior in highschool. Been to their website, and they're always out of stock! They are great, versatile guns! In fall of 2003, my oldest son, shot his first deer, 10 point, at age of 13. Thanks for sharing, Steve
An interesting thing about that case sodbuster. I used to have one just like it. I went through an airport and a jail metal detector and it did not set them off. I was so used to carrying it that I forgot it was in my pocket. That was years ago and the detectors are probably much more sensitive now.
You could easily make provisions to attach a ramrod to that shotgun. Silver solder a ramrod pipe onto the barrel, then drill a hole lengthwise through the forend. You may have to offset it to the right or left to clear the latch assembly but those forends are pretty beefy so you should be good to go. Then just remove the ramrod when your using cartridges.
Good info.. i may look into that adapter for slinging some slugs. And that's a really nice murse Dave. I really should upgrade from the milsurp gas mask bags I been using.
I had the 4 peace set of Hunsmen 45Bp 58 BP 12Ga loved that 12 And they did a 45-70 to match an loved it. I got 2 SB2 Reserves and 13 Bearls one it 50Cal In line.
Love you content Dave. However you have the info for the SB1 and the SB2 backwards. The SB1 is the non high pressure caliber frame ( 12ga, 20ga, 30-30 etc). The SB2 is the frame that can handle the high pressure calibers (30-06 .243 etc). SB1 frames are ductile(cast) iron, SB2 are investment cast alloy steel. Amazing video otherwise. I just think you got the information mixed up. Please keep up the great work and never stop doing what you do.
The only thing in a shtf ordeal ya can’t make is primers ? Is this where the tc firestorm flintlock shines Dave? Cause every time I watch your skills they help me think of other options .nice video Dave ! 👍🏻
Chewed ball isn't more arrow dynamic it actually creates more drag, that in itself keeps the ball from drifting off in any direction and keeps it going straighter. more accurate, generally.
Sadly we can't use the muzzleloader adapter here in WV or VA. While I love the 21st. century long hunter series, journals from the yurt is my favorite.
I have the adapters for both 12 and 20 gauge. I haven’t used them yet but they look solid and well made. Btw how do you feel about casting magnum shot into round ball? A lot of folks say the antimony makes the ball too hard. Any thoughts?
Ok I am not a muzzleloader but I’m thinking about it. As a kid I had a Navy 36 caliber and it was a blast to shoot. On a rainy day the smoke from shooting was so thick I lost viz with the target. But I digress. My question is can you use a mini ball as your projectile in your H & R? Just curious. Really enjoyed your video. Thank you Sir.
Where could we find a .710 or .720 round ball mold? I’m having a heck of a time finding one and the one from track of the wolf scissor type has been out of stock forever! God bless!
Just came across this video. Thank you. I have the NEF Tracker 2 12ga. What are your thoughts of loading a Sabot slug in it with black powder? Appreciate your content.
Hey there David I've been a big fan for years and I plan on visiting your school some day for a course. I have been tattooing professionally for 13 years and I would jump at the chance to breathe some new life into your ink there chief. No offence intended I just know I could make them SOLID for the rest of your life and would do it free of charge. I would obviously show you pictures of my work first but if this is something you would be interested in I could bring my machines and and everything necessary to do the job perfectly. Sterilant chemicals and single use hermetically sealed supplies included. This would be my gift to you as a fan brother and for the privilege of knowing I tattooed David Canterbury.
I have the adapter for my NEF, but use 3F for my Traditions Hawken .50 cal. Would GOEX 3F work for this application? I got 3 deer tags filled this season and now, it's coyote season so the 12GA NEF Single Shot is oiled & cleaned and I have my vintage camera pouches that I pick up at garage sales & flea markets for 25 cents filled with various shells in my $2 canvas shoulder bag.
I wonder if this adapter would be legal for PA's muzzleloader season? I know they have said an AR with its gas system removed, making it a manually operated single shoot, is still illegal for deer. (Dumb, I know, but that's our Game Commission.)
Thats a good question! Id recommend checking with your local game warden office. I doubt this adapter would be legal in Minnesota because of a statute having to do with muzzleloading revolvers. But because of the way its worded a Judge could interpret it to mean any gun with the POSSIBILITY of being loaded from the breach.
Dave I love these videos about the shotgun. Forgive me for asking but do any of those safety concerns about the frame pertain to the Stevens 301 ( which I ALSO love!) AS FAR AS YOU KNOW (added that as a "cover your ass")?
Dave, any idea where to source the 209 tool kit. I didn't see it available any longer on the SLA site. Also where did you get your bag mold? I know of a few places, but curious about possible additional vendor sources.
Is this type of muzzle loading good for a first timer to use? Or is there another that’s easier to get started on? I like the versatility of using a rifled shotgun to muzzle load I’m just wondering if there’s a difference if you’ve never shot one before.
Sorry, but I'm ignorant. You can use a rifled barrel shotgun for muzzleloading and normal slugs, and then use a smooth bore for shot use? Also, any suggestions on other single shot shotguns? I can't seem to find any H&R around here
Would like to see an accuracy test between the two types of balls from the rifled barrel. I don't think there will be any advantage to the chewed ball from a rifled barrel. The chewed ball concept would be better in a smooth bore. Prove me wrong!
What about a Stevens Model 301? I have the 309 adapter for this shotgun. Can I load a round ball in this gun without over-pressuring the system? Thanks.
Of course different guns like different loads, but With my guns I can't tell any difference in accuracy with chewed or round ball. Distance it may show up, haven't tested that
On the website the muzzleloader insert says for shot only. I as well hunt with slugs or round ball, is it just a lawyer jargon thing where they state this or should I not shoot round ball with the muzzleloader plug.
Get a traditional muzzleloader ,with a nipple ,and you can use red plastic cap gun caps ,super cheap and available at super markets, dollar stores, even some convenience stores .
We were real short on those for awhile but have been seeing them available in bulk as well. Buckhorn finally came back in stock as well but at double the price.
I love these videos on muzzle loading. I got me a 12 gauge single shot Charles Daly after watching some of the vids you made about 10 years ago and tried 2 wYs so far. 1. Reloading a shotshell with crimp trimmed off and 2. Trimmed down to high brass and used like the adapter. I just got the adapter but have not tried it yet. What is the bag you are using?
The single shot 12ga videos and 21st Century Longhunter series’ are some of the best videos you have made. Very glad to see more of the trusty single shot.
The Longhunter series has always beeny favorite series you ever did. Love those older videos, back when I was new at bushcraft and the outdoors.
I enjoy these fire side chats. As always 21 first century long hunter series has always been my favorite.
I've always loved black powder for as long as I can remember. Excellent shooting kit you have, no bells and whistles needed, just the minimum gear for your hunt/trek. Hope your hunt went well. Anytime spent out in the woods is a reward in itself!
reminds me of the journal of the yurt days and longhunter days, great refresher dave thanks
Your so lucky Dave.
I hope you know how lucky you are to be able to do the things you do.
I am so happy for you.
Keep doing your thing dude.
Thanks Dave. Been a huge fan for the last 11-12years. I've learned a lot from you during that time. Now I get the blessing of teaching my boys
Please revisit SB1 vs SB2. The SB2 is the stronger action.
You may be right there brother I have a hellova time with that sometimes
I will be doing a follow up tomorrow after tracking a kill today and re emphasize as well as loading and firing
Thanks Dave. Sam Fadala is a big promoter of using Paper Hornet nest material in muzzleloaders. It helps to not scorch the patch, to get a more consistent barrel pressure. Put just a small wad on the powder charge before you seat the patched ball.
Thank you for another video Mr. Canterbury. I always learn new things from each video. Take care and stay safe.
Very much injoy all of your videos you do a great job explaining why you do something and for what reason. Best of luck hunting
An excellent presentation with some nice new twists as to accessories. Thanks..............
Definitely a great video of tips! The versatility is a great asset!
I'm glad I added you on Facebook and stumbled across your post about this video I wasn't getting notified of your videos very often I'll have to keep an eye out more often for them, like I said over on Facebook, the H&R 12 gauge 3" MOD pardner was my first gun I bought I figured it was one gun that I could afford and it could do everything I wanted to do go hunting with my grandpa defend your home whatever you wanted to do yes there's better options but at the time you could pick one up for $80 brand new out the door 90 bucks, for a super nice gun.
My uncle passed away while back and I received his over n under shotgun .22lr . 12guage . I love it
Now that was educational beyond belief Brother!
i got one in 12 gauge and 20 gauge, used it for deer to rabbits. slugs, buck, bird shot all work good.
i use my bp adapter in a cooey.. one best investments i made.
Thank you for sharing your experience & insights .
I got to admire your love and patience with old timey things. I myself would just head out with ready-made shells. Don't get me wrong, just because I personally wouldn't do it, doesn't mean I don't like seeing the form and function of it.
With the way things are going ,this information ,might come in real handy
Nice vid Dave. I learned alot. Take Care to you and the family.
Nice hunting bag ty for your knowledge on black powder shooting,I've personally never had the opportunity to shoot one,I like the conversion kit that adapts a shotgun into a muzzleloader.👍☘️
Just bought an NEF modified 12 Guage yesterday for $140 will be muzzleloading this year. Finally have the Versatile 12 Single Shot
Excellent Tutorial Dave, Thanks
Great video. Black powder is super cool. I'm planning on picking up a new single shot shotgun. I've used my old one for testing black powder shot shells. I like the way they work. Great stuff here as always.
I’m learning so much, it’s like the American musketeer never died just evolved. I wish hi point would make a us made double barrel 2 3/4 inch survival double barrel
Good discussion. I appreciate you revisiting this topic
Until I saw these videos, I didn't even know you could muzzle load a 12 guage. Very educational.
Since you're using fluff wadding have you ever tried copper speedloaders? You can take a copper tube the same diameter or a little bigger then that's 72 put a bull cap on one end load your powder fluff then ball and bull plug it again. I always mark one of my bull plugs to let me know which end is the powder. It's a pretty quick speedloader system. And works with shot also. Great video and happy Hunting.Keep your eye on the skyline and keep your powder dry.
Nice man. Still have my Pardner. The "survival furniture" on it, to hold all the adapters inside, etc. Lady made a paracord sling. We can't use 209 here in Idaho for deer, but still fun. I just use an spent shell for it. But do love their adapters.
Like your videos Dave...watch them a lot.
Muzzleloading is great fun and have done it many years be it target shooting or the hunt. Good luck over there.
I just ordered the muzzle adapter. Thanks. Good info.
Thanks for sharing your videos and keep them coming please.
I saw your videos on using the 12 gauge as a black powder rifle and I have taken what you showed and used it with my own as I don't have the same type shotgun that you have I do have a single shot Ria traditions 12 gauge shotgun that I use the same way it only has smoothbore I do not have the rifle board and I wish I did but I carry pretty much everything that you just described there except that I don't have a round ball mould. I also used an empty 45-70 shell to use as my powder measure although I don't use the whole thing. Anyway that works fantastic I'm very pleased with the way I have mine set up and I'm sure you are also. As I don't have lead shot I use BB's when I want to shoot shot that is until I can come up with some lead shot but I do have the stuff to melt it and make my own round ball once I ever get a mould. It would do people to watch your videos on that because it teaches exactly what you were just talking about. By the way I don't use the short Lanes adapter but I do use a 12 gauge cut off shotgun shell but you still have to catch it before it flies out and you still have to clean it like you would your adapter only a few extra steps that's all. I really do like shooting this little single shot that way. Thank you so much for those videos they really did help me to shoot my little single shot shotgun. PS I also tried it with my grandson's 410 and it works great that way also. Thanks for the video and always remember to stay vigilant! Sorry this was so long.
Have seen you other vids on this set-up. I have the H&R 12 slug smoothbore gun. I bought it in 1979 when I was a junior in highschool.
Been to their website, and they're always out of stock!
They are great, versatile guns!
In fall of 2003, my oldest son, shot his first deer, 10 point, at age of 13.
Thanks for sharing,
Steve
If you didn't already know, H&R
has been out of business for
some time now
That was very interesting David I use the traditional Muzzle Loader but the 12Ga. sounds like something to check on enjoyed it
Thanks Dave! Did not know this adapter existed…learned something new!,!!
An interesting thing about that case sodbuster. I used to have one just like it. I went through an airport and a jail metal detector and it did not set them off. I was so used to carrying it that I forgot it was in my pocket. That was years ago and the detectors are probably much more sensitive now.
Pretty cool gun and setup.
Great vid dave you and shawn have great vids , btw i love the fire irons i finally used mine 😄
You could easily make provisions to attach a ramrod to that shotgun. Silver solder a ramrod pipe onto the barrel, then drill a hole lengthwise through the forend. You may have to offset it to the right or left to clear the latch assembly but those forends are pretty beefy so you should be good to go. Then just remove the ramrod when your using cartridges.
Thanks Dave, always a pleasure.
Good info.. i may look into that adapter for slinging some slugs. And that's a really nice murse Dave. I really should upgrade from the milsurp gas mask bags I been using.
Great video
Oi Dave, um grande abraço aqui do Brasil. 👍👍
Thank You Dave 👍
I had the 4 peace set of Hunsmen 45Bp 58 BP 12Ga loved that 12 And they did a 45-70 to match an loved it. I got 2 SB2 Reserves and 13 Bearls one it 50Cal In line.
Love the adaptors. Didnt know there was one for muzzle loading.
Beautiful
Love you content Dave. However you have the info for the SB1 and the SB2 backwards. The SB1 is the non high pressure caliber frame ( 12ga, 20ga, 30-30 etc). The SB2 is the frame that can handle the high pressure calibers (30-06 .243 etc). SB1 frames are ductile(cast) iron, SB2 are investment cast alloy steel. Amazing video otherwise. I just think you got the information mixed up. Please keep up the great work and never stop doing what you do.
I’d love to see an accuracy test between the dimpled ball and smooth ball.
The only thing in a shtf ordeal ya can’t make is primers ? Is this where the tc firestorm flintlock shines Dave? Cause every time I watch your skills they help me think of other options .nice video Dave ! 👍🏻
Great video.
Are you bringing back the multi fuel stove back? I can’t find it on the website.
Chewed ball isn't more arrow dynamic it actually creates more drag, that in itself keeps the ball from drifting off in any direction and keeps it going straighter. more accurate, generally.
Thank you. 👍
Sadly we can't use the muzzleloader adapter here in WV or VA.
While I love the 21st. century long hunter series, journals from the yurt is my favorite.
Thanks Dave
I would love for you to revisit your double barrel muzzloader and loads
Having a heck of a time running down a proper bag mold.
I have the adapters for both 12 and 20 gauge. I haven’t used them yet but they look solid and well made. Btw how do you feel about casting magnum shot into round ball? A lot of folks say the antimony makes the ball too hard. Any thoughts?
I got one from you dave🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
Ok I am not a muzzleloader but I’m thinking about it. As a kid I had a Navy 36 caliber and it was a blast to shoot. On a rainy day the smoke from shooting was so thick I lost viz with the target. But I digress. My question is can you use a mini ball as your projectile in your H & R? Just curious. Really enjoyed your video. Thank you Sir.
Great content! What’s that hoodie that you have on?
Haven’t been able to purchase 209A primers anywhere in the continental U.S… 2 years ago I could grab Pyrodex and primers with no issue at all.
Just bought 1000 primers and 5# of powder last week right here in Ohio
Where could we find a .710 or .720 round ball mold? I’m having a heck of a time finding one and the one from track of the wolf scissor type has been out of stock forever! God bless!
Just came across this video. Thank you.
I have the NEF Tracker 2 12ga. What are your thoughts of loading a Sabot slug in it with black powder? Appreciate your content.
Always learn something from you. Didn't know about wasp nest material.
Thanks for sharing. Good luck tracking!
Do you use the 2 or 3f eqivalent pyrodex? And how many grains of powder do you usally use?
Hey there David I've been a big fan for years and I plan on visiting your school some day for a course. I have been tattooing professionally for 13 years and I would jump at the chance to breathe some new life into your ink there chief. No offence intended I just know I could make them SOLID for the rest of your life and would do it free of charge. I would obviously show you pictures of my work first but if this is something you would be interested in I could bring my machines and and everything necessary to do the job perfectly. Sterilant chemicals and single use hermetically sealed supplies included. This would be my gift to you as a fan brother and for the privilege of knowing I tattooed David Canterbury.
Would love you see a video of you loading it and shooting it dave. After you get your kill of course!
Killed a deer today will be doing a follow up tomorrow
Been watching for years. Any impact with the forcing cone when loading RB?
I have the adapter for my NEF, but use 3F for my Traditions Hawken .50 cal. Would GOEX 3F work for this application? I got 3 deer tags filled this season and now, it's coyote season so the 12GA NEF Single Shot is oiled & cleaned and I have my vintage camera pouches that I pick up at garage sales & flea markets for 25 cents filled with various shells in my $2 canvas shoulder bag.
Just a question. Will all this work on a Baikal single shot 12 or 20 gauge shotgun. They are built like tanks and I think it should work.
I wonder if this adapter would be legal for PA's muzzleloader season? I know they have said an AR with its gas system removed, making it a manually operated single shoot, is still illegal for deer. (Dumb, I know, but that's our Game Commission.)
Thats a good question! Id recommend checking with your local game warden office. I doubt this adapter would be legal in Minnesota because of a statute having to do with muzzleloading revolvers. But because of the way its worded a Judge could interpret it to mean any gun with the POSSIBILITY of being loaded from the breach.
@@skylerspear9044, my concern exactly.
Went to the website for the adapter and they have the ramrod but not the tool set.
Dave you still carry the multi fuel stove on your web site ?? I can't find it anywhere. Or the haversacks I can't find them either
Thanks
What about the cva single shotgun and the savage 301 with these adopters?Have you tried a conical bullets being use in a rifled shotgun?
Dave I love these videos about the shotgun.
Forgive me for asking but do any of those safety concerns about the frame pertain to the Stevens 301 ( which I ALSO love!) AS FAR AS YOU KNOW (added that as a "cover your ass")?
Dave, any idea where to source the 209 tool kit. I didn't see it available any longer on the SLA site. Also where did you get your bag mold? I know of a few places, but curious about possible additional vendor sources.
is the multi fuel stove still available i do not see it on the website?
Is this type of muzzle loading good for a first timer to use? Or is there another that’s easier to get started on? I like the versatility of using a rifled shotgun to muzzle load I’m just wondering if there’s a difference if you’ve never shot one before.
Sorry, but I'm ignorant. You can use a rifled barrel shotgun for muzzleloading and normal slugs, and then use a smooth bore for shot use? Also, any suggestions on other single shot shotguns? I can't seem to find any H&R around here
is that ball mold an antique tool or is it a new one? I've wanted to get a round ball mold but haven't been sure what to get.
Track of the Wolf sells those
In the video years ago you was loading steel BB shot over wool wadding. Has the BBs marked the barrel?
Would like to see an accuracy test between the two types of balls from the rifled barrel. I don't think there will be any advantage to the chewed ball from a rifled barrel. The chewed ball concept would be better in a smooth bore.
Prove me wrong!
Now I just got to find some 209 primers lol
Dave how accurate is that st 5o yards ,3inch groups?
👍🏻
What about a Stevens Model 301? I have the 309 adapter for this shotgun. Can I load a round ball in this gun without over-pressuring the system? Thanks.
Of course different guns like different loads, but With my guns I can't tell any difference in accuracy with chewed or round ball. Distance it may show up, haven't tested that
You use the medium or large duluth shell purse?
On the website the muzzleloader insert says for shot only. I as well hunt with slugs or round ball, is it just a lawyer jargon thing where they state this or should I not shoot round ball with the muzzleloader plug.
Great tips. Only thing is I cant find 209 primers anywhere. Should of stocked up alot before alk the BS started..
Get a traditional muzzleloader ,with a nipple ,and you can use red plastic cap gun caps ,super cheap and available at super markets, dollar stores, even some convenience stores .
Sportsman’s Whorehouse has been carrying cheddite 209 primers lately. Might give it a look.
We were real short on those for awhile but have been seeing them available in bulk as well. Buckhorn finally came back in stock as well but at double the price.
Where did you find the 720 bag mold?
I'm curious Dave. What is the choke of your barrel?
This one is a rifled 12 Ga
Can you use a .710 round ball with a screw in modified choke.
What about the choke on the 12ga. Is it cylinder, improved???
This is a rifled 12 ga. But my smooth bores are all modify
I love these videos on muzzle loading. I got me a 12 gauge single shot Charles Daly after watching some of the vids you made about 10 years ago and tried 2 wYs so far. 1. Reloading a shotshell with crimp trimmed off and 2. Trimmed down to high brass and used like the adapter. I just got the adapter but have not tried it yet.
What is the bag you are using?
hey David do they offer that in a 28 gauge ?