Why Everyone is Abandoning GoPro
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2024
- Many people have hopped the new GoPro hero 11 would fix the problems GoPro has faced for many years now. Unfortunately gopro continues, even today, with basic camera functionality. Here we go over the problems GoPro has been facing for many generations including freezing, lagging, and overheating.
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My Hero 5 Session is still running solid. It’s never crashed. But my Hero 10 Black on the other hand… sometimes it freezes and once it corrupted a bunch of data (maybe it was a dodgy sd card?). Anyway, I still love the cameras for vlogging. I’d like to see them work on reliability though.
Nice too see you here Karl, love you vids so much
Hey bro, nice to see you.
for POV helmet can the session has more then enough stability for my usecase
I had the Hero 4 Black edition. Loved it, until I didn't close the underwater housing correctly when I went snorkeling.
I heard those quick beeps above my eyes (had it attached to my mask) and immediately realised what happened and that I killed it.
Bought a different brand action cam with the insurance money, one with better specs (Xioami Yi, I believe), but I never used it for some reason. I guess the fun was just gone.
Wait, it mostly was the lack of a microphone connector that irritated me.
same. my GP5 is still kicking ass after countless times used underwater and airsoft matches. Had some issues with the battery due to wear and tear but none with the unit itself.
All the footage I've ever taken has been on the Hero 9. It's 100% the most glitching electronic device I've ever used. It's taken some great footage, but there hasn't been a single trip where I haven't thought of smashing it to bits. Thanks for the video man.
Dude I’ve lost so much footage on my hero 9
I’ve got all this to come
I’ve still got every bit of footage I’ve ever shot but only had it a few months
It is not a professional camera. That’s what you get
Same here! We film cars and have a full assortment of action cameras (hero 7, 8, 9/ Max) and after dealing with the multitude of issues its simply easier to buy a modern phone and film un-stabilized footage. We keep the gopro's for suction mounted shots to cars but that's it, everything else is 4K on an iPhone.
I feel you on the wanting to smash it
All the GoPro footage I have ever used has decided to date itself the same date and time.. I’m not sure how I can explain how painful that is, it will take me literally years to get this back to some sort of linear order.
The battery is the main culprit. Happened to me on an install. GoPro software is very bad.
The clock resets if you take the battery out for long periods.
Assuming you are past Hero 6 the video files probably contain GPS metadata that includes GPS time stamps.
It should be possible to date the videos based on that metadata
My Hero 10 gives accurate metadata on my video files. I will really test it out after this current 7-week trip, with two cams shooting different footage on about 7 different microSD cards.
Yeah it helps if you set your date and time lol
Video files have metadata in them, and that metadata includes the date it was made in. It's stored via UNIX timestamp, which means that if for some reason the value is set to 0, the date will be 1/1/1970 at 00:00. Sometimes, when drives or files get corrupted, some of this metadata is lost, causing the value to be set to 0. If the date is different, the problem might be a misconfiguration in the camera's time and date, as other people have pointed out.
When I got back into flying as a Private Pilot in 2017 after a 15 year hiatus, I purchased 2 Chinese knock-off GoPro's to mount inside and outside the aircraft to capture my wife and my adventures. I think one was 1080p and the other was $45 and 2.7K. I never lost a second of footage, never had them freeze or turn off due to heat or firmware issues. I did all the stabilization in Premier Pro and that was always good enough. Then I decided to splurge and picked up a GoPro Hero 5 Black and Hero 6 Black to enjoy the 4K footage. Looking back I wish I had just run out into moving-traffic, or poured Ghost pepper sauce in my eyes instead. There was seldom a day where they worked flawlessly and many days when they both froze, or turned off unexpectedly for no reason. I think the President of the company was a huckster and was just making a cash and stock grab until he could sell off this albatross. I fly 11 different DJI Drones commercially along with 3 Autel EVO Pro Drones and they are both rock solid companies and I have never had an issue with over 1,160 operations under my belt. The quality control at GoPro is virtually non-existent.
Some fools will buy the 6 , and because its not working, they buy the 7, which does not work so they buy the 8... You had the sense to realise GP has a mental illness. They use the lack of reliability as a marketing tool.
I had used a $60 SJcam from 2016 for many years now. And it's image quality was actually verry good. Colors were a bit dark and "blueish" though. But after tinkering a bit in post edit, it actually looked a bit like a GoPro footage. In 2021 I've decided to let it retire :p and going to look for a newer cam.
But man, budgetcams these days are really bad... Tried a lot of Akaso and other brands. But the image quality of that SJcam was actually still better on 1080p then on 4k on those newly budgetcams. Eventually I've got myself the Action 3, which felt verry decent, but had this focus issue. Even there the SJcam actually looked sharper. Got myself a Hero11 after, which seemed OK and the recordings looked nice. But that camera was suffering from overheating. So returned it too.
Got myself an Hero12 now (which is actually a Hero11 with customized firmware). And it looks and works good for now. But these prices are insane nowadays. Like $400 for an actioncam.... I really miss the time where $60 budgetcams did a verry decent job. Although SJcam is also not what it was before these days.
👍 I appreciate feedback and opinions from ppl like you with that kind of info and experience. What would you recommend to mount on my motorcycle for vlog? You mentioned non GoPro versions
@@arniet1 DJI Osmo Action 3 is only $200 now, down from $250. The Osmo Action 4 also went down in price from $400 to $300.
My biggest problem with GoPro was how they are kind of putting a price on everything. You have to buy a camera, which isn’t actually a ton of money. But then, you need mounts, which are ridiculously expensive. And, if you want to edit your footage, you have to buy some subscription for their app, otherwise you are left with the most basic controls there are. You cant’t even control the slow motion in a video without it. If you do use the free version of the app, it is filled with ads for their subscription
Just use AdBlock
You can buy 3rd party mounts from places like AliExpress. I'm not sure how they compare in terms of quality, but they are way way cheaper. But the app/editing thing is infuriating.
You can always export the clips and edit them on other apps, which bypasses part of that issue.
Anything that puts a subscription to access your own data should be a hard no from everyone.
The camera isn't expensive but the mount is?? 500 bucks is cheap but 15 bucks is expensive? And no, you don't need any subscription whatsoever for editing your footage unless you're hellbent on using the worst video editor available... You do not need a subscription to access your own data, that's misinformation. Total bullshit. Control the slow motion in a video without a subscription? EASY. Use any video editor other than "Quik" and simply right click a clip and select "Speed/Duration", change the percentage to under 100% and you've got slow motion. Stop spreading bullshit.
I said as soon as GoPro announced they were going public that it would be the end . Once you have to appease the share holders and profits are all that counts, quality and innovation go out the window
Socialist right?
Sounds much like the video game industry as a whole, especially this generation.
Oh, I know the feeling. Shooting clips in a once in a lifetime moment and the thing stops recording all of a sudden or indicated it was recording and nothing was on the card or system memory. Many, many times I was just "enough" of this. I bought an SJ4000 years ago and it still works well. I had a freeze with one of the GoPro water versions. And I don't use it during anything with water. And it freezes once in a while. You can't tell until you review it later. I'm with you on this.
Amazing what Chinese saboteurs can do, huh?
Dude so well put. Having those moments and realizing your GoPro failed to save the video is so infuriating! Feel your pain dude :(
I am a food delivery guy .. I mounted my camera onto my e-bike handlebar and start recording non stop .. no off .. for whole 9 hours [plugged onto a power bank] .. it works the whole time .. every time everyday .. Akaso v50x .. SGD149
The Mini 11 is pretty ingenious -- now you can't tell if your footage is lost until you get back home
Or you simply use phone and check there and then
@@whitecrowuk575 yea, the app that barely connects to the fuckin thing lmao
@@shigee go pro 10, 11 connects fine with iPhone no problems ever. But would be cool if they created a remote with screen for easy control and video review.
I've never experienced connection errors at all. I'd even go so far as to say that I love the app. It can even turn on the gopro which is incredibly useful.
I have had a Hero 9 for 18 months and can honestly say it has not let me down once. Most recently I used it during a 2 week holiday in South Africa and it was superb. Love mine.
Even I have owned a Hero 9 for the last 4months and I don't have any complaints, too!
Any camera will get overheated if one uses it for 30 minutes straight to record a 4k video. He would be nuts who'd expect otherwise.
@@SayakMunshi my hero 6 can record 4k 60fps for 2 whole hours without freezing. A bit hot, but it's still going.
Meanwhile my hero 9 only record 4k 60 for about 40minutes ish before noped out due to overheat.
And that's not a static shot either, but on a moving bike which the wind helped dissipate the heat
For what? What are u recording?
I have had a 5 and a 10 and can’t fault them either. I think TH-camrs just have to hate on something. Suppose whatever it takes to get the views.
I can same the same. I film in 5k30 and so far I barely had any issues. If anyone have any issue, they should immediately reach out to Gopro, they will help you fix it or send you a new one
In defense of gopro the danny black video he made an update later on saying he didn't know there was an update for the camera and after he updated it the overheat improved a lot
I owned GoPro 3,4 and 5. I stopped buying them after that. This year, I bought Hero 11 hoping that six models later it would be better. And it is far beyond what i had expected,. Such an amazing camera, hasn't had a glitch, love the auto upload feature to the cloud when charging, stabilization is breathtaking, video quality is great. No complaints from me, Literally none.
Same, just got one for $100 off at Best Buy. Got a new job in camping / off-roading niche for social media and it's great for taking on the go for expos and conventions.
Wish I could say the same about the 11. Got mine today, and the battery door is so stiff I have to use a tool to get it open or risk tearing a fingernail off. They have really cheapened the construction of these cameras. Even the little mounting legs on the bottom or flimsy and difficult to seat on a mount. Returning it.
you see, it's interesting how you don't have any problems with them and @grittybiddyict3139 and thousands of others do. it just hammers on the point of this video which is reliability... I don't think it's ok that a company that sells products that are fairly expensive to have these problems which ultimately make the camera unusable. you could've been the one that got a faulty camera or need to use it in a more intensive manner or whatever. they should not release any more cameras before they get the issues they're having fixed.
can’t say anything close to that
and recently I was using a subscription replacement - so bad experience as took me 4 weeks to move on to the payment, to my surprise the fee is 123eut not 99eur (VAT missing)
Overheating?
I started using GoPro’s several years ago. I then got the itch to find out what made them tick. My first repair attempt was to a Hero 4 Black. That didn’t go too well but I didn’t give up. After much practice, I was able to diagnose and repair most models up to the Hero 8. I found that the Hero 3 and 3+ black are solid performers. I believe this to be attributed to the processor vs frame rates and their limited resolution. Hero 4’s we’re hit and miss with most issues caused by poorly made image sensors which caused them to freeze. Moving to the Hero 5, they had serious issues with their ribbon cables. They couldn’t handle the heat and would pretty much break in half at the cable folds which caused the rear display would stop working. Although labeled as waterproof, water intrusion was also a big issue. The Hero 6 had similar issues. GoPro changed processors in the 6. The 6’s were basically an under driven 7. To me, the 7 black is their flagship model. It seems GoPro went back to the drawing board and fixed many of the issues that plagued their previous models. They also added hyper smooth which was an incredible break through. These are a bear to disassemble. They used a serious type of glue/sealer to attach the face plates and once disassembled, they were no longer waterproof. The 8: Why GoPro didn’t go with removable lens protectors is beyond me. Bad idea. I do find the Hero 8 to be fairly reliable if the resolution and frame rates are not pushed too hard. The image stabilization also got better. I found the Hero 4 and 7’s to have the best sound quality.
Thanks you provided me with the answers to questions no one else had be able to.👍💥
@@ezekielhadad1407 Most welcome! I hope I provided some good information.
7 is not waterproof? Been looking to get started with some filming and everything points to the 7 being awesome and affordable, I hate spending money on stuff that might just end up in a drawer because I loose interest 😅 solid advice, thanks 🥳🙏
@@isanBen They are waterproof, if you purchase one that has not been repaired or refurbished. Once disassembled, they will no longer have a water tight seal. An option is to use a waterproof dive housing.
I have always heard the 7's were the best, glad that's when I bought mine....would probably go DJI if I were buying today.
Arguably one of the biggest complaints I hear is around the audio adapter. Since they removed the dedicated jack, they have had a horribly bulky and troublesome solution. DJI almost won the battle with their adaptor, but sadly they don’t offer gain control so quite often the audio was completely blown out.
but gopro still seems to be the only cam with stereo audio input and the ability to record uncompressed wav (none, no size compression and no dynamic range compression aka auto-gain-control).
I was shocked at how seemingly little goes into making the hero 9 watertight. I was equally shocked to find out there’s virtually no warranty protection. Used once underwater and a water leak shorted out the rear screen
Warranty is - send it back and we credit you $100 towards your next purchase.
@@CHMichael And that's why here in Europe basically disappeared overnight (or better said overwinter). If you don't respect the EU minimum warranty of 12 months, and just give people a discount on next purchase for a faulty device, people will just stop buying things.
I had the same thing happen to the front screen. However I am in EU so I used warranty and got new one.
There is warranty protection. If it leaks or dies and you were using it properly, it's covered under warranty for a year or more (exact duration depends on where you are / bought it). Also, there's a lot that goes into water-proofing these, your camera leaking was either an outlier or you compromised the seal somehow, the latter being statistically more likely.
@@AlexandruLipan what are you on about? In Norway we have some of the strictest consumer laws in the world, 2 and 5 years right of complaint by law, which supercedes the warranty, and still GoPro is sold everywhere. And believe me, it's not the stores that take the hit when theres a claim, they forward the claim to GoPro. LG didn't like this so they withdrew from the Norwegian mobile phone market long before they gave up. GoPro again seems to be perfectly fine with it.
Hero 8 was a mess and I moved to DJI. Really appreciate you putting this video together to confirm things have not changed. I'll stay away until they fix the freezing/footage losing issues.
Had one gopro hero 8, usbc port stopped letting me connect to the media mod. Got another hero 8 cause i wanted to still use the media mod. That hero 8 is now completely unresponsive, so gopro is sending me a hero 9. Hopefully the 9 is better
@@TheRokyt good luck buddy
@@TheRokyt I have both the eight and the ten for over a year and I havent had any problems.
Whats your experience with DJI?
I worked as a GoPro Technical Support call center agent for several years. I can't agree enough. I was around during the 3rd and 4th generation products and the Hero 5 was the last camera I touched before leaving. The main issue that I saw is that these cameras are advertised as use these anywhere type of cameras, but they did not work in so many situations. In fact I often spoke with pit crews, tv and film producers, and I often had to be like, GoPro is not what you think it is and here's all of these limitations. They only implemented what they thought was important at HQ, the cameras live in their own ecosystem of proprietary software, file types, and didn't even have something as simple as an HDMI out port at the time. They have always had overheating issues and like he said in the video, they really didn't innovate for a long time. I remember when the Hero 4 Black came out with the first 4K, and it was a big deal, but the camera couldn't reliably get good footage because of all of the issues.
Maybe you've replaced some of my faulty GoPros in the past. :)
By the way, the warranty and care service has always been very good to me. Despite the high cost of shipping to Brazil.
@@Cinemaaereo haha, yeah probably. Yeah their warranty service isn't as strict as others I've seen. I know they loosened up a lot when I moved to the in-store display team.
It did not use proprietary file types
When tv and film producers use a 400 dollar cam in production its their own fault😂 also now more producers use system cameras/dlsr for filming. Canon and other brands only label the much more expensive (mib 5000 dolar) extremly big models suitable for that. Also the lenses for shooting with this model costs more than 2000 and you need different angles. And that is cheap compared to film cameras.
I've had every GoPro starting with the Hero2 and once in a while I'd have to take the battery out, but that's probably happened 6 times for me, ever. No lost/corrupted footage. Very happy with the 11 for my mountain biking, the stabilization and video quality is phenomenal.
I've had very similar results.... Lots of Hero cameras and little to no issues. I would say the one time I did have an issue with the H9 freezing I swapped out the memory card for a known good one and the problem instantly went away 🤷♂️
I had Hero 2 and it was freezing, especially when it was cold. So its little bit disappointing that they couldnt solve this 1 decade old issue. But still when looking I will probably go with gopro hero 11. It maybe doesnt have the new innovations but at this moment the footage is superior. I expect that in next years there will be stronger competition.
How long does the battery last
Ok Nick.😂😂😂
The gopro will rebrand itself "GoAmateur."
I’m feeling blessed. Seeing and hearing this, my 9,10,11 has worked flawlessly.
Mine too
You guys are lucky. Upgraded from the 9 to 11 hoping the new processor will help with random freezes and I still had it lock up and lost footage. Selling for a DJI Action 3. Better image quality means nothing when you don't actually bring it home.
@@tjthedogtrainer try doing a factory reset. Format your memory card in a PC (not the quick format) do the long one. It will take hrs. Then DL the update from GP on to the card. Then put it in your camera. It will auto update. Then do a card format in the camera. A lot of ur issues will resolve.
Also be sure your using a sandisk extreme V30. Costco has 400gb for 50$
@@tjthedogtrainer change micro sd card)
I had this issue on sandisk micro sd, with samsung evo plus everything work just fine. It’s well known gopro problem from hero 9, and yes, they they officially sell sandisk products on their website, but this cards don’t suit to cameras 😐
GoPro share price really says it all, once $96 they are going for $0. Maybe the best version was Hero 3 that had the audio sorted out but the glitching, and camera freeze problems seemed to get worse as the generations went on. Add to that the lack of backwards compatibility being designed into the brand and the stupid high prices it's RIP GoPro.
Want it fixed?
My hero 3 is still going strong after tons of use and a little abuse.
@@WhitewaterNB You can’t even abuse that generation.
what's the best alternative
This is such a misleading comment. Gopro’s share price was only that high because it’s IPO. It’s share price is sitting low at $3/share but it’s fluctuated between $3-$8/ share over the last few years. Do your research first lol
I remember how big Gopro was, especially when they released the 4.
Everything from the fact that all tech stores had a large section dedicated to gopro accessories, to Action videos being the next big thing on TH-cam.(Not a day went by before you saw or heard of an epic video, which could only be done with an action camera
Example the Sushi belt video.)
However, with each new model, Gopro began to lose more and more buzz, and in the end just become one of several Recording tools in your backpack.
The good days, half of TH-cam was action sport vids with Sail by Awolnation as the bg music, "GoPro" in the intro, and so much genuine energy. What a contrast to today where it's mostly memes and tiktok-like throwaway content
I remember about 1/3rd of the people at the ski hill with one on their helmets. all taking hours of terrible shaky footage; good shots take some planning not leaving it on all day.
Hero 4 was the best hands down
@@JakesPlace12 still using mine was thinking of upgrading finally.
@@Real_MisterSir dude there is so much good action sports content on TH-cam. No idea where you are looking. Cos of TH-cam monitisation policy many action sports athletes are able to quit competing and make more money just from TH-cam. If you only look in the bad places you'll only find trash
This type of thing has been happening for decades. I remember back in the late 80s and early 90s. Back then, Toshiba made the best laptops in the world. They were so well made. I've actually got a 30 year-old Tosh, running W95 that still works to this day. This particular laptop has been dropped countless times. It has an actual hard drive. What happened with Tosh has also happened to other companies since - it's all about cutting costs from the product. They are constantly cutting costs - they'll redesign the case to cut material and manufacturing costs. They'll cut costs on the PCB - they'll shrink it. They'll replace quality components with cheaper ones that don't last. Every single time their cost-cutting goes too far. It's that simple. Shaving small costs per item can result in hundreds of $MILLIONS of extra profit. It's money men who run these companies and they just want to milk as much as they can from the brand name. You see it happening with cars now - they're all such poor quality now - they're just not designed to last. You see it with chocolate bars - they trim the recipe and hope people don't notice! Any product that is mass produced will go through this. They end up - like Toshiba - taking a top quality product and turning it into a piece of cheap crap and they hope nobody notices. A new company that comes along with a top quality product will end up the same way because of the idiocy that comes from money men running these companies.
Fact is cars have been made to last more and more, data shows cars last longer now than before
@@Saulibarra1111 sure it can last more, but its less repairable, stuff will break and when that happens, the 'new' car will get salvaged.
@@Saulibarra1111 those are not facts lol
@@GariFFUSA they are a simple Google search would tell you data shows cars now can drive way more miles
I wish I could save this comment
One sidenote on the overheating tests: these cameras rely on wind for cooling. For example when skiing or mountain biking, there's a constant air flow to help with the heat dissipation. That doesn't work in the indoor lab tests. Still a shame that reliability is this low, but worth pointing this out.
I agree. I believe not every company can make things perfect including GoPro too.
I suggest getting a dummy battery with a small fan + dimming display
Relying on aircooling with a watertight housing around it? That makes it just a bad design.
@@wouterke9871 There's still heat dissipation through the housing, which is more effective with wind than in still air.
Yes. Why expect consumer electronics to work in a living room?
A lot of crashes and freezing I found with mine were due to a slow memory card. Faster card and removed most issues.
I've owned the 9 since it was new and it never froze or crashed once!
@@user-f5xt2op9thaha, you better go buy a lottery ticket then!! My 9 was JUNK from the day I took it out of the box! Did nothing but crash and freeze, black screen, lag, terrible touch screen, and much much more! I even bought the extreme ssd card right from GoPro with my camera to make sure I didn’t get a knock off SD card fake from Amazon or what have you because I know how picky GoPros can be with a card they don’t like.. brand new battery’s, brand new camera, brand new authentic extreme sandisk sd card.. and it was nothing but JUNK! I ended up whipping my hero 9 black against a tree smashing it to bits with in a month of use and lost hours of content for my TH-cam channel. I vowed to never buy another GoPro as long as I lived and I came from a hero 7 black which was terrible too but was 10x better than the 9 in every way
I was thinking that. What about lowering the video resolution? Does that help and how low can I go on a Go Pro?
@@PLANETWATERMELON I thought that's the Main Reason why you upgrade to the latest (To get HIGHER Resolution) and still have a functioning camera? I don't know, maybe it's just ME but, if I spend good money on manufacturers promises... I EXPECT them promises to WORK, don't care if it costs more, just deliver them promises - just a thought.
I have the Hero 7. I had a few occasional freezing issues, but about 2 weeks ago it got REALLY bad. I found out that the issue that causes the freezing is if you're buying 3rd party batteries. While I didn't go out and buy the official GoPro battery, I bought new 3rd party ones and the issue completely went away. I think I recorded about 120GB of footage in 2.7k yesterday and not one clip froze on me.
Had this happen with my 7 Black. Endless freezing, refusing to turn on, random overheating even when it was off, etc. I thought the camera itself was busted. Buying official batteries is definitely the move instead of getting the supposedly highly rated 3-pack of knockoffs from amazon.
@@bionicles I have these problems with the battery mine came with. Freezes regularly on me. I remove my battery almost every use.
@@bionicles This is good info. I bought the "highly rated" Amazon batteries for my 8 Black and ended up losing half my track day footage due to freezing. Another thing that I found is that the batteries (even the stock one) really don't last. Battery life on the Hero 3 seemed better. I also have issues with the file naming/storage format. But I usually just chalk that up to me being a luddite when it comes to this sort of thing.
@@Wrencher_86 To be honest I sometimes regret giving away my 3+ Silver. Super simple camera without all of the bells and whistles (and problems). It just… worked. I’m still getting used to the pros and cons of the newer model
I bought a 10 about 6 months ago. At first it wouldn't charge while in use so the battery went dead and it shut off. After contacting support and going through a manual firmware upgrade process that issue resolved itself and it's been working great. I've been using it inside a race car all summer. To make sure it didn't overheat I ran it off a separate battery and left the regular battery out of the camera, with the battery door off. I know this solution won't work for a lot of people but if you want to use it in a hot dry environment you could try what I did. I've recorded over an hour straight of 4K 60, filled up a 128 GB SD card. Week after week I've been doing this and it's been working. Last week it was cool so I left the battery in the camera but still plugged it into the extra battery to make sure it would run long enough to complete the race. No problems.
Knock wood
I do the same thing with the ulanzi power handles and leave the battery out. The ulanzi has standard camera threads on the bottom and so i can attach a disc magnet on it to mount on a car and power a couple of cameras. Held up very well going 60-70mph in wind gusts up to 50mph out in AZ last year. Dont know if it would hold up at racing speeds though.
Just got one for Christmas and it's great, I really enjoy taking it on snowboarding trips. Highly recommend the waterproof enclosure to protect it and keep it nice and safe. the battery lasts most of the day and it's worth having an extra SD card too.
@@TheRealGoat11 i got the 11, it's alright, I often wish I had bought the Insta 360 so I could make some of those cool snowboarding vids
I abandoned GoPro for DJI when the Osmo Action was released. I was sick of GoPro not working and losing footage. The DJI (I have two) are still going strong 4 years later. I kept my Hero 5 Session though as an additional / spare camera and ironically enough it's been far more reliable than all the other larger GoPros I've had.
Chinese company is better than American companies in electronics. Who the hell remembers Zenith TV? ROFL
Dji is a Chinese company on a whole other level though
Bro - you nailed every point - dead on! Perfect example of how a product goes from hero to zero!
Not really, I feel like he didn't really go into detail about what's bad about the product, just said the same thing over and over again. The newest generations have worse and worse reliability due to a outdated processer and it over heats. He could have said so much more in 6 minutes but didn't
outsourcing components to china, not even once
@@MaybeVoidX he did though. Random failures, laggy, overheating, lack of innovations, new version regression, what the competitions are doing, that's a fair amount for 6 minutes
I was looking into buying a hero 11 but knowing that information I will be purchasing the DJI action 3 instead I just don’t want to support a company that doesn’t innovate and upgrade their internals to help with reliability
@@MaybeVoidX he did say that...
My 10 had very few issues and so far my 11 has been perfect. I have never had one overheat, but I do live in the UK where its usually damp and cold lol. The form factor makes it my goto machine for the majority of my filming. For years I disregarded them and used Sjcam's, my last being the Sj8 pro which I loved the interface but their price now sucks whereas they used to be better value.
Still loving the GoPro 7 for use on my drones. Had 4 (second hand) so far. Very robust, surviving multiple crashes.
the hero 7 for me was terrible
It was crashing once every week
Had the 10 from lunch stable so will never update firmware
Only weirdos fly new !!! I've been flying since pre 5" and never put anything more than a Mobius up there.. push it!!
@@anton-eg1hh Same here. I bought a new 7 and it was nothing but problems. It froze so many times on me and eventually froze off and no matter what trick I tried it would never come back on. I bought a used Hero 4 and it works perfectly every time.
Yeah, I don't record anything above 2.7k on my hero 7, because there isn't a need to, and it is perfectly fine. It runs ice cold 🥶, unless I am recording boring stuff. My gopro runs great in the action!🤣🤘
@@coopersharp2921 A product is flawed if it cannot do what it is designed to do.
GoPro is flawed✨
how is my gopro hero 9 never over heat, i have accidently had it one for 2 days straight and no over heating issues, yes it got hot but never over heated
Thank you for speaking about the overheating issue! As someone who has bought numerous Go Pro cameras in the past, when used in Florida where I live I've found the overheating issue to be an EXTREMELY frustrating one often requiring multiple/cumbersome steps to keep them working (aiming portable fans at them, dipping them in water, wearing a hat over them to provide shade, etc) impacting both their true portability/practical usage.
Use external power source if you need to run it for a long time
They can't hack cold, either...
Yeah I got my gopro for diving and it barely works because it constantly overheats, WHILE IN FREEZING WATER!?!
I dont know man. I have an original Hero + from 9 years ago. I lived in orlando and used it all the time. I even used it as a dash cam of sorts on my Bike which i crashed at 40MPH and it still works fine. Took it snowboarding on Crystal Mountain where a mount broke when i wiped out and it was buried for 2 hrs till i found it. I currently live in Puerto Rico and use it snorkeling and on my metal detecting trips and never an issue. I have contemplated buying a newer model or a different brand but this thing still works perfectly. It even sat in storage for almost 3 years when i found it again when I moved to PR. Plugged it in and still has good battery life and connects to the mobile app with no issues.
Die- tell us you work for GoPro some more lmao…First of all your blatant lie on apps always working w GoPro cams is fn HILARIOUS!!!!
The advantage to a similar form factor is that most of the mounts & accessories are cross compatible. I've had issues with getting the touch screen to work with any consistency.
That's great forethought...they made the touch screen problems compatible with every version.
I've been using a GoPro Hero 10 Black for the past 1.5 years and always shoot in 4K60. I did run into the sudden freeze of the camera and, like you had said, had to take the battery out and all was okay. Another issue with this same GoPro is prior to their most recent firmware update the touch controls were almost completely inoperable. One of your clips had illustrated the issue, though you didn't specifically mention it. Since the latest firmware update, I've had little to no problem with the camera.
Seems like after 9 they fell down a cliff. Did they get a big investment after and move manufacturing? That's what is feels like to me.
I still have and love my Hero 8! For 3 years straight in extreme hot weather conditions, underwater with no cage, it never ever let me down. It froze one time in extreme cold but who cares. It's a beast! I now pair it with a Canon M200 with 2 Canon lenses and I couldn't ask for more for what I do.
I have 3 of them and haven't found a reliable use for them yet.
You must be one of the lucky ones.
Poloroid cube was magnetic 10 years ago. Extremely underrated little camera, and such a shame it was abandoned.
But what do you use the magnet for? From the videos it doesn't appear to be strong enough to trust it in "action cam" scenarios.
I have the GoPro 10 and have had no overheating problems whatsoever. Using as a dashcam , sometimes in full sun. (Australian sun), with NO battery in but plugged into the 12 volt supply. Longest continuous use was 12 hours. Love it. Was aware of the overheating debate when I bought it but mitigated the risk and it’s brilliant. Drive everywhere with it. So yes I would recommend it as long as you were aware of how you should use it.
I've always wanted a GoPro but never had a reason to buy one. Last year I decided to start travelling and bought the Hero 10 to record my moments and honestly it was one of the best investments I've ever made. It's durable and I found it very reliable. Never frozen, stopped working or anything that people use to say. Maybe it's because I don't shoot 4k, only full hd, but still... It works great for me.
You could've just bought generic action cam for under $100 to do low qual shooting and save $300+.....
I bought Hero 9 and after a month of owning it, I returned it to Costco and got myself a Insta360 One R Twin Edition (360 and 4K lenses). Best of both worlds. I use the 360 lens when traveling as well and 4k with waterproof case when diving. Honestly the best decision I’ve ever made. Editing the 360 video and amazing and also fun
@@kizzenger Does it handle stabilization well? just curious how it works. also, any chance for add on lenses like telephoto? or shots of face against a sunrise, sunset?
@@johnbell1810 Stabilization is fantastic especially if you’re using the 360 lens. They have their own stabilization tech (Flowstate) and i’ve never had issues with it. Their app is GREAT for editing your clips on the go. Their lenses are only 360, 4K, and 1-inch Leica lens. Unfortunately no add-on screw lens like GoPro.
I love my Insta360 One R, it’s basically having 2 cameras in 1!
100% for me as well.
Other than overheating, let's also mention one of the most frustrating issues, which is when the camera simply refuses to work (basically shuts down) below 0C. Now there are the new, enduro type batteries more or less fixing this problem, but if you are using a standard battery good luck shooting any winter activities like skiing, snowboarding etc... When I first met this issue up on a mountain trying to capture my skiing I just couldn't believe that an action camera, which often advertises itself as THE camera to be used also for winter activities will simply shut down when it's cold outside. Who would have thought that in winter up on a mountain it's usually below freezing...
With the Hero 7 I also had an issue, one day the camera simply did not charge or turn on anymore, had to buy a new one...
Other than these I'm still going with GoPro, mainly because I have now everything in their ecosystem, mounts etc... My 8, 9 and Max works now 99% of the time, so I definitely did not abandon it, but would be lying if I did not mention the obvious faults and bugs of GoPro cameras.
There's faster and cooler electronics these days. They just dug a hole for themselves when they made the software too spaghetti and aren't able to port it to newer hardware.
just got the 12 for skiing videos /w enduro batteries. hope i dont run into these issues.
How was it? I'm considering to buy the 12 one for skiing and also vlogging. It would be nice if you reply. Thanks! @@gerakore8948
I have a GoPro 5, two 8s, Max, 10 and now 11. Never had a single issue... I use my GoPros to make cinematic videos, so i use the highest resolutions. Never had them shutdown from overheating... They are just not meant for shooting long videos and to use indoors. I do agree though that they stayed behind on the innovation front, the competition is getting fierce and GoPro seems to be asleep. I was waiting more from the 11...
i've had the 11 for a couple of weeks now. This week I mounted it on a tripod and let it run for an hour to capture hurricane Nicole as it went through our neighborhood and it worked perfectly. Time lapse worked awesome as well. Mine's a keeper.
I could of done that on a cellphone...an action camera is made for sports or stunts not fucking hurricanes. Actually get off your ass with it and try something productive and you'll have problems I promise
@@w.e.s. Wow - what an ass. FO dude.
I’ve used Insta360 OneR for that as well and it worked perfectly. Any ActionCam in the past 8 years should be able to pull that off.
I use GoPro since the GoPro Hero 3, tried other Action-Cams and GoPro is still THE BEST in terms of Imagequality. Facts! And for me as an Videoproducer and FPV pilot this is the only thing that counts.
...and i really had no problem with overheating or data losses. the Hero9 crashed after i crashed my FPV drone hardly but, after a restard the video file was there.
If you use a GoPro in a way its made for, you won't get struggels. If you put a GoPro with 5,3K 60 on a desk and say: "Its garbage, cause it overheats after 30 minutes" its not a fair competition.
then you also could say "I bought a new Sony Cinema cam, but its garbage cause its waaaaay to clunky and broke after the first crash with my bike." everyone would reply: "buy another cam if you want to make this type of recordings."
Maybe GoPro is not really innovative in new Camera Design, yes BUT they don't have to. If GoPro would release let's say a new fancy magnetic mount they will piss off all GoPro owners that has collected mounts and accessory's since the first days. I love the fact, that i bought ND Filters and the Mediamod for my Hero 9 and can use the same gear even on the new Hero11. Its Awesome!
GoPro innovates with things the 8:7 Sensor. So DJI made a mounting-system wich make it easy to swap from horizontal to vertical but with GoPro you don't have to because you can shoot horizontal and vertical at the same time. Thats quite innovative if you ask me.
none of that matters when you don't get the shot you missed.
@@rogueFactor true, but I think it isn’t a so big issue. At least for me and people in my bubble. No freezing or overheating. On TH-cam I can find videos where GoPros overheat but DJI (action3) does too. So I really don’t know. Maybe we are blessed :D
I will stick with GoPro and I swear you, I never got into struggle with GoPro.
Here is another fun fact you will never see a video from a die hard GoPro user saying don't buy DJI its not worth it, butt damm all the DJI fan boys and girls love to say Don't buy GoPro.
@@Tallguysrc I've been to goproville. I lived there for 5 years. It sucked. The interface is lame, STILL can't preview live recordings with the app, can't use the front screen, still doesn't record long enough. Everywhere that they have not improved in 9 years, where DJI has. GoPro has overworked their processor for at least 3 version. Spending money on cloud & subscription R&D services instead of performance and quality assurance, DJI has it's flaws. There's a focus issue with the Osmo Action 3, and it may not be a firmware issue. It's how the companies handle those types of problems that sets them apart.
@@Tallguysrc there's plenty of osmo action camera bashing if you go looking for it. I'm not looking for it and I won't have any of that kind of content in my videos personally. But in a conversation in a comment section, I feel it's okay to share my opinion and my experiences
So true, I'm with gopro since gopro 7 and tested all them until 11. Stability of the software is indeed bad, but you don't have to take out the battery - click and hold both power and mode buttons for a while.
Mini is a good step for overheating - at least there is a metal part that could take out the heat (but not that much), unfortunately I see the gopro mini has a big venerability - the door is so thin it bend easily, especially when the camera is warm or when it's warm outside. After that the camera is not that well water-resistant. Solution - put it in the diving case, but then overheating...
I think for mini 12 they should make the camera with internal memory and just seal it or they should invent metal diving case.
after 4
weeks I finally was able to pay the replacement fee - 123 eur as it was presented without the VAT
Received the gopros - they messed up aven more - I got wrong gopro :/
And still no resolution despite promises to email me back...
I see many people commenting saying they've never had any issues with their gopros. I've had lots of problems with my only gopro, and when i researched how to fix the problems, there are thousands of "how to fix" videos...meaning...these problems are common. I completely understand where this video is coming from, and I'm definitely switching to DJI when I get the chance.
This is also the case for cameras that nobody uses. It's like programming, there are thousands of how to guides for Python and very few for COBOL because everyone uses Python for everything.
That's because of Gopro's market share.
If 4% of products have problems, that's going to be a much larger number if you sell 500,000 units, vs 25,000.
It you believe this video's claim that none of the other players have problems, then you're kidding yourself.
By nature, there are fewer of them, but only because of fewer units sold.
So the Chinese saboteurs achieved their goal: got you to switch to the Chinese government product.
Not sure what your application would be, but I would highly recommend Insta360 One RS (One R if you want an affordable older model). Editing 360 footage is sooo fun, and if you have the 4K lens then just pop it. Best decision I’ve made is buying Insta360 One R
I worked there during Hero 4/5 times and it used to be a great company full of really nice people. I'm not sure, what happened, but everything was great back then.
After they went public, the company has kinda sucked.
I've had freezing and overheating issues with several generations of GoPro - and just using them in ambient temperature settings, nothing insanely hot or cold. This has been allowed to happen at GoPro because there really up until this point been any true competitors especially when it comes to image quality, but that seems to now be changing. There's just no excuse for cameras costing this much to not have basic design flaws like overheating fixed by now.
My gopro hero 2 still works flawlessly.
The worst time my GoPro froze was when I took a three day long time lapse. Let it sit for a couple of hours, and it finally snapped out of it. No footage was lost. I was pretty surprised.
Since it froze in the middle of the 3-day time lapse, are you missing footage during that freeze?
@@Shadow91507 it didn’t freeze in the middle it froze once I stopped the time lapse. All the footage was there just had to wait forever.
@@curtisclowar3715 glad you didn't lose any footage! Haha
Sounds like it was just trying to process the video. That's awesome that you got the footage
I have had a Hero9 since about December 2020. I have taken It out into blistering heat and extreme cold multiple times and I have never once had It fail me. No freezing, no overheating, no lost or corrupt videos or photos. My only real gripe about It Is that the auto upload times are atrocious no matter what I do. Apart from that, It's an amazing and incredibly well-built camera and I'm glad I purchased one.
The insta360 Go2 is definitely making a lot of progress in the competitive shooting community. Gopro audio couldn't handle gun shots. Every other camera from phone cameras to budget action cams have no issue with gun shots, just gopro
This has to be the single most American problem with action cameras :) Bad gun shot sound...
@@FlyingCsongor😂😂😂😂
I believe this one is better
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Your gonna have lemons in the batch. I've had my Hero 11 and have created videos I could never have achieved. Really who is recording 29 minutes in a shot. Dji has been horrible for the osmo and I would't even want to try their action camera. This video seems really spun to hate Gopro. Doesn't seem neutral.
They were made for pov surfing capture, and for that purpose, they have worked for me hassle free for every single model from heroSD to hero9. Only issue is housing leaks and snaps from taking a beating on reefs.
The 1st gopro was a film still camera created specifically for wearing on the wrist to shoot in the water while surfing.
I've been pretty happy with the Hero 10. In fact thinking about getting another one. It has not overheated or failed (so far) even when running constantly while fishing in hot weather.
My first GoPro was the Hero3+ which still works to this day. Have upgraded a few times over the years and have only ever had one freeze on me once. My biggest bugbear with the company is the editing software (or lack of, desktop-wise) That, and not being able to view anything once you start recording.
same as fuck i had hero 3+ silver for almost 10 years... just bought a hero 11 black though let's see how it goes...
The 3+ was the replacement for the 3 that overheated constantly. They couldn't fix the 3 through software updates so they released the 3+.
@@autismspeakz if you had a chance to test it I would love to have your opinion on it because I just bought one and I m waiting for it to be delivered. I personaly intend to use it for vlogging, scuba diving, skiing etc...
@@theCameraman0911 got it, battery lasts like 3 hours if u recording 4k/5.3k
It heats up but not overheating. It's fine so far
Can you just use an sd card then plug it into a laptop & edit & render it on Da Vinci Resolve? Will Resolve have the right format? I would probably just use the youtube format that Resolve has.
I'm thinking about getting one for the first time.
I had a couple of GoPros and made the switch to Insta360 last year. GoPro is becoming like the Skype of teleconferencing...a household name that helped popularized the concept only to be surpassed by its competitors like Zoom.
Skype morphed into Teams, they did get overtaken by Zoom but it's still 2nd strongest, and way ahead of all the other competition.
I've had no problems with my Hero 8 black. I mostly use it to take driving videos (later to be come stationary bike videos) with the suction cup mount on the hood of my car. The camera has never overheated or shut down and I keep it running with a replacement door, power bank and usb C cable (so recording sessions can be significantly longer than the charge of a single battery). I find the image stabilization (using 4K linear) to be superb.
Sameee
it is cause you are using action camera as and action camera! such wow! but people are doing overheating tests in a closed room with no air flow.
I actively avoided buying a gopro when I wanted an action camera earlier this year, specifically because of the issues you raised here. Some friends suggesting buying a used gopro, but only ones I could see had few issues seemed to be as old as the Hero2. I eventually went for Insta360 with the 1" mod, which was perfect for my use.
I've never experienced issues with overheating, and the freezing issue is only something I've encountered when also using the Volta battery grip. Other cameras (both action and otherwise) also occasionally freeze, so it's not a problem that's unique to GoPro. Regarding innovation, there are physical limitations on what they can do, and while Insta360 and DJI have done some cool stuff, the GoPro is still overall the best action camera IMO. Their evolutionary upgrades have added real advantages year after year.
what I basically learned by owning about 6 different generations of gopros is that when they first launch their firmware is very glitchy for a few months, so after the hero 10 i decided not to purchase any model at launch. the 10 was corrupting my videos on a fast microsd card, but now they fixed that. other than that they're great for adventure videos, outdoor sports, scubadiving etc. not so great for indoor static videos over long periods since such a small camera needs proper airflow to stay cool. I hope they fix some of the issues with the hero 12 black. they could also add at least a 2x or 3x optical zoom that can be controlled through dedicated buttons, not just the screen.
Thanks for the shared experience, can I know what is most suitable decide for static vlogging? Like something below 500 dollars range and support external mic.
@@Plannedroutine-gn7lt I use a Hero 9 with the media mod and have it mounted to an Arca Swiss plate on a GoPro mount and have a wireless mic (lav) for audio and set up on a tripod with internal battery.
As long as you don't shoot really long static shots and not insist on only using 4-5.3K resolution and keep your firmware up to date, it's been fine for indoor use (use external lights on stands) and do the same outdoors when it's warm out.
Run the camera no more than 5 minutes or so at each setup to keep heat build up to a minimum, the GoPro can be reliable if you take those precautions.
I for one, am appreciative they don't change design so much. You forget about accessories... I'd hate to have to replace everything everytime. Yes the damn thing is glitchy sometimes, my H8B never had a working GPS. Upgrading every 3 generations here, compared to other brands, they don't lose their value as much also
got a hero 10. just remember buy the fastest micro sd cards and if shooting for long periods, shoot in 30fps 2.7k. the formfactor is just awesome and mounting system works well!
That's why I bought Action 4 and happy with it
All my mtb video the last couple years is shot with the same gopro hero 8 - maybe I just got lucky but 0 issues with it and I often go through all 3 batteries that I have while out on any given ride. It has actually worked so great that I have 0 reason to upgrade.
Lots of good info in here. Some thoughts - other companies have to innovate to compete with GoPro’s status and market share. While it’s not favorable for GoPro to coast for a bit, they have the power to do just that. The Hero 11 Black Mini is significantly cheaper than the Hero 11 Black to capture more of the lower end of the market, and removing the screen is part of what enables them to do so. Lastly, I would recommend buying items like this directly from the manufacturer. Will let you know if I have issues with my first-ever GoPro soon!
Yeah. I am honestly surprised at how little innovation has been happening in the industry - to the point where GoPro (and most of their competitors) basically gave up huge market segments.
Rather than add a wired remote control interface to better integrate with multicopter platforms, they basically forced DJI, Yuneec, and everyone else in that industry to spin up their own camera development teams to meet their requirements. By then, too late - that market is almost completely shut out from them.
To this day, no one making action cameras is offering a decent wired remote control interface, and GoPro is going to the point of actively DRMing their interfaces so innovative accessory manufacturers are locked out.
@@Entropy512 What I'd love to see them innovate on, is size. Don't care much for 4k, 2.7k and below is just fine for general media content and not full professional scale production.
And small means light, and small+light means durable. Small+light+durable means you can be much more creative with your mounting methods and places - which is what initially got GoPro their fame. People would slap them everywhere because they could endure it, at a time where no competitor could do that with the same degree of video quality.
So if I was to get back into the market (after being out for a decade since I bought my old Hero3 Black), this is what I would look for:
- 2.7k footage at 60fps
- Size at least 2/3 of current, even less if possible
- Weight 2/3 of current
- Price 2/3 of current
No screens, no fancy stuff. Image stabilization would be great, if possible. Other than that, nothing. Rather have a simple but functioning package, than an overcomplicated one that is prone to error and costs way too much. It's a camera after all, not a laptop.
Apple did the same with MacBooks.
Who are "they"
GoPro are the Nokia of our time... resting on their laurels... we all know how that worked out for Nokia... 😕
I had my GoPro Max recording outside of the airplane wing while I was on my first flight as a private pilot with a couple friends. On the way back I had to do a challenging crosswind landing and it turned out to be a beautiful one... I think. My footage was frozen halfway through the flight and I couldn't see what it looked like from the outside.
I never used this camera again, and now after seeing this video I'll be selling it and start looking for another brand.
The max is trash, get a 9 or above. I’ve never lost footage, camera stays nice and cool at 130mph.
@@BINX-RR i kinda like a 360 camera for airplane footage
The Insta360 is a very good camera, if it wasn't so tall I would use it on my motorcycle helmet
@@wills5482 360 isn’t great for helmet wear, I’d put it on the front or back of your bike personally. I’ve seen some excellent riding footage from people doing it that way.
Yeah was carting with some friends. But normal cars. Real race carts. Rented out the whole track. It was awsome! Someone crashed, noone saw it and he lost memory. He came off track and must have flipped 270°. But we dont know. The MAX froze and we have no footage of it.
And the Hero8 he had on his helmet, guess what. It also froze and lost all footage!
Good information. The one thing that no one ever seems to focus on is its inability to handle low-light conditions. Even when there is ambient light, the image just sucks.
I’m sticking with GoPro. I have a Hero5, Hero9 and two Hero11’s…all of which I still use (even the 5!). The Quik software wasn’t the greatest years ago but has come a long way and is extremely easy to use. I love GoPro and have no desire to even consider trying Insta360 or DJI Action.
I bought one when they first came out. It was inexpensive, and if I remember right it came with a water housing and all the mounting hardware. I had a mount riveted to my chest protector and used it a lot to record mountain biking, and I used it for surfing, and tennis. One thing I liked about it was IT WAS SIMPLE. One button. After a few years the only problem I had was the button got gummed up somehow, and that was it, it stopped working.
I've been thinking about getting another, but they've gotten pricey, and they looked over-complicated. I didn't know they were having problems till I saw this.
Anyone out there that can recommend what's the best camera to get these days?
I also would like to know.
Perhaps DJI, according to this.
im in the market for something like this, is there any that dont fisheye the footage and give the most accurate representation of reality?
@@BCzepa GoPro's have linear to reduce or eliminate the fisheye issues, but I am not certain if the Insta or the Action cams and others have that feature.
The only potential hitch is in linear mode, you won't get as wide a POV as you might otherwise.
LIKE I SAID, I WANT A NORMAL LENSE changing it in software will not do, i dont care about FOV. the footage has to be good quality. id make my own lenses but it seems way too fiddley and time consuming @@johnhpalmer6098
Have the 3, 4 ,7 ,9 and 11. I take very good care of all of them and have never had one overheat. I capture all of my content with them. Not sure what everyone else is doing to have all the problems but I have had none.
Funny because most the comments here are people defending GoPro 🤣 I've personally never had any real issues and I own many GoPros
Just wait.haha
@@robbikeventureph.8908 I have several hours of recording on each cam.... What am I waiting for 🤔
@@MotoFamMayhem i also have gopro but Dji dont annoyed me
@@robbikeventureph.8908 good to hear.... Seems as though GoPro works for some but not others that's for sure 🤷♂️
Literally NO ONE is abandoning GoPro.. Literally NO ONE is abandoning GoPro..
People are leaving for DJI
Despite the issues, I love my Hero9. Stability has been improving a lot and it's halfway touchable - and once you know what to set it up to... you just press the record button anyway. But the image quality, stabilization and all around durability is just unmatched in the market. You showed Instas cams as comparison. While they might hardly crash, their image quality is not even close to what gopros deliver, the stabilization of my 360 for example is just off (probably a falsely synced gyro) they are super prone to jello and the post processing with their studio software outright sucks. So I'm switchng entirely to GoPros and Naked GoPros now.
Couldn't agree more. I've never owned a product that I've had to reset (by pulling the battery out) as often as a gopro
Well you can’t comment if you have never used a go pro. I have and have never had any of these issues
Lugo, try and read again.
@@MassimoAngotzi read that wrong my bad. Just phrased weird I guess to me
I agree with everything you said, I bought one GoPro and never again. Never! I would however point out that I have just returned my Osmo Action 3 as they have a pretty bad focus issue, also the Action 2 had a major overheating issue. The only company I haven’t had an issue with is Insta360.
Love the go pro. Had the 4 Silver, now on 9 black, never failed from diving with whale sharks and turtles, climbing mountains or filming in water parks. GoPro is a term the world used worldwide when they see someone with a little box on a stick.
Thanks for your thought Mr John
I'm about to buy gopro 8 too.
Do you think it will be better with pictures and cinematic videos?
But mostly photos
Appreciated that while the title is clickbait, the video delivers examples & hammers on the two biggest reliability problems with the camera. Good to hear others corroborate our firsthand experiences
Wouldn’t that make it not clickbait? Lol
@@noahgoldman9725 No it's clickbait because it is totally false. Gopro has the vast vast majority of market share in their category, making the title a purebred lie.
In the 11 Mini: shouldn‘t the heat sink and missing (big) screens reduce overheating issues quite substantially?
Hands down the DJI Osmo Action has never let me down. (Or overheated). A little more cropped but very reliable.
Action 3 is more wide then gopro 11
I've heard people say the same thing about GoPro too. Some say it overheats and others say their camera never overheated. It's kind of strange. I'm planning on buying GoPro so I hope there won't be any problems.
@@LorDDemoniC I'm not so sure its always the best thing. Yeah you can fit more things on one shot but usually either has fisheye look or it just looks wierd because because the FOV is so high that everything looks small on the footage and just looks kind of strange.
Osmo Action 1 is awesome. Just got my Action 3 in and it's a bit of a let down. I'm going to be doing a review this weekend on my channel.
Action 1 = audio is bad. action 2 and action 3, video quality is not good. dynamic range no good. Action 3, record in standard mode the video quality is lower than wide mode " you can compare closely and you can see it "
Every time I plug my Hero 8 Black into USB half my files are missing / don't show up... have to remove the SD card every single time I want to transfer files. brutally irritating flaw,
I currently have 6 GoPros, I almost always shoot 2.7k. I use them almost exclusively recording footage for my channel in the desert mounted to atvs in direct sunlight all day. Mine have been pretty much trouble free aside from a bug that only effected 1 of the 9s and that was taken care of in a firmware update. Overall I have no complaints and appreciate that they also shoot a low res version I can use for proxy editing. If they are as bad as people say I’m sure with 6 of them strapped to different people I’d be going crazy!!
Dude thank you for this. Just picked up a hero 11
Any experience to speak on with the Hero8?? Planning to go to the swamp/Forrest areas with it
When I was in high school I worked at Best Buy and through my 3 years of being there, we only moved like 5 of these things in total. I was shocked then and am shocked now that they are still putting out new stuff (however bad it may be). I am sure they do well online, but retail sales seem nonexistent.
Is there still a Best Buy?
I went there a few years back for all new kitchen appliances and they had none in stock and said it would be a month to a month and a half for delivery.
Not good enough for me.
@@TheBandit7613 Best Buy has actually gotten a lot better since 2020. I used to hate that company but for Black Friday this year, they had stock for days. I forgot to mention that mine was next to a massive shopping mall and we got a fair bit more traffic than average, so corporate kept us stocked and modern. Makes the GoPro thing look worse IMO.
They were the only ones with PS5’s. Other then that I’m not sure. It seems like no one has stock for Appliances since 2020 hit.
@@jayhawker03 They did not even have a microusb cord the last time I went there. Their convenience is their only strong point and they do not come anywhere close to being convenient.
@@mf-- I've found even Walmart can't stock their shelves anymore. Though it has improved over the last few months.
Completely agree, GoPro cameras have let me down many times. Oddly enough, the Hero5 Session 5 has been the most reliable of all the GoPros I've owned. On another note, the GoPro editing software is lousy and always feels like it's in beta. Thanks for the video.
I have the 11 Black and had zero issues with it so far. When you think about the trade off, like, what you are paying and what the camera does plus the myriad of accessories out there, it is still the most versatile camera that works for nearly everything when you compare to competition. Instead of buying one camera for each and every activity, vloggling, biking, car racing, skydiving, snowboarding, etc, etc, getting the gopro and the accessories you need is still the best option. Faulty products exist (and I'm not on GoPro's side here by any means) and always will.
Note: I am aware a lot of GoPro's accessories that are mount-based will work with other cameras, as the DJI Action.
still can't bodymount it without it's proprietary bra. ewww.
I had a 1st Gen Hero, then upgrading to a Hero 3+ Black when it came out new. Still using that today for my commercial work - sure, no 4K and stabilisation, but filming in 2.7K is more than enough, with both battery and memory lasting for ages. (still on original battery). Has never failed me once.
There is an obsession of shooting everything with 4k but videos are rarely viewed in 4k. And i dont get it.
@@mwuahugz1115 4K has the ability to crop in later in post and not lose too much quality... but this is a pretty specific editing requirement that I have never found wanting from my GoPro footage. I do film with my A-roll cameras in 4K for that reason. However, all my final delivered productions are always rendered in 1080p.
They market well. That's it. The Sony action cams have been my favorite for years. Heck, the Sony HDR-AS100VR from nearly 8 years ago had far superior stabilization with a ZIESS lens and recorded in stereo. It was even better shaped and could fit into your pocket easier.
Yup, my Sony HDR-AS20 is still rocking, with almost the same specs (minus GPS), but it has a 3.5mm microphone input, managing to support (real) microphones.
I've been so frustrated with my GoPro cameras recently. Sure, it's an old generation GoPro Hero 5, but ever since I bought it I frequently faced the same issues that you mentioned throughout this video. From stuttering to unresponsiveness, and now lately my 120fps footage was riddled full with duplicate frames that turned into horrible slow motion footage.
One thing noticed with my GoPro Session was that the SD card was simply too slow and the whole camera slowed down as a result.
If that's the case for you try getting a faster SD card. If that's not the case then...that sucks, GoPro's do seem to be great when they work, but just as often annoying
I did a lot of research before I bought and several people told me that Hero 7 Black was the sweet spot - got the stabilisation, but before most of the problems got worse. I managed to pick one up for £150 second hand, and they seem to be going up in price! No issues with freezing or overheating so far, but I do live in a cooler area of the world.
😂😂if we believed everything on TH-cam we'd be cowering in a corner at every turn gibbering 😅 I've just purchased the hero 3+ black edition to record heli flying.. it'll do for me and at a great price 👍
I experienced all of those issues with my Hero 9. I was planning to keep it as a backup after I purchased my Canon M50 Mark II, and that plan worked fine for about three months. Then the GoPro's memory suddenly decided that it contained more than 400,000 files, which would've taken months if not years to download. So now I have an expensive paperweight, and some nice videos that are presumed lost forever.
The real problem is 2 things:
1. Pricing
2. Losing focus on their own core selling point
I was among the first waves of people to jump on the GoPro wagon. My buddy had an early Hero2 we used for parkour, and I got myself a Hero3 Black a year later for skiing and parkour.
Back then GoPro were absolutely industry leading in image quality, durability, and price for quality.
But what made them really popular, was that they were a simple but complete package.
Their reliability was world famous, you'd see them in their cases thrown at literally anything - explosions, rally cars, extreme sports, people would treat the cameras like hot garbage but their well designed cases and sturdy internals would power through anything. It was the Nokia of the camera world, and unlocked the possibility to film things that could never have been filmed before. And people got creative with them.
However, at some point down the line, they introduced case-less cams, integrated screens, sensitive internal hardware, all these little things that added more potential points for failure, combined with an ever increasing cost.
What used to be a relatively cheap, good quality, highly durable and compact camera - was now expensive, tech reliant, and prone to failure. All the modern features are "nice to have", but they end up compromising on the "need to have's". The need for reliability, the need for good quality at affordable price, the need for ease of use and simplicity. All sacrificed for unnecessary luxuries that never made their cams what they were.
When competitors became better and offered comparable image quality for lower price, instead of fighting on their pricepoint, GoPro went all in on adding more features, thus raising prices even further. When I see their prices today it sickens me. If I was 15 years old again, I would never go to GoPro first like I did back then. I simply wouldn't be able to afford it. And killing your future market at an early stage is never a clever idea, and the result of their actions have now caught up with them.
My old Hero3 Black still captures full HD at 60fps, what more do most people realistically need? Sure 4k 60 is achievable today at the same price point, but a screen? A non-sturdy battery you can't easily hotswap? A camera that doesn't have a case to protect itself, thus the internals take the brunt of any force thrown at it.. Self-facing screen - is this an action cam or a smartphone??
In reality, the recipe GoPro should take is the following:
- 4K 60, 1440 60, 1080 120
- Updated exterior case
- Modern bulk Lithium battery
- Half price
Then you can have stuff like an accessory lightweight attachable rear screen for those who want it, etc.
Yeah it's not worth half the price, it's worth it's price. There's no camera like the GoPro, it beats every competitor almost everywhere. Lol I don't mean to be a dick but if you can't afford it ($500) then it isn't for you, just don't trash it.
I'm still using my Gopro Hero 2 and I'm shocked it lasted all these years.
Solid camera
Apparently "everyone" doesn't include the 2,800,000 people who bought GoPros in 2022. 🙄
I think the Hero 7 was the peak in terms of quality control, the rest later on has constant reliability issues.
I still have a Hero 3 and still going well!
ya right.
I've used my GP9 on a FPV drone nearly everyday since I bought it almost 2 years ago. Never had it freeze!! Idk what issues y'all are having. I love my Gp
You're flying it = cool air = no overheating. My one rs one inch overheats at 40mins. That's fine, it's a lot of technology. People cry about GoPro or any other manufacturer when they overheat. Lol
Same here, Session 5, Two Hero 10's and a Hero 7,......1000's of hours of footage and have had maybe 2-3 times one of them have frozen, not perfect, but very robust. Numerous FPS and aspect ratio settings from 110F to single digits, just my personal experience so far. Have a great day all!
"No other company has these issues". What a joke!
After switching to an Insta360 One X2 and losing 6 sessions of trackday footage due to freezing on its first use, I'm going back to GoPro. I've always had GoPro's, never an issue.
I literally see nobody abandoning GoPro.
Plus, GoPros are a solid piece of gear.
What’s going to happen is people going to buy one and have it for years an not worry about the updated one…. There on 11… the stock being down is a sign
Maybe you could "literally" open your eyes.
Just because they still maintain success in their market riding solely on their past legacy doesn't mean it's still solid like it once was.
The overheating issues as well as your video have made me decide on the new DJI. I'm not taking any chances on my first action cam.
DJI action cams over heat as well, if you run any small camera in a water proof housing at 4k for prolonged periods its gonna overheat. its unavoidable
Everyone I know has a GoPro, and I don’t think anyone is abandoning it
I'm not abandoning them because I never bought them. Bought a $50 Chinese knock-off on ebay that actually came with the waterproof go-pro compatible case and a bunch of straps and mounts. It's 80-90% as good and I don't worry as much about strapping it to the outside of my car, like I would with a $400 camera. Not every shot has to be in super-duper high resolution, image stabilized perfection.
No Chinese knock-off is as 90% good as a hero 11
@@thwalesproductions maybe, but this was probably 8 years ago. I haven't bought anything since.
I loved my hero 3+ black, after years of work and it has now failed in a few awkward times and I've lost recordings. The old models with the clear cases were bullet proof, I've thrown it down the road at over 110mph on many occasions with barely a scratch. I think I'll look elsewhere for a replacement now, the new ones are full of features I don't give a damn about.
Yeah my old cheap model is still going strong
Just two button so it was easy on cpu and software and worked i guess
@@manuxx3543 there's a reason why the action cam manufacturers in china don't bother cloning the newer gopros