Delta Rune Soundtrack: "VS Susie" rip Extended to 15 minutes Composer: Toby Fox Playlist: • Delta Rune OST Extended All rights belong to their respective owners
I get the feeling that's gonna happen and the worst part is that there's no one to blame but us. we created this mess, and some have the cruelty to continue with it. some are curious. it won't change what happens, it's still our fault.
@@georgemeyers7172 Assuming it works like Undertale, damage is increased when the person is pushing their own feelings away, which Susie is doing a lot because she really likes Lancer but feels betrayed. Similarly the more in touch with their feelings someone is the more damage they take. Lancer at the moment is full of love for both his Dad and for his friends, so takes a heck of a lot of damage. Alternatively, if we're going by non-undertale rules then he's also just standing there and not defending himself at all. So Susie is landing perfect hits that would do more damage. Or maybe it's a representation of emotional damage too. I doubt lancer could actually take thousands of points of damage and still be standing. So maybe it represents the pain he feels emotionally for having betrayed Susie and having their friendship tearing apart.
Because Jevil didn't become her new best friend, only to end up stabbing her in the back. She's way more upset with Lancer. It was the moment where she felt as though everything she had achieved in the Dark World up to that point had all been worthless, and that everyone around her still viewed her as nothing more than a rabid, angry monster.
You know in an RPG when a party member serves as a boss and suddenly their stats are astronomically higher than they normally are? Going from 2000 HP to 50,000 HP, and suddenly having immunity to things that normally shut them down hard, etc? Lancer isn't Susie's boss fight. Susie is Lancer's boss fight. Just like in Undertale Genocide when the first gameplay roadbump has a theme seemingly too epic for it; SHE'S not YOUR boss fight, YOU are HER boss fight, the culmination of everything she's ever done, the ultimate do or die, her own final boss in her own story. To you, she's a hard fight, but ultimately just the first hurdle to clear. To you, it's Tuesday, but to her, it's the most important moment in her entire life. Lancer vs Susie isn't quite that dramatic, but the idea is the same: The name of the theme is all the proof you need that yeah, Susie is Lancer's boss fight.
Susie is my favorite character by far. Her being the only one who can REALLY make her own choices, and that being one of the things Kris must like about her makes a cool dynamic. Hell, I know people mention Noelle as being the character to make route defining choices with, but the cool thing with Susie is that she literally ignores the player to make her own choices. Another thing is that she's just a good person despite what you're supposed to think at first, saving Kris twice now. That and so much other stuff I could go into, but I don't want to write a book in the comment section of stuff that's probably already been said.
Ya, you make a good point. We all know what strings bind Kirs. After all, they're the strings *we* have wielded since our first video games. And Ralsei has his own strings. He's been alone in the castle town for years (or at least it probably felt like years), and he must have been so starved for companionship that, despite advocating for peace, will still go along with -Kris- the Player when they choose to hurt everyone in their path. Not really reprimanding or scolding Kris for it. Most likely out of fear of being left alone again. And He's had the pressure of upholding the prophecy & stopping the Roaring for Toby knows how long. Ralsei's probably a slave to his own fears of isolation, not getting to make his own choices. (Because what if those choices cost him his first friends in forever?) And then there's Susie. Chapter 1 said that Susie would only ever Attack. But she was able to break free of that restraint. In Chapter 2, Susie broke free of the restraint that only Kris could do/order the needed Actions to Spare foes. And no matter what the Player has Kris do, no matter what option the player picks, Susie's still calling her own shots. She'll always blow off the groop project to go into the New Dark World. She'll always nab Ralsei & split off from Kris. She'll never be romantic with Noelle in the Ferris Wheel. She'll easily continue to call shots where the Player would usually get choices to make. And she'll probably be the one to prove that one's choices *do* matter in the finale of the Last Chapter.
@@thegreendragon5390 I think in the evil route of this game, Susie being the only character to be able to make her own choices will be targeted by the player. I think the player will try to kill susie in the future to further establish control in the world. Noelle's weaknesses are exploited in the snowgrave route, ralsei tries to oppose the player (by trying to talk to kris or doing actions when the player is not looking), but isn't very succesful. So, from the party, susie is the only one who disregards the player's actions. And if the player seeks total control, he'll want to take out anyone capable of resisting. So perhaps we'll see a kris vs susie fight later in the story. And, just like in undertale, i think that, with each chapter, the consequences of the previously done actions will change the story. For example, let's say that in the good story, we seek to kill the knight to stop him from doing evil. While in the bad story, we seek to kill the knight to absorb his power and do more evil. Both lead to the same outcome: the death of the knight, but the reasoning is different.
Honestly, I was terrified. Deltarune is SO MUCH more different than Undertale in that you actually have a third person you can’t control until the end (Susie) and you have to actually stop them from killing someone. It turns from, “Okay, I just won’t kill” to “What the heck can I do about Susie!?”
Something that really hits me about the end of this "fight" is how Lancer straight up tells Susie she missed, as if he was truly expecting her to kill him. He just accepted the possibility that he hurt Susie through his actions, and welcomed the consequences that came with that, even though he did what he did for a reason he knew was plausible and potentially beneficial to both him and his new friends. The saddest part wasn't Susie feeling betrayed, or Lancer getting terribly hurt. It was that he was ready to accept death, a *painful* death, mind you, if it meant Susie took at least a bit of comfort in knowing she scratched one more traitor from her life. ...He just... *took it.* And it wasn't his fault, nor was it Susie's. This entire scenario was painful for all the right reasons. Maybe I'm overthinking it. But I know what it's like to want to do the right thing and end up hurting friends because I did all the wrong things, which just so happened to be Lancer's situation. I think I relate to him more than I do Susie. We're not perfect, we build judgment as we grow and it's not always at the ready. The best learning experiences are the ones that hurt you the most.
How is there no replies to this yet, this is beautiful, the way that i can really tell you put some of your own emotions into this. but maybe I'M overthinking this.
“The best learning experiences are the ones that hurt you the most.” That couldn’t be more true. I’ve lost a handful of close friends because of my decisions and let me tell you, I have *not* recovered from the sting of that loss. I do miss them, but had I not lost them I would not have seen the fault of my actions.
The whole scene made me cringe, but not in the standard "ew" kind of way. It was such a well written scene that made me uncomfortable to a point where I only thought "god damn when is it gonna end, this is awful." Toby was at it again, using that magic touch of his to write a perfectly tense scene.
@@justonenumber7 I already know that, but didn't at the time of fighting him, still made him less trustworthy imo, I wouldn't be surprised if it were to happen again in later chapters. In any case I'd still like to kill him, just to see what would happen. The game *will* have a genocide route after all, according to the exp stat.
@gachadick if you want to write off half the population without even meeting them, that's your choice. I think generalization is gross though, personally.
i honestly felt so bad for lancer and susie in this battle, i doubt lancer could take thousands of hit points and still be standing but i think the damage was emotional damage too, he felt like he betrayed susie and susie felt like she had been betrayed, yet she didn't want to kill the best friend she's ever had
World Revolving is fun and all, but this is easily the best track in Chapter 1. It has so much tragedy and emotional weight to it, not to mention just being a killer bop of a tune. It's the same reason for why I always felt like Heartache was easily the most underrated boss theme in Undertale. Because you can just feel the emotion in the instruments, all without a word of lyrics. These two songs are the boss themes that make me cry. Vs. Susie starts off so angry and resentful, like Susie does in the fight. She's telling herself that Lancer is a backstabbing traitor, who she should get even with. She's taking out years of pent up anger, over being hated and isolated from everyone around her, all on poor, innocent Lancer. But the second verse is just desperate and heartbroken, as though Susie is just sobbing, mourning what she's doing to the one person that she was ever able to call a true friend.
if you listen to the right side of your earphones, you'll hear fear if you listen to the left side of your earphones, you'll hear anger susie was on the left side, lancer was on the right side
Heartache was Jevil’s battle theme at one point, and Bonetrousle was Rudebuster. Here’s an excerpt from an interview. “How long has the idea for DELTARUNE been kicking around in your head?” “In 2011, when I was away at school, I got very sick. I ended up having a terrible fever and couldn't get any medicine for it, and while I was sleeping I had a vivid dream about the ending to a game. Since then... I felt like I had to make the game with that ending. I attempted to make that game in 2012 using character designs by an artist I really liked called Kanotynes. However, I stopped making it even before I made a single room of the game. That game.. I ended up repurposing a few of the songs from it for UNDERTALE. For example, "Heartache" was originally called "Joker Battle" and "Bonetrousle" was originally the main battle theme. Then I decided around when I did the Kickstarter to UNDERTALE (2013) that if I ever completed UNDERTALE, my next game would be a mix of UNDERTALE and that concept.” This is from an interview Toby did with Nintendo about Deltarune.
Well said, heartache is easily one of my favorites from the UT ost and this is my absolute fave from DR, and the fact that people are so swept up in the meme characters and ignore the emotional cores of each game makes me a saaaaaaad panda
@@icestar831 f00k she drank alcohol again I gotta hit her with the punishment shovel - Me, after figuring out Prismaria was drunk when she posted the other comment
Most of this song sounds angry, which makes sense since Susie is trying to avenge her own perceived betrayal by Lancer. But when that piano kicks in (it's in the background; can be hard to notice when you aren't looking for it) at 0:54, you can really feel all the pain that Susie's experiencing. She's been unfairly isolated for most of her life, at school and possibly even at home. Lancer is the first person who seemed to actually WANT to be around her, and now she's has to contend with the fact that it was all just wishful thinking. AHHH THIS SONG MAKES ME SO SAD
This is possibly one off the most genius songs Toby Fox has ever made. The atmosphere of the situation was captured perfectly, Susie trying to kill Lancer because Susie thinks it is. What must be done. You know a song is good when it sends a chill down your spine.
then the second verse is her regreting this idea, she wants to spare lancer and it really uncovers her true story of about how she always was misunderstood and feared by people around her, she just wants to have a friend and prove to everyone she's a good person , not the menacing villain she is seen as
Well, there's a small caveat to that. The main rhythm timing is taken straight from Earthbound's City Bus Ride song (which much of his music takes inspiration from), but what he transformed that baseline into and how it fits into the game is really badass and unique. It deserves to be praised for sure.
I think my favorite part about the fight has to be that if you take too many hits (or intentionally get hit trying to stop Susie like I did…) Lancer just straight up makes his attacks miss, actively avoiding you, and after a while you just can’t get hit. Really sells the whole confrontation for me…
@@quackerbarrel5155 the one where the whole VS Susie event happens. going to the room right of the elevator afterwards brings you to a room full of cages
@@LunaticRhythms I imagine more percussion and what I call "galloping guitar". Don't know the proper term, but it's three strums and then a pause repeating. It sounds like a horse galloping to me, rhythm-wise.
@@sameoldsameold27 its like when you put two contrasting things together to enhance the impact of them. It has many implications, including writing, art and in this case music (damn english class actually helped)
"i trusted you...." in perfect song form. this track is just so raw with emotion man, perfectly compliments it's battle in a way only toby could pull off. good stuff man
By far one of the best songs in the Deltarune track. Everything was all fun and silliness, until this moment turned to a serious tension. edit: Looking back two years from now, I could've worded this comment properly.
This whole song is pure intimidation and just FEELS like susie's urge to kill, but then 0:53 is like the small bit of "hey I don't wanna murder lancer right now" and its perfect
The way I interpret that part is that it ALMOST breaks out into Lancers theme right there... The first 3 notes lead PERFECTLY into his theme. The fact that it doesn't is almost as if Susie is FORCING herself to not feel any emotion towards him, to focus only on his betrayal.
I was repeatedly saying the words "Please don't kill him" under my breath throughout this entire sequence on my first playthrough... God damn Toby Fox can make you genuinely love these fictional characters.
If you listen closely enough, you can hear three different emotions constantly playing throughout the song: Anger, Sadness, and Pain. The anger is represented through the secondary guitar, playing with a repetitive 8 notes and continuing to bubble up with no end. Sadness is portrayed through the lead guitar, starting off shadowed by the anger, but eventually showing itself as the main emotion. It plays long, stretched out notes, detached from the other instruments as if it were a wailing voice. The background string instrument (forgive me, I do not know what it is exactly) shows itself as pain. It doesn't appear to be present during the first part of the song, but it begins to show itself towards the end and amplifies the intensity of the other emotions, especially sadness. This song shows the emotions Susie is experiencing throughout her fight with Lancer, starting off with mostly anger as sadness and pain begin to show themselves more and more. It symbolizes Susie's internal struggle as she fights her best friend. TL;DR, this song rocks.
Wow! This is one of the best analysis of the song that I have read throughout every TH-cam video I've watched of this theme played, really. I honestly did not that the lead guitar represents the feeling of sadness, the rhythm guitar of anger and finally the other string instrument of pain. (That I honestly can't hear in my earphones but I do believe in you that it is there; I'll have to put more effort into hearing it.) I really like this! Edit: One point I want to mention...I really love that the other string instrument is not too audible for me to hear but is definitely there...goes to show that Susie's pain is being hidden from her other two emotions - and I really love how the theme shows it, really! Edit 2: I wish this comment has more likes, really.
Easily my favorite track in the entire game. Toby Fox is absolutely brilliant. He's great at everything. Game development, making music, story-writing, literally anything. This song communicates so much emotion--it really proves that music is by far one of the best things mankind has ever come up with. You can feel the sense of betrayal and genuine pain behind Susie's actions and a hint of Lancer's reason. Friendly reminder that this absolute masterpiece is free. I was astonished when I finally found out that it was on steam for a whopping 0 cents--both chapters. The only DOWNSIDE to deltarune is that I can't get my mind off it. Same with undertale. Toby's been a role model of mine since the day undertale came out. I've always been fascinated by it. Absolutely amazing.
I just realised that normally Susie does... what? 100+ damage per hit right? but in this fight she does upwards of 250 and even 300! It really helps convey the emotional distress Susie is going through in this fight, on one hand, she wants to kill Lancer for betraying her trust, causing her to take out years of pent up rage and aggression on him... but on the other hand, she doesn't want to kill Lancer because they were such good friends and she would feel horrible with the guilt she would carry about killing her friend. Strong stuff, eh?
Susie's damage got bigger whenever the time goes, like example when you fight Jevil, attack on first hit is beetween 90-120 but when the time goes, Susie's damage is beetween 120-150 i accidentally lating Jevil fight and im surprised that Susie's damage got bigger.
in undertale, you could do more damage depending on the vulnerability of the enemy. That's why betrayal boss kills (getting to a point where you could spare the enemy and then attacking instead) were 1-hit KNOCKOUTS. I'd imagine Lancer was pretty vulnerable in this fight; that was his best friend who was understandably hurt by his actions, and he couldn't even convince himself to fight back. Basically, Susie did both physical and emotional damage, lmao.
fun fact: Lancer has 2400 HP. the damage Susie does in the fight increases by 15 each turn, with the grand total being 2936. If Susie hadn't spared Lancer, that last hit would've killed him for sure.
this is one of the songs I wish Toby will expand on more in the later chapters, I think this song is great but short and repetitive. Maybe he'll make additions to susie's theme the more she grows during the game.
Thine rhythmic'eth arrangement of sounds'eth that may'st proceed to be'eth heard'eth when'st thou come'eth unto physical aggression'eth with the carbonated beverage device'eth.
maybe in a final fight in ch 7 snowgrave/genocide route where ralsei and susie + company kinda just reflect on what kris has become, and team up to do what they must to stop kris. maybe it'll show up mashed up with everyone's battle themes + rude buster.
Nothing has had me as emotionally attached to something like this game series has. Deltarune and undertale were such a big part of my life (probably more than any other thing I've liked) and never failed to make me cry. Toby fox is such a genius
I can also say, while this isn't the most important game to me, it still is very important to me and has shaped a lot of my younger self into who I am today, and honestly finding songs like these that explain things so well when I can't even explain them with words just does something to me and makes it feel like I'm not always alone, even if these characters don't exist and I love it
it would be AMAZING if Toby decides to put this song in later parts of Deltarune. Knowing Toby, he probably will. Toby is the type who just knows how to please a fandom the best he can. We should really all credit Toby a lot more. He's seriously good at his job.
It was really sad when I realized lancers attacks having less spades in them each turn wasn’t just because he didn’t want to kill Susie,he was probably hanging on by threads and was using all the strength he had left to survive susies attacks.
@Brooklyn Alexson The original term is "Your worst nightmare", yes. But in here, it's mixed with "your best friend" Hence the name "Your Best Nightmare" Check the track's name in the OST. It's only two clicks away.
Brooklyn Alexson the track that plays during the first half of photoshop floweys battle's called "Your best nightmare", cus floweys main theme and his leitmotif, and floweys speech relates to the term "your best friend"
This is such a perfect song for susie. It has the perfect aura of someone whos been broken so many times that theyve come to expect it. Susie is clearly suffering. She keeps pushing people away because in her eyes, every single friend shes ever had has abandoned her, and its her fault. Shes angry with herself, but doesnt know what do to, so in order to not feel the pain shes felt so many times, she refuses to let anyone get close, which only makes it hurt so much more when susie says "No, i get it. Why would anyone want to be my friend anyway?". Susie has come to think that this is just how she is, that she cant change. Then for the first time in a long time, she tries to opens up and form a friendship with someone, but in the end, is abandoned yet again, just like everyone else. She even scoffs at herself for thinking that this time was going to be any different. She thinks that lancer had never liked her, that he had only pretended to be her friend. Susie has never been liked, never been good at anything, never been supported by anyone. Shes angry that she trusted him, she feels betrayed, and alone. This song just perfectly encapsulates all of that raw emotion.
Honestly, after chapter 2, I think this theme will be exclusive to Chapter 1. Mostly because this theme directly represents that single battle its used in. If we ever fight Susie again, it's going to be different. And we're not gonna like what's gonna happen in that fight.
@@colonelflaunders That's true, and I would love that yet at the same time I have to deny it, as while it sounds fucking awesome, there's probably something better Toby will pull out.
I can definitely see this being remixed, but I dont think it'll be used straight. Toby has always loved using his music as a sort of shock factor in his games, so I would be surprised if this didn't have some sort of alteration if it ever appeared again.
I think it will be used again, but only having this as a leitmotif for the first part of the song, then expanding to be more complex at like a minute or so
The whole eating faces thing is going to send Susie STRAIGHT into the vore community, thanks toby (I originally said this on crunchii's extension but his channel got deleted)
I absolutely love the fact that the guitar riffs in the second half of the song are the same as the susie theme all the way back in the beginning, this is easily my favorite track of the game it's so good
Said it before, saying it again. What truly makes this fight is that even when you try to lose as hard as you can, you are still unable to stop what's going on. Things have spiraled outside even the players boundaries, and there is just so much rage involved that it defies your control. All you can do is watch, unable to intervene. It sets the tension up to make the ultimate resolution being a peaceful one all that more palpable. It's probably not a new trick in video game narratives, but it's still a good one.
Even though Lancer had good intentions (wanting to keep the lighteners from fighting his father because he didn't want anyone to get hurt), he _did_ still betray his friends (his _only_ friends). Meanwhile, Susie had _finally_ made friends with someone. This angry, withdrawn outcast who genuinely believed that no one would want to be her friend had actually managed to connect with someone. Then, that someone had her thrown into a dungeon. It really pisses me off that so many people treat Susie as the villain in this situation. Lancer isn't exactly a saint, either, and I'd argue that Lancer's actions were worse. Yeah, "pure little onion", I get it; he's a little kid and people want to treat him as though he Can Do No Wrong. Meanwhile, Susie is a big, scary dinosaur with an axe and a lot of anger issues. So, you'd assume that she's the bad guy, right? After all, she's _scary_ and *mean!* That's the sort of treatment that creates someone like Susie. The people who treat her as a villain without even considering that her actions might be understandable or even _justifiable_ in some cases are just like the people in Hometown whose judgement pushed Susie into being angry, withdrawn, and miserable. Self-righteous pricks...
Henry Mclaughlin That’s what so much about this boss fight. Neither character is completely in the right in this situation. It’s like watching two of your best friends get into a brawl in the parking lot. You want to love and support both, know they both made mistakes, and can understand the motivations behind both. Being someone who’s been an outcast before, I could honestly empathize with Susie a little more but I still felt desperate to stop her.
Except... nobody thinks she's the villain... Stop inventing "the self-righteous pricks" in your head. Also insulting people does not make your arguements better.
0:53 "And once again" "She stays the same" "That nasty brute" "She'll never change" "That what you want?" "Then I'll oblige" "Don't understand" "Why I still try" "(No-one would ever want to be my friend)"
Look, we all know this song will get reused later on in the game. It sounds too heroic to only be used just in that sceene. Maybe when Susie fights the player.
This is one of the best songs I’ve ever heard from the undertale/deltarune series, and your extended version loops so well XD Second favourite song in the game. I would tell you the first one, but its a bit... Chaotic.
@@trashbeast Considering digital roots also has the same motif for Omega Flowey in it and the name itself being a pun on flower roots, I find that incredibly hard to believe. This seems purposeful. The motif seems to be associated with evil and violence. A more horrifying idea is that the “Your Best Nightmare” intro motif is not inherently Flowey’s, but something else…
So Vs. Susie But Susie is in your team You aren't fighting Susie, the one doing that is Lancer But you aren't seeing this from Lancer's point of view So either this will be reused someday in which you do fight Susie, and thus it was named like this just to age well Or the name of this want to leave some deep meaning, like the fact that the one in this battle that has the advantage, or the one that is the "Boss" was indeed Susie, as Lancer was in a disadvantage A _moral_ one
Susie being a boss later on is definitely a big possibility now that we know the story will have at least some branching aspects, shown in chapter 2. I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes some great remix of this and either something related to castletown, or something in the future. Regardless of how it treats my heart, it will sound incredible.
Song that might play when you're banned from free ham sandwich day
can confirm
@@0ctaviaPony lol ur 2 names
STMPWYABFFHSD lol
For some reason, combined with this song, that made me go 'oh shit' out loud.
@@0ctaviaPony He legit made an account to comment under this video
r/Madlads
between this and It Means Everything from Omori, i'm starting to think the most heartbreaking genre of music is death metal.
Dude, same. I'm also reminded of It Means Everything by this song.
@@annaalexandra8715 You say it like it's a bad thing...
Aw heck yea. Very much sadness
And both aren't on good terms with their parents :)
I agree with you 100%-
When your mom comes in the room and sees the mess:
Alternate title for this soundtrack: Shattered Trust
0:38
I heard
"Move or ELSE"
Don't lie. I know your looking through the comments while listening to this music.
Of course I am...
Now if you excuse, let me continue scrolling.
yes
now I wish I didn't
**You tell Susie that you aren't scared of Barney wannabe's*
**...*
**you feel like you're about to lose your face*
Wow actually a funny meme haha all the others are "quiet kid" memes
@@Fish-dl7hd
Kris looks like he’s about to shoot a school
Susie looks like Barney was done singing
Ralsei looks like someone’s fursona
@@Neo-Metal17 that last one is one I never heard before
When Barney doesn't love you too
me when deltarune is actually miitopia
Can’t wait for the day Kris goes full snowgrave-style genocide and Susie and Ralsei have to fight their way to get the Player SOUL out of them.
YES.
cool
That would be cool
I get the feeling that's gonna happen and the worst part is that there's no one to blame but us. we created this mess, and some have the cruelty to continue with it. some are curious. it won't change what happens, it's still our fault.
Dude, it didn't happen in Chapter 1
wait-
Why couldn’t she do this much damage against Jevil
Hate for Lancer makes damage bigger for the time being.
George Meyers or Lancer had less defence
@@georgemeyers7172 Assuming it works like Undertale, damage is increased when the person is pushing their own feelings away, which Susie is doing a lot because she really likes Lancer but feels betrayed. Similarly the more in touch with their feelings someone is the more damage they take. Lancer at the moment is full of love for both his Dad and for his friends, so takes a heck of a lot of damage.
Alternatively, if we're going by non-undertale rules then he's also just standing there and not defending himself at all. So Susie is landing perfect hits that would do more damage.
Or maybe it's a representation of emotional damage too. I doubt lancer could actually take thousands of points of damage and still be standing. So maybe it represents the pain he feels emotionally for having betrayed Susie and having their friendship tearing apart.
Because Jevil didn't become her new best friend, only to end up stabbing her in the back. She's way more upset with Lancer. It was the moment where she felt as though everything she had achieved in the Dark World up to that point had all been worthless, and that everyone around her still viewed her as nothing more than a rabid, angry monster.
You know in an RPG when a party member serves as a boss and suddenly their stats are astronomically higher than they normally are? Going from 2000 HP to 50,000 HP, and suddenly having immunity to things that normally shut them down hard, etc? Lancer isn't Susie's boss fight. Susie is Lancer's boss fight.
Just like in Undertale Genocide when the first gameplay roadbump has a theme seemingly too epic for it; SHE'S not YOUR boss fight, YOU are HER boss fight, the culmination of everything she's ever done, the ultimate do or die, her own final boss in her own story. To you, she's a hard fight, but ultimately just the first hurdle to clear. To you, it's Tuesday, but to her, it's the most important moment in her entire life.
Lancer vs Susie isn't quite that dramatic, but the idea is the same: The name of the theme is all the proof you need that yeah, Susie is Lancer's boss fight.
one word :
*F E E L S*
*remember* s susie y you missed
SUSIE YOU MISSED WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU FOR YOU TO MISS YOUR TARGET
why tho?
Niko, but red?
Viewtiful Joe vibe
Susie is my favorite character by far. Her being the only one who can REALLY make her own choices, and that being one of the things Kris must like about her makes a cool dynamic. Hell, I know people mention Noelle as being the character to make route defining choices with, but the cool thing with Susie is that she literally ignores the player to make her own choices. Another thing is that she's just a good person despite what you're supposed to think at first, saving Kris twice now. That and so much other stuff I could go into, but I don't want to write a book in the comment section of stuff that's probably already been said.
Ya, you make a good point.
We all know what strings bind Kirs. After all, they're the strings *we* have wielded since our first video games.
And Ralsei has his own strings.
He's been alone in the castle town for years (or at least it probably felt like years), and he must have been so starved for companionship that, despite advocating for peace, will still go along with -Kris- the Player when they choose to hurt everyone in their path. Not really reprimanding or scolding Kris for it. Most likely out of fear of being left alone again. And He's had the pressure of upholding the prophecy & stopping the Roaring for Toby knows how long. Ralsei's probably a slave to his own fears of isolation, not getting to make his own choices. (Because what if those choices cost him his first friends in forever?)
And then there's Susie.
Chapter 1 said that Susie would only ever Attack. But she was able to break free of that restraint.
In Chapter 2, Susie broke free of the restraint that only Kris could do/order the needed Actions to Spare foes.
And no matter what the Player has Kris do, no matter what option the player picks, Susie's still calling her own shots.
She'll always blow off the groop project to go into the New Dark World.
She'll always nab Ralsei & split off from Kris.
She'll never be romantic with Noelle in the Ferris Wheel.
She'll easily continue to call shots where the Player would usually get choices to make.
And she'll probably be the one to prove that one's choices *do* matter in the finale of the Last Chapter.
@@thegreendragon5390 Hell yeah dude! I'm glad you get it too!
You gave me a headcannon . Maybe one of the reason why kris likes Susie, because she can her own choices and not let the soul order her around.
Susie is my favorite too
@@thegreendragon5390 I think in the evil route of this game, Susie being the only character to be able to make her own choices will be targeted by the player. I think the player will try to kill susie in the future to further establish control in the world. Noelle's weaknesses are exploited in the snowgrave route, ralsei tries to oppose the player (by trying to talk to kris or doing actions when the player is not looking), but isn't very succesful. So, from the party, susie is the only one who disregards the player's actions. And if the player seeks total control, he'll want to take out anyone capable of resisting. So perhaps we'll see a kris vs susie fight later in the story. And, just like in undertale, i think that, with each chapter, the consequences of the previously done actions will change the story. For example, let's say that in the good story, we seek to kill the knight to stop him from doing evil. While in the bad story, we seek to kill the knight to absorb his power and do more evil. Both lead to the same outcome: the death of the knight, but the reasoning is different.
Your extended versions loop way better than anyone else's.
I have a leitmotif challenge
I bet you cant find the letmotif at this part 0:53 and no im not talking about other in game songs
@@floofycupkim1197 lancer
@@honk2413 nope
@@floofycupkim1197 metal crusher
@@honk2413 nope, I said its not in game so think outside the box
Honestly, I was terrified. Deltarune is SO MUCH more different than Undertale in that you actually have a third person you can’t control until the end (Susie) and you have to actually stop them from killing someone. It turns from, “Okay, I just won’t kill” to “What the heck can I do about Susie!?”
Unless you want to kill
In my playthrough i went in knowing there was no genocide or passifist
So i just went on a massacre
@@mendeta07 then you missed the little extra bit in the ending
@@mendeta07 fighting was the easiest way
@@magicant_ *murder is more fun*
This song somehow I can feel anger, pain and sadness, it is just a reflection of Susie, that really makes me feel very bad for her.
Resentment. Pain. Regret. Anger. Desperation. Heartbreak...and the need to keep her walls up so it doesn't break again.
YES
@The Host Lucario Susie during ch 1: someone who didn't have friends
Susie during ch 2: harem anime protagonist
Hindsight andy
@@keleee I gave all the good options to Susie since she is cool asf
i like how its called vs Susie because your not fighting lancer...
your fighting Susie's urge to kill him
or maybe because lancer is battling Susie
This actually needs more likes as it makes sense.
there's also the possibility that you were never the one fighting and this was an elaborate cutscene
Yea I see that many people try to get Susie killed in this fight so she doesn’t kill Lancer, but Lancer then goes Toriel on you and purposely misses
wrong, I wanted her to kill him, or massacre him the proper way.
shut up ralsey.
We all came here to appreciate the purple tomboy, and her kickass theme.
preach
Yes
@Matthew Gover jealous?
@@MOOTLEZ ???????
And to see if anyone noticed the Omega Flowey theme because I don't see anyone talk about it when it's right there!
Something that really hits me about the end of this "fight" is how Lancer straight up tells Susie she missed, as if he was truly expecting her to kill him. He just accepted the possibility that he hurt Susie through his actions, and welcomed the consequences that came with that, even though he did what he did for a reason he knew was plausible and potentially beneficial to both him and his new friends.
The saddest part wasn't Susie feeling betrayed, or Lancer getting terribly hurt. It was that he was ready to accept death, a *painful* death, mind you, if it meant Susie took at least a bit of comfort in knowing she scratched one more traitor from her life.
...He just... *took it.* And it wasn't his fault, nor was it Susie's. This entire scenario was painful for all the right reasons.
Maybe I'm overthinking it. But I know what it's like to want to do the right thing and end up hurting friends because I did all the wrong things, which just so happened to be Lancer's situation. I think I relate to him more than I do Susie. We're not perfect, we build judgment as we grow and it's not always at the ready. The best learning experiences are the ones that hurt you the most.
How is there no replies to this yet, this is beautiful, the way that i can really tell you put some of your own emotions into this. but maybe I'M overthinking this.
been there, done that
..
toby really stepped up the emotional relativity people may have towards the characters, and the best example so far is susie.
oh shit you're right
“The best learning experiences are the ones that hurt you the most.”
That couldn’t be more true. I’ve lost a handful of close friends because of my decisions and let me tell you, I have *not* recovered from the sting of that loss. I do miss them, but had I not lost them I would not have seen the fault of my actions.
The whole scene made me cringe, but not in the standard "ew" kind of way. It was such a well written scene that made me uncomfortable to a point where I only thought "god damn when is it gonna end, this is awful." Toby was at it again, using that magic touch of his to write a perfectly tense scene.
Not going to sugar coat it, I was about to break some tears for once in a game, glad to know lancer was spared...
yea
@@justonenumber7 Hol up
I was actually dissapointed susie spared lancer, was looking forward to ending him. Oh well, sugarcoated storypath.
@@justonenumber7 Am I an edgelord for wanting to kill a traitor? I don't think so
@@justonenumber7 I already know that, but didn't at the time of fighting him, still made him less trustworthy imo, I wouldn't be surprised if it were to happen again in later chapters. In any case I'd still like to kill him, just to see what would happen. The game *will* have a genocide route after all, according to the exp stat.
There are two kinds of people here, people who like Susie, and people who have *been* Susie.
@@ionlydrinkjesusmilk7256 They wouldn't want to be here, is what I was feeling
@gachadick if you want to write off half the population without even meeting them, that's your choice. I think generalization is gross though, personally.
What about people who like susie because they have been a susie?
@@fenix3188 this
Me playing hard RPG game, instantly turns into Susie
i honestly felt so bad for lancer and susie in this battle, i doubt lancer could take thousands of hit points and still be standing but i think the damage was emotional damage too, he felt like he betrayed susie and susie felt like she had been betrayed, yet she didn't want to kill the best friend she's ever had
/e shut up (this is a joke because of the new /e shut up meme)
@@flourrrr why????????
@@flourrrr the joke isnt even funny and is way to overused every single time someone says "/e free" on a roblox audio or ugc item
@@kiwitheleafeon /e shut up
@@flourrrr /e overused joke
World Revolving is fun and all, but this is easily the best track in Chapter 1. It has so much tragedy and emotional weight to it, not to mention just being a killer bop of a tune. It's the same reason for why I always felt like Heartache was easily the most underrated boss theme in Undertale. Because you can just feel the emotion in the instruments, all without a word of lyrics.
These two songs are the boss themes that make me cry.
Vs. Susie starts off so angry and resentful, like Susie does in the fight. She's telling herself that Lancer is a backstabbing traitor, who she should get even with. She's taking out years of pent up anger, over being hated and isolated from everyone around her, all on poor, innocent Lancer. But the second verse is just desperate and heartbroken, as though Susie is just sobbing, mourning what she's doing to the one person that she was ever able to call a true friend.
Adding onto this: the sadder melody covers up the main one, almost as though her sadness and guilt is overriding her anger and urge to kill Lancer.
if you listen to the right side of your earphones, you'll hear fear
if you listen to the left side of your earphones, you'll hear anger
susie was on the left side, lancer was on the right side
sans deltarune lol
Heartache was Jevil’s battle theme at one point, and Bonetrousle was Rudebuster.
Here’s an excerpt from an interview.
“How long has the idea for DELTARUNE been kicking around in your head?”
“In 2011, when I was away at school, I got very sick. I ended up having a terrible fever and couldn't get any medicine for it, and while I was sleeping I had a vivid dream about the ending to a game. Since then... I felt like I had to make the game with that ending. I attempted to make that game in 2012 using character designs by an artist I really liked called Kanotynes. However, I stopped making it even before I made a single room of the game.
That game.. I ended up repurposing a few of the songs from it for UNDERTALE. For example, "Heartache" was originally called "Joker Battle" and "Bonetrousle" was originally the main battle theme. Then I decided around when I did the Kickstarter to UNDERTALE (2013) that if I ever completed UNDERTALE, my next game would be a mix of UNDERTALE and that concept.”
This is from an interview Toby did with Nintendo about Deltarune.
Well said, heartache is easily one of my favorites from the UT ost and this is my absolute fave from DR, and the fact that people are so swept up in the meme characters and ignore the emotional cores of each game makes me a saaaaaaad panda
When somebody spells “Suzie” instead of Susie
@@icestar831 f00k she drank alcohol again I gotta hit her with the punishment shovel - Me, after figuring out Prismaria was drunk when she posted the other comment
Literally no one ever.
I think you mean Saucie
Yeah you don't spell Suzie like that
@@amogus2056 ...is this irony?
Most of this song sounds angry, which makes sense since Susie is trying to avenge her own perceived betrayal by Lancer. But when that piano kicks in (it's in the background; can be hard to notice when you aren't looking for it) at 0:54, you can really feel all the pain that Susie's experiencing. She's been unfairly isolated for most of her life, at school and possibly even at home. Lancer is the first person who seemed to actually WANT to be around her, and now she's has to contend with the fact that it was all just wishful thinking.
AHHH THIS SONG MAKES ME SO SAD
this song literally has so many emoitons lmao
THATS A PIANO? bro I've been trying to figure out what the background instrument was for so long thank you
This is possibly one off the most genius songs Toby Fox has ever made. The atmosphere of the situation was captured perfectly, Susie trying to kill Lancer because Susie thinks it is. What must be done. You know a song is good when it sends a chill down your spine.
then the second verse is her regreting this idea, she wants to spare lancer and it really uncovers her true story of about how she always was misunderstood and feared by people around her, she just wants to have a friend and prove to everyone she's a good person , not the menacing villain she is seen as
Well, there's a small caveat to that. The main rhythm timing is taken straight from Earthbound's City Bus Ride song (which much of his music takes inspiration from), but what he transformed that baseline into and how it fits into the game is really badass and unique. It deserves to be praised for sure.
I think my favorite part about the fight has to be that if you take too many hits (or intentionally get hit trying to stop Susie like I did…) Lancer just straight up makes his attacks miss, actively avoiding you, and after a while you just can’t get hit. Really sells the whole confrontation for me…
Or make you sad
im calling it: someones gonna 'fix' the like to comment ratio with a '[blank] LiKeS aNd [blank] RePlIeS? LeT Me FiX tHaT!"
Oh, actual extended version, not just simple loop
@@dapperdab4530 ummmm….basement and cages?
@@dapperdab4530 What basement and cages are you on about?
@@quackerbarrel5155 the one where the whole VS Susie event happens. going to the room right of the elevator afterwards brings you to a room full of cages
@@randomcatdude I should replay Chapter 1.
is it weird that I can FEEL how this song is holding back? like, even the SONG doesn't wanna hurt Lancer
if THIS is the song holding back, imagine it going at full force!
@@LunaticRhythms explosive speaker noises from every home on earth
@@PRAISENOBEASTHAN bruh true
@@LunaticRhythms I imagine more percussion and what I call "galloping guitar". Don't know the proper term, but it's three strums and then a pause repeating. It sounds like a horse galloping to me, rhythm-wise.
@@Sassaparillatremolo
the juxtaposition of "get out of my way" with "please, i don't want to hurt you" is what makes this one of the most banger tracks thus far
I have absolutely no idea what that word means! :D
@@sameoldsameold27 its like when you put two contrasting things together to enhance the impact of them. It has many implications, including writing, art and in this case music (damn english class actually helped)
holy shit these two phrases actually fit within the melody
yo that makes so much sense tf
When you finally face the school bully.
Thomas Winz you would've got sent to juvenile hall or jail so stop lying
@Thomas Winz This just sounds like some bullshit power fantasy. "The Human Devil" oh go fuck yourself.
And you Beat The crap out of him
@Exetior The Demon Hedgehog nah
Nah.
When the school bully finally faces themself.
"i trusted you...." in perfect song form. this track is just so raw with emotion man, perfectly compliments it's battle in a way only toby could pull off. good stuff man
Ikr?? Its an absolutely amazingly powerful song
By far one of the best songs in the Deltarune track. Everything was all fun and silliness, until this moment turned to a serious tension.
edit: Looking back two years from now, I could've worded this comment properly.
The situation is so serious that it doesn't play the boss' music because they're not the boss. Susie IS the boss.
Everybody gangsta till Lancer throws ‘em in the dungeon
this comment is kinda funny from how its worded
Idk the way it’s worded is Shakespearean to me
This whole song is pure intimidation and just FEELS like susie's urge to kill, but then 0:53 is like the small bit of "hey I don't wanna murder lancer right now" and its perfect
that part is just feeling of betrayal, and not wanting to do something terrible someone you like
"I dont want to kill you man....just move....please...."
The way I interpret that part is that it ALMOST breaks out into Lancers theme right there...
The first 3 notes lead PERFECTLY into his theme. The fact that it doesn't is almost as if Susie is FORCING herself to not feel any emotion towards him, to focus only on his betrayal.
@@EvoBeDevo That's a really good interpretation, nice thinking!
41%, never forget.
BOI STOP MISSING ME ON PURPOSE I AM TRYING TO SAVE YOUR LIFE
Penny Dreadful that’s what I said too.
Boi(girl) revolted(angry) ;-;
I literally thought that was the way to do pacifist. By letting Susie get defeated. But then both of them flat out gave up.
This is me during this fight
@@thenameyoushouldknowthekin8998 yup, I ran into as many bullets as possible.
*"Megalovania is the best song!"*
Susie: Hold my *AXE.*
**clap** **CLAP** **I SAID CLA-**
Both are actually really good
I think even
ax*
Different meanings, so hard to compare for me 🤷♂️
I was repeatedly saying the words "Please don't kill him" under my breath throughout this entire sequence on my first playthrough... God damn Toby Fox can make you genuinely love these fictional characters.
He's Toby fox, he is beyond human comprehension
good shit bro, toby fox never fails to do that to me istg
Can’t take you serious with that profile picture 💀
Nah that's just cringy 💀
what a banger
Yes edgy barney is banger
the shiny umbreon that’s not what I meant : (
Oh yeah, seeing as how she BANGS the axe into Lancer’s face >:)
egg egg.
Nice.
ikr
*_LIFE IS AS EXTREME AS YOU MAKE IT!_*
Boi(girl) revolted(angry) ;-;
Uhhh... I can explain!
Maybe we didn’t sing it right.
200th like
spang bab
Fun fact you can edit susies stats and make her kill lancer by making her strength really high and softlock your game
Wait really?? 😭
@@leisliemunoz4876 Apparently yeah
@@reyntechmen3940 that's crazy
What if you hack her defense to be low enough to die?
bad ending-lancer is dead,and susie is stuck in the first stage of grief. You and Ralsei are stuck in prison forever.
This Fight In A Nutshell: Pink Lizard Lady With An Axe Tries To Murder A Playing Card Child
more accurately: emo barney with a massive axe tries to slice a spade child who resembles sans to everyone
@@superyoshi1200 to me he resembles me to papyrus
Lancer calls her purple
@GL1TCH yes
@@nadinaalexander2713 I would say susie is barney's younger sister
But yes lancer is a mini sans
When your 15v1 in Dodgeball.
But the 1 is the school bully
But the 1 is the PE teacher.
imagine being as great as sans in the position.
That happened to me once, was pretty fun
The one being the guy who always dodges all the time no matter what you do
If you listen closely enough, you can hear three different emotions constantly playing throughout the song: Anger, Sadness, and Pain.
The anger is represented through the secondary guitar, playing with a repetitive 8 notes and continuing to bubble up with no end. Sadness is portrayed through the lead guitar, starting off shadowed by the anger, but eventually showing itself as the main emotion. It plays long, stretched out notes, detached from the other instruments as if it were a wailing voice. The background string instrument (forgive me, I do not know what it is exactly) shows itself as pain. It doesn't appear to be present during the first part of the song, but it begins to show itself towards the end and amplifies the intensity of the other emotions, especially sadness.
This song shows the emotions Susie is experiencing throughout her fight with Lancer, starting off with mostly anger as sadness and pain begin to show themselves more and more. It symbolizes Susie's internal struggle as she fights her best friend.
TL;DR, this song rocks.
Wow! This is one of the best analysis of the song that I have read throughout every TH-cam video I've watched of this theme played, really.
I honestly did not that the lead guitar represents the feeling of sadness, the rhythm guitar of anger and finally the other string instrument of pain. (That I honestly can't hear in my earphones but I do believe in you that it is there; I'll have to put more effort into hearing it.)
I really like this!
Edit: One point I want to mention...I really love that the other string instrument is not too audible for me to hear but is definitely there...goes to show that Susie's pain is being hidden from her other two emotions - and I really love how the theme shows it, really!
Edit 2: I wish this comment has more likes, really.
It conveys a string of sad events that susie and lancer experience during this and its put together masterfully.
yes! you put it into words! daaamn, i heard it before but im hearing it even more now
r/i'm14andthisisdeep
This is underrated Af
I can just imagine while this plays you can just see like 5 or 6 Susies playing the instruments in the background
ok this is cool as hell thank you
@@cube4547 XD you're welcome
"Please, keep body slamming the soda machine."
@Gaming Fan Rio sorry, I meant emit
"You are unbanned from Free Ham Sandwich Day."
Easily my favorite track in the entire game.
Toby Fox is absolutely brilliant. He's great at everything. Game development, making music, story-writing, literally anything. This song communicates so much emotion--it really proves that music is by far one of the best things mankind has ever come up with. You can feel the sense of betrayal and genuine pain behind Susie's actions and a hint of Lancer's reason.
Friendly reminder that this absolute masterpiece is free. I was astonished when I finally found out that it was on steam for a whopping 0 cents--both chapters.
The only DOWNSIDE to deltarune is that I can't get my mind off it. Same with undertale. Toby's been a role model of mine since the day undertale came out. I've always been fascinated by it. Absolutely amazing.
The song that plays when you trigger Barney.
Aaaaaand now i'm thinking of an OST name change.
Deltarune OST - The Song That Plays When Barney Gets Fucking Pissed.
The song that plays when you get Emo Genderbent Barney upset
(I got rid of the swear words because I’m a wimp)
Ooo! Ooo! I got another one!
Deltarune OST - The Song That Plays When You Piss Off Barney's Step-Daughter XD
LtOmega
Lol
*cough* *cough* SMG4 *cough* *cough* :v
Noob: susie
Pro: suzie
God: sushi
@@josegranadino754 ascended: purple edgy dinousaur
and ultimatal univrss good:
s00z
The ultimate form of a god:
Barney the cownosaur after eating chocolate flavored chocolate and a bottle of sweet drinks
@@around441pipissharingaytac4 **Clap**... **Clap**... **Clap**...
5 hours later: SANS
I just realised that normally Susie does... what? 100+ damage per hit right? but in this fight she does upwards of 250 and even 300!
It really helps convey the emotional distress Susie is going through in this fight, on one hand, she wants to kill Lancer for betraying her trust, causing her to take out years of pent up rage and aggression on him... but on the other hand, she doesn't want to kill Lancer because they were such good friends and she would feel horrible with the guilt she would carry about killing her friend.
Strong stuff, eh?
Susie's damage got bigger whenever the time goes, like example when you fight Jevil, attack on first hit is beetween 90-120 but when the time goes, Susie's damage is beetween 120-150 i accidentally lating Jevil fight and im surprised that Susie's damage got bigger.
also, don't forget that Lancer started out like what, -40 DEF, and it decreased by 5 at the start of each turn including the first turn
man when susie joined for first time the party and fight the first k. round she did 500 of damage
in undertale, you could do more damage depending on the vulnerability of the enemy. That's why betrayal boss kills (getting to a point where you could spare the enemy and then attacking instead) were 1-hit KNOCKOUTS. I'd imagine Lancer was pretty vulnerable in this fight; that was his best friend who was understandably hurt by his actions, and he couldn't even convince himself to fight back. Basically, Susie did both physical and emotional damage, lmao.
fun fact: Lancer has 2400 HP. the damage Susie does in the fight increases by 15 each turn, with the grand total being 2936. If Susie hadn't spared Lancer, that last hit would've killed him for sure.
this is one of the songs I wish Toby will expand on more in the later chapters, I think this song is great but short and repetitive.
Maybe he'll make additions to susie's theme the more she grows during the game.
@@weelilwalt that's absolutely a fair point. I only thought it was susies cause it used the same theme in the beginning. Lets hope
That would make this then ten times more badass
I can just imagine how this was on Lancer's end.
"*You feel your -sins- betrayals crawling down your back."
I mean lancer didn't die or anything
Who knows, maybe there's a timeline where Susie's anger was way stronger than her care for Lancer and he died
@@UndecisiveAngel 😭
@@UndecisiveAngel I don't think that could have happened but I wonder what she would have told Kris and Ralsei
Lancer... I remember you're... Betrayals.
struggling to open a can of beans while listening to this is very intense
I can imagine this situation
absolutely godlike comment right here
@@trashbeast thnx
@@bruhnova8917this situation at 1:52
The song thatsth might playing when thou tackles the soda machine.
Signed RK.
Thine rhythmic'eth arrangement of sounds'eth that may'st proceed to be'eth heard'eth when'st thou come'eth unto physical aggression'eth with the carbonated beverage device'eth.
@@prometheanrebel3838 ETH
Barb Kendall Etheth
@@thealientree3821 oth
@@prometheanrebel3838 _cries_
*Imagine having Susie as a friend. Someone insults you and they lose their face.*
I want her as friend 😂
well would you mess with anyone with susie behind them?
Susie sheep from roblox piggy had a why she want kill the player now!!!
Holy shit that would be awesome
Gianmarco Anastasi
wrong game, wrong character.
Red Hot Chili Pepper
Even now, this gives me chills. I hope I get to hear it again in an upcoming chapter.
Same here
i want and don't want to hear this song again lmao
@@dedo9990 getting to hear this song again in future chapters: 😁
*getting to hear THIS song again in future chapters:* *o h n o*
maybe in a final fight in ch 7 snowgrave/genocide route where ralsei and susie + company kinda just reflect on what kris has become, and team up to do what they must to stop kris. maybe it'll show up mashed up with everyone's battle themes + rude buster.
The people under this comment are weird
The song that might play when no one steals this reply
The song that might play when you steal someone's comment
The song that might play when you steal someone's comment
The song that might play when you find a gacha life youtuber.
Or when someone assumes that you stole a comment
this song fucking hurts dude. that second verse is so full of pain and confusion and betrayal and ugh. god this song fucking hurts.
Susie rides on a bus from Twoson to Threed
You are everywhere on mother 3 deltarune an undertale
I KNEW this track was familiar! That Runaway Five riff is so groovin’!
- PK Fire! - idk
barney is a dinosaur from our imagination
she's also pretty good at decapitation
@@vonKasa now shes here to ensure her wrath, and cause devastation
Oh s*** she’s here to kill us all
@gold ingot 555 and now she hides form all
Barney the independent dinosaur
Nothing has had me as emotionally attached to something like this game series has. Deltarune and undertale were such a big part of my life (probably more than any other thing I've liked) and never failed to make me cry. Toby fox is such a genius
SAME OMG
I can also say, while this isn't the most important game to me, it still is very important to me and has shaped a lot of my younger self into who I am today, and honestly finding songs like these that explain things so well when I can't even explain them with words just does something to me and makes it feel like I'm not always alone, even if these characters don't exist and I love it
As much as this theme slaps,
I feel like it's gonna *burn* if we hear it in a future chapter.
It is definitely, I predict that we’re gonna fight ralsei and susie on a future chapter.
Yea
@@astersucksbaconrulez at the very least we're going to get a ralsei fight at some point, maybe even in a pacifist route
We might get a Susie fight if you do a whole genocide route during every chapter and the final chapter makes you fight and kill susie
@@vitopasco8266
then you lose and the world ends.
When you're facing your bully.
...
And they're winning-
Tomo Key Cookie oof
then u get ur sword
@@kirbysfather1006 grab a chainsaw-
Then you turn into demosamurai
OOF
Susie:get out of my way…
lancer:Susie the hallway is one block wide how would I move out of your way
Just now realized this song sounds a lot like "Get on the Bus" from Earthbound
Toby really just remixed Nintendo’s song and got it put on the switch 🤯
it also kinda sounds like that one contra ost mazze fortress or something like that
anyone here cuz of rhcp?
yes
cool
@@dissolvingcorpse indeed
yba moment
I heard this in yba and thought “did they add susie theme???”
Toby: Nah bruh, Undyne is just rowdy. This chick is homicidal.
thanks for being probably the first to make an extension that seamlessly loops
The first to make the actual song itself loop
it would be AMAZING if Toby decides to put this song in later parts of Deltarune. Knowing Toby, he probably will. Toby is the type who just knows how to please a fandom the best he can. We should really all credit Toby a lot more. He's seriously good at his job.
maybe in genocide
@@ratman8441 eh, I’m not sure. I was thinking about him using this theme in a more “Susie Vs Antagonist” setting. I like the genocide idea.
I love Susie! This song was my favorite in the game.
Yes boi I love edgy barney to
Emo Barney the Dinosaur is one of the best, folks.
No one cares :)
@@pessoacomfotodashiromi4582
then why did you reply? if you really didn't care, then you wouldn't have bothered to say that for no reason
@@pessoacomfotodashiromi4582 commit do you talk to your mother like that
Song That Might Play When You Fight Genderbent Edgy Barney
Succ Lord The song that might play when edgy barney is forced to fight reboot sans.
@@sasharcy9426 Reboot Papyrus*
It was really sad when I realized lancers attacks having less spades in them each turn wasn’t just because he didn’t want to kill Susie,he was probably hanging on by threads and was using all the strength he had left to survive susies attacks.
Probably both
this song radiates "get f*cked" energy
That’s funny cuz I was the one who was- nvm
0:06 i hear "You Idiot" or "Your Worst Nightmare"
It’s Your Best Nightmare
@Brooklyn Alexson
The original term is "Your worst nightmare", yes.
But in here, it's mixed with "your best friend"
Hence the name "Your Best Nightmare"
Check the track's name in the OST. It's only two clicks away.
Brooklyn Alexson
the track that plays during the first half of photoshop floweys battle's called "Your best nightmare", cus floweys main theme and his leitmotif, and floweys speech relates to the term "your best friend"
Its your worst idiot
th-cam.com/video/eUcThHVbrXY/w-d-xo.html
This is such a perfect song for susie. It has the perfect aura of someone whos been broken so many times that theyve come to expect it. Susie is clearly suffering. She keeps pushing people away because in her eyes, every single friend shes ever had has abandoned her, and its her fault. Shes angry with herself, but doesnt know what do to, so in order to not feel the pain shes felt so many times, she refuses to let anyone get close, which only makes it hurt so much more when susie says "No, i get it. Why would anyone want to be my friend anyway?". Susie has come to think that this is just how she is, that she cant change. Then for the first time in a long time, she tries to opens up and form a friendship with someone, but in the end, is abandoned yet again, just like everyone else. She even scoffs at herself for thinking that this time was going to be any different. She thinks that lancer had never liked her, that he had only pretended to be her friend. Susie has never been liked, never been good at anything, never been supported by anyone. Shes angry that she trusted him, she feels betrayed, and alone. This song just perfectly encapsulates all of that raw emotion.
Honestly, after chapter 2, I think this theme will be exclusive to Chapter 1. Mostly because this theme directly represents that single battle its used in. If we ever fight Susie again, it's going to be different. And we're not gonna like what's gonna happen in that fight.
I think it's possible to be used again but only if there's any severe betrayal that happens leading to Susie's unbridled rage
@@colonelflaunders That's true, and I would love that yet at the same time I have to deny it, as while it sounds fucking awesome, there's probably something better Toby will pull out.
@@guardian8926 Oh yeh knowing toby he's gonna pull off something amazing
I can definitely see this being remixed, but I dont think it'll be used straight. Toby has always loved using his music as a sort of shock factor in his games, so I would be surprised if this didn't have some sort of alteration if it ever appeared again.
I think it will be used again, but only having this as a leitmotif for the first part of the song, then expanding to be more complex at like a minute or so
Reminds me of madness combat for some reason
That 300 damage per hit would’ve been real nice for Jevil, Susie
The whole eating faces thing is going to send Susie STRAIGHT into the vore community, thanks toby
(I originally said this on crunchii's extension but his channel got deleted)
*how pleasant...*
*How nice.*
*how interesting.*
*How mentally scarring...*
*how thrilling*
this: *exists*
pretty much everybody: *why do i hear boss music?*
Cause it *IS* boss music lol
hahaha so funny dood epic comment LOOOOL !!!!!!
Oh no, Is the unstoppable boss
gotta go neunocide
Boss: *THIS ISN'T MY BOSS MUSIC*
I absolutely love the fact that the guitar riffs in the second half of the song are the same as the susie theme all the way back in the beginning, this is easily my favorite track of the game it's so good
The guitar sounds like it's crying.
Said it before, saying it again. What truly makes this fight is that even when you try to lose as hard as you can, you are still unable to stop what's going on. Things have spiraled outside even the players boundaries, and there is just so much rage involved that it defies your control. All you can do is watch, unable to intervene. It sets the tension up to make the ultimate resolution being a peaceful one all that more palpable. It's probably not a new trick in video game narratives, but it's still a good one.
So I wonder if the game softlocks or crashes if I make it so that Lancer's attacks instantly kill the player.
It perfectly fits the theme that's further supported by Chapter Two,
"Your Choices Don't Matter
Theirs Do"
Can’t wait for this to be used again to horrific effect
Even though Lancer had good intentions (wanting to keep the lighteners from fighting his father because he didn't want anyone to get hurt), he _did_ still betray his friends (his _only_ friends).
Meanwhile, Susie had _finally_ made friends with someone. This angry, withdrawn outcast who genuinely believed that no one would want to be her friend had actually managed to connect with someone. Then, that someone had her thrown into a dungeon.
It really pisses me off that so many people treat Susie as the villain in this situation. Lancer isn't exactly a saint, either, and I'd argue that Lancer's actions were worse.
Yeah, "pure little onion", I get it; he's a little kid and people want to treat him as though he Can Do No Wrong. Meanwhile, Susie is a big, scary dinosaur with an axe and a lot of anger issues.
So, you'd assume that she's the bad guy, right? After all, she's _scary_ and *mean!*
That's the sort of treatment that creates someone like Susie. The people who treat her as a villain without even considering that her actions might be understandable or even _justifiable_ in some cases are just like the people in Hometown whose judgement pushed Susie into being angry, withdrawn, and miserable.
Self-righteous pricks...
Henry Mclaughlin That’s what so much about this boss fight. Neither character is completely in the right in this situation. It’s like watching two of your best friends get into a brawl in the parking lot. You want to love and support both, know they both made mistakes, and can understand the motivations behind both. Being someone who’s been an outcast before, I could honestly empathize with Susie a little more but I still felt desperate to stop her.
Couldn’t agree more with this
It's a game mate
@@daniphofani3473 yep
Except... nobody thinks she's the villain... Stop inventing "the self-righteous pricks" in your head. Also insulting people does not make your arguements better.
Im calling it now, BY FAR the most UNDERRATED song in ALL of Deltarune Ch.1.
Not what underrated means.
Nah, I think The Holy is more underrated
0:56 why does the vocal sound thingy on the right side of the audio sound like sans voice this makes me curious
When you give Barney an axe
barney is a dinosaur
who just ran out of patience
kingdom fills with littered bodies
fresh decapitations
They get more powerful for each head they take
Is me
Such emotion you feel in these types of songs that really fit the situation when encountering Lancer. Toby is the man!!!
0:53
"And once again"
"She stays the same"
"That nasty brute"
"She'll never change"
"That what you want?"
"Then I'll oblige"
"Don't understand"
"Why I still try"
"(No-one would ever want to be my friend)"
This sounds like something out of Persona
Yo, what if The Dark World is just Susie's Palace.
@@hellofreeze3772 Mindblown.
@@hellofreeze3772 What if the "Knight" was actually Susie's Shadow?
What if the Persona series wishes it were as cool as Delta Rune? I don't see Morgana chewing chalk, do you?
@@chaosmiles07 Yeah, what if it wished instead of being secure in the knowledge that both it and Deltarune are excellent.
When the kid that wears shorts and a t-shirt in the winter meets the kid who wears a coat and snow pants in summer
Gooooooooooooooooooooood DAMN This is my new favorite Toby fox`s song Before is megalovania xd
It’s got “Your Best Nightmare” as a leitmotif.
Toby YOU SLY DOG!
I never noticed that until now...
Wait, where?
Also, nice profile lol
charmander88 Most of the intro, listen to the 3 repeating notes of your best nightmare's intro then listen to this again
@@__-jp3ry ohhhh
0:21 I love the little transition here
Look, we all know this song will get reused later on in the game. It sounds too heroic to only be used just in that sceene. Maybe when Susie fights the player.
When someone tells you you're banned from Free Ham Sandwich Day.
RIPOFF!
All I could think during this part is "Susie, who hurt you?
Alot of people.
@Jack Simard :(
Everyone
I did because I made her die in the fight
"Ah fuck, I can't believe you've done this"
This is one of the best songs I’ve ever heard from the undertale/deltarune series, and your extended version loops so well XD
Second favourite song in the game. I would tell you the first one, but its a bit...
Chaotic.
*I CAN DO ANYTHING*
Let me guess.......... vs lancer? (That was a joke)
why do i hear boss music
What about rude buster? : (
CHAOS CHAOS
So are we just going to ignore the fact “Your Best Nightmare”’s motif is in like half the beginning of the song? 0:06 - 0:22 - 0:38
yep. it be a coincidence. It is only three notes after all.
@@trashbeast Considering digital roots also has the same motif for Omega Flowey in it and the name itself being a pun on flower roots, I find that incredibly hard to believe. This seems purposeful. The motif seems to be associated with evil and violence. A more horrifying idea is that the “Your Best Nightmare” intro motif is not inherently Flowey’s, but something else…
@@conquestanddeath4406 I recently found that out and have no idea what it means or what it _could_ mean
THATS THE FUCKING PARADOX BATTLE THEME
So
Vs. Susie
But Susie is in your team
You aren't fighting Susie, the one doing that is Lancer
But you aren't seeing this from Lancer's point of view
So either this will be reused someday in which you do fight Susie, and thus it was named like this just to age well
Or the name of this want to leave some deep meaning, like the fact that the one in this battle that has the advantage, or the one that is the "Boss" was indeed Susie, as Lancer was in a disadvantage
A _moral_ one
Ill see you in like.. 4 years bro.
@@genoteh9706 Alright.
Susie being a boss later on is definitely a big possibility now that we know the story will have at least some branching aspects, shown in chapter 2. I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes some great remix of this and either something related to castletown, or something in the future. Regardless of how it treats my heart, it will sound incredible.
susie is the boss. she's the only one that can overpower the soul's voice. the only thing your soul can do to kill susie is purposely let her die
the player is actively fighting against susie, making decisions to try and stop her from hurting lancer, that's my interpretation anyway.