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    ❤️Deltarune Fangame Weird Route Vs. Susie!
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  • @TheAdvertisement
    @TheAdvertisement 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4046

    The idea of spreading your control to your "friends" in battle to force them on your side is terrifyingly evil I love it.

    • @redcap5343
      @redcap5343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      I always thought thats how a battle like this might go

    • @RedBone0212
      @RedBone0212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      YES

    • @1L0_Snowflakes
      @1L0_Snowflakes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      and thats the thing make it more interesting ...
      and hey do you got something i can buy ? (im just joking )

    • @noriomatsumoto9954
      @noriomatsumoto9954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It's just error sans thing

    • @RedBone0212
      @RedBone0212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@noriomatsumoto9954 thats what I was thinking

  • @christopherearth9714
    @christopherearth9714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1888

    "TURN AROUND AND RUN!"
    Lancer: "ok, then what's behind me?"
    "Thats... not what I meant."

    • @hamzainium
      @hamzainium 2 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      The only one who can combat Christopher moon.

    • @thedragondoge5284
      @thedragondoge5284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Classic Lancer

    • @ModernButSimple
      @ModernButSimple 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      No way..

    • @snowyvul
      @snowyvul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@hamzainium Soon we will obtain Christopher Sun, and all will be right in the world.

    • @theonewhoknocks382
      @theonewhoknocks382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      *Proceeds to kill lancer*

  • @thestonemason7413
    @thestonemason7413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +955

    The small detail of “Kris’s sword has been sharpened” instead of “Your sword has been sharpened”
    It symbolizes that you are not Kris, Kris is an alternate entity under your control

    • @richardgibson8403
      @richardgibson8403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      This however, kinda goes against the “Kris called for help” (snowgrave Spamton, ralsei and susie) and “you whispered noelle’s name” (snowgrave spamton, Noelle) thing

    • @gamerdomain6618
      @gamerdomain6618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      @@richardgibson8403
      No it doesn't. The sword belongs to Kris, not to the player.

    • @richardgibson8403
      @richardgibson8403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @Gamer Domain I think I got mixed up and thought they were saying it said “your sword” instead of what they said, pointing out that fact. In short: yeah I did a fucking stupid

    • @SwagSwagSenate
      @SwagSwagSenate ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@richardgibson8403 Hochi mama what a [low IQ] individual!!

    • @ibis03
      @ibis03 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​​@@richardgibson8403that thing happens only because we tell Kris to call Susie and Ralsei, but we call Noelle by ourselves. Not making Kris call Noelle and calling her by yourself instead is more effective, since Noelle somehow can hear specifically *us* (not just Kris), unlike Susie and Ralsei. We know that because Noelle mentioned several times (or just once, I don't really remember) that she heard someone's voice that told her to "proceed", and that voice wasn't Kris's

  • @justforlawlsandtrolls
    @justforlawlsandtrolls 2 ปีที่แล้ว +895

    Can I say, I love that the "Vs Susie" beatdrop doesn't kick in until you convert a member, it's a small touch that goes a long way

  • @TheAdvertisement
    @TheAdvertisement 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2054

    Ralsei's dead body gradually getting covered by snow over the course of the battle is really subtly disturbing.

  • @kin5922
    @kin5922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1357

    I love that the gameplay acted as a sort of update to the Vs. Fun Gang fangame, where the Fun Gang attacks similarly here to how Susie, Noelle, and Ralsei do. The attacks interacting with each other is such a cool feature.

    • @reaper7238
      @reaper7238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      The ending where you kill them also ends the same way as VS Fun Gang starts (Kris in a void-like space)

    • @StanislavSasin
      @StanislavSasin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@reaper7238 but the Kris in Vs fun gang is another , you know that KrisVsKris mod? There you fight off the actual Kris from Gun gang and when he is defeated he stands in that pose , accepting his fate

    • @theguyfr
      @theguyfr ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StanislavSasin THE GUN GANG.

    • @serbo_maps
      @serbo_maps 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Fun Gang
      You mean
      Lancers Fan Club.

    • @abaconhair
      @abaconhair 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is a prequel

  • @notaclass-d1822
    @notaclass-d1822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +427

    i love how it seems like kris is trying to hit the spare button whenever you hover over it

    • @kay-z9992
      @kay-z9992 ปีที่แล้ว +130

      I was just wondering why nobody brought it up. It seems to me more like they’re shaking it like-
      “Over here! Pay attention to this one! Do it, *please*!!”

    • @CODE-CHARA
      @CODE-CHARA ปีที่แล้ว +69

      i can imagine kris going
      " LET ME SPAREEEEEEEEEEEEE- "

    • @QSBraWQ
      @QSBraWQ ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I thought you pressed it but couldn't use, so you needed to hit a lot for it to work

    • @danielcraciun2589
      @danielcraciun2589 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@QSBraWQ same

    • @lucassollak1574
      @lucassollak1574 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      31:20 Sad... Susie becames a Sans

  • @Zack_Zander
    @Zack_Zander 2 ปีที่แล้ว +915

    Damn, realizing the bodies is slowly being covered with snow hits harder than I expect

    • @sonicsansic
      @sonicsansic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      for a while i thought they were turning into dust untile i saw someone else comment that they were being covered in snow

    • @yes6978
      @yes6978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      it really is snow grave

    • @markolan7809
      @markolan7809 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@yes6978 that joke was really cold

    • @rinzintube2295
      @rinzintube2295 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@markolan7809 you both have hearts of ice.

    • @ZizixxSamurai
      @ZizixxSamurai ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@rinzintube2295 Dude, chill.

  • @rainbow_vader
    @rainbow_vader 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    This is so well made. One small detail i haven't seen anyone else notice is when you pass over the "spare" option, it's *shaking.* It's almost like they're begging you to stop with what little control Kris has left... twisted

    • @shindoesnotdovids
      @shindoesnotdovids 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      It’s actually Kris fighting back, since they don’t want to kill their friends.

  • @kaderen8461
    @kaderen8461 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2607

    Remember the three that you can never have in a fan game all at once?
    -Interesting mechanics
    -good storyline
    -good english
    We found it

    • @kaio6308
      @kaio6308 2 ปีที่แล้ว +215

      Play deltatraveler

    • @papyrusgaming4820
      @papyrusgaming4820 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      TS! Underswap

    • @papyrusgaming4820
      @papyrusgaming4820 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@TheGrammarNazi123 Distrust 2: Cooler Edition

    • @Sparklynn69
      @Sparklynn69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@TheGrammarNazi123 Overtime

    • @H4MM3R3D
      @H4MM3R3D 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheGrammarNazi123 maybe

  • @RandomUser-dp9yk
    @RandomUser-dp9yk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +909

    0:01 Manipulation Ending
    14:50 Murderer Ending
    28:12 Spare / Killed Ending

    • @sakurayuri3396
      @sakurayuri3396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      People who dont know what deltarune is (LIKKE ME Q.Q): Why is that route happening

    • @RandomUser-dp9yk
      @RandomUser-dp9yk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@sakurayuri3396 true lol

    • @hibro9149
      @hibro9149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@sakurayuri3396 its maybe an mod but can you see the string in manipulation ending i think it player string like deltarune og version weird ending you control other to proceed an undertale genocide route

    • @sakurayuri3396
      @sakurayuri3396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@hibro9149 oh interesting

    • @gabbychan6609
      @gabbychan6609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@sakurayuri3396 basically once you get Noelle
      in your party you can as the player give her orders to spam her ice attack a merciless freeze everyone since shes in your party she has no choice but to obey even if it means breaking puzzle in the need to proceed defeating enemies to proceed getting stronger together even when kris is knocked out and downed She can in fact still hear a creepy voice guiding her actions she also is forced into casting a spell she doesn't know known as snowgrave 200% tp fatal damage you must obtain a ring (noelles weapon type) that constantly hurts her hp and reduces ice attack cost making 200 100 at this routes end she kills berdly with snow grave and can't handle this anymore and decides to leave

  • @runiqe
    @runiqe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +573

    Honestly, one of the better fan-made weird route games.

  • @epilepsy1179
    @epilepsy1179 2 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    "A check? Did you forget about me?"
    Emotional Damage

    • @abrahamnieves2554
      @abrahamnieves2554 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nice

    • @Grignr
      @Grignr หลายเดือนก่อน

      “Susie donned the SHADOW MANTLE protecting her from physical damage.” NOT EMOTIONAL DAMAGE LOL!

  • @victortran4561
    @victortran4561 ปีที่แล้ว +461

    It's nice how in the second ending, Kris kneels in respect for the trio. Like an honorable knight, they kneel in respect to a worthy opponent.

    • @Ambipie
      @Ambipie ปีที่แล้ว +79

      And to respect the dead, and refuse to move for You.

    • @k0n3k0n3k0
      @k0n3k0n3k0 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      I think they just did that to watch and make sure susie gets covered by the snow so they can leave an add more of a psychotic feeling to it or disturbing

    • @MATCHAPUDDIN
      @MATCHAPUDDIN 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      its not that deep @@k0n3k0n3k0

    • @TheRepublicOfDixionconderoga
      @TheRepublicOfDixionconderoga 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      They do it to watch Susie get covered in snow

  • @hey_dedu6951
    @hey_dedu6951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +510

    I would have liked to see the scene of Kris lying on the ground instead of just seeing the animation of game over, even so it is somewhat macabre to see the bodies of susie, ralsei and noelle on the ground without life

    • @justaperson9504
      @justaperson9504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      maybe is like susie kills him but we can't see what's happen next because kris is now leave and he return back but now we can't control him or see what he see.

    • @hey_dedu6951
      @hey_dedu6951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@justaperson9504 yeeees

    • @5ucket
      @5ucket 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@justaperson9504 kris uses they/them

    • @bingwen469
      @bingwen469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@5ucket unless the official deltarune page says so, don't care.

    • @FunnySkeleton101
      @FunnySkeleton101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@bingwen469 Toby said so

  • @Error-ul5zw
    @Error-ul5zw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +248

    YO THIS IS SO GOOD, I love the idea of the whispering being like proceed for Noelle on the snowgrave route and I really like how the projectiles interact with each other! Great deltarune fangame, I'll have to say that it is definitely my favourite

  • @andiesbasement549
    @andiesbasement549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    The way Ralsei *AND* Noelle *AND* Susie slowly got buried by the snow made that more depressing.

    • @Victor-056
      @Victor-056 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not to mention that Kris never left Susie's side, even as the scene faded to the title.
      It really shows Kris' Bond with Susie, that Kris does not leave her side once the Player no longer had control.

    • @andiesbasement549
      @andiesbasement549 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Victor-056 big true.

    • @Victor-056
      @Victor-056 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@andiesbasement549 Fun fact, Chapter 2 heavily implies through 'correct' dialogue that Kris has a Crush on Susie.

    • @Victor-056
      @Victor-056 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @mahoushoujoKris was heavily implied to have been actively seeking out Susie long before the Player took control of Kris in chapter one. Noelle even remarks on it... And is slightly jealous.
      And in Chapter 2, the "Correct Choice" at "Who (Kris) takes to the Festival" is _Susie._ How do we know? Read Susie's reaction.
      When picking any _other_ choice but Susie, Kris is stated by Susie to "Look Confused" in a snarky manner... Yet when Kris picks _Susie,_ she looks utterly dumbfounded and is slightly blushing... Implying Kris said it with Conviction and without any sign of Confusion.
      The second and most prominent example... Is through the "Flavor Teas". Due to Kris being fairly apathetic to most emotions, the healing rate is very low for the "Own Teas"... Except for Susie, who provides the standard 120+ Health... Which for Kris, puts the bond with Susie, to be like Noelle's.
      Also, once again, party members provide what Kris is feeling upon drinking the Teas. Kris never really reacts to any of the Teas... Aside from Susie's... Which has Ralsei state "[Kris] seems into it"... While Susie is screaming at Kris to "STOP LOOKING AT ME!", implying Kris is giving her a Seductive look.
      Also, in Chapter one, against the Chaos King, Kris, without _any_ prompting from the Player, _immediately_ stepped in to protect Susie from his attack... And in Chapter two, Kris can ask for a hug from Susie, who gets completely flustered.
      The details are there. They're just hidden behind the "Correct Choices" and can be easily missed.

    • @SableJem
      @SableJem ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Victor-056 What point in the game is the Ferris section at Where Susie gets dumbfounded by the Decision? Sorry,I just forgot.

  • @pineappleudh6561
    @pineappleudh6561 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Do love how the attacks work.
    From what I can gather...
    Susie has normal attacks
    If the axes are hit by Noelle's attacks then they freeze in place and shatter into Noelle attacks, the spears (?) just explode into Noelle attacks instead of Susie attacks.
    If hit by Ralsei's fire attacks then the axe will trail Ralsei fire projectiles and the spear (?) will explode into them.
    Ralsei's fire does destroy Noelle's ice and vice versa.
    Ralsei's heals are frozen and shattered by Noelle's ice attacks like the axes.
    It's just cool.

  • @faithg5250
    @faithg5250 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    I like how even when Ralsei was under your control, he only healed and spared. It seems in character for him.

    • @Ugh718
      @Ugh718 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I mean he's a pacifist so it makes sense lol.
      Even when he was fighting WITH Susie and(what's her name Noelle lol)he STILL occasionally heals u,EVEN when u're ACTIVELY hitting him in order to kill him.
      Also seeing Ralsei dead on the ground genuinely broke my heart;(.
      I mean I was fine with him getting converted,as he still gets to live,but seeing him dead...He's my favorite character,so it hit me hard...If I was Kris in that battle I would've hugged him and pet him instead of killing him XD(besides,he's a pacifist so he wouldn't kill me for doing so,unlike Susie lol).
      I also kinda found it hilarious how easy it was to convert Ralsei as opposed to Noelle and Susie. Ralsei was just like"Yes...Must obey...",and just joined ur team just like that,while Noelle put up a BIT more of a fight,and Susie,of course,the most,but fluffy little goat bro didn't even TRY to resist XD. Idk why but I just find that hilarious lol(edit:I have come to realize that it was because he was so low on hp. I feel so bad that he had to get beat up to join ur team... Or maybe he didn't maybe u can just save up tp and use the other stronger converting ability on him idk lol. I'd do that instead of hurting fluffy little goat bro and Noelle lol;) )

    • @sens1395
      @sens1395 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ugh718 it bothers me ralsei has a rather strong will

    • @C____1-2
      @C____1-2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@Ugh718It'd be more in character if Noelle was the first one to go, seeing as she has the lowest point of achieving freedom or even having it. Ralsei seems to just be letting you do that, Just not overboard.

  • @billybob3064
    @billybob3064 2 ปีที่แล้ว +391

    I personally think that there should be more emotion in the dialog and overall more dialog but I like the idea of the player being able to control people like puppets also that howl was interesting.
    Edit: Plus they should have reacted more to Ralsei dying they were just like "oh Ralsei just got stabbed and fucking died oh no... anyway"

    • @edentague8141
      @edentague8141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      uh- Kris... wasn't the one controling, as seen in ending 3 and as seen when Kris has the strings over him.
      Kris is just a puppet too.

    • @thevioletskull8158
      @thevioletskull8158 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed

    • @billybob3064
      @billybob3064 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@edentague8141 Sorry forgot about that I fixed it.

    • @ohwoah4324
      @ohwoah4324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      i know man, ralsei fucking DIES and they're all slightly perturbed about it

    • @5ucket
      @5ucket 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@edentague8141 kris uses they/them pronouns

  • @kingmunro7248
    @kingmunro7248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +599

    Knowing that Kris is never truly in control of his actions, the endings hit different as it was us the player who drove him to do these atrocities

    • @michaloid8351
      @michaloid8351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      In reality when you wait too long on the spare button, Kris is gonna press it himself. Meaning he's trying to fight the player, not to mention every turn starts with the spare button selected, making the player sometimes misclick on what they want to do.

    • @aperson6637
      @aperson6637 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@michaloid8351 oh

    • @DangleBlampy
      @DangleBlampy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "he, his"

    • @YourFriendlyShapeShifterFriend
      @YourFriendlyShapeShifterFriend 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@michaloid8351 omg-

    • @5ucket
      @5ucket 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      hey friendly reminder that kris canonly uses they/them

  • @Dalv186
    @Dalv186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +535

    I really like the combined attacks mechanic here. Like if noelle hits susie's attack the axe freezes and explodes.
    Edit: i am sorry but what? 120 likes in a single day? And no replies? Sure.

    • @lotematu2812
      @lotematu2812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And I am here to ruin the streak ^^

    • @lotematu2812
      @lotematu2812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This was my soul purpose now I can die Peacefully
      (This is a joke do not take me seriously)

    • @Chara_Dremmurr
      @Chara_Dremmurr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Make it 150 likes.

    • @ambersioux
      @ambersioux 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Chara_Dremmurr your wish is granted

    • @GatesOfAvalon1
      @GatesOfAvalon1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's pretty cool, it's like they are fighting together

  • @letsalllovelean478
    @letsalllovelean478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +331

    Despite the dialog being awkward, it’s nonetheless a great fan game! I like the concept of seeing Susie go mad

    • @tinygrub1194
      @tinygrub1194 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Slightly messed up but ok

    • @Seanana_
      @Seanana_ ปีที่แล้ว +9

      aawkward dialogue is literally undertales thing....

    • @letsalllovelean478
      @letsalllovelean478 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@Seanana_ That's because it's intentionally awkward for comedic effect. This situation is different.

    • @Seanana_
      @Seanana_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@letsalllovelean478 if you say so

    • @terrizoop3739
      @terrizoop3739 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Seanana_ I mean, undertale doesn’t have awkward dialogue when it comes to serious moments either. Like with Asgore or, hell, Omega Flowey

  • @strangerdanger7803
    @strangerdanger7803 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    The bodies slowly being covered by snow is one of the most brutal things I have seen in a game to date. Sure ripping someone in half is gruesome and all, but the slow sinking sensation of seeing a body covered slowly by snow just solidifies the fact they are GONE.

  • @daltonwatson6820
    @daltonwatson6820 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Fun fact
    At here 27:20 ending 2 ends at the beginning of vs the fun gang

  • @kriscrimetm6961
    @kriscrimetm6961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    You know what could've been sad? Since that mantle only works when you kill someone, Noelle, who was dying, offered Susie to kill her so she could have a chance to kill Kris

    • @LouX453
      @LouX453 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What does this mantle do ?

    • @vimies5746
      @vimies5746 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      She wanted to take it off so she could give it to noelle

  • @SkeletonSlacker
    @SkeletonSlacker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Susie actually did it she did the sans on us

  • @InkKBird18
    @InkKBird18 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Kris is… probably crying in pain right now… he never wanted this… he doesn’t want the player control him… or wanted to kill someone…

  • @elpatosad5757
    @elpatosad5757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    20:57 "Attack her again, I DOUBLE dare you"
    Kris: Don't need to ask me twice

    • @quicheramene1860
      @quicheramene1860 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Susie: NO NOT HER... YOU SON OF B-
      Kris aka player: What wrong susie couldn't protect your GF
      Actual Kris: *why were still here just to suffer*

  • @EbonyBate-tk8mh
    @EbonyBate-tk8mh ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Everything about this mod is great. One of my favourites is how the music changes. Before Ralsei and Noelle show up, the intro to vs. Susie plays. During the manipulation ending, allowed version of the song plays and the murdering ending is the same but way deeper. Incredible.

  • @kaviarsmith4018
    @kaviarsmith4018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I love how when your on the spare button kris fights the players control and presses it

    • @iliketosaytruecomments3326
      @iliketosaytruecomments3326 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Also if do nothing kris auto presses the button like kris is fighting control

  • @francoalmiron5107
    @francoalmiron5107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +271

    I would love to see more games like this, just one some original characters for once.

    • @rainbowspongebob
      @rainbowspongebob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wish this one had original characters but it still works

  • @SpinningOmoriPlushie
    @SpinningOmoriPlushie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    Well that game seems cool but I think dialogues need more emotions

    • @ggucarkardesler7100
      @ggucarkardesler7100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes

    • @ggucarkardesler7100
      @ggucarkardesler7100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      l think you true

    • @ohwoah4324
      @ohwoah4324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      yeah ralsei dies and they're all like "this is quite unfortunate"

    • @paulvallee6600
      @paulvallee6600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Definitely, feels weird for Ralsei and Noelle to have basically no reaction for Susie having to kill off Kris in the third ending.

    • @ajdndbdjbdj
      @ajdndbdjbdj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah you right but it's just a fan made , the real work is on the way..........and it gonna take a while

  • @Christian-qn7ve
    @Christian-qn7ve 2 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    I wonder if in ch3 or in a future chapter we will be able to somehow break the choices don't matter rule and use Kris to directly cause pain, rather than using someone else to do it for us ( _cough_ _cough_ Noelle _cough_ ) and "unlock" Kris' true power like how Noelle unlocked snowgrave in ch2, at the cost of Burghley

    • @BENBOIONYT
      @BENBOIONYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wanna use TeM At the price of Snakington

    • @FunnySkeleton101
      @FunnySkeleton101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Probably not because it’s a WEIRD route not a GENOCIDE route

    • @boomchannel441
      @boomchannel441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      that could happen in the last chapter's Wierd Route with Kris killing Susie

    • @aly0hin
      @aly0hin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kris open X-Slash

    • @user-wr7jq6bi8w
      @user-wr7jq6bi8w ปีที่แล้ว

      burghley... :/

  • @cryolitegem
    @cryolitegem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Well it’s clear what Noelle has been doing judging from that health

    • @NOOB4306i
      @NOOB4306i ปีที่แล้ว +2

      LMFAOOOOO

  • @zeo4481
    @zeo4481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Best thing about this fan game Kris emidiately starts the turn on SPARE and if we - the players do nothing the 3rd ending is triggered automatically.
    No other fan-game has this level of understanding of the source material only UT/DR fan games(mostly)

  • @IceBlueStarCat
    @IceBlueStarCat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The fact they got Kris’s hairstyle is cool yet terrifying

    • @clairestarr1132
      @clairestarr1132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      EMO NOELLE. EMO NOELLE.

    • @instaplayjace2722
      @instaplayjace2722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      EMO LANCER
      EMO LANCER

    • @overheavendio5665
      @overheavendio5665 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      NO PLEASE, I DONT WANNA BE EMO, NO- NOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • @waffler-yz3gw
      @waffler-yz3gw ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what are you talking abt thats just their sprites

  • @Umbr0
    @Umbr0 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The fact the attacks can all mingle and mix on touch and interaction is so damn cool.

  • @jalextheinktoon
    @jalextheinktoon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    12:50
    Oh my god, their bangs became like Kris's bangs after Kris brainwashed them! 😯 That's why Ralsei had bangs all of a sudden, Kris gave him and Noelle bangs that resemble THEIR OWN bangs! That is such an interesting detail!

  • @F4T4L3RR0R
    @F4T4L3RR0R 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Lets puppet with the lives of the damned.
    - -Kris- - Y O U.

  • @jipjap7297
    @jipjap7297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Not gonna lie ending 1 is very underwhelming. It feels really cheesy and anti climatic, especially with how you can mess up the dialogue and have it just be silly since it drags you along with it, as shown in the footage.
    Ending two, however, feels like you've actually done something extremely wrong. It genuinely feels unnerving after killing a party member, especially with snow building onto them. And Kris at the end just sitting there, contemplating what you've made them done as they are shrouded in darkness is not only actually an ending, but is also a genuinely horrifying moment that let's you think about what just happened.

  • @spamtongspamton4842
    @spamtongspamton4842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    THIS WAS A SMART IDEA! especially the genocide ending! first u have to kill ralsei since he is weak against physical.. then you have to kill noelle because krises blade is covered with darkness from ralsei and noelle is weak against darkness attacks lastly, take down susie since she is wearing the shadow cloak and light is strong against shadow! this is genius!

  • @EndermanPierce
    @EndermanPierce ปีที่แล้ว +15

    the way the attacks interact and combine with each other is super unique, fanmade battles like these are impressive enough to be official!

  • @ValueNetwork
    @ValueNetwork 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    This is a really cool concept. The dialogue and pacing is the only weak point but the battles themselves were really good.

  • @MisterFyreNeo
    @MisterFyreNeo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    27:21 This fangame is now the prequel to the Vs. The Fun Gang fangame.

  • @austintherobloxgamer123
    @austintherobloxgamer123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    ''my friends aren't yours to control!''
    * targets ralsei *

  • @lordmega6314
    @lordmega6314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    19:10 Oh no, Ralsie's been Yamcha'ed.

  • @flyingstonemon3564
    @flyingstonemon3564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "I will only fight for my friends!"
    Ike would be proud of her

  • @errorcringyname4044
    @errorcringyname4044 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The way the attacks interact is amazing

  • @eia24
    @eia24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Did anyone else notice that after Ralsei and Noelle are part of your control, their hairstyle changes to Kris's?

  • @deeznuts-cd8sq
    @deeznuts-cd8sq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    this radiates creepypasta vibes

    • @ElectricMan3444
      @ElectricMan3444 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I KNOW AND ITS MAKES ME SAD AND THERE ARE UNDERTALE EVIL ROUTE CREEYPASTA ON TH-cam I NEED TO STOP WATCHING THIS OR MY HEART WILL BREAK I KNOW KRIS WOULD NOT DO THIS

    • @M0mazosMissy
      @M0mazosMissy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ElectricMan3444 In fact... Kris wouldn't do it...
      *But would you?*

    • @ElectricMan3444
      @ElectricMan3444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@M0mazosMissy Haha nice try!!! But no!! I NEVER DONE SNOWGRAVE!!!! B-But WHAT HAPPENS IF I DO IT?? I know it’s just a video game BUT I CANT DO THAT TO NOELLE SO NO I WONT AND I NEVER WILL FULLY COMPLETE IT

    • @FunnySkeleton101
      @FunnySkeleton101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ElectricMan3444 bruh calm down

    • @ElectricMan3444
      @ElectricMan3444 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FunnySkeleton101 I AM COMPLETELY CALM!!!! And also I love your Birdly Profile Picture!!!

  • @ConeSnows
    @ConeSnows ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Deltarune is dark. Because you the player are taking over everyone's lives like Kris does not want to do certain things that you force Kris to do. It explains why Kris becomes edgy and throws us (the heart which is us) inside a cage. Kris wants to live her own life but then we take over her again and again. Instead of making our own life in the game. The game forces us to take over Kris life which is sad when you think about it

  • @Ponera-Sama
    @Ponera-Sama 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    *"PROCEED"*
    *"JOIN"*
    *"FIGHT"*
    *"MERCY"*
    *How little do you know...*
    *There is no one in this world*
    *Whose choices could matter*
    *You may reap your victory*
    *You may end the ROARING*
    *But there is another*
    *Who is neither MONSTER nor HUMAN*
    *Neither LIGHT nor DARK*
    *And when they arrive*
    *All will fall to FEAR*

    • @deletemychannelsomeone
      @deletemychannelsomeone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sussy baka

    • @Ponera-Sama
      @Ponera-Sama 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      WHEN PINK IS SUS‼️

    • @Ponera-Sama
      @Ponera-Sama 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll give you a hint: This is talking about after the Knight is defeated

    • @genarorios5055
      @genarorios5055 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Player : If the world itself refuses to acknowledge my existence and denies my freedom, then I shall force my will onto these lowly beings.
      *You all will entertain me! ahahaha*

  • @workderpidly6403
    @workderpidly6403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This may sound obvious or plain but I just want to say my opinion
    I think the way that kris would spread control to others (and what the rest of the fun gang would see behind kris) would be many big hands each holding a tower with those red and black strings each floating a bit down before arching into the sky to find their victim and wrap around every limb of their body to fully take control, each person having 2 towers attached and thus 2 hands using those towers. Everytime a new victim is gained a new set of hands and towers would slowly start to fade into reality as the victim becomes more and more submissive, the strings would have a mind of their own, so if a new mod related to this one where you instead play as Susie against kris, you would see the swarm of hands and towers and VERY much, strings, all floating in the air behind kris to show that kris ACTUALLY took over the whole town,if kris starts gaining control over a team mate like ralsei or noelle, strings would circle in the air above them with the following strings going up to symbolize a predator stalking its prey, while playing as Susie, you would need to attack these strings to keep them from connecting on the next turn.
    Keep in mind this is just my idea of how they would look like, okay bye!

  • @loxxedinabox
    @loxxedinabox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This is what’s making me terrified of the next chapter, you may have to corrupt your friends to do your bidding, and killing Lancer bro I could never ☹️

    • @ajdndbdjbdj
      @ajdndbdjbdj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nobody knows what in Toby's mind.....i hope nobody from the party die 😟

    • @KittyKatty999
      @KittyKatty999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your choices *DO* matter. Just don't do the Weird Routes, and nobody will die.

    • @sandsnake3896
      @sandsnake3896 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ajdndbdjbdj nah someone will die

    • @ajdndbdjbdj
      @ajdndbdjbdj ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sandsnake3896 agreed , it's the angel of the prophecy
      You wouldn't get it now

    • @armandomartinez3524
      @armandomartinez3524 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *I don't wanna kill Lancer,*
      *He's a lil guy-*

  • @katarzynaostrowska1644
    @katarzynaostrowska1644 2 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    That ending where susie killed Kris actually was the good ending because Kris himself doesn't own a soul

    • @usermcskull4713
      @usermcskull4713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      *themself
      Kris goes by they/them pronouns

    • @sleyking123
      @sleyking123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@usermcskull4713 we dont care

    • @midnightshifted
      @midnightshifted 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@sleyking123 you may not, but many people do.

    • @alterry4139
      @alterry4139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@midnightshifted yeah, hell, toby especially cares about kris’s pronouns.

    • @MuffinManWasTaken
      @MuffinManWasTaken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@usermcskull4713 also kris is a fictional character and does not have pronouns he is a guy

  • @azzyhasachannel4774
    @azzyhasachannel4774 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I Love How ending 2 is versus fan gang

  • @C____1-2
    @C____1-2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Honestly, this Fangame could've been tons better if it had a second phase. Susie, truly honestly has free will. She doesn't have to struggle to fight against you, because she has the belief that she doesn't need anyone else, she'd come into realization, that she doesn't need anyone else, just like she has before. She can make her own choices, and she'd try anything to stop you from taking that away from her. Honestly, if I were to make suggestions to the creator, i'd say that she needs to have a second phase, her realizing that nobody else has what she has, and that basically nobody else is trying their hardest to achieve it. I could just imagine her Axe beginning to get that light green glow from when she was in the bad guy team, (with lancer) and her shoeing off her teeth with her deadly stance. Honestly, this fangame puts all that to shame, and thats the real shame.

  • @user-sn1sy5sq9i
    @user-sn1sy5sq9i 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This animation AU is so wonderful❢I was so impressed with the quality that I couldn't believe it was AU!!!

  • @mooncake8059
    @mooncake8059 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    For a fan game, this is extremely good, so good that it would probably be a chapter in the real game!

  • @BaygelsOrSomething
    @BaygelsOrSomething 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Everyone: literally dead
    Susie: _Wanna play some touhou?_

  • @Staticblox
    @Staticblox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The sense of bloodlust fulls you with *annihilation*

  • @KapitanKaos
    @KapitanKaos ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like how the attacks are not exaggerated or over the top like in other fangames

  • @bobithebober
    @bobithebober 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Controller Ending
    Frozen/Genocide Ending
    And...Mercy Ending

  • @AnonCreator228
    @AnonCreator228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    So the genocide ending is prequel to "VS Fun Gang" fight.
    That's interesting

    • @ElectricMan3444
      @ElectricMan3444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT ENDING IS THE CANNON ENDING?? AND WHY DOES KRIS LOOK SO DIFFERENT IN THE OTHER GAME?? AND WHY IS KRIS DOING THIS?? AND IM ABOUT TO CRY And no matter what you do in the other fan game the ending the same I’m sad I want there to be happy ending

    • @andriil7635
      @andriil7635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ElectricMan3444 isn't kris...

    • @ElectricMan3444
      @ElectricMan3444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andriil7635 Wait then who is it?? In that game it said his name was Magem?? So does this mean Kris changed into Magem?? Or is it just easier egg I so confused but thanks your for information!!!

    • @andriil7635
      @andriil7635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@ElectricMan3444 You. You are controlling Kris all the time. Blaming another entity would be the same as when Chara was blamed for the genocidal route. You're the one who's pushing the buttons all the time
      , Nobody else, *The Player* It's the real killer, As Spamtom said, Kris it's just a puppet

    • @ElectricMan3444
      @ElectricMan3444 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andriil7635 I understand we’ll worry not I not done Snowgrave nor have I played this Fan game but now I feel sad I WANT TO PLAY DELTARUNE BUT I NOT WANT TO FORCE KRIS TO DO SOMETHING HE NOT WANT TO DO!!! AND NOW ALL THIS MAKES ME WONDER What would Kris do and say if he had control??

  • @infinityheart_tm9270
    @infinityheart_tm9270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    31:21
    She really just went in for the Raging Demon didn’t she

    • @boop7784
      @boop7784 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just stands like Akura over Kris' dead body

  • @moomoo2918
    @moomoo2918 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    either ralsei and noelle just didn't care in the third ending or they didn't see susie doing it yet and didn't have time tor react and are stunned afterwards

  • @gneu1527
    @gneu1527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Knowing that this may happen in Snowgrave, it makes the route worser than genocide in undertale. Snowgrave really creeped me out in ch2.

  • @MadWinte
    @MadWinte 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    i like aamakuruu games, the games where choices isn't matter.

  • @shatteredrubyheart9082
    @shatteredrubyheart9082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I Actually love this it is amazingly well done honestly this would be a great route for the game to have seeing is how everyone does have some type of force that tells them what to do even if they don't know it which is coding of course cause it is a game but the main character Kris/the player has much more control then they do so the player being some type of puppeteer is a genius idea that is honestly better then Snowgrave cause this just feels right to me can't explain it

    • @cryotek3624
      @cryotek3624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What if for the next weird route instead of having toriel frying napstablook or undyne. The player manipulates asgore and toriel to get back together as a sort of messed up pacifist route type of ending.

  • @IzTagz
    @IzTagz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hardly like videos, THIS WAS AWSOME! AND THE SPARE ENDING- JEEZ. I ALSO LOVE THE NEW SPRITES!

  • @_Tetragrammaton_
    @_Tetragrammaton_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Such a cool mod. Their attacks interact with each other.

  • @noahbradford5342
    @noahbradford5342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Soul:Don't f*ck with me i got the power of friendship and sword art on line on my side!
    Susie:That's not friendship!
    Soul:AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

  • @garrothhogonokami
    @garrothhogonokami 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hooollllllyyyyyy…
    The second one is what got me POOR SUSIE
    SHE WAS HECKING SMILING AND BLEEDING
    Ending 3 AAAHHHH SHE’S CRYING.
    SUSIE I WANNA HUG YOU FRIG

  • @fighttheb8500
    @fighttheb8500 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the way the fight gets easier just shows the hopelessness timeline really is, ik thats regular info but its showed here really well

  • @youtubebobguy
    @youtubebobguy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    13:27 bro I laughed when she said that.

  • @cheystar
    @cheystar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Honestly for me the manipulative endings creeped me out the most, I’m not sure why but that’s the one that I got really freaked out and had a sick feeling in my stomach at, especially the dialogue that was implying them as puppets… really well done!

  • @luxion8376
    @luxion8376 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Kris isn’t the main character , Susie is . Kris is the sidekick that has severe troubles and gets corrupted to become the antagonist !

  • @GFCOLCQuote
    @GFCOLCQuote 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I honestly like the Betray kill. It's the same as a Sans route, aka you are killed for sparing, but... there's so much more meaning behind it.
    She doesn't want to do this... but she has to.
    This might be the one moment you got control back... and she has to take it.
    You'll understand.

    • @LordZanas
      @LordZanas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And, I did understand.

  • @PhoePhoeLovesAke
    @PhoePhoeLovesAke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love how even after ralsei dies noelle still respexmcts kris's pronouns

  • @loonarewx5749
    @loonarewx5749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    ahh finally a good ending- ah......
    I'm glad this is fanmade

  • @ggucarkardesler7100
    @ggucarkardesler7100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    End 2 is THE FUN GANG!

    • @AktATK
      @AktATK  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah I think that too but we might be wrong

    • @ggucarkardesler7100
      @ggucarkardesler7100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@AktATK You're right, we can't decide for sure.

    • @ElectricMan3444
      @ElectricMan3444 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Someone should connect both ending to the start and see if it matches!! And if it does, does this mean this is what happened before the Vs fun gang??

  • @ItssPeachy
    @ItssPeachy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I get that 12:49 is supposed to be unsettling and all, but ralsei with hair covering his eyes is just an adorable sprite all around.

  • @SpinalWall16589
    @SpinalWall16589 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ending 1: Taking control
    Ending 2: Merciless Slaughter
    Ending 3: Resistance

  • @Abstract007
    @Abstract007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ending 2 is brutal.

  • @cryotek3624
    @cryotek3624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Hmm I noticed snowgrave in noelles attacks does that mean we can freeze susie too?

    • @AktATK
      @AktATK  2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Require 200 TP

    • @picoultimate7707
      @picoultimate7707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@AktATK Which makes it impossible by normal means unless the ThornRing is equipped to her.

    • @alsartsavience3512
      @alsartsavience3512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@picoultimate7707 I guess it's only there as a neat detail to include.

    • @nico_afton4984
      @nico_afton4984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@AktATK she lost the ring of thorns? I mean it would be funny seeing her use it against you when you try using it against Susie.

    • @ter157ian8
      @ter157ian8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I have gone through the files of the mod and it appears that the snow grave spell was added not as a functioning spell but as a display. Even if TP can reach above 100 MAX or if the spell cost is decreased by file editing means, I don't think something would happen, or it would just crash the mod.

  • @snuffow.1218
    @snuffow.1218 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Attack her again. I DOUBLE dare you."
    "ok lol"

  • @CHA0T1CCHA0S
    @CHA0T1CCHA0S ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NAH THE WAY SUSIE PRETTY MUCH SAID SAID “NO NOT NOELLE” BROKE MY HEART LIKE WHYYYYYYY (dang this thing is developed well

  • @cartoonrams
    @cartoonrams 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the second ending is the precel to another mod called “Vs The Fun Gang” because that scene is how the mod started in the first place

  • @cheburek_alegarhov
    @cheburek_alegarhov 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    this is very cool made, i would like to see this as an actual genocide route

  • @catticus6637
    @catticus6637 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    tbh i feel like if this fight did exist thered be some epic rendition of vs. susie playing

  • @WillieManga
    @WillieManga 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You really make me want the "hero" to lose. I don't know why but that makes it even more compelling to me. It's pretty f'd up seeing the snow cover them slowly, and worse, since monsters completely disintegrate upon death, this means the monsters are still conscious, but in perpetual pain.

  • @ANTH4RAX
    @ANTH4RAX ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don’t know why but at first I thought Susie got intimidated by Kris reading a manual.

  • @Thorbrine
    @Thorbrine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    i like the first ending the most out of all of the three
    its so creppy and evil i love it

  • @ahmetyagizkaratop7176
    @ahmetyagizkaratop7176 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i love that the snow on ralsei did the dead griffin pose

  • @janhobson6904
    @janhobson6904 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A world in deltarune where everyone is under your control.
    JUST IMAGINE THE DND CAMPAIGNS! Berdly would be both proud and terrified about the fact that his world is made out of DND campaigns and video games wouldn’t he.

  • @whotftookthuurs
    @whotftookthuurs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    OH
    IT'S A PREQUEL TO VS. THE FUN GANG

  • @brandyt890
    @brandyt890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Interesting battle, I think the dialogue could use some work though.

  • @omegaplumsavetf2112
    @omegaplumsavetf2112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought that you could snowgrave Susie as that was an option in the magic/act menus for noele but it was not an ending. Also for those wondering where I saw the snowgrave action it is at 7:55

  • @AlmondTheGuy
    @AlmondTheGuy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i just realised, throughout the entire battle they constantly call kris They or them, but never by their actual name. they could be referring to the SOUL or the strings attached to kris in the manipulation ending. Also, the fact how kris or "They" are referring to ralsei and noelle as the antlered one or the fluffy prince shows that we are in full control now. Heck, we see this with X-Stab and X-HolyStab, both abilities gained from our full control. Another thing, Noelle could of had completely stopped us with snowgrave, but she didn't have access to tp, or the thorn ring im guessing, so she never could've cast it in the first place. They never refer to getting downed as getting downed, since its much more than that. Using X-Stab and X-HolyStab, we literally KILL them. In the murderer route, we literally watch susie, ralsei, and noelle be buried in the snow. a literal snow grave. can't tell if this was intentional or not. Thing is, we see THE VESSEL over kris in the murder route, what if THE VESSEL is the true controller? it could explain why we get THE VESSELS creator name in the saves after saving over kris'. We are the SOUL. The SOUL is THE VESSEL.