It's fun to watch your discovery exploration process as you dive into these old motors. I have a 1952 Evinrude Lightwin that I picked up in desperation at the start of COVID because outboards of any kind were pretty hard to find down in Florida at the time and I absolutely needed one when our old outboard pooped out on us. I was fascinated by it and when I got it running and cleaned up inside of all the salt plugging the galleries and the carb rebuilt with a kit that replaced the original cork float plus an all new prop it did really well. We used it as our daily driver for a couple of years until it plugged up again and I didn't want to go through all the trouble of breaking head bolts again to clean it out a second time. So I replaced it with a 2.3hp Honda. That old Evinrude really turned heads and was a conversation starter almost every day at the dinghy dock.
glad you are enjoying the tour of old motors hahah, what a great comment, the Lightwin motors look so cool, I love all the old stuff and I didn’t really know how cool it was before starting this little project. What ever happened to the Lightwin? Perhaps time to dig it out and clean it up again? Come on over to the barn!
Have you considered adding the motor make / model / year to your titles? Might be helpful for anyone searching for info on these old motors. I really enjoy your videos and am looking forward to the boat tests!
Great point, my titles are not very good for searching, I think I will take your advice and switch them. I need to get my whiteboard updated with accurate info and do a whiteboard tour as well. Thank you very much for the comment and feedback, glad you are enjoying the videos.
Hahaha, I hear ya, I like the names too. I plan to keep the silly names for sure, but the whole “Part 9b” is confusing so I need to come up with a nomenclature that makes it easy to understand but is searchable… I am working on some ideas, at least TH-cam makes it easy to change as often as I want
Its fun to look at the different approaches that the outboard manufacturers of old used to address controls on these old motors. Primer instead of choke: about 50 years ahead of its time. The cable system may have been inspired by bicycle controls. It may be simpler and have less play than the Johnson / Evinrude approach with gears and levers.
It definitely looks like it was inspired by bicycle/dirtbike type controls, same little cable end, etc. I have to tell you, I blasted it with WD-40 then wiped off the excess dirt coming out everywhere, then I lubed it with mystery oil and wiped that off, then lubed it with 3inOne oil and the darn thing is the smoothest throttle I have, the cable drive has a nice feel with no play at all so they were on to something.
That primer is a really simple mechanism. It pushes the float down so the carb floods, giving you that little extra fuel you want for start. Some nitpicking: I´d squirt some oil into the cylinders before the compression test for lubrication, dry rings on dry bores isn´t exactly a good thing. Also some water down the "water flush" hole would help the poor water pump impeller, bone-dry decades old rubber rotating in an aluminium housing may be not your best choice :) Again, I´m only nitpicking, it is a very enjoyable video.
your points are extremely valid and I really appreciate them… I started out spraying some oil in the cylinders but then kinda “forgot” about that step as I kept going, doh! on the impeller I have definitely seen them just fall apart so I am going under the assumption that I will replacing all impellers before any of these motors go into service… can you elaborate on what you mean by “water flush” hole? I have seen hose connections for flushing on Yamaha outboard but I wasn’t aware other motors had things like that
@@partscannongarage Re: The water flush hole, it´s in this video at 12:59 :) Normally used if you run your outboard in salt water ( which will eat away all that aluminium ) to flush all the salt water out of the cooling system. If water trickles out of the water pumps´s inlet you know the impeller got at least a little bit wet :)
seems obvious now, when I saw that water flush hole I think I was assuming that was for something like that and then I forgot all about it…. I don’t think I have seen anything like that on the older evinrude or mercurys
I don't know much about these motors, but I would think a little oil in the cylinders would prevent scoring and improve compression. I've also seen lots of videos saying not to use starter fluid on 2 cycle engines because it dries out the cylinder walls. Fun watching the journey of discovery on those old motors.
you are definitely right about the starting fluid, I am trying to use much less now that I heard that, I have been trying to use pre-mix only on the later videos… thank you very much for watching and I am glad you are having some fun. take care!
you are definitely right about the starting fluid, I am trying to use much less now that I heard that, I have been trying to use pre-mix only on the later videos… thank you very much for watching and I am glad you are having some fun. take care!
@partscannongarage The very next video I watched, you used premix gas. I grew up fishing with my dad on Leech Lake in MN. Saw a lot of your old motors when they were sparkly and new!
@partscannongarage It was so much fun. Dad bought a 5 hp Johnson that seemed like an antique to me. Thinking back, it was probably only 10 years old. I loved that motor. I was 9 or 10 and was allowed to take that resort strip boat and motor wherever I wanted. Had a couple very close calls in that rig. One ending with a sunk boat and two terrified kids.
Interesting, I didn’t even know it was a Gale UNTIL I watched my own video and read the whole serial plate hahah, that is helping with my searching for a handle so thank you very much for sharing that info.
It's fun to watch your discovery exploration process as you dive into these old motors. I have a 1952 Evinrude Lightwin that I picked up in desperation at the start of COVID because outboards of any kind were pretty hard to find down in Florida at the time and I absolutely needed one when our old outboard pooped out on us.
I was fascinated by it and when I got it running and cleaned up inside of all the salt plugging the galleries and the carb rebuilt with a kit that replaced the original cork float plus an all new prop it did really well. We used it as our daily driver for a couple of years until it plugged up again and I didn't want to go through all the trouble of breaking head bolts again to clean it out a second time. So I replaced it with a 2.3hp Honda.
That old Evinrude really turned heads and was a conversation starter almost every day at the dinghy dock.
glad you are enjoying the tour of old motors hahah, what a great comment, the Lightwin motors look so cool, I love all the old stuff and I didn’t really know how cool it was before starting this little project. What ever happened to the Lightwin? Perhaps time to dig it out and clean it up again? Come on over to the barn!
Gale products was bought out by omc in the 50s they made over a million motors. Then once shut them down and gale started making. Lawnboy mowers
that is too bad, I started looking at older Gales and they are really cool, very innovative in my ways
Have you considered adding the motor make / model / year to your titles? Might be helpful for anyone searching for info on these old motors. I really enjoy your videos and am looking forward to the boat tests!
Great point, my titles are not very good for searching, I think I will take your advice and switch them. I need to get my whiteboard updated with accurate info and do a whiteboard tour as well. Thank you very much for the comment and feedback, glad you are enjoying the videos.
@@partscannongarage Please keep the names! That's part of what makes this fun. I just suggest adding info for searchability.
Hahaha, I hear ya, I like the names too. I plan to keep the silly names for sure, but the whole “Part 9b” is confusing so I need to come up with a nomenclature that makes it easy to understand but is searchable… I am working on some ideas, at least TH-cam makes it easy to change as often as I want
Its fun to look at the different approaches that the outboard manufacturers of old used to address controls on these old motors. Primer instead of choke: about 50 years ahead of its time. The cable system may have been inspired by bicycle controls. It may be simpler and have less play than the Johnson / Evinrude approach with gears and levers.
It definitely looks like it was inspired by bicycle/dirtbike type controls, same little cable end, etc. I have to tell you, I blasted it with WD-40 then wiped off the excess dirt coming out everywhere, then I lubed it with mystery oil and wiped that off, then lubed it with 3inOne oil and the darn thing is the smoothest throttle I have, the cable drive has a nice feel with no play at all so they were on to something.
That primer is a really simple mechanism. It pushes the float down so the carb floods, giving you that little extra fuel you want for start.
Some nitpicking: I´d squirt some oil into the cylinders before the compression test for lubrication, dry rings on dry bores isn´t exactly a good thing. Also some water down the "water flush" hole would help the poor water pump impeller, bone-dry decades old rubber rotating in an aluminium housing may be not your best choice :) Again, I´m only nitpicking, it is a very enjoyable video.
your points are extremely valid and I really appreciate them… I started out spraying some oil in the cylinders but then kinda “forgot” about that step as I kept going, doh! on the impeller I have definitely seen them just fall apart so I am going under the assumption that I will replacing all impellers before any of these motors go into service… can you elaborate on what you mean by “water flush” hole? I have seen hose connections for flushing on Yamaha outboard but I wasn’t aware other motors had things like that
@@partscannongarage Re: The water flush hole, it´s in this video at 12:59 :) Normally used if you run your outboard in salt water ( which will eat away all that aluminium ) to flush all the salt water out of the cooling system. If water trickles out of the water pumps´s inlet you know the impeller got at least a little bit wet :)
seems obvious now, when I saw that water flush hole I think I was assuming that was for something like that and then I forgot all about it…. I don’t think I have seen anything like that on the older evinrude or mercurys
Super cool!
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love that motor!
I don't know much about these motors, but I would think a little oil in the cylinders would prevent scoring and improve compression. I've also seen lots of videos saying not to use starter fluid on 2 cycle engines because it dries out the cylinder walls. Fun watching the journey of discovery on those old motors.
you are definitely right about the starting fluid, I am trying to use much less now that I heard that, I have been trying to use pre-mix only on the later videos… thank you very much for watching and I am glad you are having some fun. take care!
you are definitely right about the starting fluid, I am trying to use much less now that I heard that, I have been trying to use pre-mix only on the later videos… thank you very much for watching and I am glad you are having some fun. take care!
@partscannongarage The very next video I watched, you used premix gas. I grew up fishing with my dad on Leech Lake in MN. Saw a lot of your old motors when they were sparkly and new!
wow, must have been amazing to see the new styles and designs every year, they put a lot of effort into making these look cool
@partscannongarage It was so much fun. Dad bought a 5 hp Johnson that seemed like an antique to me. Thinking back, it was probably only 10 years old. I loved that motor. I was 9 or 10 and was allowed to take that resort strip boat and motor wherever I wanted. Had a couple very close calls in that rig. One ending with a sunk boat and two terrified kids.
It's the same style card as an old evinrude. Probably has a cork float. The head is where the spark plugs screw into.
thanks ken, I can’t wait to get back to that motor and get it on the water, I really love that thing
Nice old motor. 5D11B means 1955 5hp
Thank you for watching and cracking the code!
Gale Outboards were made by OMC, same company as Johnson and Evinrude. However, not a lot of shared parts on them.
Interesting, I didn’t even know it was a Gale UNTIL I watched my own video and read the whole serial plate hahah, that is helping with my searching for a handle so thank you very much for sharing that info.