British Rail Network SouthEast-North of Thames EMU Variety
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ค. 2020
- A compilation upload now of British Rail Network SouthEast EMUs at work north of the Thames, filed in the late 1980s, early 1990s. We see EMU classes 302, 305, 307, 308, 309, 310, 312, 313, 315, 317, 319 & 321 including the 302 EPUs in their Royal Mail red livery, (units based at Ilford Car Sheds.) at Upminster, Manor Park, Stratford, Bethnal Green, Euston, Bedford and Hitchin. If you liked the video please subscribe to my channel, there are lots more transport & quirky vids to upload!
Great video. Thanks for the upload. Nice to see Upminster East signal box again. My dad worked there in the late 70s and I spent many a Saturday there with him as a kid.
Always a bonus to see the Tilbury "EPB" in action. Back when we lived in Gravesend, my ol' mum working in the newspapers often had to take the alternative route of Tilbury ferry and then down the ramp to pick up the 302 to Fenchurch St. Sadly, the poor old things were a lot dirtier inside and out than their SR brothers but they were quicker on the pullaway than the third rail units. I was so saddened when they removed the Tilbury pier station making a commute just that bit more difficult for so many. The thing about it though, whilst Kent trains in to London during rush hour were packed to the nines, the Tilbury trains you could get a seat no probs or not have to stand with some blokes stinking armpit in your face.
That was a good way round. Back in pre grouping days the LTS line had a booking office in Gravesend and you could buy a ticket which included the ferry ride to Tilbury!
Really good emu fest, remember seeing cl309's @harwich parkeston quay,on the boat train for Liverpool st,around 89'!!
Yes, once they had wired beyond Colchester it was possible for them to work those services. I imagine they gave a good, storming run!
Brings back some great memories riding to Southend on the old slam door stock
Same here, only they well all overr BR blue.....and Basildon station hadn't been built!
Did you spot any 85s lurking at Dagenham Dock back then?
@@annescholey6546 By the early 1990s BR had wired up the North London Line and AC locos could work to & from the WCML. See my upload here for an 85/1 on such a working th-cam.com/video/QSTi0OOzJ1s/w-d-xo.html
Hi Soi. Fantastic classic stock 👍🏻 It made me laugh when I saw that EMU Royal Mail train lol 😂 Now GB rail freight have converted a 319 EMU unit for carrying parcels back into London again as if it's never been done before haha 😂 Thanks Stevie 😎
Yes, the EPU (Electric Parcels Unit) conversions were done in the late 1980s at Ilford CarSheds Level 6 depot. They worked services from Liverpool Street to Southend Victoria, Colchester & Norwich. In the late 1990s the Royal Mail had built the 325s, a sort of 365/319 combo mix (AC & DC powered + buffers for loco haulage) for carrying mail. If they are now using a 319 it is just history repeating itself......
That was fantastic once again Soi Thank you so much for this classic compilation. But i have to ask imagine if trains could talk and had personalities in the case of The 313's and 315's they'd say "why did the builders build me with a frown on my face?"
Good build by BR but they had a lack of designers, everything was very functional. Thank god they used outside help with the HST......
I remember when the Enfield line was electrified in Nov 1960 and the N7s and quinarts before them.
The electrics were good.
Pity I can't remember the old 1500DC electrics.
Wish they had kept the old pantographs on the converted DC stock, very classic.
There really is no reason for the old pans to be replaced, the French used them on 25kv and even the Germans still have them on 15kv locos.
I loved the sound of the DC traction motors on the new electric stock and the Gresley bogies.
Also the old air compressor sound, BRILLIANT
I do remember the 306s but only after their AC conversion. Still very nice stock to ride on.
Another great video from the happy days of the late 80s and early 90s railways. I remember visiting Stratford on a Saturday and taking photos of trains passing whilst on platform 8. Happy memories. Almost all the trains in the film have now gone to the scrapyard of the skies and only the 315s 317s 319s and 321s still running today but on borrowed time now as they due to be replaced by new trains within couple of years. Thanks for sharing ☺👍
My pleasure.....Seems funny to think of 321s being withdrawn as they were new trains when i was filming in the late 80s......
I get always so despondent whenever I see old Stratford, to think of the many livelihoods snuffed out so the ponces could build a useless bloody stadium. Back in the late eighties I used to commute from my part of South London to the hospital in Brentwood where I worked, it was lucky in Brentwood was just outside the Capitalcard zones so each week I would buy one Capitalcard and one weeks season ticket between Harold Hill and Brentwood, often sharing a train with Alan Sugar at odd hours (I cannot recount here what an obnoxious individual he is either). I do remember the slidey doors rubbish, you could never get your head down comfy on them things so I always caught the old slamdoors at every opportunity :)
I managed to throw in Stratford in 1998 to look for hulks at the works and RfD 47s. All since swept away for that 1936 style Tory showcase
Yes, the 315 are nowhere near as comfy as the old slammers were....
Super video. Nice footage of upminster
Thank you.....
ScotRail had the 305s on the North Berwick-upon-Tweed line.
Yes, i did manage a day out on them.....see here th-cam.com/video/NxLghDWyn5w/w-d-xo.html
Good memories and very clear. Sad of old EMUs going vanishing soon.
I am fully aware that class 309 fleet had their pantograph in an end trailer on certain units, but at about 07:05, another unit went through at bethnal green but couldn't identify it, but have a feeling it was a 307?
Looks like it was 307 127 leading a 302 and another 307 at the rear .
@@kevinsylvester770 it was. The 309 were reformed in the early 1980s into all 4 car sets using MkI coaches that were modified. The driving coaches with a pan on them were originall 2 car units when built, used to lengthen sets to 6 or 12 cars as required.
Manor Park was my local station - grew up in the 80's and have good memories of the 315's and 321's (new back then!) I remember the Royal mail 302's on depot as I regularly used to go to ilford depot and look out from the footbridge. I seem to recall around that time there were a lot of 305's or similar stored at Stratford - maybe they were being overhauled, but distinctly remember being able to see rows of them in sidings on Stratford depot, from the main-line travelling towards Liverpool Street from Stratford. Looking back, we had some interesting traffic along that line back then. My best memory was one Sunday seeing a Class 37 on an Engineers train parked in the slow passing loop behind platform 1 at Manor Park. Probably around 1990! Thanks for sharing!
The 305s you saw at Stratford was probably the Old Sidings along by platform 12. Unless you meant Thornton Fields which was between Stratford & the old Bryant & May match factory.... The loop at Manor Park was for freight trains although engineers train would also be stabled there at times if unable to get back to Leyton Engineers Depot due to engineering work. I worked at Ilford Car Sheds in the early 90s and have worked the parcels 302s along with 312, 315 & 321s, sad to see them all withdrawn now! The 321s were a nice train to drive.....
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Thanks! Yes, it does sound like it could have been the sidings...the units were nose-on to the running line and were sited between the station and the aggregate/cement sidings by the river...I seem to recall that the freight loop at Manor Park usually had shopping trolleys etc dumped on the track bed! Not much seemed to go through there: There was a small coal yard just east of the station which would have been served by that line, although it was just house coal and delivered by road in the 80s. Ilford could be an interesting depot..EMU's weren't really my cup of tea, but you never did know what you might find there...must've been an interesting place to work back then.
@@on_the_waves That was Thornton Fields..... In its later days BR just used it between the peaks to service stock. In earlier times an ex class 15 was used there to steam heat the Inter-City coaching stock! Stratford had several of these ex locos on their books, by then numbered ADB968xxx......
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Great info! Thanks again...I had heard of the class 25 ETHEL units, but never knew that the 15s were used for that purpose too!
@@on_the_waves The class 15s were static use only, they were not part of the train consist. They were shunted on top of stock to pre warm the train before it was taken off to Liverpool Street. I believe Colchester had one for similar purposes.....
Tube goes up tube goes down lol
I thought i'd leave the Central Line 62 stock in the vid....a bit of history there as well. I used to hang around on the platform 8 and can remember the sound of the 62 stock storming in even now, 30+ years later!
Absolutely loved the sounds of those slamdoor EMUs!
A sound that has pretty much consigned to history now.....
Nice
Wow, absolutely awesome footage. The trains of yesterday were just fantastic when you compare them to the replacements of today. They ALL had character. Sadly it's very much lacking on today's so called trains !!
Yes, i think a bit more care was taken with designing trains in the past....look at the Inter-City 125 for instance.....
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus absolutely.... Designed by railway engineers and built to last. Look at the HST, 40 odd years old and still going strong. It's disgraceful that some ROSCO's are sending them to the scrap yard when there is still plenty of life in them. I personally cannot see these IEP things lasting as long !!
@@GNTel313 No, i can't see an IEP making 40 years! However, all things come to an end and some will e scrapped soon. It's daft that more aren't in use with Cross Country as they suffer so much over-crowding, well in normal times anyway.....
I used to travel on class 309 units when I was coming back from boarding school -- I used to get on the slow train from Ipswich so as to be away from the other boys. Horribly rattly things they were, far worse than the slam-door trains on the southern region (I lived south of the Thames).
I always found travelling on a 309 to be a good experience, a cut above the other EMUs of the era. Mind you they were all more comfortable than today's units with their ironing board seats, 700's especially i have found to be bad.
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Yeah you're right about the seats on modern MUs. The seats on the slam door trains were nice and soft. Never failed to notice that when travelling on the Brighton express trains (even though I only went as far as Croydon) compared to the new Thameslink trains which seemed to have the same interiors and bodywork as the class 455/6 commuter trains.
Bad boys boarded HAPs in Kent and cussed as you got off in the 80s or spat at you.
@@annescholey6546 I thoughtb that was more inner south London???....
MMMM Class 309
Quality stock......comfy seats to boot!
The video 80s?
The late 1980s and early 1990s
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