the photograher on the end of platform at circa 9mins and 5 seconds is me at 23 years old - this was taken on thursday 7th May 1987 i was on day 1 of 3 day anglia rover coveing last few days of diesel haulage on norwich - london services
Wow! Isn't that great being able to see yourself back then all these years later?......Who would have thought back then the internet would ever exist and that my videos would be seen worldwide?.....I also was out as the 47s were due to finish on the Norwich workings, the results of which are seen here plus my Ipswich 1987 upload...th-cam.com/video/U0GYdy5pelE/w-d-xo.html. There is also a Great Yarmouth vid from 1988 uploaded as well.....th-cam.com/video/wryevlqvPO8/w-d-xo.html
I moved to Norwich in December 1986. It's great to be reminded of how it was back then. Thank you Soi Buakhao for sharing your great collection of videos for the rest of us to see.
It's quite freightening to think this was 30+ years ago! I grew up in the East End and watched the 47s on the Norwich's storm along the GE Main Line, all BR blue apart from 1977 whre a couple had the Union Jack flag painted on them.
Ahhh my local station, sadly I am too young to have any experience of these old trains, i've rarely catch trains from here, and 90% of the time it's a Class 90 train. Still, nothing beats the lovely Norfolk breeze.
This was a smart time to get some footage at Norwich because it would have been a different scene just weeks later. I know all the wires are in place but this was in fact the final moments of pre-electric era traction at Norwich which makes it very historic now. I lived very local to here from '92 to 09 and it was all 86s in intercity (by that time with DBSOs on the back) and mostly Sprinters on the local lines, with still the occasional 47 on specials to Gt Yaremouth etc. and the occasional visiting 3xx emu from further south. Colourful times on reflection. Never to be repeated.
I shot out to film this because it was right at the end of diesel traction on the Norwiches. The Harwich boat trains kept 47s for a while longer, until they wired up the Harwich line.....
What a great video, I spent a lot of my time in Norwich over the years, brought back some great memories. And even now they still only use a two car DMU for Yarmouth, gets a bit crowded on matchdays.
I bought a car magazine from the WH Smiths at Norwich station May '87. It cost £4 even then [which was a massive amount as most car mags were around £1.60] I still have it ! [ Top Wheels ]
Soi Buakhao It was !! I have just two issues of it. I was 14 at the time, so it was over 1 week’s paper-round money ! They still come up on E-Bay occasionally.
Class 31’s , good reliable work horses, unfortunately most times tatty , filthy and unloved . Living in Chelmsford at the time of this video I well remember the immaculate Stratford 47’s with white roofs . Great memories , thank you Soi .
Happy days....i only just made it down to Norwich, a few weeks later the 86s ran straight through. Always liked 31s, we had the 'toffee apples' from Stratford that used to run past the bottom of my garden when i lived in Manor Park. In later years i used to ride behind them for haulage plus ended up driving them! Quite powerfull little engines actually......
The first job I was offered on the railway was Booking Office Clerk at Manor Park ! But I accepted a C02 Accident Officer at East Side Offices Kings Cross instead. Further to travel from Gidea Park, but no working shifts, weekends and bank holidays.
Great video of a proper railway. All you need is semaphore signals and no overhead wires. LOL! Try Great Yarmouth ! I loved 47s. By the time this video was taken, you would have had a loco change at Ipswich as the 47s no longer worked through to Liverpool Street. For 4 consecutive years, I travelled to Great Yarmouth 18 out of 20 summer Saturdays chasing 47/0s and 47/3s - that is 72 Saturdays. Scored 08s, 31s, 37s, two 37/7s, 47/4s too. On the GEML, I cabrode 21 x 86s and 21 x 90s, plus 47s to Yarmouth and from Cambridge, and 67 020 to Lowestoft ! I also ride a 66 from North Walsham to Parkeston. First job offer on the railway was Booking Office Clerk at Manor Park, but accepted CO2 Accident Officer at East Side Offices Kings Cross instead. No shift work, weekends or bank holidays worked.
I'm pleased you enjoyed it. Here are a few more from this area & era you may find interesting... Ipswich th-cam.com/video/U0GYdy5pelE/w-d-xo.html and Great Yarmouth th-cam.com/video/wryevlqvPO8/w-d-xo.html and Crown Point Open Day th-cam.com/video/z5OTSf-ZlD8/w-d-xo.html..... enjoy!
I know what you mean. I still film trains but it's not the same, more thrash and variety with the older traction. It's hard to believe i filmed this over 30 years ago!
They delay an arrival from London form a pilot and an LE class 47 ! WTF ! It always seem to be the around this time you were delayed outside Norwich station awaiting a platform !
Lovely stuff, though a lot of character was lost when the track was remodelled. Good to see plenty of first class accommodation on the London trains, as well as the excellent restaurant - it was a great loss to lose that. And very soon we'll lose the ability to stick a head out of the window.
Yes, lots & lots of lovely units to ride on--fast ones, slow ones, short ones and maybe some long ones! Oh joy! The powers that be will at last have achieved their aim to dumb down the Norwich Inter-City service to an outer suburban EMU with a trolly service with a plastic cup of tea and plastic sandwich--an that's if you're lucky!!!!
Thank you. I'm amazed to think it was over 30 years ago now! Have you checked out the further part of this day at Ipswich? See it here th-cam.com/video/U0GYdy5pelE/w-d-xo.html
Yes, although these seen here were mostly outbased at Norwich by now as the wires were live to Ipswich and the trains hauled by 86s to & from Liv Street.
It was SF silver roofs that prompted Chris Green to brand ScotRail and later NSE. When you take pride in your work it shows. SF 47s had the best availability in the class.
Kings Cross had a link for that very purpose, drivers that had enough of the main line. At KX there was a link out-based at Finsbury Park for the suburban DMU work to Welwyn & Hertford North in the main and KX, York Road and Moorgate the other.
Hi Mr G, somewhere i have another film taken around Norwich/Yarmouth/Lowestoft/Ipswich featuring Met Cam DMUs taken around 1988-ish time. I think the only modern stock was the 156 Sprinters on the Norwich-Birminghams.
Stratford class 47's always looked a bit special though didn't they, rare as hens teeth anywhere away from region, one time I was at Newport when 577 was on a pompey and I saw it coming out of the tunnel,didn't know what it was but it was definitely not a canton loco so I ran from plat3 to the ticket office bought a rtn to Bristol then ran back across to catch it, bloody know I couldn't do that now lol
Yeah you could but slightly different. 577 is still doing the honours of wondering the network. It just carries the wrong number. 847 was 577 and that was one of the two that did the last hauled Xc service.
The DBSOs came in after electrification. It must have been around 1990/91 time when the Glasgow-Edinburgh service went over to class 158 Sprinters, the DBSos had been used with the original batch of 47/7s on this route. After the 47s went the class 86s still had to do this shunt move....
Yeah but totally unnecessarily ! Why the train didn’t stop short of the run around points has me confused ! At very least the main loco could reverse the train behind the points & then run around.
Surprised that it wasn't 1 47 brings in the inbound train in, and a second rolls in to bring it back out, and so forth, as was seen in other termini stations during loco hauled days.
Very tidy rakes of rolling stock on the London trains, although Inter-City livery always looked rather dull on Mk 2's to me. Blue & grey was far superior. The 47s all looked very well cared for, good to see that Stratford's standards didn't slip after they no longer worked into London regularly.
And i caught these right at the end of the diesel services. Stratford always put on a good show with their locos. In the 1970s they named a 47 Great Eastern, the BR Board went ballistic and it was removed but it did start the ball rolling again for naming locos, indeed they did get a 47 named 'Great Eastern' in the end!
Some of those mark 3 coaches are still in service. Remarkable value I guess considering a lot of them built in the 70s but bloomin' awful as a disabled passenger. I don't think Greater Anglia operate them anymore.
Don't feel too hard done by - The Stadler units are definitey some of the better classes of new unit out there (compared to the discomfort of an IET for example) and Norwich station still has a quaint charm to it. ECML and GWML passengers have suffered a hell of a comedown since losing the HSTs.
The good old days. BR electrified Norwich and the ECML with the minimal fuss. I would not trust Network Rail to hang a washing line let alone electrify a line. The seem to be very good at growing Buddleia though.
The Pway engineers of old must be spinning in their graves with the state of the modern railway, weeds & buddleia everywhere, even growing out of walls & building galore, crazy!
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the photograher on the end of platform at circa 9mins and 5 seconds is me at 23 years old - this was taken on thursday 7th May 1987 i was on day 1 of 3 day anglia rover coveing last few days of diesel haulage on norwich - london services
Wow! Isn't that great being able to see yourself back then all these years later?......Who would have thought back then the internet would ever exist and that my videos would be seen worldwide?.....I also was out as the 47s were due to finish on the Norwich workings, the results of which are seen here plus my Ipswich 1987 upload...th-cam.com/video/U0GYdy5pelE/w-d-xo.html. There is also a Great Yarmouth vid from 1988 uploaded as well.....th-cam.com/video/wryevlqvPO8/w-d-xo.html
I moved to Norwich in December 1986. It's great to be reminded of how it was back then. Thank you Soi Buakhao for sharing your great collection of videos for the rest of us to see.
It's quite freightening to think this was 30+ years ago! I grew up in the East End and watched the 47s on the Norwich's storm along the GE Main Line, all BR blue apart from 1977 whre a couple had the Union Jack flag painted on them.
Ahhh my local station, sadly I am too young to have any experience of these old trains, i've rarely catch trains from here, and 90% of the time it's a Class 90 train. Still, nothing beats the lovely Norfolk breeze.
This was a smart time to get some footage at Norwich because it would have been a different scene just weeks later. I know all the wires are in place but this was in fact the final moments of pre-electric era traction at Norwich which makes it very historic now. I lived very local to here from '92 to 09 and it was all 86s in intercity (by that time with DBSOs on the back) and mostly Sprinters on the local lines, with still the occasional 47 on specials to Gt Yaremouth etc. and the occasional visiting 3xx emu from further south. Colourful times on reflection. Never to be repeated.
I shot out to film this because it was right at the end of diesel traction on the Norwiches. The Harwich boat trains kept 47s for a while longer, until they wired up the Harwich line.....
what a treat! Thanks for posting
Wolverhampton parcels 31 x 9 at 18.30. Brummie at 18.40 31 x 4 or 5.;19.30 highlight freight 31 or 37 (rare) and up to 60up Heather bank.
What a great video, I spent a lot of my time in Norwich over the years, brought back some great memories. And even now they still only use a two car DMU for Yarmouth, gets a bit crowded on matchdays.
A lot of places outside the south east only gets two car trains to this day.....
The 31 hauled train at the beginning was from Birmingham I reckon ! The Pilot came onto it to haul the coaches back so it could run around !
The 47 departure after was a LiverPool street service !
I bought a car magazine from the WH Smiths at Norwich station May '87.
It cost £4 even then [which was a massive amount as most car mags were around £1.60]
I still have it ! [ Top Wheels ]
Wow! that was anexpensive mag.....
Soi Buakhao
It was !!
I have just two issues of it.
I was 14 at the time, so it was over 1 week’s paper-round money !
They still come up on E-Bay occasionally.
Guess Whsmith was still a rip off back then
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No, that was the cover price for the magazine.
It was £4 everywhere.
Class 31’s , good reliable work horses, unfortunately most times tatty , filthy and unloved . Living in Chelmsford at the time of this video I well remember the immaculate Stratford 47’s with white roofs . Great memories , thank you Soi .
Happy days....i only just made it down to Norwich, a few weeks later the 86s ran straight through. Always liked 31s, we had the 'toffee apples' from Stratford that used to run past the bottom of my garden when i lived in Manor Park. In later years i used to ride behind them for haulage plus ended up driving them! Quite powerfull little engines actually......
The first job I was offered on the railway was Booking Office Clerk at Manor Park ! But I accepted a C02 Accident Officer at East Side Offices Kings Cross instead. Further to travel from Gidea Park, but no working shifts, weekends and bank holidays.
Great video of a proper railway. All you need is semaphore signals and no overhead wires. LOL! Try Great Yarmouth ! I loved 47s. By the time this video was taken, you would have had a loco change at Ipswich as the 47s no longer worked through to Liverpool Street. For 4 consecutive years, I travelled to Great Yarmouth 18 out of 20 summer Saturdays chasing 47/0s and 47/3s - that is 72 Saturdays. Scored 08s, 31s, 37s, two 37/7s, 47/4s too. On the GEML, I cabrode 21 x 86s and 21 x 90s, plus 47s to Yarmouth and from Cambridge, and 67 020 to Lowestoft ! I also ride a 66 from North Walsham to Parkeston. First job offer on the railway was Booking Office Clerk at Manor Park, but accepted CO2 Accident Officer at East Side Offices Kings Cross instead. No shift work, weekends or bank holidays worked.
I'm pleased you enjoyed it. Here are a few more from this area & era you may find interesting... Ipswich th-cam.com/video/U0GYdy5pelE/w-d-xo.html and Great Yarmouth th-cam.com/video/wryevlqvPO8/w-d-xo.html and Crown Point Open Day th-cam.com/video/z5OTSf-ZlD8/w-d-xo.html..... enjoy!
Thanks Soi. I was at Crown Point Open Day.
I wish these days were still with us. Sigh
I know what you mean. I still film trains but it's not the same, more thrash and variety with the older traction. It's hard to believe i filmed this over 30 years ago!
They delay an arrival from London form a pilot and an LE class 47 ! WTF ! It always seem to be the around this time you were delayed outside Norwich station awaiting a platform !
Lovely stuff, though a lot of character was lost when the track was remodelled. Good to see plenty of first class accommodation on the London trains, as well as the excellent restaurant - it was a great loss to lose that. And very soon we'll lose the ability to stick a head out of the window.
Yes, lots & lots of lovely units to ride on--fast ones, slow ones, short ones and maybe some long ones! Oh joy! The powers that be will at last have achieved their aim to dumb down the Norwich Inter-City service to an outer suburban EMU with a trolly service with a plastic cup of tea and plastic sandwich--an that's if you're lucky!!!!
1976. 8 x Class 25. 2 x Class 40 and 5 x Class 37. Copped all in one day. I cheated I worked in Norwich parcels...
Very handy, combining work with pleasure..... lol
Another great video, thank you.
Thank you. I'm amazed to think it was over 30 years ago now! Have you checked out the further part of this day at Ipswich? See it here th-cam.com/video/U0GYdy5pelE/w-d-xo.html
The Stratford boys liked to keep their locos clean.
Yes, although these seen here were mostly outbased at Norwich by now as the wires were live to Ipswich and the trains hauled by 86s to & from Liv Street.
It was SF silver roofs that prompted Chris Green to brand ScotRail and later NSE. When you take pride in your work it shows. SF 47s had the best availability in the class.
my three grand fathers were drivers on the railway at Norwich. Only one of them was alive and working at this time.
Sounds like they got to work on some great traction over the years.
Soi Buakhao all three loved it. Gradually moving off the main line as they got older and onto the local ones.
Kings Cross had a link for that very purpose, drivers that had enough of the main line. At KX there was a link out-based at Finsbury Park for the suburban DMU work to Welwyn & Hertford North in the main and KX, York Road and Moorgate the other.
Second Gen DMU's didn't take over the local services here until as recently as 1993.
Hi Mr G, somewhere i have another film taken around Norwich/Yarmouth/Lowestoft/Ipswich featuring Met Cam DMUs taken around 1988-ish time. I think the only modern stock was the 156 Sprinters on the Norwich-Birminghams.
Stratford class 47's always looked a bit special though didn't they, rare as hens teeth anywhere away from region, one time I was at Newport when 577 was on a pompey and I saw it coming out of the tunnel,didn't know what it was but it was definitely not a canton loco so I ran from plat3 to the ticket office bought a rtn to Bristol then ran back across to catch it, bloody know I couldn't do that now lol
Yeah you could but slightly different. 577 is still doing the honours of wondering the network. It just carries the wrong number. 847 was 577 and that was one of the two that did the last hauled Xc service.
Nice one, brings back many memories. Thank you,
I'll have to dig some more 80s shots from around Anglia, it doesn't seem like 30 years ago i filmed it though!
Good old stuff.
Amazing how much shunting had to be done back then! When did the dbso carriages come into use? Must have made life a lot easier when they did come
The DBSOs came in after electrification. It must have been around 1990/91 time when the Glasgow-Edinburgh service went over to class 158 Sprinters, the DBSos had been used with the original batch of 47/7s on this route. After the 47s went the class 86s still had to do this shunt move....
Yeah but totally unnecessarily ! Why the train didn’t stop short of the run around points has me confused ! At very least the main loco could reverse the train behind the points & then run around.
Surprised that it wasn't 1 47 brings in the inbound train in, and a second rolls in to bring it back out, and so forth, as was seen in other termini stations during loco hauled days.
They had that shunt release set of points (as did Great yarmouth) so unless the loco had to go to the shed it would head back to Liverpool Street.....
The 08 had the busiest job but rarely went far.
Great Stuff.
Thank you. I can't believe it was over 30 years ago.....
Cool video mate
Very tidy rakes of rolling stock on the London trains, although Inter-City livery always looked rather dull on Mk 2's to me. Blue & grey was far superior. The 47s all looked very well cared for, good to see that Stratford's standards didn't slip after they no longer worked into London regularly.
And i caught these right at the end of the diesel services. Stratford always put on a good show with their locos. In the 1970s they named a 47 Great Eastern, the BR Board went ballistic and it was removed but it did start the ball rolling again for naming locos, indeed they did get a 47 named 'Great Eastern' in the end!
Some of those mark 3 coaches are still in service. Remarkable value I guess considering a lot of them built in the 70s but bloomin' awful as a disabled passenger. I don't think Greater Anglia operate them anymore.
The last of them were withdrawn a month or so back, the Corona virus helping them on their way due to the reduced service operating at the moment.
They are mark 2s in the video, not mk.3. Mark 3s didn't get used on the Liv St - Norwich workings until 'one' took over
Now look at the shite we have got at Norwich today!!...
Yes, definatly a big comedown! I still liked the Norwich service even though it went electric, 86s & later 90s with MkII & MkIII coaches... superb!
Don't feel too hard done by - The Stadler units are definitey some of the better classes of new unit out there (compared to the discomfort of an IET for example) and Norwich station still has a quaint charm to it. ECML and GWML passengers have suffered a hell of a comedown since losing the HSTs.
I agree. Almost feel sorry for the bashers of today.
It's a real shame to see all this variety has diapered these days it's just 755s and 745s
It's certainly a more sterile railway these days......
Is it 'diapered' because the modern railway is full of shite trains ?
When Britain actually HAD a railway system...
We still have, just operationally fragmented, and split apart from the infrastructure it runs on! Crazy 'system'.........
Was that the London train
The 47s were on the London Liverpool Street trains.....
The good old days. BR electrified Norwich and the ECML with the minimal fuss. I would not trust Network Rail to hang a washing line let alone electrify a line. The seem to be very good at growing Buddleia though.
The Pway engineers of old must be spinning in their graves with the state of the modern railway, weeds & buddleia everywhere, even growing out of walls & building galore, crazy!
Wat doesn't?
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