Knowing CW Barry, he CAN beat Homelander in less than a second but he won't and instead will give Homelander a speech about evil and why it's bad or sum shit.
@@TerryProthero sorry fanboy not everything revolves around laser eyes do you even know that speedsters no matter what they do they can always dodge everything 💀
Yep. But that's why he would lose. The writing on the show is pretty terrible. Barry is defeated by non-speedsters all the time. Even though that makes no sense whatsoever.
Well, probably also if The Boys’s writers are. They wouldn’t want to kill off Homelander like that. 🤷♀️ Also, if I’m in charge, because the CW show was so wildly inconsistent, downplayed Barry at every turn, and he lost so freaking often… that if he’s in-character, he dies.
@@TheFuri0uswc Barry: "That guy must be 30 feet away by now. There is no way I can catch up with him! It's not like I can run really fast or anything."
I know Homelander literally just shot death beams into you which you most definitely could’ve avoided if you hadn’t been distracted trying to talk to him. But you are the Flash, and I believe in you. Stop focusing on your internal bleeding and go. Run Barry run!
@@kitebrethren Barry runs back in time with two death holes in his chest just to push his dumbass out of the way and repeats the same speech his past self before vanishing into thin air because timeline instead of dodging the slow ass laser like a normal speedster with a brain. I love Barry but he has the common sense of a bird in a glass cage.
I like CW flash, but he really needs to learn to ditch his signature move, "Stop and talk". You can easily just do that after they're put in an anti-meta human cell faster then they can comprehend they've been moved.
that’s his character though they explained this early on with the comparison to arrow. if oliver had the speed in the arrow verse he wouldn’t do that. also of course it’s writing because the flash is so overpowered that if he was able to do what he actually can do, the show would be over in 3 seconds.
@@alastairolson3226 captain cold is just a man with a gun. in theory, it should take 0.0001 seconds to take the gun away before he pulls the trigger. the only way cold has a chance is if he has leverage (like the time he captured caitlin)
Homelander can't punch harder than the flash. The Flash is faster than light, you move a hand at lightspeed, and take into account that said hand won't be damaged by the punch(the speedforce protects him) and it's blasting through anything
@@Herobrine100xEven though they don’t state it out right he has several Feats putting him at or above light speed like escaping a black hole circling earth several times in a seconds & freezing a nuke before it explodes for several hours
His infinite Mass punch is probably the most deadliest thing in modern comics a physics defying punch with enough Force to turn homelander into Robin 😮😮😮
You need to consider that this is a show. It defies physics. To them, Flash's punches depend on the momentum before hand, so Flash would have to run then come back and punch. If we are talking normal punches in a close up fight, Homelander destroys Flash.
literally no nuke in this world can go 45,000 times ftl, thats just not possible. cw barry is said to be slower than mach 4 in season 6-8 stated by cisco. Where did you get that "calcutlation" from??
@ZealNaval the nuke isnt travelling that fast, its based on how long he kept it frozen after starting detonation, it would be seconds at best before an explosion but to keep them seconds as hours in barrys perspective would put him well above mach 4 and over light, its just the shows writing not being consistent and trying to keep him slower then actually shown like how mach 7 is apparently him and supergirl doing circles of the world every second when in reality it would be over 200000× speed of sound to do 2 laps in a second, mach 7 would be over 16000× smaller then even 1 lap which is what barry and supergirl did in the elseworlds crossover
@@hdhshdhxnndnfbf4123 yes but cw flash is still too weak and has no fighting iq, he loses to weak non-speedster metas every episode, a villain that tries to kill everyone walks off screen and barry loses him instantly, and in season 8-9 which is the later seasons he had a 2% chance of going mach 20 so he lost all of his “ftl” speed
Concerning the plot armor bit, Stan Lee emphasizes that it's hard to write a logical conclusion to fictional fights because whoever wins is whoever the writer wants to win.
One thing you forgot to mention was that in the CW flash, towards the ending seasons, we are introduced to the new forces, and one of those forces being the sage or strength force. In season nine, we also see that Barry is able to run in the air, or rather on lightning. We also see flashes other abilities using his speed. There is also the still force, which could freeze homelander in his tracks.
Yeah, but Barry doesn't consistently have access to the other forces just the Speed Force, any other time he had access to the other forces was just temporary
@DesmondAntwi-Boasiako Yup the only problem is his stupid strategy of talking first before fighting or not using his full speed despite having no realistic advantage of slowing down. Or whatever dumb crap CW writers have Barry do
Barry would wipe the floor with homelander, after a therapy session and him and iris declaring their love for each other for the 300th time in that episode. And you can't forget Barry's real superpower, being told: "run, barry, run".
Formula of the Show: Barry will lose to A-Train 😂 By the second half, Barry will be faster and finally face off against Homelander who will show up for the one episode.
Pretty much yeah more realistically that would be how a homelander V reverse flash battle would go flash would likely find some way to neutralize homelanders power's and arrest him but fight would still be over in less than a second
@embracethemeowmeow4541 ??? I'm referencing a popular TH-cam video series that mocks CW's flash and his tendency to stop to talk to bad guys and inevitably getting hit with something he should have dodged.
@embracethemeowmeow4541 no prob, man. Look up "the flash is insufferaby inconsistent" by Madvocate. He has a video for all the seasons. The first season video is a bit rough, but they just get funnier as they go.
Flash runs in, tell Homelander it's over, Homelander's eyes start glowing, Flash gets confused and hit, Homelander looks at him for solid 10 to 15 seconds before flying off, Flash looks up in confusion, cut out to Star Labs
Cw flash: blink and you die Homelander: like hell u ca- *blinks* Later... Caitlin: You could have paralyzed him... Hell even s1 barry can eat homelader if he ignores the stop to talk thing. As in the words of a legend: "dontstoptotalkdontstoptotalkdontstoptotalkdontstoptotalk"
In season two, I believe it was the episode "Trajectory" when he was trying to run fast enough to jump over the bridge he went up to mach three. Then a few episodes later they said Zoom was 3-4 times faster. So Zoom is at mach 9 to mach 12. Then Barry uses the tachyon device to match Zoom's speed. Then Zoom steals his speed. So his speed should be doubled. So mach 18-24. Then after going into the speed force he was just as fast if not faster than Zoom. Because not only does he win their race, he also has enough energy to make a time remnant at the same time. I don't think they give a specific number in season three, but he has been getting faster to try to save Iris. And when he comes back in season 4 they say he's way faster than any other speedster, including Zoom and Savitar. In other words, if you want to put a number on it Barry is at least bare minimum mach 24. And that's not even counting the feats of making a nuclear explosion look frozen or his race with Zoom providing enough energy to destroy multiple universes. And yes I know the machine was amplifying their power by an unknown amount, but even if Barry was only providing 0.001 percent of that power, that's still 0.001 perfect of the power to destroy multiple universes. Not planets, universes. All that to say the mach 7 thing is complete and utter nonsense.
Plus if you put it into account that the dimensions are infinite. No matter how big a number is it's always closer to zero than infinity. It's very possible to say flash's 0.01 percent is same as the power of a million suns. Considering each universe contains over Billion suns
CW Barry, by your own calcs here, would be capable of delivering an infinite mass punch, meaning that through hacks, he can throw a much harder punch than Homelander.
(Homelander) "I'm stronger than you! I'm stronger, I'm smarter, I'm better! I'm BETTER!" (Thawne) *shoves hand through Homelander's brain* "Forgive me...but to me, you've been dead for centuries."
Most fictional fights have to be viewed from the lens of a writer, as they're the reason why plot armor exists. Realistically, a writer probably couldn't have either of them win if they met, as that's how most hero v hero battles go when you look at the comics. Any fight would be interrupted or have give another character some kind of buff, causing the end result to be up for debate. But sometimes a writer is told to make a specific and fair victory happen, or is given free reign to write for themselves. If Homelander had to win, he'd either grab Flash and break his bones before he escapes or get in a cheap shot from behind. But a Flash victory would be easier to write because... he's the Flash.
Barry is faster than time itself. Which is why he's able to travel through time by accident. One real punch from Barry would atomize anyone in a flash.
@@ilovefentnyl disagree, the first two seasons are more solid…season 3 is good but only is held up by SB, without him it would be repetitive and eh, like a lot of 4, here’s hoping 5 will be better but I doubt it…maybe towards the end of the season it will be good
@@TheSsjJoker season 4 is a bridge to season 5 which is an obvious setup. i think season 4 is the only season to have a cliffhanger. excited for 5. my ranking of seasons might be controversial 1. S3 2. S2 3. S4 4. S1
an obvious feat that proves that he’s faster than light is that he can dodge attacks from villains like UltraViolet and others who literally attack by shooting light and radiation at people.
CW Flash would actually unironically be stronger then Homelander. Homelanders' best feats are calced at Town Level. Meanwhile, CW Flash in Season 8 was able to fight Despero, who was stated to be as strong as Kryptonian such as Superman and Supergirl. CW Flash is strong enough and durable enough to fight people who can destroy planets. Not to mention, he could just connect to the Strength Force again and get another amp. Or if we want overkill he could connect to all 4 Forces and create a Big Bang. The only was to make this a fair fight is to limit Barry to only Season's 1-3. Strength would go to Homelander. Barry would have better hax. Speed would be somewhat even, except for the occasional I'm faster because the writers don't know how fast this really is thing. Like you really gonna tell me Barry's only Mach 3.3 when you show him actively dodging light, which would require him at the bare minimum to be moving at 10% the speed of light.
Man I wish he brought up how he went so fast that he literally made a temporal rift that instantly teleports him to anywhere and how he was fast enough to literally destroy the whole earth
But Barry can throw REALLY hard punches, even the CW one. Even on the level of Homelander. The speeds he travels at basically turn him into something with millions of tons of force that would release upon impact. The Flash is one of DC's hardest hitters. But the Flash is so OP that they have to nerf him with boring villains with the excuse of "he doesn't kill, so he has to pull his punches". But if dude really wanted to, he could send Homelander flying without effort.
8:40 “it’s so that he’s so much faster” so you’re just not gonna mention how much more INTELLIGENT Barry is over Homelander you’re just gonna keep saying he’s faster?
@ it’s sad and pathetic you ONLY chose the show as an example and none of comics, so if you didn’t read the source material sorry sweetie you don’t get a place to speak…
Just imagine if the Flash was in The Boys universe started when Barry and Iris were in the road talking about science & journalism but just as Barry decide to admit his feelings to her(Eeww!), a blur appears out of nowhere as blood appears on Barry's face before it reveals to be A-Train who runs over and killed not just Iris but another woman(Robin) before he runs again, leaving a bloodied Barry and Hughie Campbell screaming Iris & Robin's name along with now destroyed bloody pulp of said women. Then, we have scenes where Barry was mad after watching A-Train's apology on TV while Joe West & his partner Eddie Thawne tried to calm him down, the Particle Accelerator explosion, Barry was hit by lightning and goes into coma, Barry woke up from a coma and meet Caitlin Snow, Cisco Ramon and Dr. Harrison Wells(the real Dr. Wells, not Eobard Thawne/Reverse Flash), STAR Labs being a rival to Vought Industries, Barry learns he has powers, dons his first ever Flash suit, stop a Metahuman just like the pilot episode, reveals his identity to Joe, The Flash's first appearance caught Vought's attention and Homelander saw The Flash as a threat to his fame & power. The follow up episodes will quite mix from CW's Flash Season 1 and The Boys episode while venturing of Barry's character development, his relationship with others like Caitlin & Cisco as OG Team Flash, Dr. Wells being a mentor(not manipulative like Thawne/Reverse Flash), Joe and Eddie(who later learned The Flash's identity) being a supporting character, Barry's date with other women like Linda & Patty but ends up choosing Caitlin since you know Iris is dead(also SnowBarry ROCKS!), his eventual meeting with Billy Butcher and the Boys, Vought's dark secrets, Caitlin has ice powers(Killer Frost foreshadowing), Eobard Thawne/Reverse Flash's reveal to Barry and the Season 1 finale shows the same like The Boys S1 finale mixed with The Flash vs Reverse Flash battle before it ends with the introduction of Wallh West and Homelander's son Ryan. And BOOM! That's how what I imagine of The Flash in the Boys universe.
CW Flash is wayy more powerful than Homelander, but he has negative plot armor while Homelander has positive plot armor, and their plot armors combined would probably flip their odds
Flash is so fast that he can make other speedsters look frozen to him. Like with reverse flash when he tried to attack Barry and just froze in front of him.
If Barry had it in him, he could actually time travel back to prevent the experiment that even created Homelander in the first place. Homelander started off as a sperm sample, skeeted into a cup, before a woman was chosen to birth him. All he would have to do would be to intercept that sample and wash Homelander down a sink.
barry would show up and stop to talk and give homelander the oppurtunity to either fly away or attack him. and since this version of flash is the embodiment of incompetence and wouldn't have his usual plot armor, he'd most likely die. not because he can't beat homelander (he could do it in less than a nanosecond) but because he's so stupid he would rather flap his gums at every opportunity he gets instead of dealing with threats efficiently.
A conflict between Homelander would probably look something like that: Barry looses some how the fight and is likely wounded. Than he gets a pep talk and the science crew invites something like Anti-compound-V which he Phases in Homelanders body 😅
@Comic Casual you forgot about the fact that barry has access to the forever force which is the strength force, sage force, still force and speed force all in one
The fight will be Barry talking and getting his ass whooped several times throughout the season until the final season when he gets REALLY fast and barely pulls out a win but only because Iris West is his lightning rod
The fact that Barry doesn’t need to physically hurt him from out side and can just phase hand like thauwn to stop his heart make that if he time it good with flashtime he one shot
14:22 Barry was just a few days, Weeks or months of experience with the powers, And The Cold gun is faster than him In That Episode & season (The cold gun was made by Cisco)
You are spot on, no one can defeat a well-trained speedster. That’s why the final episode of the flash series was so terrible. No way all of the flash’s sidekicks are going to take out the most evil speeders Barry has ever faced. Just ridiculous really.
Honestly, yeah you're so right the cw flash has shown how strong he can be and how makes him too op for the type of stories they put him in Cut to every villain mysteriously running away and disappearing around the corner from a speedster LOL
If we're talking about CW Barry, he's getting wooped by homelander becuase of how dumb he is, we're talking about a speedster who lost to a regular guy with a freeze gun multiple times.
You say all this about the flash but forget the fact that during the show his speed is very inconsistent, there are times where Barry gets caught out easily by non speedsters
Flash infinite mass punch: is a move that the Flash performs by moving at a very high speed relative to another object, which causes his mass to increase towards infinity. This is due to the effects of the Lorentz factor, which states that as an object moves faster, its mass increases Destructive Power: If The Flash were to strike someone with an infinite mass punch, the energy released would be beyond comprehension, likely causing catastrophic damage on a massive scale. The punch could theoretically exceed the energy of nuclear weapons or even more powerful cosmic phenomena.
Barry can travel back in time and kill him before he’s even born It would be extremely dark, but if we’re just talking about his powers and what he could do then time travel is his ultimate weapon
Why i feel like cw barry still wins is that the boys universe characters tend to have low durability so i think that since hes stronger and faster than thawne who before his max potential speed he could outrun superman so ill go ahead and say that barry wins high diff
Knowing CW Barry, he CAN beat Homelander in less than a second but he won't and instead will give Homelander a speech about evil and why it's bad or sum shit.
And then he be beat since he threw a normal punch instead of a super speed punch.
Then Homelander would fry him with his laser eyes.
@@TerryProthero na he would dodge it
@@TerryProthero sorry fanboy not everything revolves around laser eyes do you even know that speedsters no matter what they do they can always dodge everything 💀
Anybody can beat homelander, that is not from his verse
CW Flash only loses to Homelander if the CW writers are in charge of this battle
this is a cosmic truth.
Yep. But that's why he would lose. The writing on the show is pretty terrible. Barry is defeated by non-speedsters all the time. Even though that makes no sense whatsoever.
Well, probably also if The Boys’s writers are. They wouldn’t want to kill off Homelander like that. 🤷♀️
Also, if I’m in charge, because the CW show was so wildly inconsistent, downplayed Barry at every turn, and he lost so freaking often… that if he’s in-character, he dies.
Out ran a nuclear blast, can't chase after a criminal that ran down the street.
@@TheFuri0uswc
Barry: "That guy must be 30 feet away by now. There is no way I can catch up with him! It's not like I can run really fast or anything."
Well flash can’t beat homelander until iris and his team give him a prep talk first.
Bro you are so right! Lol
I know Homelander literally just shot death beams into you which you most definitely could’ve avoided if you hadn’t been distracted trying to talk to him. But you are the Flash, and I believe in you. Stop focusing on your internal bleeding and go. Run Barry run!
@@kitebrethren Barry runs back in time with two death holes in his chest just to push his dumbass out of the way and repeats the same speech his past self before vanishing into thin air because timeline instead of dodging the slow ass laser like a normal speedster with a brain.
I love Barry but he has the common sense of a bird in a glass cage.
@@doctorjay8673 More like CW writers have the writing skills of a bird in a glass cage
@@ComicCasualVideos broooooooooooooooooooooooo
I’m glad everyone knows that flash can 100% do it but not until iris says “I’m your lightning rod” or some other shit
I agree hahahaa
don't forget the "we are the flash"
I fucking hate the CW
Unlike other Flashes the CW one can't do anything on his own and needs about 10 people telling him to run before he actually can.
I believe we can all agree that anyone we want will give Homelander what he deserves
even the cabbage guy from avatar will one shot him.
@@ashwolf2006 most def the cabbage guy
Hydrogen bomb vs Coughing Baby
Hydrogen baby
milk baby
@@Mlley0 Coughing bomb
A hydrogen bomb itself would probably take out Homlander anyway 😂
An hydrogen bomb which can detonate in a second, but won't
I like CW flash, but he really needs to learn to ditch his signature move, "Stop and talk". You can easily just do that after they're put in an anti-meta human cell faster then they can comprehend they've been moved.
I mean he should do that with the weak villains like that scene with the trickster but yeah if it’s like zoom or cold just punch them
The Flash family secret technique: Talk no Jutsu!
that’s his character though they explained this early on with the comparison to arrow. if oliver had the speed in the arrow verse he wouldn’t do that. also of course it’s writing because the flash is so overpowered that if he was able to do what he actually can do, the show would be over in 3 seconds.
Even Grant Gustin has made fun of it on set. "Hey Eric how many times have I told a villain 'it's over?' Especially when it's not over?"
@@alastairolson3226 captain cold is just a man with a gun. in theory, it should take 0.0001 seconds to take the gun away before he pulls the trigger. the only way cold has a chance is if he has leverage (like the time he captured caitlin)
Homelander can't punch harder than the flash. The Flash is faster than light, you move a hand at lightspeed, and take into account that said hand won't be damaged by the punch(the speedforce protects him) and it's blasting through anything
Not this version, I don't even think he made it to lightspeed.
@@Herobrine100xEven though they don’t state it out right he has several Feats putting him at or above light speed like escaping a black hole circling earth several times in a seconds & freezing a nuke before it explodes for several hours
His infinite Mass punch is probably the most deadliest thing in modern comics a physics defying punch with enough Force to turn homelander into Robin 😮😮😮
You need to consider that this is a show. It defies physics. To them, Flash's punches depend on the momentum before hand, so Flash would have to run then come back and punch. If we are talking normal punches in a close up fight, Homelander destroys Flash.
@@MaddMaster69 how the fuck would homelander’s organs survive flash’s punches, skin isn’t going to stop that phasing thing
Let's be honest: any fictional character from a non-grounded world that isn't set in the universe of The Boys can beat Homelander.
💀
Brightburn: 😈
Jimmy olsen
@@frostedge2896have YOU SEEN JIMMY!?!? bro's the friend of supes, someone who'd probably be fast enough to stop Homelander from punching him
@@lightningjadejavier it’s a 1v1
4:26 Barry's s4 nuke feat was calcutlated around 45000 times the speed of light
literally no nuke in this world can go 45,000 times ftl, thats just not possible. cw barry is said to be slower than mach 4 in season 6-8 stated by cisco. Where did you get that "calcutlation" from??
@ZealNaval the nuke isnt travelling that fast, its based on how long he kept it frozen after starting detonation, it would be seconds at best before an explosion but to keep them seconds as hours in barrys perspective would put him well above mach 4 and over light, its just the shows writing not being consistent and trying to keep him slower then actually shown like how mach 7 is apparently him and supergirl doing circles of the world every second when in reality it would be over 200000× speed of sound to do 2 laps in a second, mach 7 would be over 16000× smaller then even 1 lap which is what barry and supergirl did in the elseworlds crossover
@@terricaneeditz2how can he time travel without going ftl? Also the guy said that flash is going 45000 times ftl not the nuke
@@hdhshdhxnndnfbf4123 yes but cw flash is still too weak and has no fighting iq, he loses to weak non-speedster metas every episode, a villain that tries to kill everyone walks off screen and barry loses him instantly, and in season 8-9 which is the later seasons he had a 2% chance of going mach 20 so he lost all of his “ftl” speed
@@kotishjaiman8231 his speedforce lets him time travel not his actual speed
Concerning the plot armor bit, Stan Lee emphasizes that it's hard to write a logical conclusion to fictional fights because whoever wins is whoever the writer wants to win.
Especially with cw Barry lol
But logic
Flash should win 😢
This fight will take less than a second.
But the episode? Probably a lot longer.
I mean prolly for a long dialogue before ending instantly
Cause CW flash fr just yaps way too much 😭
have you WATCHED the CW? this shit is gonna take 3 whole seasons if the CW is writing the fight
One thing you forgot to mention was that in the CW flash, towards the ending seasons, we are introduced to the new forces, and one of those forces being the sage or strength force. In season nine, we also see that Barry is able to run in the air, or rather on lightning. We also see flashes other abilities using his speed. There is also the still force, which could freeze homelander in his tracks.
Yeah, but Barry doesn't consistently have access to the other forces just the Speed Force, any other time he had access to the other forces was just temporary
@@SSImmortalisSupreme True, however in the scenario where Barry does have access to the other forces, Barry will definitely win.
@DesmondAntwi-Boasiako Yup the only problem is his stupid strategy of talking first before fighting or not using his full speed despite having no realistic advantage of slowing down. Or whatever dumb crap CW writers have Barry do
He doesn't usually have access to the other Forces, but you're right about him "riding the lightning", even the air isn't safe for Homelander.
Barry would wipe the floor with homelander, after a therapy session and him and iris declaring their love for each other for the 300th time in that episode. And you can't forget Barry's real superpower, being told: "run, barry, run".
I want to see homelanders reaction to CW zoom
I wanna see zoom rip out homelanders heart before lander even realizes zoom is standing there😭🙏🏾
Homelander: "What are you gonna do to stop m-"
*does the same thing he did to Earth-2 Ronnie*
Zoom: "That"
“One guy freezes the floor and you go flying. You’re a seasonal superhero.”
-Batman
So, in other words. Plot armor and semi-lackluster writing aside, Arrowverse Flash pretty much wins by default.
To be fair. Flash probably could solo almost any character in any universe if it wasn’t for plot armor
I saw someone say CW Supergirl vs Homelander isn't close but they were saying Homelander could beat CW Supergirl Nope
nah cw supergirl is actually really strong probably right below cw flash
@VictorNieves-o3o homelander is a tom holland victim and im not even joking
Evil Supergirl and Supergirl-Bizzaro win by a long-shot (They don't have a whole speech before fighting)
She's a live wire victim lol
now cw green arrow is pretty strong :)
Formula of the Show:
Barry will lose to A-Train 😂
By the second half, Barry will be faster and finally face off against Homelander who will show up for the one episode.
Dosn't forget that before beating Homelander the entire rest of the cast has to do anything emotional speech and tell him to run
@tadeolaguarda6965 Yup and don't forget the unnecessary filler and side story
@@eduardopantoja9115 Don't forget iris getting freaking mad at Barry for literally no reason at all.
and then barry shrugs his shoulders and instantly defeats his enemies
He CAN but he's gonna sit there, talk, and forget he's fast as Homelander decapitates him
Don't stop to talk, don't stop to talk, don't stop to talk, don't stop to talk - Madvocate
Indeed
@@AJMasion I was thinking advocate throughout the whole of this video
*goes into flash time, phases homelander's heart out*
THE END
Pretty much yeah more realistically that would be how a homelander V reverse flash battle would go flash would likely find some way to neutralize homelanders power's and arrest him but fight would still be over in less than a second
"There's nowhere to run!"
*laser beams through the chest*
"Homebully joins the battle"
faster than light > faster than a laser.. come on dude.
@embracethemeowmeow4541 ??? I'm referencing a popular TH-cam video series that mocks CW's flash and his tendency to stop to talk to bad guys and inevitably getting hit with something he should have dodged.
@@forkme3165 ohh sorry man, I didn't know, may I know the video? it sounds fun to watch
@embracethemeowmeow4541 no prob, man. Look up "the flash is insufferaby inconsistent" by Madvocate. He has a video for all the seasons. The first season video is a bit rough, but they just get funnier as they go.
I think too many people forget that it doesn’t matter how big or small an object is. If it’s moving fast enough, it will be a death sentence.
there is a limit to that, for example massless particles/waves like light.
@@Jamlord2061 Can you really call waves objects?
@@Jamlord2061nobody asked for that pointless useless info 🫶🏾
Random Homelander Meat Rider 85987: But.. but.. Homelander can tank nuclear bombs...
I swear slowly I'm also realizing how strong flash is like. MOVING AT LIGHT SPEED IS REALLY AND I mean REALLY strong
@@gamingclub7877 in one comic he outran someone who can teleport Superman has nothing on him
@@alastairolson3226 Flash is broken as hell but he ain't beating Superman lmao
@@OfficialEdwardNewgate I would agree if his infinite mass punch didn’t exist which could probably kill Superman
It cannot, pick up a superman comic. @@alastairolson3226
Exactly. The Plot Armor of CW!Flash is so strong, "I can catch bullets that look like its suspended in the air but I lose to BOOMERANGS"
I call that plot weaknesses
Flash runs in, tell Homelander it's over, Homelander's eyes start glowing, Flash gets confused and hit, Homelander looks at him for solid 10 to 15 seconds before flying off, Flash looks up in confusion, cut out to Star Labs
Cw flash: blink and you die
Homelander: like hell u ca-
*blinks*
Later...
Caitlin: You could have paralyzed him...
Hell even s1 barry can eat homelader if he ignores the stop to talk thing.
As in the words of a legend:
"dontstoptotalkdontstoptotalkdontstoptotalkdontstoptotalk"
"Flash-time, put him in the pipeline. Flash-time, put him in the pipeline. Flash-time, put him in the pipeline."
In season two, I believe it was the episode "Trajectory" when he was trying to run fast enough to jump over the bridge he went up to mach three. Then a few episodes later they said Zoom was 3-4 times faster. So Zoom is at mach 9 to mach 12. Then Barry uses the tachyon device to match Zoom's speed. Then Zoom steals his speed. So his speed should be doubled. So mach 18-24. Then after going into the speed force he was just as fast if not faster than Zoom. Because not only does he win their race, he also has enough energy to make a time remnant at the same time. I don't think they give a specific number in season three, but he has been getting faster to try to save Iris. And when he comes back in season 4 they say he's way faster than any other speedster, including Zoom and Savitar.
In other words, if you want to put a number on it Barry is at least bare minimum mach 24. And that's not even counting the feats of making a nuclear explosion look frozen or his race with Zoom providing enough energy to destroy multiple universes. And yes I know the machine was amplifying their power by an unknown amount, but even if Barry was only providing 0.001 percent of that power, that's still 0.001 perfect of the power to destroy multiple universes. Not planets, universes.
All that to say the mach 7 thing is complete and utter nonsense.
Plus if you put it into account that the dimensions are infinite. No matter how big a number is it's always closer to zero than infinity.
It's very possible to say flash's 0.01 percent is same as the power of a million suns. Considering each universe contains over Billion suns
CW Barry, by your own calcs here, would be capable of delivering an infinite mass punch, meaning that through hacks, he can throw a much harder punch than Homelander.
(Homelander) "I'm stronger than you! I'm stronger, I'm smarter, I'm better! I'm BETTER!"
(Thawne) *shoves hand through Homelander's brain* "Forgive me...but to me, you've been dead for centuries."
Would love to see a what if the Reverse Flash was in the boys universe. Him and homelander would go crazy
Most fictional fights have to be viewed from the lens of a writer, as they're the reason why plot armor exists.
Realistically, a writer probably couldn't have either of them win if they met, as that's how most hero v hero battles go when you look at the comics. Any fight would be interrupted or have give another character some kind of buff, causing the end result to be up for debate.
But sometimes a writer is told to make a specific and fair victory happen, or is given free reign to write for themselves. If Homelander had to win, he'd either grab Flash and break his bones before he escapes or get in a cheap shot from behind. But a Flash victory would be easier to write because... he's the Flash.
Problem with this match up is that Barry is completely incompetent
You remind me of comic books versus the world, Your doing a great job a filling the void in comic book type videos!
The Flash kills Homelander before he even knows what hit him. The Flash would kill A-Train before HE knew what hit him 😂
if he doesnt stop to talk.
Barry starts to give Homelander a naive "don't do this. This isn't you" speech but Homelander laughs and lasers him to death.
Barry is faster than time itself. Which is why he's able to travel through time by accident.
One real punch from Barry would atomize anyone in a flash.
Barry timetravels because of the speedforce. He is not faster than time
Barry only loses if he doesn’t know how evil homelander is. If he knows everything he’s done all the gruesome murders he would take it seriously
Homelander can win by pretending to be good, yes
The only chance Homelander has, is if Barry trys to give a speech to calm Homelander down
I have to say your videos are always entertaining
“It was me Barry, I was the one who made the boys bad after season 3!!”
the boys season 4 was great, tf u on about
@@ilovefentnyl it’s a joke, and s4 was kinda mid tbh
@@TheSsjJoker still better than the first season
@@ilovefentnyl disagree, the first two seasons are more solid…season 3 is good but only is held up by SB, without him it would be repetitive and eh, like a lot of 4, here’s hoping 5 will be better but I doubt it…maybe towards the end of the season it will be good
@@TheSsjJoker season 4 is a bridge to season 5 which is an obvious setup. i think season 4 is the only season to have a cliffhanger. excited for 5.
my ranking of seasons might be controversial
1. S3
2. S2
3. S4
4. S1
The contrast of homelanders brutality to the flash not even liking to hurt villains would be interesting
an obvious feat that proves that he’s faster than light is that he can dodge attacks from villains like UltraViolet and others who literally attack by shooting light and radiation at people.
He can’t beat him until someone tells him to “run Barry run”
Infinite mass punch. Nuff said
We talking about Barry without a motivational speaker behind him. Barry will lose so bad he’ll start crying for his dead mommy. 😂
Finally someone who actually understands the CW Flash’s true power! Loved the vid btw🔥
CW Flash would actually unironically be stronger then Homelander.
Homelanders' best feats are calced at Town Level.
Meanwhile, CW Flash in Season 8 was able to fight Despero, who was stated to be as strong as Kryptonian such as Superman and Supergirl. CW Flash is strong enough and durable enough to fight people who can destroy planets.
Not to mention, he could just connect to the Strength Force again and get another amp. Or if we want overkill he could connect to all 4 Forces and create a Big Bang.
The only was to make this a fair fight is to limit Barry to only Season's 1-3. Strength would go to Homelander. Barry would have better hax. Speed would be somewhat even, except for the occasional I'm faster because the writers don't know how fast this really is thing. Like you really gonna tell me Barry's only Mach 3.3 when you show him actively dodging light, which would require him at the bare minimum to be moving at 10% the speed of light.
I love the part where he said it's casual time and casualed all over
Man I wish he brought up how he went so fast that he literally made a temporal rift that instantly teleports him to anywhere and how he was fast enough to literally destroy the whole earth
But Barry can throw REALLY hard punches, even the CW one. Even on the level of Homelander.
The speeds he travels at basically turn him into something with millions of tons of force that would release upon impact.
The Flash is one of DC's hardest hitters. But the Flash is so OP that they have to nerf him with boring villains with the excuse of "he doesn't kill, so he has to pull his punches". But if dude really wanted to, he could send Homelander flying without effort.
you can't forget.... when Barry had super speed thinking and turned emotionless evil in season 7, he was OP af.
I'm loving the trend of every superhero being speculated to be able to beat homelanders ass
Fanzine had a great article about this entitled "The Flash: What Doesn't Work"
8:40 “it’s so that he’s so much faster” so you’re just not gonna mention how much more INTELLIGENT Barry is over Homelander you’re just gonna keep saying he’s faster?
Well his actions in the show prove otherwise
@ it’s sad and pathetic you ONLY chose the show as an example and none of comics, so if you didn’t read the source material sorry sweetie you don’t get a place to speak…
Remember guys a speedsters greatest enemy is bad writing…and if ur Barry it’s bad writing and eobard thawne lol
Barry isnt winning until someone says "run barry... Run"
Homelander wins if Barry stops to talk.
Just imagine if the Flash was in The Boys universe started when Barry and Iris were in the road talking about science & journalism but just as Barry decide to admit his feelings to her(Eeww!), a blur appears out of nowhere as blood appears on Barry's face before it reveals to be A-Train who runs over and killed not just Iris but another woman(Robin) before he runs again, leaving a bloodied Barry and Hughie Campbell screaming Iris & Robin's name along with now destroyed bloody pulp of said women. Then, we have scenes where Barry was mad after watching A-Train's apology on TV while Joe West & his partner Eddie Thawne tried to calm him down, the Particle Accelerator explosion, Barry was hit by lightning and goes into coma, Barry woke up from a coma and meet Caitlin Snow, Cisco Ramon and Dr. Harrison Wells(the real Dr. Wells, not Eobard Thawne/Reverse Flash), STAR Labs being a rival to Vought Industries, Barry learns he has powers, dons his first ever Flash suit, stop a Metahuman just like the pilot episode, reveals his identity to Joe, The Flash's first appearance caught Vought's attention and Homelander saw The Flash as a threat to his fame & power. The follow up episodes will quite mix from CW's Flash Season 1 and The Boys episode while venturing of Barry's character development, his relationship with others like Caitlin & Cisco as OG Team Flash, Dr. Wells being a mentor(not manipulative like Thawne/Reverse Flash), Joe and Eddie(who later learned The Flash's identity) being a supporting character, Barry's date with other women like Linda & Patty but ends up choosing Caitlin since you know Iris is dead(also SnowBarry ROCKS!), his eventual meeting with Billy Butcher and the Boys, Vought's dark secrets, Caitlin has ice powers(Killer Frost foreshadowing), Eobard Thawne/Reverse Flash's reveal to Barry and the Season 1 finale shows the same like The Boys S1 finale mixed with The Flash vs Reverse Flash battle before it ends with the introduction of Wallh West and Homelander's son Ryan. And BOOM! That's how what I imagine of The Flash in the Boys universe.
CW Flash is wayy more powerful than Homelander, but he has negative plot armor while Homelander has positive plot armor, and their plot armors combined would probably flip their odds
the flash has the infinite mass punch one of those and it won't even be a fight it will be a slaughter
Flash is so fast that he can make other speedsters look frozen to him. Like with reverse flash when he tried to attack Barry and just froze in front of him.
“Its over Homelander!”
at this rate even the cabbage guy from avatar can beat homebully.
If Barry had it in him, he could actually time travel back to prevent the experiment that even created Homelander in the first place. Homelander started off as a sperm sample, skeeted into a cup, before a woman was chosen to birth him. All he would have to do would be to intercept that sample and wash Homelander down a sink.
In a death match he is cooking Homelander speed thinking alone
barry would show up and stop to talk and give homelander the oppurtunity to either fly away or attack him. and since this version of flash is the embodiment of incompetence and wouldn't have his usual plot armor, he'd most likely die. not because he can't beat homelander (he could do it in less than a nanosecond) but because he's so stupid he would rather flap his gums at every opportunity he gets instead of dealing with threats efficiently.
The CW flash lost to people slower and weaker than Homelander.. enough said 😭
yeah captain cold beat him MUTIPLE times and he just has a gun. honelander would kill captain cold in like 2 seconds
Don’t forget that cw flash outsmarts homelander in every possible situation
A conflict between Homelander would probably look something like that: Barry looses some how the fight and is likely wounded. Than he gets a pep talk and the science crew invites something like Anti-compound-V which he Phases in Homelanders body 😅
Super speed=super strength
barry gonna stop to talk and get beat up but come 40 minutes later and beat him up with encouragement from his team
Barry lost so many fights in the wildest ways, without totally needing him he's unstoppable
So basically it would be Omni Man vs Guardians of the globe but Red Rush figured out he is him before and didn't get greedy
Homelander when he hears: "There's nowhere to run!"
@Comic Casual you forgot about the fact that barry has access to the forever force which is the strength force, sage force, still force and speed force all in one
The fight will be Barry talking and getting his ass whooped several times throughout the season until the final season when he gets REALLY fast and barely pulls out a win but only because Iris West is his lightning rod
Other Flashes could beat Homelander but the CW one would conveniently forget about his speed long enough to have his head caved in.
The fact that Barry doesn’t need to physically hurt him from out side and can just phase hand like thauwn to stop his heart make that if he time it good with flashtime he one shot
14:22 Barry was just a few days, Weeks or months of experience with the powers, And The Cold gun is faster than him In That Episode & season
(The cold gun was made by Cisco)
CW flash's incompetence gets himself negged by homelander
Reverse Flash would just toy with homelander till he got bored and then just finish him
You are spot on, no one can defeat a well-trained speedster. That’s why the final episode of the flash series was so terrible. No way all of the flash’s sidekicks are going to take out the most evil speeders Barry has ever faced. Just ridiculous really.
Honestly, yeah you're so right the cw flash has shown how strong he can be and how makes him too op for the type of stories they put him in
Cut to every villain mysteriously running away and disappearing around the corner from a speedster LOL
barry is gonna spend like 2 episodes on something he could do in half a second
Barry takes talk no jutsu to the next level
If we're talking about CW Barry, he's getting wooped by homelander becuase of how dumb he is, we're talking about a speedster who lost to a regular guy with a freeze gun multiple times.
You say all this about the flash but forget the fact that during the show his speed is very inconsistent, there are times where Barry gets caught out easily by non speedsters
i forgot cw flash can phase so if he wants he can just take homelanders heart before he has time to even realise
Berry Allen literally have anti plot armor, his rogue gallery have all the plot armor 😂
CW Flash should be able to beat anyone but the writers make him dumb asf and lose to the trashiest villains
Bro sm of y'all seem to forget that this is the same Barry who is faster than time itself come on now
Barry: *Speeds upto homelander* Stop you are a good person
Homelander: Laser visions flash in half.
Flash infinite mass punch: is a move that the Flash performs by moving at a very high speed relative to another object, which causes his mass to increase towards infinity. This is due to the effects of the Lorentz factor, which states that as an object moves faster, its mass increases
Destructive Power: If The Flash were to strike someone with an infinite mass punch, the energy released would be beyond comprehension, likely causing catastrophic damage on a massive scale. The punch could theoretically exceed the energy of nuclear weapons or even more powerful cosmic phenomena.
Barry can travel back in time and kill him before he’s even born It would be extremely dark, but if we’re just talking about his powers and what he could do then time travel is his ultimate weapon
I don’t know if you’ve done this yet… but could you do an overview of the Ultimate (Marvel) Universe?
CW flash has so much plot devices and the writers just don’t want Bro to win so they nerf him
We acting like we haven’t seen CW flash generate kinetic energy without moving AND HE DID IT OFF OF PURE POTENTIAL ENERGY HOW
Why i feel like cw barry still wins is that the boys universe characters tend to have low durability so i think that since hes stronger and faster than thawne who before his max potential speed he could outrun superman so ill go ahead and say that barry wins high diff