@snail-q6107so uhh which kryptonite will ladybug use? the black one or the red one or both? but how does that work because Superman will get split into two people and one's gonna be good and the other's gonna be evil. will ladybug be able to control them both?
I'm not sure where this entire trend came from for random characters clowning on Homelander, but it makes me smile every time I see it. I hope to see many more of these. XD
13:25 that scene was still lowkey hardcore. Like girl, I know you just saw the latest insta that your crush got kissed by some girl, but damn, how much jealousy anger were you putting into that wooden sword?
Ladybug is one of those overpowered characters who can beat anyone despite not being able to do massive damage (she can't blow up a city or anything), she can beat anyone because her powers literally give her an object that will somehow defeat anyone. You can't beat her because she always gets the item she needs.
The thing is LB in her universe is pretty easy to defeat. It just needs one character with actual any amount of competence and the butterfly (as shown multiple times throughout the show, most recent with Lila in the London special).
@Markus2E5I6 most of her wins were influenced by Bunnix or a direct cause of it. And most of the times it was Gabriels incompetence. Lila however stole the butterfly and got rid of Bunnix in her first few minutes with it. The only reason she „lost“ is because Marinette risked everything multiple times with time resets and that Alix was in the rabbit hole. So yeah Marinette in her verse is relatively easy to pin down.
@@YoungmanZ-zt3urMiraculous users get super durable when they transform, so that’s not really a way to stop them. The real issue is anyone can just snatch their Miraculous jewelry😅, and then they’re totally cooked😂. Ladybug’s gotta figure out a way to keep people from messing with her earrings.
I also wanna put out there that reversing time DOES NOT STOP HER. They have shown in the show the episode Intuition, Monarch has off screen reversed time with the snake miraculous a butt ton of times only to be bested by Ladybug every, single, time. Thats scary. The right item 99.99 percent of the time. 13:46
@samularsaber7943 But hers is more powerful. The cat miraculous is side to rival it in power, but antime it gets out of hand, the ladybug miraculous has to beat it, but the other way around doesn't happen.
Most Akumatized villains could wipe John(Homelander). I can Only think of 2 scenarios where he doesn't get speed blitzed by ladybug without even needing lucky charm. 1, he is given a Miraculous. Or 2, after losing the first bout with ladybug and being flung across the city hawkmoth akumatizes him and since he presumably would have an alliance (or 10 with his ego) he gets miraculous powers on top of his transformation and still likely loses to ladybug
Ladybug sweeps for a multitude of reasons: - It's canonical that the miraculous' powers are only limited by the user themselves, meaning infinite potential power if you're able to overcome mental blockage - Ladybug's main power is summoning the exact item she needs to win against an opponent (though this is dependent on her figuring out how to use it, she is smart & always does) - She can reverse any damage caused by said opponent - If we're involving Chat Noir & his miraculous, she could theoretically just make a wish that completely rewrites the universe so Homelander doesn't exist - If we're involving Bunnix it's just over. With her, Ladybug can change the course of time and if Homelander isn't _supposed_ to defeat her & the correct timeline is threatened, Bunnix will step in. And bonus: in season 5 Ladybug loses her main disadvantage of having to transform back 5 minutes after using her main ability (not that this matters since she can usually defeat her opponent in that time), so she can now not only stay transformed indefinitely, but use her ability as many times as she wants
Forgot to mention these points: - She has powerups so she can adapt to any conditions - Her power is literally that of luck There's probably more I'm forgetting too 😭
@@Soapman18Yes actually if she has the black cat miraculous as well. Like I said with the two combined she can make literally any wish including one that erases Goku from existence (though something equally powerful to Goku would have to be created in order to take his place and keep balance)
@@ilikespaghetti4458 Dawg it's cannon that most miraculous users/holders have some form of reality manipulation, Lucky Charm is the best example of this BS, quote from Thomas, "Lucky Charm bends reality to the users will to summon an item/object to help achieve their end goal." Like dawg WTF
Crazy to think how many people sleep on Cat Blank as if he is not the villian who ALMOST ended the show 😭and still gives Ladybug chills when she thinks about him. I would like to see a Villian vs Villian for Cat Blank cuz i cant really see any of the new anime villians beat him with his AP
I do too. Cat blank was one of the BEST antagonists the show had to offer, even his special episode managed to fund the show for the rest of the month just for everyone to sleep and move past him. He could've just ended the entire show by literally MURDERING ladybug there and then, but he didn't because plot armor in the way of obsession. Seeing a 1v1 between a similar antagonist would be quite fun, if i do say so myself.
absolutely agree. two points: 1. dodging light beams does not mean being faster than light... you just have to be faster than the hand aiming the beam. if someone shoots a bullet at you and it doesn't hit, does it automatically mean that you perceived the bullet after it went out the barrel, reacted and moved away from it's trajectory in time? cause i would usually say someone just missed you (especially when you're moving quickly). furthermore, we don't know if these are magical light beams or energy blasts, which could (and seem to be) significantly slower. secondly. the horse miraculous. PORTALS ARE NOT QUICK TRAVEL, THEY ARE SHORTCUTS! when you go through a portal, you're not moving through all of the space between the two edges. you're exiting the space "system", and entering somewhere else. it's like going to the menu and selecting "open planet earth" instead of going through the game to get there.
@@nixian_zwaylus Okay, for the first point, I guess I didn't adequately explain why I selected those specific attacks because I did it in a different video, but all the attacks I show while talking about speed are ones that are provably light based and follow the properties of light. Like, one of the attacks is literally a magic camera flash. The funny thing is, I do have an example of then reacting to lasers that have already been fired and are right in their face. I just didn't put in the video. My bad. As for the second point, I wasn't really talking about the portal itself. I was talking about the speed of the magic beam that that created the portal.
@@JesseGolo that still doesn't mean they're faster than light. They're just dodging lasers, not outrunning them. Even if we assume that those lasers are actual lasers moving at the speed of light, the ones shooting them don't have perfect and instant aim. They just have to dodge the arm holding the laser, which's much slower than lightspeed. Also, we never see two ladybugs at once, which would happen if she moved faster than the speed of light towards the camera, nor is there ever any blue- or red-shifting when she moves towards or away from the camera, meaning she's not even close to the speed of light.
@felipevasconcelos6736 There's also the fact they can spin their weapons as shields fast enough to keep lasers from going through them and the galaxy feats. Your second paragraph isn't really relevant because that's not usually a requirement of lightspeed being portrayed on TV.
"And we havnt even gone into what the lucky charm has given her as its usually reserved for a challange" is crazy. Also finally someone sees how over powered she is
@@redrose9330 I mean, probably, but not even that. She can create magic artifacts that continue to exist and work even without her being Ladybug. And all she did was make charms that Hawkoth learned how to bypass after half a season and didn't become relevant again until the finale.
Key point to mention. The lucky charm power does not give you the exact item you need to overcome an opponent. Her power is luck. When she uses lucky charm it gives her an item that rigs the chances of certain things happening. When Mr. Bug happened we found out that the lucky charm adapts to be used by the holder. Ironically marinette's massive rube goldberg machines are her way of gaming the magic ability. Say you had an ability to make dice always land on the highest number possible. Other holders see that ability and try to get the biggest die they can to get the biggest result. Marinette decides to get as many dice involved as possible instead. Mr. Bug gets a bat and a lucky shot to the back of the head, ladybug gets a tube of lipstick and decides to toss it on the ground and get the enemy stuck in a beach umbrella so they stumble around and trip because of the lipstick.
I disagree. While you can say her power includes luck her power is essentially a item tailored to get to a goal For example when she used her power. To make adrien not dance with Chloe the lucky charm gave her a solution When she needs to get a new ally the lucky charm tells her
No it gives the item you need. When adrien used the ladybug miraculous his lucky charm was clever and direct because adrien doesn't overthink like Marinette does
Detail: Luvky charm is literally oberflowing with magical luck. She LITERALLY got the lady luck om her side. Ladybug is basically undeeatable. The only kind of thing that would be able to defeat her would be someone that could stop time AND have an even stronger version of cataclism.
Ladybug and her luckycharm can be beaten in various ways, it even happened several times in the series where she was saved by others. I agree that Ladybug wins this fight thanks to her intelligence, I just wanted to point out that she's not unbeatable
As of the season 5 finale I don’t think it’s close… she has access to all the other miraculous from her yo-yo and we also find out that her charm accounts for time travel
nah i cant beileve whatever the creators were on when they made this show have like the most powerful villians and heroes and everything inbetween that literally solos over half of fiction
@R.W.P. The only way villains had to stop him was a plan to dump him at the bottom of a lake while practically being a cement block. He said he'd be okay, but wouldn't be able to escape. He's been in space multiple times without a suit and been extremely screwed over from temperature, but once he's brought back he ends up being okay. Bro just doesn't have proper super strength or speed. He can theoretically use hysterical strength since his body will never break though.
The kwamii are creatures created when a new universals concept is made. Tikki being creation is one of the oldest and most powerful and is strongly implied to be responsible for the creation of the entire universe. If not just her then she was at least part of it. Even so, her counterpart and implied equal, plagg, is stated to be responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs. Her powers are not as destructive or have much attack power behind them, but the sheer near limitless potential of ladybug’s power is more than enough to beat homelander, even if she didn’t learn to use her lucky charm multible times.
If we want to be devlish she doesn’t even need the Ladybug. Honestly the pig is all you need. Just use it like Darker owl used it and watch as John either kills himself or how Marinette just beats him to death
Yeah, Miraculous power-scaling is ridiculous. Remember that time Chat/Cat Noir got akumatised and made a Cataclysm about 10 times larger than the Milky way? (When one the size of a person's head knocked down a skyscraper, and one the size of a several city blocks cut the moon in half)
The problem is Homelander has constant access to his powers. So if we assume they fight like in a boxing ring Marinette needs to first transform and than eat one of her Macarons she needs to take out of her Miraculous (because fun fact the Jojo is a portable infinite storage device and a phone on top). So even if we assume Ladybug being the combatant she won’t be able to fly as Homelander would snipe her access. Similar to her Lucky Charm. So honestly it would be a stalemate until one of them is too fatigued (as Tikki can’t channel infinite power into Marinette). But thats no fun. Now lets assume Homelander has the destructive power necessary to destroy a Miraculous (as it should be possible because of the bs season 4 was). Now imagine for a second that manages to do this. So because now unbound we have true form Tikki and Marinette falling. And we get a battle Homelander vs the Aspect of Creation. And then well he is dead. And because Homelander in this case is a villain Ladybug could reset the world later. One final example because why not. In Kuro Neko we learn (and later never see again) that the abilities of the Miraculous are determined by the holder (we see this in Long being both a Kwami and a Remling in the Shanghai special). And as each concept is vague enough to allow some loophole to oneshot John (like willing an exploding Antimatter bomb into existing or timetraveling to a time where John died of old age) its just so funny. So comment down below what would be the most fun way to defeat John. I go first: Using the bee miraculous which is the miraculous of domination and literally poking John into submission.
@@aetherwolf9288 I can’t really tell what you’re rambling about, but regardless of how much you want to reach homelander still doesn’t have any means of beating ladybug.
@@aetherwolf9288it will be easy. She significantly faster than him, and none of his attacks can even scratch her. Flying isn’t even an issue as she can fly as well (again at much greater speeds than homelander). And she has actual experience under her belt, while he doesn’t.
@ okay this tells me that you haven’t watched the video or read my comment. The only prove that she is faster than Homelander in base form is due to Startrain and those feats were done by Pegasus instead of Ladybug, also we later have confirmation about the speed in season 5 while being fast is not nearly as fast as light speed (I think the Aliance ring from her friend in the episode with Darker Owl showed her being able to travel something of 400 kilometers in 15 mins or something but not the marc speed of Homelander). So Startrain mainly was rule of cool and Astruc breaking his universe for the funnies. Then the thing that made Ladybug faster than Homelander is a Macaron she has limited amounts of (2 per upgrade) she needs to take out of her Jojo and eat. And similar to her Lucky Charm Homelander can snipe these things from her. So preventing her from eating it is all he needs to do. And again to repeat I don’t think Homelander wins this. Especially after Ladybug can stay her suit past Lucky charm. However I say they are in a stalemate where neither can defeat the other if Homelander doesn’t let her power up. But because of her experience and her endurance Ladybug can outlast Homelander so she can wait until he falls asleep. Then one Lucky charm is all it takes.
Same outcome. Ultimately, the kwamis represent the very forces of the universe itself. The more in-tune with those aspects of reality the holder is, the more they can use it. This means the holders are less "players in the match" and more "referees" or "officials" outside of the match. This is why the big bad of Miraculous has to be another holder, such a person is the only possible real threat.
The main way Lucky Charm fails besides having been taken away from is that whatever plan that she comes up with gets foiled before she can execute it. Going back to any plans that require allies, take said allies out of the equation and now her Lucky Charm is useless.
I have a theory that reason why the cataclysm destroyed the behemoth galette was because miraculouses’ weakness are other miraculouses . To be continued
This comment section is one of the best I've seen in freaking years. I think about mlb powers all the time and people are actually talking about it. I'm so happy 😭😄
The ladybug miraculous is way too overpowered, it's beatable, but it's so powerful, not even TIME TRAVEL is going to fix it. I blame the show for this because of how bad they're power-scaling is. The ladybug miraculous is SO extremely powerful that NO other miraculous is even needed anymore.
Like yeah it’s kinda hard to argue with a power that just gives the solution…like sure she needs to figure out how to use it but it still literally gives the solution to her.
The power scaling in ladybug kinda sucks, like, the butterfly miraculous is supposed to be weaker than the ladybug and black cat miraculous but can duplicate their powers without their weaknesses, as well as every other power. It has no time limit and ladybug and chat often needed to get power ups and back up to handle akumas, and that's not including the time hawkmoth created an Akuma that made him akumatize the entire city at the same time. And you can claim that Hawkmoth might only he this strong because he's an adult but in that case giving the strongest miraculouses to children is foolish. Either the ladybug and black cat are the strongest miraculouses of they aren't, you can't make the butterfly this op and say that it's somehow weaker than them.
The ladybug and cat miraculous are weaker because they are kids. I don't remember when, but it was said at some point that adult Ladybug and Chat Noir no longer need to depower, ear and repower again. About the Butterfly, it is insanely powerful. But since it can get completely nullified by the Ladybug, the latter automatically ranks higher once used by another person of the same power level. To be more concise: if the Ladybug miraculous was used by an adult Marinette with a slightly lower sense of morality than teen Marinette, Hawkmoth would have not lasted a week.
@@ofekma12345Ladybug has more powers, but Chat Noir's powers are more powerful. An engineer has a ton of different tools to terraform a planet. But a general only needs a few of the same nukes to completely destroy the same planet.
@@ofekma12345cat noir has night vision, can scale buildings, etc. and can use his cataclysm in multiple ways, obliteration, rusting, malfunctioning tech, but yeah. The power gap isn’t really far. Although he did destroy a macaroon several times the size of the earth with a power up using cataclysm if that means anything.
The ladybug and cat miraculous combined can grant you a wish that completely changes reality, so yeah they're definitely more powerful. Also the ladybug miraculous has specific powers that can combat the butterfly, including the power to de-akumatize. I think the butterfly can only mimic other Miraculous' powers or give the akumatized person something similar, as one Kwami cannot copy another Kwami's ability exactly. The only reason ladybug and chat noir had a time limit is because they were kids. They actually lose this disadvantage in season 5
About the Horse the beam it Didn't actually move faster than the Train He was already on the train and was moving 8 billion times light speed before he shot the beam Kind of like when you fire a bullet while on a plane The Projectiles speed adds on to your initial speed
That's what I would assume... if it was a bullet. But it was a ray, and it wasn't physically connected to anything on the train, just fired from the air around his wrist, so there wouldn't be the initial speed transfer.
What about Madoka Kaname vs Homelander? Or Homura Akemi vs Homelander? (I mean, I know Madoka can beat him easily but she's EXTREMELY merciful and Homura isn't but I would like to see the powerscale. And I'm talking about both their magical girl and ultimate forms)
No one can defeat Ladybug with her Lucky Charm, but if she alter to use it for bad purposes, she eventually will loose and the lucky charm will find it's way to be used for the greater good makin the user do things for the better.
Wait If blanc's anything to go by then if hawkmoth akumaized homelander would he then be far stronger then most villians in the show? Since it seems having powers before hand makes you stronger akumaized
Love how you say “Marinette” instead of “Ladybug” cuz honestly, Homelander is so pathetic when compared to other characters from different universes he might as well lose to a teenager lol
Today we're ganna see who will win between robin from teen Titans go and the entirety of jjk, aot, invincible, tlou, l4d, doom, elden ring, dark souls, and bluey
The thing is about ladybug , her powers are giving her a garrunteed win but she gotta find out how to do it but after a while she gets hints , its like hakaris powers , where is seems fair but in reality it isnt
Ladybug is smart, creative, adapts to situations crazy fast and has an overpowered ability with his partner also having an overpowered ability and pretty smart himself when he tries. Homelander is screwed.
Also noir wasn't as close to the epicenter, but I did find calcs that imply noir casually tanked large building levels worth of energy, but it does still make homelanders city-multi city block estimates consistent
Though Ladybug is controversial due to her absurd luck and how her powers work. Miraculous can work in powerscaling like with cat noir, who can destroy a gallete bigger than the earth itself with his cataclysm instantly and Monarch has tanked the cataclysm and survived from it for many weeks. plenty of ftl speeds from pixelator's camera flash, laser reactions and even galaxy-crossing feats.
Yall forget that ladybug has a friend that can interfere with time if ladybug is in danger She can literally put you in a clip and put herself in every advantagous place to win over you
Yea your fav loses if their opponent is a magical girl lol. For example, sailor moon evaporates goku. And I say that as a goku enjoyer and not a big fan of sailor moon.
Interesting, I've never heard of this and I don't know enough about Sailor Moon to weigh in, but it sounds like a very interesting fight. Also because although I like Dragonball, I find that most of its fandom overestimates the strength of the characters
If you mean Z goku,that kinda true But not for super goku Since Sailor moon best feats is she transcend space and time(not concept) and reset the universe several time(which is 5D) (If you disagree You can give me your scan and scaling, since i might miss some part of her feats) Super goku scale higher than inf zamasu who merged with An entire time line Timeline in DB include :living world(where most of the story take part in)->Death zone/super dimension(a hyperspace so it would be 5D)->after life(transcend all those realm and have Inf size so it would be inf 6D)->Neutral zone which hold 12 Inf size 6D structures(12 Universe) and make them seperate with each other so it would be 7D->Zeno palace view the entire Multiverse and neutral zone as small sphere/small chess board despite they have Inf in size so it would be 8D->the time line would be 9D So goku is 9D(this is the high end scaling) For mid end scaling he would be inf 6->Inf 7D (Source Databook,Interview,the anime itself,...) And before saying im overrated the character ,pls debunk my scaling first and debunk with real scan not head canon.
@@lamluyt7630 to me power scalling only makes sense for comparing similar things like which energy beam is more powerful. Using it in general for characters I don't think is the best way to imagine a versus
@lamichevolediquartiere5954 for me as long as you understand what characters can and can't do It find for crossverse powerscaling But i respect your opinion.
One thing, if you're on an object moving near light speed, and you fire a projectile from it, to an outside observer that projectile would also be moving at light speed. Time dilation makes these things weird. Of course Ladybug is going to win, she has literally half the power of god.
Talking about speedblitz here since Homlander goes immediately for the kill, unlike Akumas who take their takes chatting, so yeah, catching off gaurd can be a scenario here
@al9it_al9at9ot not going to happen. Homelander is too slow to speedblitz ladybug. He’s hypersonic at best, while ladybug has ftl feats. I’m guessing you haven’t watched the video, as it describes how fast both characters can go. Also akuma do go for the kill.
Almost all miraculouses given the right hero with experience and unbound limits to thwir power could destroy homelander, Argos(felix) could juat make a homelander that's just better no matter what
Should I do more powerscaling videos? I have a few ideas of characters I wanna slam into each other.
yeah and do more video essays of miraclous please i am begging you
omg definitely. and more video essays on miraculous, your rewrite on the magic system alone inspired me to make my short movie
@@AlfaJuegaYT yeah
Yh, do a video scaling Star Butterfly tier
@@happyking2895 yeah
Ladybug: "fighting superman*
*LUCKY CHARM!*
*gets a big ass bag full of pure kryptonite* 🙏💀
Real
Still gets speed blitzed before she can use it.
Pretty sure everything she gets is red and black so itd be red and black kryptonite.
@snail-q6107so uhh which kryptonite will ladybug use? the black one or the red one or both? but how does that work because Superman will get split into two people and one's gonna be good and the other's gonna be evil. will ladybug be able to control them both?
Fun Fact: it is confirmed that the narrative of the comics will change to make him win
Ladybug is overpowered, not because of her strength or speed, but her ability, aside from creation, is literally LUCK. You cannot beat the fates.
Even One Piece believes such a thing when a non-canon villain’s power is literally *altering luck.*
Plot armor is her superpower 😭
I'm not sure where this entire trend came from for random characters clowning on Homelander, but it makes me smile every time I see it.
I hope to see many more of these. XD
Mickey mouse vs Homelander
Mickey mouse vs Homelander.
@@EstherUwah-km7wbIf we're talking Kingdom Hearts Mickey, it's an absolute sweep
@@EstherUwah-km7wb any cartoon characters are quite immune from fatal injuries (cartoon logic).
Anything to clown on Homelander.
13:25 that scene was still lowkey hardcore.
Like girl, I know you just saw the latest insta that your crush got kissed by some girl, but damn, how much jealousy anger were you putting into that wooden sword?
Ladybug is one of those overpowered characters who can beat anyone despite not being able to do massive damage (she can't blow up a city or anything), she can beat anyone because her powers literally give her an object that will somehow defeat anyone.
You can't beat her because she always gets the item she needs.
@Markus2E5I6 this video describes pretty well how she can beat homelander up without an item provided by the lucky charm.
The thing is LB in her universe is pretty easy to defeat.
It just needs one character with actual any amount of competence and the butterfly (as shown multiple times throughout the show, most recent with Lila in the London special).
@@aetherwolf9288 she has never once been defeated without winning anyway and that was when she was a beginner.
@Markus2E5I6 most of her wins were influenced by Bunnix or a direct cause of it.
And most of the times it was Gabriels incompetence.
Lila however stole the butterfly and got rid of Bunnix in her first few minutes with it. The only reason she „lost“ is because Marinette risked everything multiple times with time resets and that Alix was in the rabbit hole.
So yeah Marinette in her verse is relatively easy to pin down.
@aetherwolf9288 but that's because Lila did it sneakily and LB didn't even know the butterfly miraculous was still in use.
Ladybug would just summon a mirror lucky charm, and just deflect Homelanders heat vision back to him 😭
LMAO I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY THIS
No he'll just cry looking at himself
Homelanders the type of guy to just choke her out, also hes immune to his own heat vision
@@YoungmanZ-zt3urMiraculous users get super durable when they transform, so that’s not really a way to stop them. The real issue is anyone can just snatch their Miraculous jewelry😅, and then they’re totally cooked😂. Ladybug’s gotta figure out a way to keep people from messing with her earrings.
@@YoungmanZ-zt3ur ladybug was ragdolled in a good handful of episodes. I think a choking wouldn’t do much besides restraining her
I also wanna put out there that reversing time DOES NOT STOP HER. They have shown in the show the episode Intuition, Monarch has off screen reversed time with the snake miraculous a butt ton of times only to be bested by Ladybug every, single, time. Thats scary. The right item 99.99 percent of the time. 13:46
Yes bro, they downing her like they didn't know how her luck works
The phrasing makes it seem like ladybug is evil 😭
@@AboveElysium you're kinda right ;-;
Yeah only once she did not get an object with her lucky charm
@@AboveElysium why? Villain with 98% chance of winning is unstoppable, but when a hero has that chance is evil 🤣
MLB has one of the worst powerscaling ever. There's really no reason for any other miraculous when the ladybug can summon a lucky, mystery item.
because the other miraculous have abilities that the ladybug miraculous is unable to.
@samularsaber7943 But hers is more powerful. The cat miraculous is side to rival it in power, but antime it gets out of hand, the ladybug miraculous has to beat it, but the other way around doesn't happen.
I really feel like BlackCat should also be able to de akumatize. Like he destroys the evil.
You know if they're like the Ring Masters of the Kwamis
@tirramasu7948 The only way he does it is by destroying the akuma, like in Chat Blanc.
@@tirramasu7948He technically can, I remember an episode where he just catclysmed the akuma
Most Akumatized villains could wipe John(Homelander).
I can Only think of 2 scenarios where he doesn't get speed blitzed by ladybug without even needing lucky charm.
1, he is given a Miraculous.
Or 2, after losing the first bout with ladybug and being flung across the city hawkmoth akumatizes him and since he presumably would have an alliance (or 10 with his ego) he gets miraculous powers on top of his transformation and still likely loses to ladybug
Not to mention, most of the villains have super durability.
I think an easy one would be the pharaoh, zombizoo, or glitter lady.
considering she defeated Cat Blanc I'm pretty sure even if Homelander was given a miraculous *and* akumatized he'd still lose to Ladybug
Ladybug sweeps for a multitude of reasons:
- It's canonical that the miraculous' powers are only limited by the user themselves, meaning infinite potential power if you're able to overcome mental blockage
- Ladybug's main power is summoning the exact item she needs to win against an opponent (though this is dependent on her figuring out how to use it, she is smart & always does)
- She can reverse any damage caused by said opponent
- If we're involving Chat Noir & his miraculous, she could theoretically just make a wish that completely rewrites the universe so Homelander doesn't exist
- If we're involving Bunnix it's just over. With her, Ladybug can change the course of time and if Homelander isn't _supposed_ to defeat her & the correct timeline is threatened, Bunnix will step in.
And bonus: in season 5 Ladybug loses her main disadvantage of having to transform back 5 minutes after using her main ability (not that this matters since she can usually defeat her opponent in that time), so she can now not only stay transformed indefinitely, but use her ability as many times as she wants
Forgot to mention these points:
- She has powerups so she can adapt to any conditions
- Her power is literally that of luck
There's probably more I'm forgetting too 😭
@@ilikespaghetti4458 But can she beat goku tho? 🤓
@@Soapman18nope
@@Soapman18Yes actually if she has the black cat miraculous as well. Like I said with the two combined she can make literally any wish including one that erases Goku from existence (though something equally powerful to Goku would have to be created in order to take his place and keep balance)
@@ilikespaghetti4458 Dawg it's cannon that most miraculous users/holders have some form of reality manipulation, Lucky Charm is the best example of this BS, quote from Thomas, "Lucky Charm bends reality to the users will to summon an item/object to help achieve their end goal." Like dawg WTF
Crazy to think how many people sleep on Cat Blank as if he is not the villian who ALMOST ended the show 😭and still gives Ladybug chills when she thinks about him. I would like to see a Villian vs Villian for Cat Blank cuz i cant really see any of the new anime villians beat him with his AP
I do too.
Cat blank was one of the BEST antagonists the show had to offer, even his special episode managed to fund the show for the rest of the month just for everyone to sleep and move past him.
He could've just ended the entire show by literally MURDERING ladybug there and then, but he didn't because plot armor in the way of obsession.
Seeing a 1v1 between a similar antagonist would be quite fun, if i do say so myself.
It’s Blanc and not Blank
🤓☝️@skytheemperor
I mean. Cat blanc has universal DC and basically Hakai from DBZ
I mean he scales to TTGL levels, which kinda breaks powerscaling.
absolutely agree.
two points:
1. dodging light beams does not mean being faster than light... you just have to be faster than the hand aiming the beam. if someone shoots a bullet at you and it doesn't hit, does it automatically mean that you perceived the bullet after it went out the barrel, reacted and moved away from it's trajectory in time? cause i would usually say someone just missed you (especially when you're moving quickly).
furthermore, we don't know if these are magical light beams or energy blasts, which could (and seem to be) significantly slower.
secondly. the horse miraculous. PORTALS ARE NOT QUICK TRAVEL, THEY ARE SHORTCUTS!
when you go through a portal, you're not moving through all of the space between the two edges.
you're exiting the space "system", and entering somewhere else.
it's like going to the menu and selecting "open planet earth" instead of going through the game to get there.
@@nixian_zwaylus Okay, for the first point, I guess I didn't adequately explain why I selected those specific attacks because I did it in a different video, but all the attacks I show while talking about speed are ones that are provably light based and follow the properties of light. Like, one of the attacks is literally a magic camera flash.
The funny thing is, I do have an example of then reacting to lasers that have already been fired and are right in their face. I just didn't put in the video. My bad.
As for the second point, I wasn't really talking about the portal itself. I was talking about the speed of the magic beam that that created the portal.
They've blocked and dodged lazers point blank several times
@@JesseGolo that still doesn't mean they're faster than light. They're just dodging lasers, not outrunning them. Even if we assume that those lasers are actual lasers moving at the speed of light, the ones shooting them don't have perfect and instant aim. They just have to dodge the arm holding the laser, which's much slower than lightspeed.
Also, we never see two ladybugs at once, which would happen if she moved faster than the speed of light towards the camera, nor is there ever any blue- or red-shifting when she moves towards or away from the camera, meaning she's not even close to the speed of light.
@felipevasconcelos6736 There's also the fact they can spin their weapons as shields fast enough to keep lasers from going through them and the galaxy feats.
Your second paragraph isn't really relevant because that's not usually a requirement of lightspeed being portrayed on TV.
@@felipevasconcelos6736 that second section doesn't remotely matter
And again they've DODGED point blank
I have never seen a video that is both extremely left field and made specifically for me at the same time. Thank you.
"And we havnt even gone into what the lucky charm has given her as its usually reserved for a challange" is crazy. Also finally someone sees how over powered she is
Its just a running gag at this point that Homelander is weak compared to literally every fictional character
*Most* fictional characters.
olimar vs homelander !!!!
The show literally stated that the ladybug miraculous can create ANYTHING, the limits are only the limits you put on yourself according to the show
@@nitroblaze6696 I still can't believe how much Marinette did not utilize that fact.
@@JesseGoloI'm guessing ur thinking like Ladybug will somehow create a lucky charm that can literally tract Monarch or Gabriel 🤣😜
@@redrose9330Marinette is dumb so ifk
@@redrose9330 I mean, probably, but not even that. She can create magic artifacts that continue to exist and work even without her being Ladybug. And all she did was make charms that Hawkoth learned how to bypass after half a season and didn't become relevant again until the finale.
@@JesseGolo can't see ur point if it wasn't my idea earlier I've mentioned 🤣, can you care to at least state an idea u thought
I can imagine her fighting evil!superman and the lucky charm just hands her some kryptonite 😂
@@deegloss The only way that might not work is if there's a more complicated and convoluted way she can win.
@@JesseGolo i mean between homelander and ladybug she's cooked unless they're in paris
Would luv to imagine that
@@rubenlohata5263why would her being in Paris or not matter? She as strong anywhere in the world as she is in Paris.
@samularsaber7943 her allies and her best episodes are when she uses her surroundings to defeat the villian like dropping the eiffel tower on them
Key point to mention. The lucky charm power does not give you the exact item you need to overcome an opponent. Her power is luck. When she uses lucky charm it gives her an item that rigs the chances of certain things happening. When Mr. Bug happened we found out that the lucky charm adapts to be used by the holder.
Ironically marinette's massive rube goldberg machines are her way of gaming the magic ability. Say you had an ability to make dice always land on the highest number possible. Other holders see that ability and try to get the biggest die they can to get the biggest result. Marinette decides to get as many dice involved as possible instead. Mr. Bug gets a bat and a lucky shot to the back of the head, ladybug gets a tube of lipstick and decides to toss it on the ground and get the enemy stuck in a beach umbrella so they stumble around and trip because of the lipstick.
I disagree. While you can say her power includes luck her power is essentially a item tailored to get to a goal
For example when she used her power. To make adrien not dance with Chloe the lucky charm gave her a solution
When she needs to get a new ally the lucky charm tells her
No it gives the item you need. When adrien used the ladybug miraculous his lucky charm was clever and direct because adrien doesn't overthink like Marinette does
Detail: Luvky charm is literally oberflowing with magical luck. She LITERALLY got the lady luck om her side. Ladybug is basically undeeatable. The only kind of thing that would be able to defeat her would be someone that could stop time AND have an even stronger version of cataclism.
Ladybug and her luckycharm can be beaten in various ways, it even happened several times in the series where she was saved by others. I agree that Ladybug wins this fight thanks to her intelligence, I just wanted to point out that she's not unbeatable
Agreed she has the power to win almost any fight bc she doesn’t turn back anymore and she can also choose her charm but she has to much emotion
As of the season 5 finale I don’t think it’s close… she has access to all the other miraculous from her yo-yo and we also find out that her charm accounts for time travel
@@MischiefMakerMarcy Ladybug gave all the miraculous to the other heroes so she no longer has access to them
@lamichevolediquartiere5954no I think it meant that they plan for time travel
@lamichevolediquartiere5954 he meant fresh out of the battle with monarch before distributing them
nah i cant beileve whatever the creators were on when they made this show have like the most powerful villians and heroes and everything inbetween that literally solos over half of fiction
Luck charme:what do you want???
Ladybug: a magic lamp that gives me omnipotence
We putting homelander against anyone now✋😭
Homelander vs Captain Man would go crazy
@sthG3rson Indestructible Idiot vs Almost Indestructible Psycho smashing into each other until one (Homelander) loses
Ray is beating that 🥷's ass.
@@tornadophantom4027captain man when homelands drowns him:
@R.W.P. Captain Man actually doesn't need air
@R.W.P. The only way villains had to stop him was a plan to dump him at the bottom of a lake while practically being a cement block.
He said he'd be okay, but wouldn't be able to escape.
He's been in space multiple times without a suit and been extremely screwed over from temperature, but once he's brought back he ends up being okay.
Bro just doesn't have proper super strength or speed. He can theoretically use hysterical strength since his body will never break though.
bro had to make it fair for home lander
Let's Akumatise homelander and at least give him a chance to win (a near nonexistent chance)
The kwamii are creatures created when a new universals concept is made. Tikki being creation is one of the oldest and most powerful and is strongly implied to be responsible for the creation of the entire universe. If not just her then she was at least part of it. Even so, her counterpart and implied equal, plagg, is stated to be responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs. Her powers are not as destructive or have much attack power behind them, but the sheer near limitless potential of ladybug’s power is more than enough to beat homelander, even if she didn’t learn to use her lucky charm multible times.
Say what you want about Marinette, but I’d want to see her absolutely crush Homelander
If we want to be devlish she doesn’t even need the Ladybug.
Honestly the pig is all you need.
Just use it like Darker owl used it and watch as John either kills himself or how Marinette just beats him to death
her power litearlly gives the thing she needs to defeat the villian and she has beaten aombody who manipulates time in the last mirculos world
@Pokedexentry the reason she survived against Lila however is because of Bunnix.
Its not a feat base Ladybug had
Honestly the idea of homelander geeking our cause he's losing to a French Asian teen wearing spandex is funny af
People forget kadybug is that powerfull but the consequenc us the stress 18:05
Yeah, Miraculous power-scaling is ridiculous. Remember that time Chat/Cat Noir got akumatised and made a Cataclysm about 10 times larger than the Milky way? (When one the size of a person's head knocked down a skyscraper, and one the size of a several city blocks cut the moon in half)
it's always the kid show superheroes that are overpowered 💀
The problem is Homelander has constant access to his powers.
So if we assume they fight like in a boxing ring Marinette needs to first transform and than eat one of her Macarons she needs to take out of her Miraculous (because fun fact the Jojo is a portable infinite storage device and a phone on top).
So even if we assume Ladybug being the combatant she won’t be able to fly as Homelander would snipe her access. Similar to her Lucky Charm.
So honestly it would be a stalemate until one of them is too fatigued (as Tikki can’t channel infinite power into Marinette).
But thats no fun.
Now lets assume Homelander has the destructive power necessary to destroy a Miraculous (as it should be possible because of the bs season 4 was).
Now imagine for a second that manages to do this.
So because now unbound we have true form Tikki and Marinette falling.
And we get a battle Homelander vs the Aspect of Creation.
And then well he is dead.
And because Homelander in this case is a villain Ladybug could reset the world later.
One final example because why not.
In Kuro Neko we learn (and later never see again) that the abilities of the Miraculous are determined by the holder (we see this in Long being both a Kwami and a Remling in the Shanghai special).
And as each concept is vague enough to allow some loophole to oneshot John (like willing an exploding Antimatter bomb into existing or timetraveling to a time where John died of old age) its just so funny.
So comment down below what would be the most fun way to defeat John.
I go first: Using the bee miraculous which is the miraculous of domination and literally poking John into submission.
@@aetherwolf9288 I can’t really tell what you’re rambling about, but regardless of how much you want to reach homelander still doesn’t have any means of beating ladybug.
@ Yeah I agree. She will still win. But its not that easy as you may think at first thats all
@@aetherwolf9288it will be easy.
She significantly faster than him, and none of his attacks can even scratch her.
Flying isn’t even an issue as she can fly as well (again at much greater speeds than homelander).
And she has actual experience under her belt, while he doesn’t.
Pov :you did not watch s5
@ okay this tells me that you haven’t watched the video or read my comment.
The only prove that she is faster than Homelander in base form is due to Startrain and those feats were done by Pegasus instead of Ladybug, also we later have confirmation about the speed in season 5 while being fast is not nearly as fast as light speed (I think the Aliance ring from her friend in the episode with Darker Owl showed her being able to travel something of 400 kilometers in 15 mins or something but not the marc speed of Homelander).
So Startrain mainly was rule of cool and Astruc breaking his universe for the funnies.
Then the thing that made Ladybug faster than Homelander is a Macaron she has limited amounts of (2 per upgrade) she needs to take out of her Jojo and eat.
And similar to her Lucky Charm Homelander can snipe these things from her.
So preventing her from eating it is all he needs to do.
And again to repeat I don’t think Homelander wins this. Especially after Ladybug can stay her suit past Lucky charm.
However I say they are in a stalemate where neither can defeat the other if Homelander doesn’t let her power up.
But because of her experience and her endurance Ladybug can outlast Homelander so she can wait until he falls asleep. Then one Lucky charm is all it takes.
Fun analysis video! Nice to see some Miraculous Ladybug respect! Thanks for uploading!
OMNIMAN VS LADYBUG PLEASE
We need this.
Same outcome. Ultimately, the kwamis represent the very forces of the universe itself. The more in-tune with those aspects of reality the holder is, the more they can use it. This means the holders are less "players in the match" and more "referees" or "officials" outside of the match. This is why the big bad of Miraculous has to be another holder, such a person is the only possible real threat.
@@themythmaker1248 omni man has more feats so it will be more interesting
@themythmaker1248 except omni man is way faster and more durable than homelander
@@themythmaker1248 omni guy diverted an asteroid the size of texas, survived nukes and destroyed planets before so the outcome will be different
14:15 damn , that came out of no where 😂
@@JT_The_Banana I mean, it's true. The Miraculous Ladybug heals any injuries she may inflict.
The main way Lucky Charm fails besides having been taken away from is that whatever plan that she comes up with gets foiled before she can execute it. Going back to any plans that require allies, take said allies out of the equation and now her Lucky Charm is useless.
I have a theory that reason why the cataclysm destroyed the behemoth galette was because miraculouses’ weakness are other miraculouses . To be continued
This comment section is one of the best I've seen in freaking years. I think about mlb powers all the time and people are actually talking about it. I'm so happy 😭😄
The ladybug miraculous is way too overpowered, it's beatable, but it's so powerful, not even TIME TRAVEL is going to fix it. I blame the show for this because of how bad they're power-scaling is. The ladybug miraculous is SO extremely powerful that NO other miraculous is even needed anymore.
Suposedly the Cat Noir miraculous should be as strong, one can create anything and the other can destroy anything
can she beat goku tho
@@fulana_de_tal The thing is every time that they fought Ladybug easily won
@@Justaguythatcameby yeah, but that's not what should have supposedly happened, mlb is just extremely inconsistent
@monkeyboi she no diff Goku
It's all shits and giggles until Ladybug learns how to spam lucky charm
.... this will be just evil
Homelander versus Doraemon.
Like yeah it’s kinda hard to argue with a power that just gives the solution…like sure she needs to figure out how to use it but it still literally gives the solution to her.
Sometimes its straight forward and Sometimes it just makes her burn brain cells
Now here is the ultimate question.
Popeye + spinach vs Ladybug + lucky charm
Who’d win and how and why?
The power scaling in ladybug kinda sucks, like, the butterfly miraculous is supposed to be weaker than the ladybug and black cat miraculous but can duplicate their powers without their weaknesses, as well as every other power. It has no time limit and ladybug and chat often needed to get power ups and back up to handle akumas, and that's not including the time hawkmoth created an Akuma that made him akumatize the entire city at the same time.
And you can claim that Hawkmoth might only he this strong because he's an adult but in that case giving the strongest miraculouses to children is foolish.
Either the ladybug and black cat are the strongest miraculouses of they aren't, you can't make the butterfly this op and say that it's somehow weaker than them.
Not to mention how despite the black cat miraculous supposing to be the ladybug's equal, Ladybug has more powers.
The ladybug and cat miraculous are weaker because they are kids. I don't remember when, but it was said at some point that adult Ladybug and Chat Noir no longer need to depower, ear and repower again.
About the Butterfly, it is insanely powerful. But since it can get completely nullified by the Ladybug, the latter automatically ranks higher once used by another person of the same power level.
To be more concise: if the Ladybug miraculous was used by an adult Marinette with a slightly lower sense of morality than teen Marinette, Hawkmoth would have not lasted a week.
@@ofekma12345Ladybug has more powers, but Chat Noir's powers are more powerful. An engineer has a ton of different tools to terraform a planet. But a general only needs a few of the same nukes to completely destroy the same planet.
@@ofekma12345cat noir has night vision, can scale buildings, etc. and can use his cataclysm in multiple ways, obliteration, rusting, malfunctioning tech, but yeah. The power gap isn’t really far. Although he did destroy a macaroon several times the size of the earth with a power up using cataclysm if that means anything.
The ladybug and cat miraculous combined can grant you a wish that completely changes reality, so yeah they're definitely more powerful. Also the ladybug miraculous has specific powers that can combat the butterfly, including the power to de-akumatize.
I think the butterfly can only mimic other Miraculous' powers or give the akumatized person something similar, as one Kwami cannot copy another Kwami's ability exactly.
The only reason ladybug and chat noir had a time limit is because they were kids. They actually lose this disadvantage in season 5
Ladybug's op, but even the pig or the bee miraculous i believe can end it if played right
If you include the multiversal aspects and gave her all the kwami’s I think she might actually be one of the characters closest to Goku
Ladybug genuinely has the power of plot armour with that lucky charm, homelander is just scared of looking bad to the public
first ever lady bug verses battle i'v seen 😎
About the Horse the beam it Didn't actually move faster than the Train
He was already on the train and was moving 8 billion times light speed before he shot the beam
Kind of like when you fire a bullet while on a plane
The Projectiles speed adds on to your initial speed
That's what I would assume... if it was a bullet. But it was a ray, and it wasn't physically connected to anything on the train, just fired from the air around his wrist, so there wouldn't be the initial speed transfer.
Ladybug one shots
What about Madoka Kaname vs Homelander? Or Homura Akemi vs Homelander? (I mean, I know Madoka can beat him easily but she's EXTREMELY merciful and Homura isn't but I would like to see the powerscale. And I'm talking about both their magical girl and ultimate forms)
No one can defeat Ladybug with her Lucky Charm, but if she alter to use it for bad purposes, she eventually will loose and the lucky charm will find it's way to be used for the greater good makin the user do things for the better.
Homelander is NEVER gonna stop getting put up against goofy oppenents like this☠️
Wait
If blanc's anything to go by then if hawkmoth akumaized homelander would he then be far stronger then most villians in the show?
Since it seems having powers before hand makes you stronger akumaized
It depends of how strong homelander's emotions are
I think it depends on what power they're given
Was jumpscared by dr stone op in the background, okey, you know how to get people keep watching
I think I discovered a new level for the "random" word
Future me, does Marinette wash Homelander?
Absolutely
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Love how you say “Marinette” instead of “Ladybug” cuz honestly, Homelander is so pathetic when compared to other characters from different universes he might as well lose to a teenager lol
@popstel2286 yeah the fact that monarch(hawkmoth) did lost to literal teenagers with no powers It means Homelander Can do that too
JAYCE IRL
13:26 Well kagami is not human so i wouldnt say no powers
Wellll she wad made to be human... Added on to be perfect but she isn't so
i love how everyone just clowns on homelander and fans of homelander are just like "yeah that tracks" and join in
les be real. SPIDERMAN IS BEATING HOMELANDER NEVER GONNA CHANGE MY MIND
I agree even if the flight and the heat vision against the webs would give him a hard time
subscribed immediately after I saw that EAH scene. I see you buddy, I see you
@@CatwHolyWater If you like EAH, maybe you should check out my video on it.
Imagine if she was fighting someone like the hulk
and her lucky charm gives her a therapist.
durability doesn’t matter if she has access to the black cat miraculous since it’s an endless one shot ability if she has the intent to off someone
How much more embarrassing is his ass gonna kick.
If they were going all out, I don't think HomeLander would survive more than 10 seconds
I find it really funny that Homelander is constantly and consistently outplayed by basically any given hero of another story.
Today we're ganna see who will win between robin from teen Titans go and the entirety of jjk, aot, invincible, tlou, l4d, doom, elden ring, dark souls, and bluey
The thing is about ladybug , her powers are giving her a garrunteed win but she gotta find out how to do it but after a while she gets hints , its like hakaris powers , where is seems fair but in reality it isnt
Ladybug is smart, creative, adapts to situations crazy fast and has an overpowered ability with his partner also having an overpowered ability and pretty smart himself when he tries. Homelander is screwed.
and we haven't even gone to what the lucky charm may give her because it is reserved for challenges.
BOOM ROASTED
What episode was at -8:19
@@Privatelocked-k5s Emotion
What about Sebastian, Hes part Mantis Shrimp and wields a sawed off Shot Gun as a Pistol
Also noir wasn't as close to the epicenter, but I did find calcs that imply noir casually tanked large building levels worth of energy, but it does still make homelanders city-multi city block estimates consistent
@@deathbrine-ht9rf Yeah, I figured, but I thought, "I'm putting him up against someone with at least planetary durability. Let me be generous."
@JesseGolo If you really wanted you could say he's country level because he's a threat to America
12:15 I disagree with the horse miraculous claim. Max was within Star Train's inertial reference frame
Lets not forget she had her powers for 9 months by the end of season 5
Congrats to Universal Queen Ladybug / Marinette for destroying city level Homelander!
Though Ladybug is controversial due to her absurd luck and how her powers work. Miraculous can work in powerscaling like with cat noir, who can destroy a gallete bigger than the earth itself with his cataclysm instantly and Monarch has tanked the cataclysm and survived from it for many weeks. plenty of ftl speeds from pixelator's camera flash, laser reactions and even galaxy-crossing feats.
1:50 I have never watched the boys. THE CEO IS GUSTAVO FRING???
Apparently, this comment reminded me to finish breaking bad
Yall forget that ladybug has a friend that can interfere with time if ladybug is in danger
She can literally put you in a clip and put herself in every advantagous place to win over you
Is the background sound from Dr. Stone season 2: Rakuen?
@@Unknown-GT8 Yes.
who is that random next to the ladybug
Gang is getting TOUCHED!!
I wish we get a Death battle cast of this
I remember seeing some scene where cat noir strait up cooked a galaxy or some shit and i was like tf is going on
nah you got it all wrong. she'd trip on her foot and blame it on Homelander and get her gang to fight them for her.
Who DOESNT beat homelander at this point 💀
When did they show the universe entity part when did I miss this
so cool i had to subscribe
So Bunnex is immortal, just wow.
ladybug stomps
Yea your fav loses if their opponent is a magical girl lol. For example, sailor moon evaporates goku. And I say that as a goku enjoyer and not a big fan of sailor moon.
Interesting, I've never heard of this and I don't know enough about Sailor Moon to weigh in, but it sounds like a very interesting fight. Also because although I like Dragonball, I find that most of its fandom overestimates the strength of the characters
If you mean Z goku,that kinda true
But not for super goku
Since Sailor moon best feats is she transcend space and time(not concept) and reset the universe several time(which is 5D)
(If you disagree You can give me your scan and scaling, since i might miss some part of her feats)
Super goku scale higher than inf zamasu who merged with An entire time line
Timeline in DB include :living world(where most of the story take part in)->Death zone/super dimension(a hyperspace so it would be 5D)->after life(transcend all those realm and have Inf size so it would be inf 6D)->Neutral zone which hold 12 Inf size 6D structures(12 Universe) and make them seperate with each other so it would be 7D->Zeno palace view the entire Multiverse and neutral zone as small sphere/small chess board despite they have Inf in size so it would be 8D->the time line would be 9D
So goku is 9D(this is the high end scaling)
For mid end scaling he would be inf 6->Inf 7D
(Source Databook,Interview,the anime itself,...)
And before saying im overrated the character ,pls debunk my scaling first and debunk with real scan not head canon.
@@lamluyt7630 to me power scalling only makes sense for comparing similar things like which energy beam is more powerful. Using it in general for characters I don't think is the best way to imagine a versus
@lamichevolediquartiere5954 for me as long as you understand what characters can and can't do
It find for crossverse powerscaling
But i respect your opinion.
Goku slams Sailor moon. We can discuss it. Dimensionality trumps hax anyday and Goku can negate hax with his power alone
Wel Leidi Bog VS Bat Man
One thing, if you're on an object moving near light speed, and you fire a projectile from it, to an outside observer that projectile would also be moving at light speed.
Time dilation makes these things weird.
Of course Ladybug is going to win, she has literally half the power of god.
Look I know this battle might sound stupid can you do a battle between Darth maul vs monarch or Maura aka Natalie sancoeur
Talking about speedblitz here since Homlander goes immediately for the kill, unlike Akumas who take their takes chatting, so yeah, catching off gaurd can be a scenario here
@al9it_al9at9ot not going to happen.
Homelander is too slow to speedblitz ladybug.
He’s hypersonic at best, while ladybug has ftl feats.
I’m guessing you haven’t watched the video, as it describes how fast both characters can go.
Also akuma do go for the kill.
Lady bug wins low diff.
I would really like to know where you took the Mach 20 speed comparison for homelander from?
Almost all miraculouses given the right hero with experience and unbound limits to thwir power could destroy homelander, Argos(felix) could juat make a homelander that's just better no matter what
I wonder if cataclysm would kill homelander
Homelander vs. Captain underpants
Overkill.
Underpants win
put him against chat noir