good list but as a rogue main I personally disagree with outlaw. Yes the base rotation is pretty easy to do but your damage will be ass. And with the current spec if you fuck up your timing once on BtE and use it outside of the crackshow window you will gimp your dps for the next 30seconds. Also being one of the highest apm specs is pretty rough when you are actually struggling to get to 2k rating since you can use that brainpower more to focus on the mechanics. If you compare this to havoc you can just press immo aura and blade dance on cd and you will do twice as much damage as any mid outlaw since most of your damage is pretty passive with immo aura, ragefire and your 2set.
fully agree! i main outlaw and its by far the hardest spec to play (most efficent). It is so easy to mess up the rotation. There are so many windows you have to play around, procs, random combo point generation etc. But thats the fun part, you always improve and never get bored. Assa, DH, Ret is freeloot compared to Outlaw. Sadly you cant hold up to DH and BM Hunters their dmg is insane this season. Got my KSM today, have fun guys with the best xpac since legion
Some of us are pretty bad at the game, so this list is nice to lay out the lowest-stress way to get there. I got KSH last season on a holy priest (lol) and it nearly killed me because my situation awareness is garbage, I have terrible reaction time, and I was still dying to everything in Underrot at the end of the season :) This season I'm aiming for KSH on my resto druid and maybe KSM on my resto shaman. Both are pretty new to me, so it'll be interesting to compare my perf with the two classes. Love your videos, keep up the great work.
I don't know man, nobody gives feral enough love. I haven't played mine in like 5 years. Randomly mained it in S3, I went from fresh fresh 70 gear to KSM in total 4 days. Saturday and Sunday for the first 2 weeks. Easiest ksm I've ever gotten
Tbh, resto druid has 1 feature that makes him stand alone among others - he went from wotlk times as a least changed healer (even my friend who returned to the game first rime after wotlk mentioned it), so if someone wants specifically to heal, but in style it was back then, they should probably try druid
I got ksh with BM hunter and I'm currently 2600 io, decided to switch to MM cause its my favorite spec in the game and I'm having a rough time dealing damage and surviving even with 99 logs in 20+ keys, how can blizzard let a spec die like this? I want my MM back to the middle of the list at least :'(
prot pala easier than warrior? Think we are playing a different game :P Think warrior and bear are easier than all three of those choices, with brewmaster legit the hardest tank to play, but eh, really, play what you like!
Hey guys, a little off-topic here - wasn't monk rework teased in some video, or am I tripping? I specifically remember it, but can't find anywhere, folks on reddit think I dreamed about it xD
i got ksm on my sv hunter without even knowing 2k was KSM, first time in multiple expac i made PVE prio over PVP, just did mythics in pugs without thinking about it and got 2k last week. its brain dead easy. little to easy, but i heard and was told this patch its alot easier. idk
It's easy for some people, not all, was easy for us as well, but at the same time, let's not live in our own little bubble and forget the majority of players play at a more chill level
Cool stuff;) Dont think IOd agree with tank selection though - still think that bear would prolly be easier to pug. Warrior is awesome but it is a bit team reliant, if you have ppl dying on bosses as they have no clue whats going on - which is normal in pugs, having CR, some slpash heal and big ST heal help a lot. Also quite tanky and ez to play.
Think warrior ahs bigger ST, but true for CR and splash heal. Although if those are the reason you would pick a bear over warrior, I think the issue is something else and not the tank choice :D
WoW should be just a box price and then free to play. I could see a limitation for 1 character only without substitution. Sometimes I would like to try it for a moment, but I'm not going to pay for the subscription because it always pushes me to play much more because "if I pay for something regularly I'm supposed to use it"... :D OR I wish WoW would come to game pass :D Both of those would open this game to a bigger audience.
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whats 3k? like all 20s? thats easy im sorry but getting rating in todays wow is beyond stupid easy the last time ksm and above was maybe difficult in any way was bfa 8.3 and even that wasent too bad
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good list but as a rogue main I personally disagree with outlaw.
Yes the base rotation is pretty easy to do but your damage will be ass. And with the current spec if you fuck up your timing once on BtE and use it outside of the crackshow window you will gimp your dps for the next 30seconds.
Also being one of the highest apm specs is pretty rough when you are actually struggling to get to 2k rating since you can use that brainpower more to focus on the mechanics.
If you compare this to havoc you can just press immo aura and blade dance on cd and you will do twice as much damage as any mid outlaw since most of your damage is pretty passive with immo aura, ragefire and your 2set.
Agree here. Havoc is way more noob friendly. Impossible to screw up too bad. Lower skill floor required. Also easy invites
This is so true. Outlaw can get good if you k kw what to do. If not....
fully agree! i main outlaw and its by far the hardest spec to play (most efficent). It is so easy to mess up the rotation. There are so many windows you have to play around, procs, random combo point generation etc. But thats the fun part, you always improve and never get bored. Assa, DH, Ret is freeloot compared to Outlaw. Sadly you cant hold up to DH and BM Hunters their dmg is insane this season. Got my KSM today, have fun guys with the best xpac since legion
Some of us are pretty bad at the game, so this list is nice to lay out the lowest-stress way to get there. I got KSH last season on a holy priest (lol) and it nearly killed me because my situation awareness is garbage, I have terrible reaction time, and I was still dying to everything in Underrot at the end of the season :) This season I'm aiming for KSH on my resto druid and maybe KSM on my resto shaman. Both are pretty new to me, so it'll be interesting to compare my perf with the two classes.
Love your videos, keep up the great work.
Interesting choices, can't say resto druid is an easy healer so props to you!
Playing specs and classes you don't like to get achievement is dumb. Play what you like and improve to get there.
I don't know man, nobody gives feral enough love. I haven't played mine in like 5 years. Randomly mained it in S3, I went from fresh fresh 70 gear to KSM in total 4 days. Saturday and Sunday for the first 2 weeks. Easiest ksm I've ever gotten
hahahahaha "I'll see myself out" the delivery on that xD
no option left for me at that point
Tbh, resto druid has 1 feature that makes him stand alone among others - he went from wotlk times as a least changed healer (even my friend who returned to the game first rime after wotlk mentioned it), so if someone wants specifically to heal, but in style it was back then, they should probably try druid
Any spec can do it. Even more prevalent this season than any other.
True, but people don't want anything, they want bis :D
I got ksh with BM hunter and I'm currently 2600 io, decided to switch to MM cause its my favorite spec in the game and I'm having a rough time dealing damage and surviving even with 99 logs in 20+ keys, how can blizzard let a spec die like this? I want my MM back to the middle of the list at least :'(
I agree MM is way more fun but I did not even do half the dmg of BM wich uses like 3-5 buttons
Well, ive got my ksm with my aff warlock on the second week of season 3, so I guess that means you can get it with any spec you want.😅
I mean class does help but knowledge of the dungeons is far superior than just bringing the class. I've seen some BAD BM's trying to do keys.
Truth, vid is about specs :D
Somehow have avoided that pokemon joke for thirty years, until now thanks lmao.
It was about time
If you want a KSM fast, just play any tank you like.
Easiest are prot pala, bdk and vdh.
prot pala easier than warrior? Think we are playing a different game :P
Think warrior and bear are easier than all three of those choices, with brewmaster legit the hardest tank to play, but eh, really, play what you like!
If you use GSE, BDK can easily get to +17s as long as you know the mechanics.
No tank easier than a GSE BDK lol.
7 button tank at max.
got it in the first id, first time ever since i play WoW without any 2pc 4pc from T31
What a gigachad!
Hey guys, a little off-topic here - wasn't monk rework teased in some video, or am I tripping? I specifically remember it, but can't find anywhere, folks on reddit think I dreamed about it xD
BM main since Cata. I love the few times I've seen it as a meta spec and get called a FOTM player. I'm just like yeah, I sure am.
That is so annoying! Same thing happened to me with Ret paladin last season, and I've been playing it since cata as well.
i got ksm on my sv hunter without even knowing 2k was KSM, first time in multiple expac i made PVE prio over PVP, just did mythics in pugs without thinking about it and got 2k last week. its brain dead easy. little to easy, but i heard and was told this patch its alot easier. idk
Same. 2k is nothing this season. I did +18 keys on the second day of the season in my first m+ season. So if i can do it everyone can.
It's easy for some people, not all, was easy for us as well, but at the same time, let's not live in our own little bubble and forget the majority of players play at a more chill level
Was hoping for an arms warrior buff, or atleast an improved tierset. But not this time.
Best pick right now is bm, ppl never expect you to be the best, they just want you to not die and lust when needed
more vids like this please!
What did you say is the downside to rogue? APM? I'm not sure what you said.
why is prot warrior c tier on sub creation?
they nerfed augm so often and so terrible , still we come back . the dmg nerf on it is bullshit tho
Resto druid feels easier (for me) to pick up and play in any given patch. Shaman altogether is amazing, nice meaty heals but can run OOM fast.
I love beast matery
me being an arms warrior : well... let's wait season 4...
Cool stuff;) Dont think IOd agree with tank selection though - still think that bear would prolly be easier to pug. Warrior is awesome but it is a bit team reliant, if you have ppl dying on bosses as they have no clue whats going on - which is normal in pugs, having CR, some slpash heal and big ST heal help a lot. Also quite tanky and ez to play.
Think warrior ahs bigger ST, but true for CR and splash heal. Although if those are the reason you would pick a bear over warrior, I think the issue is something else and not the tank choice :D
@@MarcelianOnline oh yeah its pugging so you have to be ready for anything;)
@@MarcelianOnline started bearing recently, having those 200% instant regrowth procs saved a lot of CR on the way
Gotta love Beast Matery.
yesir, best hunter spec!
playing as tank (prot pally) made my life easier for ksm the 2nd week
WoW should be just a box price and then free to play. I could see a limitation for 1 character only without substitution. Sometimes I would like to try it for a moment, but I'm not going to pay for the subscription because it always pushes me to play much more because "if I pay for something regularly I'm supposed to use it"... :D OR I wish WoW would come to game pass :D Both of those would open this game to a bigger audience.
is ksm still a goal?
Who does your thumbnails? they are rad
Suprisingly these are my most played specs, I didn't plan it, just turns out I am efficient or something :d
what a based player dood!
@@MarcelianOnline or very casual :D Wanted to say I really enjoy your vids and I think we all hope you are not burned out or too tired to make them, all the best!
Havoc for melee bm for ranged
Thank you for Protection :)
Always!
Play what you enjoy 😂 KSM is extremely easy on any spec
Still not ranged video :( Sad mode activated
That's always on Fridays ;) keep close!
I just wanna see with my own eyes how far down my spec got plunged into the gutter D: (Shadow Priest)@@MarcelianOnline
Protection should have been written with brown color not orange!
Brown looks like shit :)), also its too dark of a color so its harder to see visual wise
Love this
lol that prot pala name
The easiest is Aug
I mean, sure, but, bleah
Beast Matery :D
Matey!
KSM is easy af as any spec. 2,500 is significantly harder. 3,000 is MUCH harder.
Truth, but KSM is what most ppl aim for I think
Sherlock 😂
lol I got ksm last week
What do we get when we do all dungeons at +20?
Not sure if you get something specific, +20s gives you a portal to that dungeon, higher score gives achievement, there was one other thing
2500 mythic+ score gives gear animations similar to mythic raid gear
@@russellanas that is all? And I guess the weekly chest... Right?
Holy priest is so much easier than shaman
Lol BM literally getting nerfed.
Bro, class does not matter. I got KSM as Survival hunter. ez
They told that to me for getting a gf, who's laughing now, uhm, what, :(
Combo points classes are meh
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KSM is braindead easy but getting 3k is another story
Difficulty is subjective friend, braindead easy is only a small part of people doing keys
whats 3k? like all 20s? thats easy im sorry but getting rating in todays wow is beyond stupid easy the last time ksm and above was maybe difficult in any way was bfa 8.3 and even that wasent too bad
Not everyone plays hours everyday
@@theTobywan I didnt trust me and i still got ksm easily
You get ksm with like 12s or 13s. Any nooob can get it
Really so low? Thought on 20s
Definitely easier than the first time it was added
@syxqid3818 it's 15s. If you time every 15 on both weeks ksm. Throw in a few 16s and 17s and the hard keys don't need to hit 15
@@Nexx1414 nope it's 13s
@@fan1m1rnope defo 15s lol