i9 Intel VS M1 Max MacBook Pro 16! Should YOU Upgrade?!
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- The two giants of the MacBook Pro lineup, the MacBook Pro 16 with the 8 core i9 processor and the MacBook Pro 16 with the M1 Max 10 core processor.
Both are slated for the top of their respective years power curve, but which one comes out on top between the two?
Lets find out!
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HBM2* Stands for High-Bandwidth Memory, revision 2. It's very expensive, very low-level, low energy, ultra-fast random-access memory primarily designed for GPUs. It significantly reduced the amount of GPU power that had to be dedicated to video memory versus the 5300M and 5500M when used in the 5600M, and made the 5600M able to fit more GPU compute units into the same power envelope. Between the memory bandwidth increase provided by the HBM2 and the additional compute units of the 5600M, the 5600M was up to 75% faster than the 5500M 8GB model, which was very upsetting to me when it came out three months after I bought the 5500M 8 GB model.
The 5600M was also a power-efficiency champ at idle, relatively speaking, and did not suffer from the hardware flaw with GDDR6 models (5300M, 5500M) where driving an external display caused the video memory to clock up and use more power than needed. This issue was a big part of what made me ditch my 5500M-equipped MacBook Pro 16 after just 10 months, as I was constantly using it plugged into an external display.
If you found this comment helpful, Gary, why not give it a pin? ;)
5300M user here. Thank you for explaining the cause of frustrating external display issue. This made me crazy for so long and finally learning the actual reason behind is great. Hopefully the new computer (M1 Max) won't have this issue. Thank you!
Well explained! Sorry to hear that you had to ditch yours, but understandable. This is why when many complain (on different threads) about power draw and display issues, it is important to understand what model GPU they have on their MBP. I have the fully loaded MBP 16 intel i9, and I have not had any of the issues with power drain / lag / display etc.
The newer M1 is performing better because of the notch 🤔
It specifically makes it go faster, like racing stripes 🤣
@@TheEverydayDad Exactly, just wait for the red model 😎
Jarrod - I am with you brother.
It’s a top notched product. 😅
Hold your horses though rendering on the i9 8 cores 32GB a 4k movie took 7minutes, on the M1 with 16GB 12mins, almost double, food for thoughts. Ram seems to make a huge difference still.
Its a unique review. Good thinking. No other reviews talked about the boot camp stuff. I couldn't even find any review talking about SSD bandwidth. Yours is the first and only review to do so.
Great video. I have a 16" Intel MacBook Pro and between the web cam and the fan noise it drives me crazy.
I have the 16” i9 and I’ve legit never heard it make a single noise ever. Not once. 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
That means you are not using it for intensive tasks.
I often make my 16" i7 2019 (when I still have that laptop during at that time) super noisy because I often run Android & iOS Simulator + connecting to external display at the same time for coding
@@PradiptaGitayamaybe they haven’t unboxed it yet.
Great video. Thanks.
I'm just waiting for some hardshell cases to come out!! Excited to get my MacBook in the mail on Monday!
I like the Macbook 16in Intel one since it has bootcamp for my gaming, i'm wondering if you can do a comparison: Intel 16in Bootcamp windows Vs M1 Pro/Max Parallel window. It would be greatly appreciated by many people how also want to use Macbook for gaming from time to time.
You’ve convinced me! 😁
*Time to upgrade* 👍
I’ve got the M1 MacBook Air - my first Mac, and I am absolutely blown away by what they were able to pull off. Most I do is editing photos in Lightroom and Photoshop and it handles everything ridiculously well compared to every Windows machine I have ever used.
I had the m1 Mac mini - I've come from a 27" maxed out 2013 with SSD installed, 32 GB RAM and the m1 mini was just as great if not better. I had the trashcan Mac Pro too and it was just as speedy if not better. for $700. jeez. finally swapped to the 14" MacBook Pro 16GB 1TB so I'm mobile now with all the bells and whistles.
@@rafaelunplugged That’s awesome! I’ve tried the 14” MacBook Pro and would love to have one for the display, but at over $700CAD more than the M1 Air it just doesn’t make sense for me. The Air is still quite excellent though!
@@cadenchurchill4296 oh for sure. I'm just lucky you have clients here that I could finally upgrade to the pro. The M1 is a killer and it seems the M2 was a modest upgrade.
The portability of the M1 air is insane too. I wish I could've worked off a maxed out M2 air haha.
@@rafaelunplugged That would be awesome, but being able to do all your work off a 14” Pro is still pretty awesome!
Do you think you could do an updated productivity apple ecosystem video? I’ve been building it up and I thought the mini would be good but want your thoughts on adding it alongside the new MacBook!
I have always believed that form should follow function and not the other way around. Given that, I sure got a lot of use with my 2013 Air. I’m looking forward to getting my new 14”. It is time!
hi, great video! I would love to see the difference between the 16' M1 pro 2021 and the 16' M1 max 2021. I'm gonna need to buy a 16' model but don't know if going all the way to the M1 Max is worth it
The M1 Max is capable of some impressive gaming performance as well, even when running via the Crossover emulation layer. I'd love to get one, but the prospect of shelling out nearly $4000 to get the 14-inch spec I want isn't especially appealing when I spent over a grand less combined for the two laptops I roll right now: an M1 MacBook Air for productivity and a Lenovo Legion 5 for gaming.
I’m really looking for straight forward comparison videos between NEW 14 and 16, and can’t find any. That would be much more useful than comparing to a laptop that’s not for sale anymore?
Love the videos also what do you think if I should pay for one of these or wait to see what the new air would have
Excellent shirt. Did you get that Nintendo Switch Online expansion to play OOT on Switch as well?
as a lover of portability, I would like to see a stress test between the 14 and the 16
I would like to see a review between the base model 14” and the 16” base model . Great great videos. Love your content and the “user friendly “ explanations 😂
A youtuber named Created Tech just uploaded a video about this. It's a very good video
Thx I’ll check it out
Ihave intel i9 model, I think it is gorgeous for me. Company of heroes 2 plays natively like a dream, no hiccups, machine is Eastlake a lightning to an ordinary user. Fans make a little noise but they also keep MB relatively warm.
Can you compare the 14" and 16" recently released macbooks?
Great Video Everyday dad, Which one you liking so far 14" or 16"
Hey brother you are the best comparing these macbooks but can we have a comparison between a macbook pro with m1 max chip and a windows laptop/pc within that price range.
Hi nice comparison. I would like to see also a comparison between XPS 17 and MacBook pro 16
Hey Gary, just wondering why didn’t you like the Touch Bar
hi my name is chetan I want to use auto cad software so which MacBook is best to buy I also don't have must budget M1, M1PRO, MAX OR INTEL in which it runs and in which it doesn't or what I need for auto cad like software to run on MacBook like which processor ,graphics etc
What do you think of the mba m1 for 8 core 8 gpu 16gb 1tb for programming n video editing for 1,500? Instead of the newer models
does any of the old 16 inch sleeves/cases fit the new model?
When I compare the two - I don't like the fact the older laptop has a notch that goes all the way across the screen ;)
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hey, what about vents? Are m1 vents more silent compared with intel ones?
Yess all it’s true but i9 2019 cost 1 k usd and m1 16 inch cost over 3 k , so if u are not a pro user ,what isn’t best in that case?
Get the 2019
I doubt that a top spec i9 costs 1k, it probably doesn’t have the best dedicated graphics card and probably the base M1 or the M1 Pro which are cheaper can beat it.
It's not like I'm buying this mac but the new chassis aesthetic is a step backwards. The old 16 tapered design looks so good.
The old design + chip with a display overheats like crazy. Actually i thought that too at first but in reality, tapered macs have been around for a while and the new retro look is starting to look compelling.
I actually really like what Apple apple is doing with the squared off laptops, phones, iPads. It looks really nice to me but before they were released I would have agreed with you, I loved that old MacBook design too.
Square macbook is literally a 20 year step back to 2005 lol
my dell xps 15 9510 reached 98 degrees when i tried to run cinebench 23 on my 11th gen core i9 :(
Fan noise. Ever since I got an iMac Pro years ago, I can’t stand the fan noise from the intel 16” MBP. Can’t wait for a silent MBP again!
im blown away with the 14" base so im sure I will be blown by the 16" lol
What are your thoughts on my transition? Been using the 2011 Macbook Air for almost 10 years now (Typical web browsing and light office work). Was thinking about going to the 13 or 14" M1 as I'll be using the virtual desktop from work as my main work laptop. A colleague sold me his 2019 i9 2.3, 32GB, 1TB, 5500 8mb for $1200. So far it's great and for the price and specs, I think I could make this work for a few years.
I got one identical for a grand, it's a bargain, agreed, I'll get an M1 when they are no longer as expensive as a nice second hand car. 6 grand for the good spec, I'll stay1 generation behind, it served me well so far, and I don't have to bother with the birth pains of new generations like ARM. And you also have the test of time, I wait and see, I'll use my 5 grand for a nice holiday and can still do everything I need with an i9.
Am I the only one that wouldn't mind both the function keys and touch bar?
Touch Bar is really great, it rarely misbehaves. Has some cool quick actions you can do without remembering the key combination. You can switch between tabs or files, control the brightness of the keyboard backlight and so on
No. I’d love to have both myself
those 3 thunderbolt ports are 3 different bus, so you basically get more thunderbolts than the Intel version.
Can you compare the Dell XPS 17 9710 to the M1 Pro?
whats the difference between the 14 and 16 if the specs are the same?
I have the intel pro i9 with 32g ram and it gets so damn hot it drives me insane. I could fry an egg on it.
The big problem with the notch is it works horribly on any app with a lot of menu items. It doesn't look like the kind of thing that can be improved on later iterations given the smaller size of a laptop screen. The touch bar is the exact opposite, it could have been five times as good but Apple stopped updating it so the one from five years ago so what you have now is pretty much the same that was there in the beginning. The function keys have completely different capabilities from the touch bar so they should have included both. I would much rather have the 2020 touch bar model.
I have the touch bar and it doesnt bother me. They probably could do more with it. Also, I dont really use function keys much.
2019, MBP16. barely ever hear fan noise. not a youtuber though.
plz make a video on dell xps 15 9510 vs macbook pro 16" m1 max
I stay down to edit a few photos on photoshop with my i9 and within minutes my lap felt like it was on fire and the noise from the fans were just insane.. I bought a new M1 Pro Laptop with the i9 laptop and sold the i9 laptop. I sold my i9 just because of the heat and noise and not to mention the battery life when mobile editing is horrific may around 1 hour actually.
Need advice, Best Buy is selling a 2020 MacBook 16in i9 16GB for $1900. I would be using this MacBook strictly for business productivity, with an original sticker of $2800 is the $900 dollars in savings work not going with the latest model? Thank you TH-camrs
The Macbook from 2019 is currently priced at 1400$ if we take the spect out version. I mean, for that money, you might as well buy that instead of the m2 MacBook Air
I gave in yesterday and bought a 14 inch 😅 coming from a 2019 13inch 👾
My work computer is the 2019 MacBook pro 16. My personal computer is the maxed out M1 13" MacBook pro. I have been using both for about a year and can confidently say that the 13" is bar far my favorite. It's just about as fast as the 16" pro, gets substantially battery life, and the smaller form factor makes it much more comfortable to use as a laptop.
I love your videos of comparing laptops and being truthful and transparent. If it was for you? I’d probably wasted my money on a more expensive laptop but instead run my channel off my M1 MacBook air!
They should take the front camera system of the iPad Pro and put it in the MacBook pros. This would give it a better, ultra wide camera and Face ID.
Great review Everyday Dad. Let's now focus on hitting 1 million subscribers: Then you can upscale your current channel or start a new one and call it "The Everyday Daddy".
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You should ask for some review units from Apple! Underrated channel
I’m in a crazy predicament as I was planning to get an M1 Max 16”, but my previous machine, a 2016 15” with Touch Bar (2.3 ghz I9) was popping A lot in August of this year, so I was going to get it repaired, but because of the lockdowns in Victoria, Australia, it took a long time for someone to come out, so I had to get a new computer, and in that case, it was the 16 inch Intel machine. My question is this. How long do you think Apple will be supporting these Intel machines for, and if not that long, will I get a really good price if I sold my current system?
@Damian - I am in the same boat. The 2019 mac is still a very new machine. I would think they would support it for a while. I have had the 5K imac and it has been supported since 2016 when I bought it. It is only now that they are fazing these machines out out tho the Apple Silicon version has not be shown yet. Not everyone is the Everyday Dad that can buy 2 machines per year. I bought the 2019 16 MBP with touch bar with 32 g mem and the 8 gig video card and it cost me around $3,500.00. It is going to be a while before I am willing or able to spend that kind of money again. Moreover, they same reviewers were gushing about that machine that they now say is soooo loud etc etc. Keep me posted brother. PS One thing that does bother me is that because the i9 was replaced so quick, there will be less third party items like gear because these new machines came along so fast.
I think it’ll get at least one major os upgrade apart from Sonoma, and after that several years of security patches. I think 😅
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I watched maybe 100 videos about macbook m1 max and that was the best video I ever seen. It's so simple and effective..
Are those silver or space gray
I just got 13 2020 i7 32 gigs ram and 512 ssd. Tried even gaming on it. On windows 10 it pulls Dishonored both parts at 70-80 fps with 900p medium. Amazing rig. So good my wife took it from me. So here I am, looking for 16 2019 with 5500m and 64 ram.
You cannot run eGPU on the new ones 😞 big desktop cards add great value to laptops. Put on top of this the boot camp, VMware issues, compatibility with windows software and M1s are only for people that run video 8k streams and type word docs like you said in the video for intel ones. No doubt M1 are great all in one but attach a big monitor to that laptop and run it all day and will see how it works the thermals. Mine I can tell stay quite with egpu and a 30” Apple Cinema Display. The lack of eGPU is really what made me go with the second hand i9 than M1 processors.
get a m3 pro or max
@@Stealth_Pilot not yet... There is plenty of power in the 6900XT.... Getting an M# laptop will happen one day....
So bummed because I just bought the intel version at the beginning of last year expecting to hold onto it for at least 5 years and I still have a ways to go to pay it off 😑
I bought the 2019 version for like 5300, only part I didn’t max out was the SSD (I got 2 TB instead of 8) and I paid it off right away. It’s disappointing to see this video😂
@@Alex-yj9xl who’s gonna buy these ones knowing they’re pretty much obsolete? Lol
@@AWDTH1111 I just bought one with 2.4ghz i9 32gb and 1tb for $1299 pretty much new
@@tajones7905 I had a 2019 16" base model with 2TB with a broken screen given to me. I fixed the display for $450. I couldn't justify spending $2K right now. It's still a great computer and does what I need.
IS THE SD CARD PORT uhs-ii COMPATIBLE!!!!!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥?????
I get 2-3 hours of battery life out of my 16” Intel
That means I will get 4-6 out of the M1 Pro which still isn’t a full day of work.
I do mobile app development and these batteries don’t stand a chance away from the wall charger.
I’m feeling really bad about my intel mbp16
I have a late 2015 15” pro so i dont mind upgrading to the 2019 and saving a couple thousand
Is the m1 16inch much heavier than the intel 16inch? Or does it just feels the same
Same
Compare it with the existing m1 models
Possibly Intel Macs are still better with docker as lots of stuff still runs on Rosetta and are not efficient yet
I am very skeptical of these reviews. I have the i9 16MBP and I never hear the fan. I have an i7 5k desktop and I never hear the fan. I'd like to see more real world tests. Is anyone is similar circumstance? Do you have the i9 and have are skeptical of the Apple silicon, the noisy fans?
Apple hates Intel, so the reviewers hop onboard and preach the gospel. My 16” Intel i9 MBP has been and is a fantastic machine, and the negative reviews leave me scratching my head. I even bought a 16” M1Pro, not to replace my 16” Intel, but to happily coexist. Apple is an extremely political company focused on their bottom line.
@@jeffrey3498 Thanks for your post Jeffery. How do the two compare in performance?
@@Applecompuser They’re both very powerful in my real world usage. I’ve been using the Intel machine for Photoshop and Lightroom, and the M1Pro for audio recording with a UAD Apollo Duo Quad and Pro Tools. Snappy performance and no fan noise from either machine. I’m thrilled to own and use both machines. Regards.
@@jeffrey3498 did you try to use the intel one for recording on it? I’m just wondering if I should pay for double the memory with the i9 if it’s still going to run smoothly
I have a Macbook Air M1 for business and a windows machine ( getting on a bit as it has nvidia 1650 card) which I use for casual gaming. While I appreciate the Macs are really business machines, what are the 14" and 16" Macbook Pro's like for gaming??
you praise the intel mbp when it came out now you talk $hT when the new mac came out:)
For mid-level photo-video editing, college, programming, projects in applications like Autocad, solidworks, and others, is it enough to buy M1 13” macbook pro, or should i wait to buy M1 Pro 14”?? I'm waiting for your opinion, thanks!!!
Perfect! I got the intel 16 from 2019 and been fishing for one of the new ones cuz those fans!!!!!!! 🤬 and slowing down other programs are killin me haha I’m down sizing to the 14” 👀
I never even hear the fans on my 16" from late 2019. I think this is an issue related specifically to the i9 CPU, mine has the i7.
No 1000 nits in normsl use? Saw it in the Apple Store and the display was kind a dark… 😕
My Corvette was faster than my Taurus. I can't figure out why...
You can see even with the 16 inch body and new cooling system, the 9th gen i9 couldn't stretch it's legs. In beefy ugly gaming laptops that thing can do 10k - 11k in CBR23 if cooling and power is adequate. Just a shame it couldn't really do well under that chassis and that power envelope.
I prefer the Touch Bar and the old style keyboard. The new MacBook Pro keyboard looks like a cheap inlay you would fine on a standard windows laptop. I have watched other videos and they seem to think that the i9 is no push over. I would advice everyone taking this guys review with a pinch of salt and checkout wait others are saying
A few things dad. I’m sorry the Touch Bar confused you. It’s useful especially in logic and resolve. Second the late 2019 i9 is no slouch. Take a 60 minute 4k black magic RAW file and render / export on both machines. The M1 stuff eventually slows down. Lastly the apple graphics cannot touch a dedicated GPU.
Purchased an i9 16gb ram 2016 MacBook Pro in excellent condition for around $780 on Amazon. 1tb ssd. If I wanted similar storage/ram on a new MacBook I would’ve paid a fortune. Very grateful for my laptop. Price is an important factor in usefulness. 3-4 2019s for the same price as a similarly specced m2? Praise God for helping me find the deal! The speakers are incredible and it’s the last MacBook to run windows. The i9 itself bought alone would cost probably at least half of that $780. Might be the best buy on the market for many. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.
Amen 🙏🏽 I am also thinking to buy the same on Amazon! God is good ❤
Ive bought one with a i9 2.4ghz 32gb ram 1tb ssd and radeon 5500m 8gb for 1200€ its almost as good as new.
I was watching all the comparison videos and the killer for the m1 is the not native use of windows for daily driving and games. I didnt want to pay almost 100€ for a yearly subscription of paralells to use windows to game.
The 2019 16“ macbook is a very good deal nowadays and for its flexibility for people like me, i dont really care about the loud fan noises.. i hope it will last me as long as my old 2012 macbook pro 12“ base model
Um sir you could have got the 2019 MBP in the same configuration for $500 now
@@John_R_Jackson_III you don’t even know when I bought it leave me alone
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I love the Zelda shirt!
Been using windows my whole life but ever since I switched to m1 pro, I haven't looked back. I prefer working & watching content on mac more than on windows now.
I'm using a very scientific method and calling it for the one with the bigger Apple logo! Bigger logo for the win!!!!
wait, there is some confusing statements here. You conflated GPU performance with video exports. Not quite that simple. Technically the 5600m is very powerful, But you are comparing the use of the m1 chip media encoders for the exports, and not so much reliance on the GPU.
Base 14 inch pro vs 13 inch M1 pro please???
100% the 14 inch
I bought a refurbished MacBook Pro 16” 2019 at the end of 2019. Been itching to get the new M1 MBP but I keep wondering if it’s worth paying for a new one or if the 2019 will have a good long life. I usually upgrade every 5-6 years. I still have my MBP 13” 2012 which I swapped the SSD and runs great and have as much backup or travel companion. Any advice?
Keep you 2019 until END of life support then upgrade to the latest model. By then all incompatibilities and kinks will be worked out on the new M1 Max systems. They are nice and Fast, but there are still some issues with some older stuff. If your current machine works for what you do save your money.
@@wmerritt72 thanks 🙏🏽! How can one find out the end of life support for each Mac? Do they have it in some support page?
@@brandondelgado7731 they don’t. By life support he means the latest macOS, I’m sure the 2019 will keep getting the latest software until the very end of 2020’s, so I would say until around 2028 or so
I want the 14 so bad!!!!
Points just for the Zelda shirt
What I want to know is whether the M1’s are making intel look bad or Apple’s implementation of intel look bad? Apple went too far with thermal throttling. What would have happened if they had the high power mode available in Intel?
The answer is found when you replace the Intel Mac with an Intel PC, as in the videos that benchmark the M1 against PC laptops. Channels like MaxTech have been pitting the M1 MacBook Air (same case design as Intel MacBook Air) against current PC laptops in the same price range or slightly higher, and the M1 keeps beating them. The kicker? The Intel MacBook Air had one fan, the M1 MacBook Air has no fan. The M1 high performance per watt means it consumes little power and runs very cool…lots of thermal headroom before throttling, so the M1 is free to crank it all the way up and stay there.
I think Apple should have non Hi end 16 inch Mac book not for pro users.
Your entire video is about the Macbook i9 but linked the Macbook i7 in your description? WTF?
m1 vs m1 pro is not as shocking like isn't the 16 i9 kinda old now not really fair
intel is still bang for the buck
if you are a developer
hdmi and sdcard reader in the new mac is slow, former capped at 60fps
Well I think tech contents is way much better for you
holyshit u speak fast
today i9 64gb ram 2tb drive 1000£ i know what i want :/ if you think m1 give you power with 8gn ram for this price time to wake up
Right to repair? I've had Apple/Mac laptops since the PowerBook 160/180. This forced trend of Apple has me disgusted (on an i9 MacBook 16 right now). Steve Jobs is clearly missing from this picture nowadays.
i9s are over clocked which makes them hot and noisy. Prone to coil whine too. M1 seems like a much better machine.
of course the new computers are gonna beat out the old ones but that notch gotta go why does apple always do something dumb like this I'm sure they could of squeezed a camera in there without putting that notch in ..smdh bad apple
The new MacBook Pro is better in every way except the keyboard (looks like chocolate bars were glued, and the laptop itself is is too big compared to its predecessor. Otherwise, a much better laptop.
4090 *hold my silicon*