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Thumbs up if you like this Collab! Check out "The Athlete Special" (Spencer Brown)'s TH-cam channel here (if you haven't already!) See how a sub 4:00 min miler (3:39 1500m guy) trains as a post-collegiate track pro living the dream and running fast: th-cam.com/channels/TVjyeSlm3sR3N1fx-NI-Kw.html
Sage, this is some next level sauce.
Gonna practice social distancing.
Fuck it, elbow bump
@@Kevin-sy8uf mm
O9mlmlmm mom
Special colour Carbon Rockets Sage?? 👀
“These young whippersnappers” classic sage quote
Classic
Turns out Mr. Spencer dropped to 5471st place in the mile rankings----imagine having 5470 people in FRONT of you? WOW!
Ted Allison imagine running sub 4 and still have that many people in front of you
@@LoneStar_Performance -correct----when there's 14 yr olds running 3:58.07 & 16 year old doing repeat miles in 4:10 ect.....-----3:59.97 is a time eclipsed way back in the 1950's--w all the training & tech upgrades---sorry --I'm just NOT impressed-his buddy Cooper ran 3:55:50. That's impressive!
@Ted Allison
You seem to have some problem with spencer probably because he is not the best but still gets lots of attention but your ways of saying this are misleading
1. the youngest person to break four is Jakob ingrbriksten at age 16 no fourteen year old has broken 4
2. You mention nico young doing 4:10 mile repeats you do realize nico is one of the best high school milers ever
Now we just need a Sage, Seth and Spencer collab
im so ready for that
and Ben Crawford
And Tinman?
well if we are doing tinman, sage, seth, spencer, and ben, we might as well add nick and easton
Samuel Lanham literally just add every running youtuber
impressive how easy it looks if someone can run fast. The comparison makes it clear how hard Sage had to work to stay with him. Nice done!
The crossover i've been waiting for
@AnySurfaceAnyDistance
I want to see the Juji crossover. Then we can discuss thunderthighs.
Next time have Spencer do a long run with you in the mountains
That'd be fun too !
Lmao. Idk if spence can hack that
Trail runs are killers for road and track people.
“I have child bearing hips” 😂😂
Nice! It would be interesting to see Spencer try a trail run with you to go outside his comfort zone and see why trail running is so great around Boulder. Maybe a quick trip up Bear :-)
that would be really cool
Yes
Yes
Yes
@Kuroko Comfort zone as in a workout he is used to, not that speed work is comfortable
The most ambitious crossover in Boulder!
No way!!! You and Spencer are two of my favorites!
thank you!
How are you
The arm carriage says it all hahaha. It’s crazy how much different training effects speed. In XC I have a hard time breaking 30 in repeats, but in track I click off 26s
Really interesting analysis Sage! I think I’m a mix of fast and slow twitch. In high school I ran 56.4 (400m) and 2:05 (800m), but nowhere close to your 5k time (17:15)
Compared to me you definitely lean more stamina. In junior college I went 52.7 (400m), 2:09.9 (800m), and 4:39.5 (1,500m). Guess which ones my coaches had me focus on? That's right: the distance ones. I know. I had the same bewildered thoughts back then too. I also ran like 19 minutes in a 5K road race my JC coaches forced me to do. I really hated my collegiate running experience and honestly probably should've went to a different school that could actually recognize which events I should've done. I'll pile on by saying I had some 200m practice intervals in the 23.0 neighborhood. But yeah-leave me in the middle distance races to get embarrassed every week.
I'm weird in nature as my primary school friend challenged me to decathlon our early 20's remember being fan of weight training back then and without any running I did 12,9 (100m), 1:17 (400m) and 6:53 (1500m) I wasn't tiny at all 187cm/99kg but I think more sprinter type thought about 19 years later I'm challenging myself with long distance running ☺️ after 20 month of slow progress I'm getting lighter as today morning I was just under 86kg.
@@TheReelRaymond It's never too late to get back into it.
@@ashleyjohn4309 I've actually considered it, especially considering how much more I know about running now than I did back then. That whole full-time work plus side hustle thing kind of gets in the way though.
@@TheReelRaymond haha didnt run in college but those were all my times exactly! Keep me in the 2 or 400m or bump me up to half or full marathons to wierdly find my niche!
Finally! Now all that's left is the Tinman guys!
My first thought, too. They do some decent long runs.
He's ran with the tinman guys before
@@MrHamsterworld They didn't really make the kind of vid we know they can make though honestly, we need a true collab
and Ben Crawford's boys
Dont forget Ben and Coop!
Finally the collab I’ve been waiting for
This is such a nice surprise!!!
Thanks for your support!
Now you've got to get him out on the trails.
Spence is gonna kill himself 🤣
Fantastic collab! Been loving Spencer’s content lately so great to see you two work together! You should do a 6 week track block of training with him, you downplay yourself in the commentary compared to Spencer but I reckon you’d be surprised how you’re form will change and how quick you’ll get in that short period of time!! Keep smashing it 👊
Andy, once the pandemic is over: we need to get you stateside for some collabs of your own!
Haroon Ahmad haha that would be epic!
Wow! This is insane 2 of my favorite TH-camrs collaborate 🏃❣️
Spencer looks super smooth and easy. Never noticed it until you broke it down. Nice work!
Great breakdown Sage, you're right, Spencer looks so relaxed at that pace, you did well keeping up!
I would recommend playing with your upper body / torso lean. I recently had a gait analysis done and my torso lean was probably around 3-5°, they recommend ~8-10°, that's probably the difference between you and Spencer. I've retrained it (easy adjustment compared to bringing glutes in and reducing overstriding) and found it to be far more efficient.
There are a lot of gains to be made from continued form focus as you often say, appreciate you doing these breakdowns, this was awesome!
YAY, this collaboration/video/vibe was just 100% awesome and great to watch!!!
Its nice to see you spar with other "better" runners than you sir Sage. This is what i envisioned when i wanted you to do interviews of elite runners. This will help you improve your game further. And hopefully someday, we might see you run a marathon again. And finally achive your dream p.r.
I like this video a lot. I think it's one of the best videos that you've ever made. Nice footage and you explain so well differences in running forms. Spence is a nice dude, I've watched his channel for a couple of years already. I'm looking forward to seeing you run with him in the mountains.
His Form is absolutely Amazing.
Your videos are always so down to earth and super fun to watch. Thanks for all the great content!
Spencer is originally 20 minutes from us. My oldest son watches his TH-cam videos and I watch yours!
I can see the difference in posture between you Sage and Spencer, he is slightly leaning forward like most of sprinters and this is his advantage...is not easy!!! But well done to you.
Looks like you were having fun Sage! I tell people who ask me about getting fit for marathons, "if you want to run a marathon fast you need to run a half fast, if you want to run a half fast you need to run a 10k fast". Etc etc. You get the idea ;) It's so true what you said about there being value in running these shorter distances faster to build speed and stamina for the longer distances. Thanks for putting this video together. It was great.
love and gratitude from china.
missing everything abt the track, although started street training around may.
have been waiting for this since i saw the IG posts... the drone shots were great
Great analysis... I would also say his power to weight distribution is efficient, which requires less effort.
Super helpful and fun. Do more of these form videos with other runners!
Super cool collab!! Love watching both of you guys training and thriving in your different areas of running! Two very fun and compelling stories :)
Well done Sage. Probably your best vid since racing Killian. Given your engineering and data focus the insights around form on other runners is a good area for future vids.
Sage.
You are very humble.
Right on.
Keep it up.
Ima finally get out and take care of my training run for the day
Absolutely loved how you broke it all down the way you did, completely unexpected and highly appreciated
Great video! Now you have to take Spencer on a long run! lol
Watch from 4:45 . It's obvious why sage struggles keeping that pace, just watch how safe swings he's chest and swings shoulders ! The dude Infront stays straight, he's upper body is super stiff and he uses all he's energy on he's legs - sage uses loads of energy twisting. Techniques so different, Sage has a wide and tall frame, the dude in front has narrow hips and shoulders - being tall is a disadvantage, I've studied sports science, and running economy - there is no denying, if your short, you have an automatic advantage. Less body mass, easier to stay cool, less wind resistance. Considering Sages height, he does amazing !
Actually, there's quite a few good tall 400m runners.
great crossover in running youtube running athletes!
Excellent video. Thanks and congratulations!
I feel like from running longer distances and not really focusing on shorter distances I have just about zero speed. Really enjoyed seeing this video
Cool! I have subbed both for over a year. Got to see both videos.
nice one! i've been following both of your channels :) Looking at you two running together, it does seem like sage's stride is over-reaching a bit, while spenser's landing is more under the body , but obviously it's also because it's not at a comfortable speed for sage.
Great video. One of the best running vids I’ve seen in the last couple of months. Really informative. Wish there was a regular schlub running with you as well, would be fun to see what they look like at sprint pace
Thanks for the running form analysis in this video, Sage! I learn something new everyday! LOL!
This is the video I wanted! I actually took screenshots of you two and did the same analysis, just not as thorough. Now I just need to lock in the improvements for myself after my ankle ligaments heal...
Sage at least those glasses make you look cooler than him
They are sick!
Collab with Seth!!! That’s what we need to see!
In the mountains! 😉
yessss meet up with SETH he’s not too far
So back on the track for a 10k Sage? any surface... great collab I have been following both of you for a while now so it is fun to see this - selfishly this comes at a great time for me with someone I am helping coach - the juxtaposition of your two forms is perfect for instruction, as she is working towards XC and the mile (if those things happen)
One of your best videos:)
What a great video colab..both super athlete's in your own way. Great to see 👍🙏
Great collab
Brillant i love both Channels !! a long time Sage Fan but now also subscribe The Athlete Special
you can really see the difference in running technique around the 5 minute mark. spencer has a nice forward lean and looks effortless, sage looks like he's leaning backwards and working really hard. I'm not dissing sage, he's an amazing runner and a great bloke.
This was a super helpful video! Thanks for the good breakdown/ comparison on running form! Also, great collab💪
Hey, can you let us know what those glasses are? Those are fire! Love em.
This was fascinating to watch and learn from! 😎
this is amazing! I can't wait to film myself and check out my form!
That was a great review Sage - you’re still one of the best all round athletes on the planet 👍🏻
Dude love your vids and the athlete specials vids I’m a 9th grader that dreams of running d1 track and or cross country
Super video Sage! Great analysis and Honest views....liked it most.Your fan.
Love the collab! Worlds colliding!
I think we need more of these songs!
Do you know name of opening song “it’s a beautiful day”? Can’t find it under that name.
@@pato7274 no idea in the name.
Just came here from The Athlete Special video.
Art Garfunkle with the hair braid shows off his new running hobby...
This was fun! Glad to see you give that track workout a go, Sage! I’d love to watch you hammer out a few more interval workout sessions.
This is a great video for someone like me who is in process of overhauling their form. Seeing the difference between your respective forms in terms of lean/fall is eye opening. I'm late to the game here so wondering if you have a video where you have tried to adapt or adjust your lean based on this experience? Thank you for doing this and putting it out there...this is how we all improve!
Well done Sage! Great video!
Ths for this we are wating for that❤❤ both of you are legends
I learned so much in this video! Best collab ever
Spencer is good runner.
Nice to see Sage finally collab with someone!
Those sunglasses really are somethign quite special... :)
Iconic 😎
So the social distancing thing went out of the window pretty quickly.
Well I haven’t seen it and I have 2020 vision 😂
haha, hadn't seen Sage's vid...but he commented on the form difference I noticed in Spence's vid! Great collab Sage, get Spence up to the mountains!
The other point is that you run in a central position on the middle of your stride, him when he runs his body and his stride go forward, his sheathing is better his body is stable and virtually does not move, it is clearly made for speed races on tracks, you're the trail.
Nice smooth form, Sage. Spencer is more up on his midfoot on landing, though, and also is leaning forward more which might make for smoother sailing at this very fast speed. Thnx for the vid!
wondeful content! two of my fav runners. cheers man
Great video Sage
Great video Sage! I have the same running form as yours, same big quads too.
When athletes special said he was going to do 6 x 150's, I thought he meant 6 x 1500s, in my head I was like damn dude that's crazy (it didn't even matter the pace). I only do three miles worth of sprints right now, and my fastest mile is normally the last one between 4:30/m and 4:00/m. Great work out guys!
Great video. It would be interesting to see side by side comparisons of you running 35” 200s & Spencer running 30” 200s. And then your 30” vs his 25” 200s. I wonder if his mechanics would break down a little if he was running them at 25? Probably not much, since this is his specialty. Cool video Sage!👍
Personally I enjoy the collab by all the runner TH-camrs. I hope it is a trend that continues.
Meet up with Seth Demoor!!
Such a fun collab
I think that hip mobility has a lot to do with your running form. You are probably swaying around compensating for your lack of mobility, which is totally understandable and something you always work on. Also, the athkete Soecial is heaps younger than you do will have that natural mobility at his age. You did great Sage!
I really enjoyed that one Sage. Fantastic comparison at speed and an interesting insight that longer distance runners might get a bit lazy and run a bit too upright. I'd be interested to know if you are going to try to adapt your running form for the longer stuff in light of this. Cheers, Greg
After the bring back left glute series you can actually see how your right leg kick goes higher than your left leg kick when you slow it down at 10:58 . Not sure if it good or bad lol but I just noticed one foot going higher than the other at max velocity
Sage!!!!🤩🤩🤩 now this is epic!
Super interesting analysis man. Thanks for sharing. Next gotta run with Seth
The obvious difference I see it that you are a heel striker and your heel lands ahead of your body, causing you to brake on each stride, where Spenser runs with the classic POSE method form, landing on his forefoot under his body eliminating braking, controlling his speed with his body lean.
Don't be so hard on yourself Sage. You are a finely tuned distance machine with a very capable and highly functional muscle mass! Just think of you and Spencer competing in the North American Wife Carrying Championship!
Damn sage! You be cookin !!!! 🔥So awesome, you looked like a rocket! ✌️💚💪
You run a little rigid ..but you ran them with all you had ..that's excellent ....
i think your mid foot strike in these lightening speed runs appear huge effort by you.
his forefoot landing and smooth hand swing appears effortless yet speed run.
(sorry, i can't even run 5k in 30 minutes. but gave my observation!)
god damn i cant believe how effortless he makes it seem!
This made my month
I'm training to break the 400m, my top speed is 24mph but my endurance at that speed falls apart at the 250m. I train with a 40 pound vest and work on movement and breathing control to save endurance. I'm going to try to break it in the end of September.
Song name is: Hallman - Honesty
I liked it very much! Thanks
I'd have to do some precise measurements but I reckon your cadence is more in the region of 240 spm than 220 spm. This would give you a stride length of 1.67m for a 30 second 200m. So yes, that would definitely feel like a hard sprint to you. Whereas Spencer probably hits a stride length of 1.95m which means he is at approximately 205 spm. So Spencer takes 17 strides less than you over that 200m distance!
brilliant, great collab