Gone running 15 km just after watching the video 2 hours ago, it’s a game changing for me. I thought it would be hard at first, but it was the opposite, a much lower heart rate at the same pace. Incredible feel. 164 bpm at 4’24/km for 15 km. Start running 4 month ago, a lot to learn but so happy… Thank you so much for this vidéo, help a lot 🙏
Great job man. I just finished my 8k run in 45' and caught myself here to improve my cadence. Gonna be trying this stuff tomorrow. And btw do you run flat or uphill ?
I had a little bit of vascular headache going on when I went for my run a weeks ago, so I made a conscious effort to minimize vertical movement. Had a great run.
Thank you very much! I am having trouble with my overloaded calves. Finally found a very sound explanation as to why. And yes, I found the video from your email.
It does sound silly, but smiling and keeping my head empty when running actually helps a lot. It allows me to not overthink my running and stay relaxed
Really enjoyed this analysis, thanks. As a scientist I appreciate the detailed observation, with useful suggestions rather than rigid prescriptions. Just sad my current state of health means it'll be ages before I get to apply any of it...but will keep watching anyway!
@@goodyeoman4534 earth science! Geophysics in particular. Cardiac science sounds a lot more relevant to the subject in hand. I'm intrigued by the way you phrased that, though?
I also have a lot of pronation like Joshua, which causes pain mainly when hiking or standing for long periods of time. However, i once bought stiff pronation stability running shoes. and they actually caused a lot of knee and hip pain, because they didn't cushion anything. HOWEVER, for walking and standing all day they actually relieved pain. So for running i use a neutral Nike Zoom with lots of padding, and for standing all day i use normal shoes (dress shoes, all-stars, whatever) and put arch-support insoles in them like Superfeet Green.
Strike supination followed by pronation before toe up is normal and optimal. Foot strike on outer edge of midfoot provides a necessary but slight external hip rotation (knee out) for weight loading and flexing all leg and ankle joints. When loaded, foot pronates as it passes behind center of mass, and shifts your hip to a slight internal rotation (knee to center). This is the optimal position for the plyometric spring of tendon recoil and extension of all hip, leg, and ankle joints, giving best flight time before the opposite foot strike.
Great video: Illustrates clearly why if due to insufficient hip mobility and use of poweful core muscles calf muscles and archilles get over used. Know the pain well.
7:31. Watch video of Eliud Kipchoge breaking the world record at the Berlin Marathon (either time) and you will see he i often smiling. Especially towards the end. When you know he is really hurting. That smile helps manage is effort.
Il y a une forte pronation, mais de la cheville uniquement. Mais le coureur a le strict minimum en épaisseur de running et j'ai lu quelque part que c'est mieux de finir sa propulsion sur le gros orteil. Peut êtres que ce sont les raisons de cette pronation ? Super extension de la hanche et de l'ischio de Cheptegei, qu'il vaut mieux avoir solides. Super vidéo
Hi guys! I've been running for 3 months now. I've noticed that my legs give out first before my breathing. So, what I did is before I feel soreness in my legs, I stop for like 30 seconds max. Doing this, I've increased my mileage. Question Is: Does Stopping For 30 Seconds Break My Long Run? And Is It A Must To Continuously Run?
I thought it was so funny before the 2020 (2021) Olympics, everyone thought Cheptegei was a shoe-in to win the 10,000 metres. I remember reading such comments as "all he needs to do it run at his WR pace and he'll leave them for dead". Hmm, now how did that work out for him?
Glad you enjoyed it. Interesting you mention the the effect that running the bend has on the observed pronation... in fact running a left hand bend like that will reduce the amount of pronation you'd expect to see in the left foot/ankle, and increase pronation on the right.
I’m 6’1 and 220lbs and I never cared about running until the age of 30. Got myself some running shoes and after a few months running 2 miles twice a week I started having this terrible heel pain so I learned that my foot strike was wrong and now I’m a forefoot strike and my calves get super sore next day. Is there a technique to help me fixing my foot strike?
You comment on running stores stressing over pronation, I coach and work for a run specialty store. I try to put people in a neutral shoe more often than not, but I can’t tell you how many doctors and podiatrists still want people in super stiff insoles combined with a stability shoe. It’s not just folks with injury, but anyone with flat feet, a high arch, a medium arch, that moves… They come in with crazy stiff custom orthotics they spent $400 on, and a prescription pad listing off every motion control shoe out there.
I think the phrase "if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" works here! Completely agree with your comments, based on my time spent working in running retail as a student!
great video.. but the angle of these 2 guys are not the same u can tell by the head.. so if you had both videos from them.. perfectly aligned, maybe the angle would have been the same.-
Thanks Grady. If you're saying that you ran a 143 minute (2hr23) marathon, that's awesome. Congrats! Please bear in mind that you're clearly not the target audience for this video. I based the 40,000 step figure on a 4-hour marathoner (roughly average big city marathon finish time) running with a cadence of 170 spm. 240 minutes x 170 spm = 40,800 strides
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Gone running 15 km just after watching the video 2 hours ago, it’s a game changing for me. I thought it would be hard at first, but it was the opposite, a much lower heart rate at the same pace. Incredible feel. 164 bpm at 4’24/km for 15 km. Start running 4 month ago, a lot to learn but so happy… Thank you so much for this vidéo, help a lot 🙏
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how old are you and what's ur sport background? It's too fast for a biginner runner
Great job man. I just finished my 8k run in 45' and caught myself here to improve my cadence. Gonna be trying this stuff tomorrow. And btw do you run flat or uphill ?
How can you run 15k at 4’24 only after 4 months?
I’m afraid I just found the most underrated running channel on TH-cam. Immediately subscribed.
I had a little bit of vascular headache going on when I went for my run a weeks ago, so I made a conscious effort to minimize vertical movement. Had a great run.
Yes agree, always smile on the running. Give your energy and moodbooster.
Thank you very much! I am having trouble with my overloaded calves. Finally found a very sound explanation as to why. And yes, I found the video from your email.
The best content I have watched so far on running. Thank you
Thanks for these running form videos! Can you do a video on Parker Valby?
It does sound silly, but smiling and keeping my head empty when running actually helps a lot.
It allows me to not overthink my running and stay relaxed
I run 15km three times a week in a park in Korea, but it's not easy. Do pull-ups as a strength exercise.
Really enjoyed this analysis, thanks. As a scientist I appreciate the detailed observation, with useful suggestions rather than rigid prescriptions.
Just sad my current state of health means it'll be ages before I get to apply any of it...but will keep watching anyway!
What kind of scientist, mate? I'm in cardiac science.
@@goodyeoman4534 earth science! Geophysics in particular.
Cardiac science sounds a lot more relevant to the subject in hand. I'm intrigued by the way you phrased that, though?
@@kxs7267 "Cardiac Science"? I did Human Physiology at uni but then trained as a Healthcare Scientist in diagnostic cardiology.
I also have a lot of pronation like Joshua, which causes pain mainly when hiking or standing for long periods of time. However, i once bought stiff pronation stability running shoes. and they actually caused a lot of knee and hip pain, because they didn't cushion anything. HOWEVER, for walking and standing all day they actually relieved pain. So for running i use a neutral Nike Zoom with lots of padding, and for standing all day i use normal shoes (dress shoes, all-stars, whatever) and put arch-support insoles in them like Superfeet Green.
Thank you croc cat
Strike supination followed by pronation before toe up is normal and optimal.
Foot strike on outer edge of midfoot provides a necessary but slight external hip rotation (knee out) for weight loading and flexing all leg and ankle joints.
When loaded, foot pronates as it passes behind center of mass, and shifts your hip to a slight internal rotation (knee to center). This is the optimal position for the plyometric spring of tendon recoil and extension of all hip, leg, and ankle joints, giving best flight time before the opposite foot strike.
You will be the reason I go pro in baseball🙏
Great video: Illustrates clearly why if due to insufficient hip mobility and use of poweful core muscles calf muscles and archilles get over used. Know the pain well.
One of the best i have seen. Great content
Thanks for the video and insight. One question, the arm movement across the body, does that detract from forward momentum?
7:31. Watch video of Eliud Kipchoge breaking the world record at the Berlin Marathon (either time) and you will see he i often smiling. Especially towards the end. When you know he is really hurting. That smile helps manage is effort.
So true!
Did you know that Cheptegei's 5k world record is published on strava?
I do now! That's pretty cool. Evidently he knows the rules, If it isn't on Strava...
What’s the strava
Joshua Cheptegei@@Itsnotgabe12
Running application @@Itsnotgabe12
I@@Itsnotgabe12it a running app
glad that stumbled upon this video
This is a very well explained video! I appreciate how you broke it down to where even a novice can understand. Bless you!
Excellent explanation. Thank you for sharing this. Great information
Thanks, Dale! Hope it was helpful.
Your content is always helpful and very useful! Thank you again for sharing important information.
Helpfful to the point video
Il y a une forte pronation, mais de la cheville uniquement. Mais le coureur a le strict minimum en épaisseur de running et j'ai lu quelque part que c'est mieux de finir sa propulsion sur le gros orteil. Peut êtres que ce sont les raisons de cette pronation ? Super extension de la hanche et de l'ischio de Cheptegei, qu'il vaut mieux avoir solides. Super vidéo
Super insightful as always. Thank you James!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the support Andrew :)
Hi guys! I've been running for 3 months now. I've noticed that my legs give out first before my breathing. So, what I did is before I feel soreness in my legs, I stop for like 30 seconds max. Doing this, I've increased my mileage. Question Is: Does Stopping For 30 Seconds Break My Long Run? And Is It A Must To Continuously Run?
EXCELLENT PRESENTATION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought it was so funny before the 2020 (2021) Olympics, everyone thought Cheptegei was a shoe-in to win the 10,000 metres. I remember reading such comments as "all he needs to do it run at his WR pace and he'll leave them for dead". Hmm, now how did that work out for him?
Yes there is some pronation but the highlighted moment is when running the bend. Anyway, great analysis, thank you for that.
Glad you enjoyed it. Interesting you mention the the effect that running the bend has on the observed pronation... in fact running a left hand bend like that will reduce the amount of pronation you'd expect to see in the left foot/ankle, and increase pronation on the right.
I’m 6’1 and 220lbs and I never cared about running until the age of 30. Got myself some running shoes and after a few months running 2 miles twice a week I started having this terrible heel pain so I learned that my foot strike was wrong and now I’m a forefoot strike and my calves get super sore next day. Is there a technique to help me fixing my foot strike?
It take soo much to master it
The foot MUST pronate as the weight travels through it for a toe-off on the medial side. His foot motion is part and parcel of his wonderful stride.
3:27 that man is sprinting
Brother how do you know if your knee drive is perfect enough to go high and forward?
Dont forget to breathe through your nose, not your mouth. I learnt that the hard way. 😅
may I know what software you used for analyzing running forms, sir?
It's called OnForm.
Thanks James. 👍
Any time! Always appreciate you commenting. Thank you!
Good video
You comment on running stores stressing over pronation, I coach and work for a run specialty store. I try to put people in a neutral shoe more often than not, but I can’t tell you how many doctors and podiatrists still want people in super stiff insoles combined with a stability shoe. It’s not just folks with injury, but anyone with flat feet, a high arch, a medium arch, that moves…
They come in with crazy stiff custom orthotics they spent $400 on, and a prescription pad listing off every motion control shoe out there.
I think the phrase "if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" works here! Completely agree with your comments, based on my time spent working in running retail as a student!
amazing
THANKS SIR
You're most welcome
great video.. but the angle of these 2 guys are not the same u can tell by the head.. so if you had both videos from them.. perfectly aligned, maybe the angle would have been the same.-
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I think to achieve faster running you must achieve a stronger back
Good step all the andrful life time
Running
I ran 3200 meter in 13.30min at 200 meter round track .how i improve my time?
Run faster
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hougang united??
Is that ben as in Ben_is_running?
Haha no. This is a very different Ben, from a very different part of the world!
@@JamesDunne hougang united.... I might see ben there...
I am going to Sydney Marathon too!
Ben an cheptachegi not hip dive gravelti as lyk pos metho
"sinewy" =)
Nem ez a lényeg hanem az alkat és a táplálkozás . A többi hozza önmagát
Very first comment
Quit watching when you said 40K steps in a marathon. I averaged 180spm for 143 min. So about 25,750 steps. Very different.
Cool story bro.
The average marathon time is 223 mins.
So that's a 175 spm for 40,000 steps.
Thanks Grady. If you're saying that you ran a 143 minute (2hr23) marathon, that's awesome. Congrats! Please bear in mind that you're clearly not the target audience for this video. I based the 40,000 step figure on a 4-hour marathoner (roughly average big city marathon finish time) running with a cadence of 170 spm.
240 minutes x 170 spm = 40,800 strides
Sub sub-elites always trying to flex.
My cadence is only about 173 for a 19 minute 5k.
@@PathFinder855 LOL. Like the Parkrunners who barge to the front as if they're lining up for the Olympic final.
Top G 🪖