God's Voice Might Be Your Conscience
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As a schizophrenic I can tell you no voice I've ever heard is that of God. The voice of some spirits want you to think they're God but none of them are. God's voice is silent and is heard not in words but the promptings of the heart. Don't be deceived...
God bless
This is The Truth
Act upon the voice and i'm pretty sure almost right away you might be able to tell it was never God.
I have schizoaffective and I know delusion. Once you hear the true voice of God, there's no mistaking it no matter the jumbled chaos.
@@A92_you got it!! We need the Holy Spirit for discernment. Satan whispers lies.
That’s a deep insight. Thanks for sharing that.
I cant express what a blessing these men are to the world. Praise to God.
lol sheesh just give these men their flowers without a “but” for once
@@mrizzle58 what but dude?
@Durante-nd5ii I think JP is on a journey. Let's pray he takes the leap of faith. 🙏
@@mrizzle58 Edit, oh the previous comment! Yeah, JP is a sincere honest guy. He's on a journey and I respect that.
@@mommyseastar5776 the first comment
Finally saw Dr Peterson live yesterday here in Texas, over all amazing message
It was a great message, I went too!
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Niceeee
Is this video from his El Paso stop?
Saw him in Virginia
Outstanding and remarkable work Jordan and Bishop Barron exposing and declaring the truth! 💯 God bless you! 💯✝️🕊🙏❤️🇨🇦🇬🇧🇮🇱🇺🇸
"Make your decisions from a place of consolation, not desolation" has been some of the best advice I've ever heard. The point that so many people miss is thay our conscience must be formed to hear God, just because your conscience says something doesn't mean it's from God. The devil is the father of lies, lies start in our head. So the equivocation of God snd conscience is a very dangerous one.
I agree with you. I understand conscience as meaning the voice of the invidual's spirit, not God the Father's.
Do you feel we can equate the voice that tempts us to rationalize as being that of the adversary, and the voice that prompts us to do harder, less desirable things (like forgiveness) as that of God?
I particularly like the comment that the voice we hear knows us better than we know ourselves.
I have to disagree. Deep inside we all know what is right and what is wrong. And you know when the voice of God is the one talking to you or it is that of the devil. It is us that lie to ourselves that the voice we hear is of God because it's saying what we want to hear, it is justifying actions. When you are actually listening to the voice of God what you feel is peace about the decision you're making, I'm not saying it is not scary, I'm just saying it makes you feel at peace with making that decision being a scary decision or not. Scary isn't always bad, scary means you're taking a chance and a lot of good things come from taking chances and risks.
Claiming our conscience is God's voice is a heresy. In 1 John 4 "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God because many false prophets have gone out into the world." How to test? Base on the bible. If it follows the scriptures, then it is from God. Also, we do not trust how we "feel" when we decide what to do. Because feelings are from the flesh. All the principles are written in the Bible.
@@virginiatushman3240 I agree with you. There is a difference between feelings of the flesh and spiritual manifestations from the Godhead. In my experience the difference is unmistakable. These manifestations only come after acting in faith on the word of God.
John 3:20 "For everyone that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds be reproved."
Your Conscience might be God's Voice.
That's what everyone has been saying all throughout time pretty much, unfortunately it seems to be more profitable to condition people to abdicate their responsibilities in order to create systems and orders that circumvent a meaningful life which would create no need for proving who you are through optics and Instead serve to strengthen your character and possibly even making life easier for others around you also.
You know what you should be doing and what you shouldn't. And you know what you never did that you should have. That's God speaking to you. If you listen. If you ask what those things are.
@@FayAlexGGHoly run on sentence.
Yea non conscious that runs at 400 billion actions per sec an consciousness runs at 2000 actions per second
What do you mean by God?
Carl Yung talking about Innu people in Labrador- "Their inner centre is realised in exceptionally pure and unspoiled form by the Naskapi Indians, who still exist in the forests of the Labrador peninsula. These simple people are hunters who live in isolated family groups, so far from one another that they have not been able to evolve tribal customs or collective religious beliefs and ceremonies. In his lifelong solitude the Naskapi hunter has to rely on his own inner voices and unconscious revelations; he has no religious teachers who tell him what he should believe, no rituals, festivals or customs to help him along. In his basic view of life, the soul of man is simply an ‘Inner companion’, whom he calls ‘My friend’ or ‘Mistapeo’, meaning ‘Great Man’. Mistapeo dwells in the heart and is immortal; in the moment of death, or just before, he leaves the individual, and later reincarnates himself in another being"
Where'd you come across this?
@@Rawdiswar Yung talks about this in Man and His Symbols also, not sure where this exactly is from.
@@Obese_Pterodactyl Thanks
You know what you should be doing and what you shouldn't. And you know what you never did that you should have. That's God speaking to you. If you listen. If you ask what those things are.
The kingdom
of god is within.
Seek
ye shall
find..
exactly 👆🏼👌🏼
….And what is highest, is LOVE. Sacrificial Love.
Love is all about sacrifice because it entails cooperation and commitment, understanding and compassion, and thinking as two instead of one.
which is what the whole
point
of the bible
is..
You sacrifice the carnal/snakebrain to
the right side cast your net and burn that christos
oil off
on your pineal
gland (where some character in the bible named the place he met god) and you’ll see the rainbow covenent (dmt burning off creating colours) with man.
/|\ heddwch
@@EbbandFlow1234Spot-on! Biblical Greek -- aka Koine Greek -- has 4 words for love. Αγάπη (agape) is sacrificial love and is used the most in the NT.
They have no idea how right they are. I have always ignored this voice and IT IS ALWAYS THERE. And this voice will always seek what is best for you unconditionally. Even I have to admit, if that isn't God, I don't know what is. You cant shut it up, you cant do nothing. Like JP said, you cannot control it. Which further explains that it is God's Voice
I was in a meditation and prayer room today. There were people gathered eating and chatting turning it into their personal lounge room. I asked them to please keep their voices down, I'm trying to listen to God but I'm listening to them. Gods voice is not our consciousness, gods voice is supraconcious. It transcends the normal voice in our head, it is the voice of creation, love, unity, and without ego. When you hear the voice of God you will dissolve yourself as you realize you are no one. My life will wash away, but God will remain.
God definitely talks to people through their conscious.
So if your conscience is gods voice the. Where was his voice in people who hurt others who never had a conscience to begin with people that are just animalistic. Plenty of serial killers who had no morals no values no principles no conscience. You could say they never invited god in but we are all born without the knowledge of god and if there was no technology to introduce us to him how would we reach him then?
His elect sheep shall hear his voice as a water fountain,those who do not hear his voice hear his voice as a piercing double-edged dagger.
What of those who hear voices in their head before picking up a knife and going on a bloody rampage?
I'm not religious but I imagine that's not God talking @@timmyg44
@@timmyg44 That's the other side of the spiritual spectrum, Muslims believe in demon like creature called jinn that freely move about through people influencing our actions, I believe that is how demonic influence works. These disembodied spirits use things like mental illness and peoples own thoughts against them and some are too weak to resist their influence... Or they might just be off their rocker you never can tell, that's what is so dangerous about demonic influence, its so subtle that it's often mistaken as mental illness, it's rarely full on possession like you see in the movies.
I wish I could have been at this conference! So inspiring!
The problem I find with calling the conscience of a man "The voice of God" is that Proverbs teaches us that "There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is a way to death." I think the existence of conscience is a key attribute that we are made in the image of God, but that even conscience is corrupt and in need of redeeming. Look at the great many evils committed in the pursuit of "the greater good" as evidence of that. Listening to one's conscience may very well lead them down the path of what "seems right to a man" and straight into spiritual death. I think that if there is in fact a transcendent God that it is more likely that his voice is literally his voice speaking from the outside-in and not an internal driver that is innate to our creation. Because some people wake up at 3am and talk themselves into evil in the name of wanting to do good.
Best comment here, absolutely spot on. I agree completely 👍
Beautiful
@@G_Ozareagreed 👍
Definitely!!!!!!!!!! My conscience is on me constantly and I felt this through childhood too it’s never left ❤
As testimony you will know without a doubt when it is God's voice because it is a booming yet silent multidimensional thought that is not telepathy, not internal monologue and not hearing voices. I have been blessed enough to experience them all and been able to discern the difference between them all. When god spoke to me he simply said truth, but it felt like we had a full question answer conversation in a single word. Many thanks gentlemen
It's great because it means everything it's supposed to mean at once. XD
You can not hear the voice unless You belong to Him! 😮😮 Born Again!
Not absolutely true. They are many people who heard the voice of God in the bible who were not born again.
This is why it's so important to be born again, as Jesus said: "do not be surprised that I say you must be born again." The Bible also refers to it as being born from above, or as Jesus described: you must be born of water and the Spirit to enter the Kingdom of God.
We just celebrated Resurrection Sunday (Easter), Pentacost is coming.
The Word of God (specifically Jesus says) "my sheep know my voice."
Brilliant. THE VOICE INSIDE. BETTER I LISTEN TO IT BEFORE LIFE ARRANGES EVERYTHING AGAINST ME 😎
Such a wonderful gift. Thank all that is good that there is prayer to help lighten the burdens of suffering. “If you abjured all sin you’d suffer the least amount possible. But perhaps that still wouldn’t be none.” - (Dr. Peterson’s ending words).
Can we ever control our conscious? Or can only devotion to God get us there?
I think of hearing the voice of God in reference to when someone flashes their lights at you at night on a bumpy, hilly road. When you're driving at night and perceive a car's headlights flashing behind you on a bumpy, hilly road, you think they're signaling something to you, but then you see it happening over and over again and realize it's just the lights themselves moving slightly up and down in relation to the bumps and thus seeming to be brighter and dimmer over and over from your line of sight. However, when someone really does flash their brights at you, it's very obvious at night. Once that happens, you know the difference between when it's just your perception of someone flashing them versus them really flashing them. I heard voices or sounds throughout my life, but one day I heard a voice--toneless, infinite in authority, and like thunder without making a sound--saying to me, "Read my word." Ever since that day, I knew the difference between the sounds/noise and His actual voice. Once you hear it, you know it.
Thanks, Mr Peterson, for speaking the truth! God bless you, sir!
God speaks through your conscience. And it aligns with the scriptures.
Very good discussion.....worth anybody's time!
Thank you Dr 🙏🙏🙏
IntroductionTo The Cognitjve Science of Religion by Clair Whire. . ..very helpful
Jordan,,, I believe that you have made more sense of explaining the ' inner voice ' than the attempts from your guests... A human moral is our personal spirit (soul created and placed in man from God), that is bonded, maybe between, or maybe around the hearts and minds of man... Mathew 22:37 Love the Lord your God, with all your heart(deepest point), with all your soul(mid point), and with all your mind(surface point,, and maybe our conscious and or inner voice)... Amen?
The voice of my "conscience" makes all sorts of mistakes all the time and is highly prone to deceit and delusion. If that conscience is God, how can it be so uncertain and vulnerable?
I choose to build my house upon a rock, and I know that my own mind cannot provide that foundation.
Conscience is our soul.
Promises to God through dreams and sychros are exactly that.
Evil and good are twin brothers. We don't know what people come to earth for, whst their purpose is but good can not exist without evil. Just like everything, it's balance.
All my families experiences and dreams steer us towards God.
It's all a learning curve all of it.
We are here to evolve our souls.
I know people who have had horrific lives, and they stumble and fall blindly in the dark. I'd like to see anyone go through or walk in their shoes they couldn't. They're not bad people they've been touched by evil, they need compassion, not a stone or a lash.
We are all sinners all of us, even you behind closed doors.
You do not understand. It's all black or white, but you can't see the colours in between or hear all the notes that make the symphony complete.
This is why people get more depressed when they choose to lay around in their depression instead of getting up and fighting it. God telling you you arent doing enough for yourself.
it may be that we all seek when we hear his voice but now it could be said that we seek his way through his actions
9:28 the story/parable. 👌🏼it’s all allegory.
Please have a discussion with Dr. E Michael Jones.
Mr. Peterson tackles each question my mind has as he is talking, amazing
Hopefully at some point he gets to teaching how to line up thoughts in such a beautiful way. Probably just practice in developing ideas through speech in the moment- great great way to externalize attention at that.
Amen!
Every encounter is unique
Fun fact the Japanese used to believe that the soul was in the stomach and as anyone who has ever really regretted something knows the gut and the conscious seem to be intwind... But trusting your gut can also be deception from the enemy as it is emotionally driven.
I love these two together!
That’s exactly what it is. That’s what I’ve been telling people. God is your conscious.
Excellent points!
I hope that one day Jordan Peterson will accept Jesus as his Lord and Savior and join the Catholic Church as his wife has done! Intellectual understanding is a good thing but if it doesn’t affect your soul and relationships with God then what is the point. Prayers for you Mr. Peterson!
Anyone know where the tumbneil images are from?
I've thought of this often. If God doesn't exist, then everything you consider God to be is just internal phenomena. If God speaks to you, who's doing the speaking? Its not that it isn't real, or that you haven't been spoken to, but that its not God, it is your subconscious.
God works in mysterious ways? Your MIND works in mysterious ways.
I love these conversations with Jordan because it brings up the psychological aspect of Christianity (or faith in general for that matter) that I find so interesting.
I literally said this on a Reddit post a few days ago!!!
What if you don't hear a voice? I've never heard another voice nor do I feel one.
There are so many ways God speaks to us and our “conscience” is one of them…
Is it not just as much a sin to live above ourselves as below ourselves 🗣
When my conscience speaks it is God speaking to me…
You know what you should be doing and what you shouldn't. And you know what you never did that you should have. That's God speaking to you. If you listen. If you ask what those things are.
So we have no real free will? @@hamdoolam
I hear Jordan Peterson's voice telling me "Do not lie."...I believe he is also my conscience.
Exactly what i wanted to hear
God talk good talk!
“Life will rapidly rearrange itself against you” 5:45
God's 'voice' is in His Word not in our head.
When you are born again, you are given the spirit of truth, your portion of Gods' Holy Spirit.
However, God has written the law on everyone's heart. This is your conscience.
I have often contemplated if the word from God eminates from your conscience within that everyone possesses.
I think so, it explains why some people will never understand the Trinity, forgiveness or the meaning of life. They seem to be the ones that cause a lot of hurt feelings but never try to fix
In this 2024 there are people so self-absorved that they have no time to feel . They can be completely unconscious and with no remorse at all. It seems they have no conscience and they cant listen to that "inner voice" that tells you that refusing other honest love and honest caring in pursuit of only self admiration and self achievements (no matter what) is a big mistake. If you don´t listen that "inner voice" (your conscious) you slowly turn yourself into a soulless person. No conscious, no Soul.
This is beautiful
We live in a life of decay where the value of a man is how much he can play.
It's called the Holy Spirit and it's literally a piece of God that resides within each of us that helps us discern right from wrong.
1 Kings 18:40 And Elijah said to them, “Seize the prophets of Baal! Do not let one of them escape!” So they seized them; and Elijah brought them down to the Brook Kishon and 👉 executed them there.
Socrates daemon...
"In Plato's Apology of Socrates, Socrates claimed to have a daimōnion (literally, a "divine something") that frequently warned him-in the form of a "voice"-against mistakes but never told him what to do."
I was thinking the other day, that maybe the voice I talk to is not myself, so, what you are saying most likely is true.
Gods voice is heard in the bible, not through subjective thoughts and feelings!
I think it is
The pineal gland is a receiver of frequencies, in fact there have been studies done that show that the brain is able to interpret all sorts of frequencies that go by unseen and unnoticed. You don’t hear them, but the brain interprets them. Sometimes you can hear these things if your pineal gland is electrically activated.
@@pascalbedard4191 There’s all sorts of entities that exist in light frequency bands that we cannot currently perceive that mess with us sometimes.
there is a greater mind, this generates Gods, like an intelligence, I know this as I was trained by God., like in Wizard of Oz , I became enlightened, met with the wizard, but he is not all powerful or in control
Mr Peterson described the state of truth in Ukraine 6:51
what’s the painting on the thumbnail ?
To me it means…. Atheist can have morals. Natural law and a conscience
Interesting concept of hearing god’s voice. One needs quiet to do this to quell the inputs all around. A.G. Sertillanges wrote the need for quiet to ascertain truth in his book, “The Intellectual Life”. But, is it not our true inner voice, how we feel about ourselves and our relationships with others where truth lays and the "Golden Rule” emerges. Quiet is needed ot get in touch with our inner thoughts, our moral baseline. If one queries Steven Pinker, Charles Murray and Ian Robertson, our moral baseline comes from our DNA which over millions of years has imprinted behaviors to ensure survival of the species. Those behaviors include cooperative survival, market-based sharing of unique skill sets and viewing others as companions not competitors.
I love being born NOT knowing "GOD." Thankful to be born a good hearted badass atheist!!
And yet here you are looking for affirmation... 🤔
Voice, your conscience, God might be.
Jordan is amazing. He might actually be a genius.
I have a miracle. I would like to speak to mr. Peterson about it.
I have done these things and more. I have the ears of the gods. There is a message
Why do you think it is then that that part of us seems 'programable'? And where does Child Suffering fit into the equation?
My sheep hear my voice.
One moment in God Can Negate a family history 😮
The Holy Spirit whispers to us- our conscience, but demons try to mimick it.
I think that's the biggest thing about the "judge" personification. The devil will tell you exactly what you want to hear and agree with the horrible things you do. God is willing to tell you No and call you out.
I think that's what Jordan meant when he said "try to control it". If it's really your conscience then it will be willing to disagree with you.
My conscience is God's voice
Don’t lie and don’t misbehave because you’ll never get away with it! God is watching your every move…
Ive thought this ALOT in my life. Even when i "didnt believe". I think theres alot like me who "dont believe".
Your conscience IS God’s voice. It was written” I will write my commandments upon their hearts”.
The conscience is your communication between you and God. You live the things you believe according to your conscience. If you are out to use people for your own hedonistic gain then you serve satan, if you live to help others for their gain you serve the greater good and therefore God. Be careful you dont fall for the wolf in sheeps clothing as well as wolves who were their own clothes
Is that the guy from LOUDERMILK!??
Read the book : The course in miracle
Still Egomaniacs.
Who say hop, before they jumped.
Hilarious.
The holy spirit is the voice inside Gods people when our flesh and hearts are surrendered to Gods will and leading each day.
My conscience as a believer each morning has a bent towards selfishness,not so good thoughts....until that is...i go to my prayer closet and ask the Lord to take the reigns.
Our "conscience" unless aligned with God cannot be trusted in and of itself.
Paul describes the spiritual war in Romans 7:18-24
And I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature.
I want to do what is right, but I can’t.
I want to do what is good, but I don’t. I don’t want to do what is wrong, but I do it anyway.
But if I do what I don’t want to do, I am not really the one doing wrong; it is sin living in me that does it.
I have discovered this principle of life-that when I want to do what is right, I inevitably do what is wrong.
I love God’s law with all my heart. But there is another power within me that is at war with my mind.
This power makes me a slave to the sin that is still within me.
Oh, what a miserable person I am! Who will free me from this life that is dominated by sin and death? Thank God! The answer is in Jesus Christ our Lord.
Candace Owens became Catholic Today. Thank God.
An exception might be sociopaths who sleep like a baby after manipulating someone/something for their own instrumental gain. Their guilty conscience won't awaken them abruptly at 3 AM if they don't have a strand of moral fiber in their being.
What you are not getting, is when God is calling you to the opposite and you refuse to go or address it.
1 John 2:27 But that anointing which ye received of him, dwelleth in you: and ye need Not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and it is true and is not lying, and as it is taught you, ye shall abide in him.
The Spirit which you have received of Christ and which hath led you into all truth. You are not ignorant of these things, and therefore I teach them not as things that were never heard of, but call them to your remembrance as things which you do know. He commendeth both the doctrine which they had embraced, and also highly praiseth their faith and the diligence of such as taught them, yet so, that he taketh nothing from the honor of The Holy Ghost
In a none literal way I think Jordan Peterson was suggesting that God can speak to you or call you to a greater good through consciousness since you can’t ignore it.
Though in a literal way this statement is false, your thoughts aren’t God speaking to you not unless they agree with scripture. We ought to be careful because to think otherwise might be a sign of lunacy or something darker and much worse. Stay blessed 🙏🏾 ✝️
Mere speculation. I would have to experience it for myself. Someone else’s experience isn’t good enough. I’ve felt my own conscience try to tell me something was wrong when it clearly wasn’t. How do you account for that? At the end of the day we humans merely speculate, cogitate, theorize a lot, but we don’t actually know the true reality of our existence as conscious beings. The only time you’ll know what life truly is, is when you die.
The voice of God? I hope not. My conscience is a petty tyrant. After an anxiety-ridden childhood of struggling to meet its ever-rising standards of morality, I learned to stop listening to my conscience altogether. Thankfully, it normally leaves me alone these days, and I use reason to determine right from wrong. Maybe some people can trust their consciences to tell them the truth, but mine was unreliable, irrational, and insatiable.
God is consciousness
When you find God's voice, it won't be mistaken , it will be as clear as your mother calling your name in a noisey crowd . The development of your mind and conditioning of your heart will grant you intuitiveness beyond words but even in action.
Could be a subtle movement that saves your life or someone else's.
It came come it the form of a random sense of explanatory power to stranger that changes their lives for ever. You may never even know when God acts upon or moves through you but when you do know ,I mean you really know when the holy spirit is at work or when God is stern with you .
It's no questions about it.
Now the ill of sick can obviously get lost in translation and taken out of context but this will only occur if they are faking themselves out and never have actually heard God's voice.
"I am God "
Jordan Peterson
the still small voice is here
Psa_103:20 Bless the LORD, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the """voice of his word"""".
Joh_7:38 He that believeth on me, """""as the scripture hath said""""""", out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
Joh 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
Joh_14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Joh_15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
Joh_16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
1Jn_4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
Isa_28:23 Give ye ear, and hear my voice; hearken, and hear my speech.
Isa_32:9 Rise up, ye women that are at ease; hear my voice, ye careless daughters; give ear unto my speech.
Joh_10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
Joh_10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Rev_3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
1Ki_19:12 And after the earthquake a fire; but the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.
what if i hear seepage consciences,