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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ม.ค. 2017
- Looking to use a modern Playstation 3 or 4 fight stick or gamepad on your Neo Geo game system? We take a look at one such option from Brook. But, is it the perfect solution?
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Probably worth noting that after updating the firmware you can switch between 3 mappings. Default mapping is (cross) --> A (square)-->B (triangle)-->C (R1)--> D (start and select are the same) and that works perfectly for common Fightstick layouts.
yeah but does it saves?
How do you toggle between settings?
We have new firmware file to select three types key map for controller & arcade stick.
if you needed it, I can offer it .. We should released it next week..
I think the converter is worth the $45. Especially, if you already have a Hori stick. It’s a cheaper alternative than buying or building a custom Neo stick. Thanks for the review. It was very helpful
Just a note, they updated the firmware a while back that added additional button configurations. By default, the new layout is that of a Neo Geo Arcade Stick.The other 2 are the default Neo Geo CD pad layout and a KOF layout. I'd say its worth the investment if you already have a PS3/4 arcade stick or controller .
How do you toggle between settings?
@@JimmelMartin you press the home button + R1 = the standard Neo Geo button layout. While pushing home button and either triangle, or Circle, will give you the King of Fighters or CD layout.
great video .. completely agree with the review remapping buttons constantly is not for me. but the wireless set-up would be awesome for sitting back on the couch.
The converter is great and I do like the extra wire on the adapter. Puts less weight on the DB15 ports. Been using it for a few years and now there is a newer adaptor out.
Thank you for the review, but please DO NOT use a laggy flat panel in order to check for input lag. Always use a CRT.
great video - very well explained and a bummer there is no onboard nand or flash to save your settings. definitely a deal breaker for me too because i was thinking about picking one up for a supergun project
Modern Vintage Gamer thanks buddy! I'm going to keep it as I hope they eventually allow you to reprogram the default buttons. However, had I known ahead of time about the button mapping issue I wouldn't have bought it. Arcade Shock should really mention something about it.
Hi would this work with a super gun?
Hola buen video, es compatible con la consola retro máxplay que también posee 15 pines en su control?
Se puede consolizar un namco system 12? , usando supergun , convertidor controller ps4 to neo geo ?
Looks a handy device I use arcade sticks and I have to be honest the neo geo cd button setup works fine for me I like., have to say tho it's a shame it don't keep you button changes as it would have been perfect for everyone then.
Hola, este adaptador es compatible con el máxplay 15 pines?
Is there any adapter that can connect a Xbox / PC controller to the AES?
Would this work with a Mayflash F500 wired with a PS4 controller.
Will this work on a supergun playing 6 button games (cps2)?
works.
Can someone help me ? I would like to know if this adapter works completely on CPS2 cards. Because I tried to use and ran the directions and the 3 punch buttons but I could not use the kicks. (I used the kick whips correctly just to figure it out.). Does anyone know of any trick to make it work?
It does not work, bought this and try to use for cps2 and cps3 but only 4 buttons work.
Can you only use a PS3/PS4 controller with this adapter or could you use ANY USB controller (like the one for the Neo Geo Mini?)
hi can you map the control with jamma board from tekken tag tournament? I have a rayzer panthera stick, please help, can I use it? with this converter and map the control?
Can anyone please tell me if I can connect the Neo geo mini controller to the MVS? (I already have the usb-usbC adapter) thanks
Hi, could I use this for Jamma super gun and arcade games cps2 etc
So was work on my supergun now its not ? How do i reset it?
the RAP4 Kai is pretty nice imo. i'd be looking for a PS3/4 to 360 or PS3/4 to xbox converter myself however.
JJXB2004 Brook makes these too.
I've seen them on eBay & Amazon.
harsh or not im still going to buy 2, using ny madcatz t2 stick and retro bit usb saturn controller.
Great video! This looks really useful! Annoying it doesn't save mappings though!
Would be nice if they released a tool that allowed you to change the default button mappings. Maybe plug in into a PC and change them there. Would still rather it allow direct manipulation and saving, but I guess we will have to wait and see what happens. Seems like a product that wasn't very well thought out.
i would think it would be easy to hack a battery or a usb jack for the 5v power to keep the mapping . but its the same reason I didn't get the undamned USB converter .
Great review, Todd. I was planning to add a Neo Geo port to my VX-SA (Chimp installed for 360/PS3 switching), but this adapter would actually be a lot cooler since it does the same task but also opens up lots of other controller possibilities. If only it saved mappings, how disappointing! Do you know if it works with a PS2-to-PS3 dongle?
SmokeMonster not sure, haven't heard of anyone testing that combo. Would be nice if it did since there are some really nice early ps1/2 sticks out there.
Definitely. I've got a bunch of PS1/PS2 Hori and Namco sticks that would be nice to use with arcade games.
Great review Todd. This is my first time hearing about this converter. Judging from your review, it might not be worth the 2x cost over the tototek controller adapter. The red light would drive me nuts, and with button remapping already available in a lot of NG titles, it just doesn't seem all that necessary.
Ray Commend hi Ray! Yeah, I don’t recommend this adapter at all due to the fact it doesn’t save button mapping changes. I would just put some black electrical tape over the red led lol.
@@ToddsNerdCave Is there an adapter that saves the button changes?
Is it possible to map the three punches and three kicks on cps2 boards with superguns?
Or just A, B, C and D in Neo geo same?
Tomasu MAO with a undamned db15 adapter from paradise arcade you can
What supergun are you using?
firmware v1.1 addresses the button assignment issues imho.
I had a strange experience with this device. I have consolized neo geo mvs 1 slot board. My controller inputs are on the board already. I plugged this device in without the firmware update and I was using my hori rap4 also. The game started up fine and all seemed well. When I pressed the A button the game would reset. I plugged in my original AES controller with the same game and this was not the problem. After doing the firmware update I plugged the controller in and the game started up fine and it works fine. Just letting anyone know if you are going to buy this, this device does have issues.
100% Agree, been a NeoGeo user, fan, collector for over 25years, and having to remap the button after powering down is a flat-out deal breaker! A definite no go! MJ
Hey Todd,
Another finely detailed and informative video that you published for us bro.
Its an average product for sure, the downside is that it doesn't save mappings for me. But overall, I think you can certainly do better. But who knows, if the developers listen to the concerns of the community, they'll learn from the errors and make a better product for next time.
Anyway, I posted this on the Neo-Geo thread on Atariage.com for you so others can listen to what you had to say about it.
Its on page 271, post #6753 for you to view.
atariage.com/forums/topic/223548-the-official-neo-geo-thread/page-271#entry3684167
Thank you for sharing this. Keep up the great work that you certainly do Todd.
Anthony...
For around $45 you can get a real AES Stick or Neo CD pad, not worth it to me.
on a side note, I actually prefer the default button config on stick.
OldGraFX I would consider this, if almost all selles in the U.S. wouldn't ship with overpriced and painfully slow snailmail service USPS.
Some stuff took 2+ months to ship with them.
I can accept this for free shipping from PRC, where it get's in a container, and the item in turn is bloody cheap for having a 3+ months duration.
Why people use USPS and even consider paying $40+ for slow shipping when UPS overnights stuff across the atlantic for $20 is beyond any rationale.
If they would pick DHL, I could at least use that parcelbox thingy down the road and don't have to take a day off or leave early just to be able to pick it up at the postal office.
You're right, I completely forgot about international shipping.
Also to be honest the original AES or Kidney sticks aren't that great, specially for fighting games (I personally use a Hori Stick Neo II)
Neo CD pad is the worst on the planet and it breaks with just a look, sadly
What about 6 buttons for a super gun? Anyone?
Anybody know of this works with an MVS and Mayflash F500?
It should.
Grah. I pre-ordered two of these, only to find out after the fact that my joystick isn't supported. When I placed the order, there was no compatibility list, only a mention of support for sticks from MadCatz, among others. At least that saved me from the ridiculous remapping setup.
Ouch. Sorry to hear that. I have heard of some compatibility issues with other controllers like the wireless Madcatz Fightpad with the USB dongle.
I was told they would look into adding my stick in a future update, but if they did, it wouldn't be for a long time. Not holding out much hope. I wish I could find a good Saturn to Neo Geo adapter. I know a company made them years ago, but I can't track one down and no one seems to have made one since then.
Bough this for the purpose of using kick harness for my super gun mvs, but it does not work, it can only use 4 buttons, so, this is useless if you want to use this for super gun jamma.
I think it deserves better. Brook for the goddamn win!!!
anyone have a rad2x for neo geo for sale ???
The RetroReceivers already stick out almost too far. If they had to add a second full-sized USB port then they would protrude too far. This can damage your Neo Geo by levering on the controller port.
Are you saying the 8bitdo receiver sticks out too far? I just measured and weighed it versus an original SNES controller. The retro receiver weighs the same amount as a SNES controller connector and is only about 5 millimeters longer. Hardly a big deal.
Todd's Nerd Cave I'm saying that the SNES and NES 8bitdo RetroReceivers _almost_ stick out too far. I was recently moving my SNES RetroReceiver between ports to demonstrate the console's port detection and it was very difficult to do with one hand without putting a lot of stress on it. The NES one may look barely any bigger than a standard connector, but it also protrudes about as far as I am comfortable with. They are both fine for general use. I don't have the NES Classic Edition/Wii version, but that is the only one that looks like it may be an issue. A rigid dongle with two USB ports and the required buttons would be larger than either of these RetroReceivers. Combined with the deep Neo Geo controller ports, and a MUCH more expensive console and I think it'd be asking for trouble (IMO).
i just bought one of these and turned up faulty, the UP and LEFT stick actions do not work. piece of garbage
Did you forget to talk about XID mode?
He'd rather work himself into a frenzy...
Well what do you recommend then? And don’t say buying original controllers
There is a firmware update for this converter that address the button layout issue. The stock layout is the standard arcade button layout of a b c d. You can also switch it to the CD layout and I do believe one other. It's a fairly quick button combo and it stays saved on that setting when you turn it off. So button remapping is no longer required.
Can anyone tell me if this adapter has input delay? Why are you complaining about button mapping? how does it work ?
Tomasu MAO did you watch the video? All of those questions were answered. At length too.
It's because I do not understand English, can you answer me here, please?
Tomasu MAO no input lag and it doesn't save button mappings when you power your Neo Geo off and back on.
You're not noticing lag because your LCD has like 30+ ms built in.
What is the meaning of a test with a wrong setup? You need 3 things: a 10 bucks crt tv, a serious game like kof98 or Motw and some dexterity✂✂✂
Is there a X360/Xone to NeoGeo/NGCD Adapter as well?
Grhdh rennen vdv not that I am aware of.
Todd's Nerd Cave that's kinda sad.
Anyway, Building own NeoGeo Controllers w/ Sanwa/Seimitsu Buttons & Joysticks is way cheaper.
An used aftermarket (!!!) Controller for NeoGeo retails for over 50€ in Germany, and those Hori Arcade Pads are even waaaay more expensive!
At the same time, 2 Joysticks w/ 20 Buttons cost less than 20€…
I'll just get some plain wood planks and some screw terminals to DB-15/DB-25 and build my own controller.
It won't be cheaper at the end if you count in personnel hours, but it will be completely customizeable…
I guess I could build my own X360 to NeoGeo adapter using a Raspberry Pi 3, xpad and a few relays controlled via GPIO. But that would be even more expensive than such a dedicaded adapter.
On the other hand, it could support almost any controller with USB.
So maybe that could be a wanted thing for a commercial product - espachally if it would support hooking up multiple controllers and allocate them to multiple players…
The Undamned Decoder takes 360 or PS3 to Neo Geo.
SmokeMonster nice. I think I'll geg one then…
You used a stick and not even an actual PS4 controller or an actual NG-AES. Giving this a bad review without using the actual devices that it was made for is a bit disingenuous.
I explained in the video why I used the MVS board with a supergun. It's controller port is wired to be identical to the AES (I know, because I made it) so it behaves the exact same as the home console. And none of that changes that I didn't care for the fact that it doesn't save button mappings. That was my beef with it. They have since updated the firmware to include a couple predefined button configs, which certainly improves it. However it still doesn't save button remappings.
I bought it, its a pain to remap. Won't recommend this shit.