Brilliant comparison as always and as a UK shooter who is sub12 most of the time i find the 18gr always better than the 16gr. On the hight power side though the JSB 18.13 are designed for higher speed and if you run them at 880-910 you will find that out to 50m they keyhole I am not sure what the recommended speed is for the others. I have also found that on the 500mm Crown the harmonic nodes with the JSB are about 60fps apart so if you tried 890 that would be about right as your best group was at 830
Gert, I love what you are doing with your pellet tests. It’s obvious that you are shooting very authentically, and what the results are, what they are. Keep it going! PJ Clarke from Wisconsin AirGgunners
I have lost two 3 potential sponsors due to my honesty... I post what I experience, I try not to sugar coat anything. Yes I am sometimes undiplomatic, but I don't have time to fiddle around. Sincere thanks for the compliment. I will try and stay authentic as long as I can shoot.
Hi Maybe you should throw in a not so popular brand in the mix every time just to compare if these popular brands are really that good , or maybe even the 19gr NSA slugs. Keep up the good videos , love them.
Thanks Andre, the NSA slugs are super expensive in South Africa, at R4.50 per slug there is no chance I can afford them, I shoot at least 200 shots per testing = R900 (or 3 tins 15,89gn x 500)
Hey Gert, super informative video once again. Apologies for my late view of this, I'm still playing catch up on all your uploads :) I am using the JSB 18.13 in my Benjamin Akela, I'm running it flat taps for hunting purposes and they seem to be working well trough a variety of speeds from 700 to 900 FPS (I think). Maybe I should look into the AA 18.gr. That said, I may be splitting hairs....... soos hulle se, draai eers die moer agter die gun vas. LOL. Well done and thanks for doing what you are doing! Groetnis uit die baai (PE)
No difference between AA and JSB, except quality control. Same lead and same factory... but different dies used. Rather look for a batch that shoots well (doesn't matter if it is AA or JSB), and then buy lots of them.
@@AimSmall Great testing!👍🏻. the FX 18.1gr & FX 16gr shoots well in my FX rifle. The FX pellets are also expensive. I also found the H&N Baracuda Hunter Extremes 18.52gr. accurate
few questions, did you clean the barrel between each pellet tested? Did you relead the barrel with each pellet before you shot targets and groups? If you just shot 3 sighters and then targets imo you wasted your time, it can take 50 pellets to season a barrel from one pellet to another and then another 30 pellets or so for the accuracy to come in. So how did you do the testing?
No cleaning of barrel in-between as there was no evidence of lead staying behind, only some small amount of lube, thus all the H&N's use the same lube so no need to change there. I do shoot cleaning pellets through the barrel in-between tests to make sure I get most of the lube as well. The 3 sighters are part of the "leading" process. I haven't found the same POI shift between these pellets as I experienced with the slugs. With the slugs I need to shoot about 20 shots before it settles. With all the big brand pellet tests the gun settles within 3 shots to the new make. I also did extensive testing on .177 at much lower speed to see if there is a huge difference - couldn't find any, 3 to 5 pellets to lead the barrel quickly. Remember the Smooth Twist barrels aren't aggressively grooved, thus much more forgiving between pellets. If I do the same exercise with my Steyr LG100 - I need to clean the barrel and shoot at least 25 shots to re-lead the barrel for optimal accuracy. I try and make the tests as clinically accurate as possible. It will never be laboratory 100%. Then you will have to remove the shooter behind the gun as well. Thanks for the comment, much appreciated. I try and keep the videos short and to the point so I can't add all the other stuff surrounding the testing.
@@AimSmall I would redo th whole test, making sure that hat barrel is seasoned only for the pellets you are testing. I used to laugh at lads shooting like you at the club going round and round trying to find what pellets worker best. The ultimate way is shoot a whole tin, 100 to season the barrel and the rest on targets, then swap to the next pellet. Not back and forth like you and they were doing.
I’m trying to tune Fx Impact Mk2 .22 700mm barrel Power Plenum Slug power kit Huma Air dual transfer port Superior liner I’m trying to tune for JSB 18.13gr What is your tune ??
The Air arms 18.13 are made at the JSB factory, they are exactly the same pellets as the JSB 18.13's the difference is the air arms are cleaned more than the jsb
Thank Ian, I have heard so many different versions of AA and JSB, from different lead used to different quality control. At this stage I don't know what to believe anymore, all I can say is that they do vary from batch to batch... I spoke to a couple of guys that visited the factory themselves, and each of them has a different story, even Matt Dubber replied to me after he visited the factory...
Goeie werk Gert!! Jy moes nou net van die FX 18gr gehaat het om saam te toets, en jy maak my altyd so jaloers as jy se jy het so baie pellets🤨😅 as ek mag vra kry jy dit verniet om te toets?
Dis die eerste keer dat ek iets verniet kry om te toets, het direk vir bemarkings bestuurder by H&N gemail... Ek koop alles self, dis ongelooflik duur. Ek soek nou ernstig borge.
16gr (sub 12) and they are fantastic. JSB, Daystate and Crosman all shoot very well in my barrel. New sub and bell rung
Brilliant comparison as always and as a UK shooter who is sub12 most of the time i find the 18gr always better than the 16gr. On the hight power side though the JSB 18.13 are designed for higher speed and if you run them at 880-910 you will find that out to 50m they keyhole I am not sure what the recommended speed is for the others. I have also found that on the 500mm Crown the harmonic nodes with the JSB are about 60fps apart so if you tried 890 that would be about right as your best group was at 830
Very nice 👌👍
Pellets are fun and inexpensive to shoot and can be very accurate. As you said from gun to gun results may vary.
Gert, I love what you are doing with your pellet tests. It’s obvious that you are shooting very authentically, and what the results are, what they are. Keep it going!
PJ Clarke from Wisconsin AirGgunners
I have lost two 3 potential sponsors due to my honesty... I post what I experience, I try not to sugar coat anything. Yes I am sometimes undiplomatic, but I don't have time to fiddle around. Sincere thanks for the compliment. I will try and stay authentic as long as I can shoot.
Hi
Maybe you should throw in a not so popular brand in the mix every time just to compare if these popular brands
are really that good , or maybe even the 19gr NSA slugs.
Keep up the good videos , love them.
Thanks Andre, the NSA slugs are super expensive in South Africa, at R4.50 per slug there is no chance I can afford them, I shoot at least 200 shots per testing = R900 (or 3 tins 15,89gn x 500)
Keep this going. Love this.
i like the h&n barracuda been my most accurate so far
Hey Gert, super informative video once again. Apologies for my late view of this, I'm still playing catch up on all your uploads :) I am using the JSB 18.13 in my Benjamin Akela, I'm running it flat taps for hunting purposes and they seem to be working well trough a variety of speeds from 700 to 900 FPS (I think). Maybe I should look into the AA 18.gr. That said, I may be splitting hairs....... soos hulle se, draai eers die moer agter die gun vas. LOL.
Well done and thanks for doing what you are doing!
Groetnis uit die baai (PE)
No difference between AA and JSB, except quality control. Same lead and same factory... but different dies used. Rather look for a batch that shoots well (doesn't matter if it is AA or JSB), and then buy lots of them.
Please check your grain abbreviation.
Grain is abbreviated as gr to avoid confusion. Thanks.
👍🏻👍🏻 thank you. Interesting stuff.
Jsb lead free do well out of my MatadorLW barrel , but they crack super sonically. 17 mm @ 50 yards @1050 fps
Try AA fields 16 gr , find them better in most guns , funny really because JSB make them
I must definitely try and get hold of some. I know that AA and JSB use different lead - same factory but different dyes... AA more expensive.
@@AimSmall Great testing!👍🏻. the FX 18.1gr & FX 16gr shoots well in my FX rifle. The FX pellets are also expensive. I also found the H&N Baracuda Hunter Extremes 18.52gr. accurate
Muy buenas pruebas y excelente video 👍👍👏👏🇦🇷
few questions, did you clean the barrel between each pellet tested? Did you relead the barrel with each pellet before you shot targets and groups?
If you just shot 3 sighters and then targets imo you wasted your time, it can take 50 pellets to season a barrel from one pellet to another and then another 30 pellets or so for the accuracy to come in.
So how did you do the testing?
No cleaning of barrel in-between as there was no evidence of lead staying behind, only some small amount of lube, thus all the H&N's use the same lube so no need to change there. I do shoot cleaning pellets through the barrel in-between tests to make sure I get most of the lube as well. The 3 sighters are part of the "leading" process. I haven't found the same POI shift between these pellets as I experienced with the slugs. With the slugs I need to shoot about 20 shots before it settles. With all the big brand pellet tests the gun settles within 3 shots to the new make. I also did extensive testing on .177 at much lower speed to see if there is a huge difference - couldn't find any, 3 to 5 pellets to lead the barrel quickly. Remember the Smooth Twist barrels aren't aggressively grooved, thus much more forgiving between pellets. If I do the same exercise with my Steyr LG100 - I need to clean the barrel and shoot at least 25 shots to re-lead the barrel for optimal accuracy. I try and make the tests as clinically accurate as possible. It will never be laboratory 100%. Then you will have to remove the shooter behind the gun as well. Thanks for the comment, much appreciated. I try and keep the videos short and to the point so I can't add all the other stuff surrounding the testing.
@@AimSmall I would redo th whole test, making sure that hat barrel is seasoned only for the pellets you are testing. I used to laugh at lads shooting like you at the club going round and round trying to find what pellets worker best. The ultimate way is shoot a whole tin, 100 to season the barrel and the rest on targets, then swap to the next pellet. Not back and forth like you and they were doing.
I’m trying to tune Fx Impact Mk2 .22 700mm barrel
Power Plenum
Slug power kit
Huma Air dual transfer port
Superior liner
I’m trying to tune for JSB 18.13gr
What is your tune ??
sir can you tell me the bc of air arms diablo field heavy .22cal 18gr?
can you tell me the BC of airarms .22 18gr?
Tnx ...
I shoot in the same hole with open sights and a springer
Very accurate in 30m. 50_100m.......??
The Air arms 18.13 are made at the JSB factory, they are exactly the same pellets as the JSB 18.13's the difference is the air arms are cleaned more than the jsb
Thank Ian, I have heard so many different versions of AA and JSB, from different lead used to different quality control. At this stage I don't know what to believe anymore, all I can say is that they do vary from batch to batch... I spoke to a couple of guys that visited the factory themselves, and each of them has a different story, even Matt Dubber replied to me after he visited the factory...
@@AimSmall Check out AEAC channel on here, he did a visit to the jsb factory, really interesting to see the manufacturing process.
@@iandixon1987 I did watch it as well as the H&N tour he did... would love to be let lose in those factories. lol.
@@AimSmall My pockets would be so full I wouldn't be able to walk properly lol.
@@iandixon1987 Whahahaha, indeed, just imagine the airport taxes for overweight parcels to fly home.
Hello friend! How many centimeters is the barrel of the rifle with which you are doing the test?
600mm
Goeie werk Gert!! Jy moes nou net van die FX 18gr gehaat het om saam te toets, en jy maak my altyd so jaloers as jy se jy het so baie pellets🤨😅 as ek mag vra kry jy dit verniet om te toets?
Dis die eerste keer dat ek iets verniet kry om te toets, het direk vir bemarkings bestuurder by H&N gemail... Ek koop alles self, dis ongelooflik duur. Ek soek nou ernstig borge.
meestal JSB diabolo aan de top met zuiverheid ,in mijn veer zuiger en pcp`s windbuksen
Top...jsb..18grams..top..meu amigo parabéns...
Ok 18 grainers but what caliber are these ? Lol. Unless I missed it
.22
perhaps try the aa diabolo field in 16g, the most consistent pellet i have used, all my guns have liked them
Will give them a go, thank you.
How about 880 fps?
My shot count on 880fps is horrible, I get 2 mags (36 shots) on a fill - thus tuned the gun more for efficiency. Will try lighter pellets as well.
What's Up Aim Small!
Everything is up thank you.
Please fx superior barrel send indonesia
This was the normal pellet liner.
انت شنب 🇸🇦🇸🇦🇸🇦
Please check your grain abbreviation.
Grain is abbreviated as gr to avoid confusion. Thanks.
Thank you, will do.